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what if (and idk much like history wise so idk if this even works but it is A Thought)
(also worth mentioning that I thought of this cause I dreamed about it-)
in 1936 the Jacobs family travels to Poland to be with family. Jack is absolutely devastated that they leave, all but Les, who stays to go to school. He refuses to return any letters from the family and just wants to forget all about them.
But he picks up a newspaper one day and reads about the war, and what’s happening to Jewish people over there, and suddenly he’s sending a letter every day, praying that by some miracle David or *someone* will answer.
He’s in the middle of writing one of these letters when there’s a knock on his door and none other than Les Jacobs stand across from him, looking like a scared cat on the street, and he just falls into Jacks arms and cries because *did you read the news today*
Headline: David Jacobs, co-leader of Newsies strike killed, along with parents and sister
Jack has never felt more torn apart.
Les moves in with him, because what is he supposed to do, leave him to fend for himself?
And Jack finds his way back to old friends who are all mourning the loss of the boy with bright blue eyes and a smart mouth.
Additionally- I want to hear from y’all if I end up writing about this I want to know what I need to do to be respectful and sensitive of this topic and everything and I want to know everything you have to say! If I’m being a dick I’m relying on y’all to call me tf out on it cause I don’t wanna be a dick
#Idk how this lines up with dates and stuff bc I’m not that smart but#It’s sad#and I’m a fan of sad things#so I thought I’d share#if you have any idea how I can make the dates line up I might just write about it#David jacobs#jack kelly#newsies#livesies#92sies#Uksies#picklesies#newsies live#wwii#world war ii#au? I guess#hc?#your guess is as good as mine#les Jacobs#tw ww2#tw Jewish persecution#Tw death#tw angst#yeah#angst#angst in general#ALSO I WAS REMINDED OF THIS BUT IF YOU HAVE KNOWLEDGE OR ANYTHING I WANT TO HEAR ABOUT IT!! I want y’all to talk to me.
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“but the otkazat’sya are suffering too!” girl the otkazat’sya have one thousand safe havens to choose from. because it is their entire country and they are the privileged majority. they never have to fear that they are alone or isolated or vulnerable in a land that caters directly to them. do you understand. the grisha have one safe haven in a land that fucking hates them and seeks to strip away their basic human rights at every second. they are not the same.
Wdyt about Israel Palestine
i think that anybody trying to bring a real life attempt at fucking genocide into petty fandom bullshit maybe needs to take a step back a little. what the fuck is wrong with you people.
i think that i don't know nearly enough about the situation to make a statement about anything, but it's pretty damn obvious that israel is making an attempt at wiping out palestine. next person to bring this subject into my ask box as fandom discourse is getting blocked by the way. there are people fucking dying out there right now.
i also think that it's fucking ridiculous to take a statement out of context and try to spin it in some accusatory direction, considering the context is that the otkazat'sya hold irrevocable power within this fictional universe and seek to cull the grisha despite their safe haven. which is genocide. last I checked genocide is bad. it really shouldn't have to be stated that this is fucking fiction versus reality, though. literally what the fuck.
#shadow and bone#grishaverse#i cant believe ive actually been seeing this discourse in the tags#antis need to shut up#what on earth is wrong with you#it also doesn't help that the grisha were based on and parallel american jewish ghettoization#based on what the author has stated#like can you all stop to think for maybe two seconds#genocide tw#persecution tw#sab salt#shadow and bone discourse#sab discourse#anti sab#negative#fandomcourse#i guess#yeesh#what's next#anon#asks and answers#myramlings
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Hi. I’m Israeli, I saw a few of your posts and I would like to share my perspective with you.
You talk a lot about Zionism as an ideology, but I think it’s important to distinguish between the ideology itself and what is being done today.
Zionism is an ideology that states that Jews have a right for self determination in their own state. A lot of it is rooted in religion, but a large part of it was a response to Jewish persecution in Europe, North Africa and the Middle East. Being a minority you are essentially helpless when people decide to pillage you or treat you like a second class citizen (and yes, that also happened to Jews in North Africa and the Middle East) when you have your own state, you can at least defend yourself.
Just like any other group of people can strive for self determination (including Palestinians) so can Jews. It’s not just a matter of being secluded from others, or being elitist, it’s a matter of insuring your own security as much as you can as a people.
Zionism is not an evil ideology. You can maybe argue that the way it was achieving its goal is evil, but by that logic you can also argue that Palestinians are evil since they had also committed heinous acts against Jews in this land way before the invention of Zionism and even before they defined themselves as Palestinians.
Zionism is also very tied to Judaism. The longing for returning to “the homeland” is referenced throughout countless Jewish texts in the diaspora, again, way before the invention of Zionism.
There are some sects of Judaism that are against it, but saying “hey, Judaism and Zionism are completely detached!” Is I’d say… incorrect. Like to a point where the overwhelming majority of practicing Jews have some sort of Zionist views.
So about the situation today. in an ideal world, I believe that Palestinians have a right for self determination as much as we do. Saying Zionism is just like this evil, western colonial power, whose sole purpose is to harm and torture Palestinians is very very incorrect.
Thanks for reading, have a nice day 🙏🏽
This is gonna take me a whole essay to respond to so I’m gonna do y’all a favor and put a cut below feel free to read more if you want
If Zionism were purely about “Jewish self-determination”, that would be one thing. However, the reality is that the ideology of Zionism is inseparable from anti-Arab racism and the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians. The argument you are making only works if you are operating under the assumption that Palestine was an empty piece of land before it was settled by Israelis, which is a notion that many Zionists have tried to push, hence the Zionist slogan: “A land without a people for a people without a land.” However, this is not true. There were always people living in Palestine, and there is no way that an exclusively Jewish state could have existed there without systematically murdering them and expelling them from their land. If you go back and read the texts of the original Zionist leaders, they make it explicitly clear that this was their objective from the very beginning. Ilan Pappe’s book “The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine” documents this extensively. I’ll include a few excerpts here. This is Zionist leader David Ben-Gurion’s second in command Moshe Sharett explaining how he wanted to pay off villagers to leave in order to “reduce the number of Arabs” in Palestine:

This is the description of “Plan Dalet”, which was explicitly designed to drive out Palestinians and murder whoever remained:


This is David Ben-Gurion explicitly saying that even 40% “non-Jews” (aka Arabs) in Palestine was unacceptable:

This is an example of how Plan Dalet was carried out in the village of Deir Yassin (tw: murder, sexual assault, this is extremely graphic)

While to some, Zionism might seem like a nice idea, in practice, it requires murder and systematic cruelty towards the Palestinian population that is continuing to this day. This is why people are opposed to it. It has nothing to do with religion or antisemitism; it is because people can very plainly see that the occupation and genocide it has caused is morally wrong. To quote Dr. Gabor Mate on why he is no longer a Zionist: “Yes, we created this beautiful dream, but we created a nightmare for somebody else.”
I don’t know what percentage of the Jewish population are Zionists, but I think the fact that there is such a strong Jewish anti-Zionist community is proof enough that Zionism should not be linked to Judaism. In fact, you could even argue that saying so is antisemitic because it implies that every single Jewish person is complicit in Israel’s war crimes, which is not true. Furthermore, I strongly believe that many Jewish Zionists subscribe to the ideology because they have been told lies and propaganda about the creation of Israel. It is very evident that Israel is going out of its way to cover up its crimes against Palestinians (i.e. outlawing mentioning the Nakba, planting trees over destroyed Palestinian villages to make it look like nothing was ever there, etc.) I think more Jewish people would have second thoughts about Zionism if they knew the truth behind the ideology.
As for the notion that the military occupation and apartheid of Palestinians is somehow “necessary” for Jewish safety, I would say that this is not only untrue but also makes no sense. Violence is inherently necessary to run a military state and keep a population under an occupation, and violence is always going to beget more violence, which is the exact opposite of the “safe utopia” that Israel strives to depict itself as. Think about it: if you were in a Palestinian’s shoes, would you not do exactly what they are doing? If you were born under a military occupation where you were routinely at risk of being bombed and having your home stolen by settlers, would you not resist by any means necessary, even if it meant resorting to violence? At the end of the day, the only difference between you and a Palestinian is luck in where you were born - that’s it. Safety is not achieved by oppressing others. Safety is achieved with peace and respect for others. I am not against Israelis living in Palestine. But there is no reason why Palestinians need to be ethnically cleansed for that to happen. People of different religions coexisted in Palestine before Israel; there is no reason why that can’t happen again. The more Israelis that realize ending the occupation is in their best interest, the faster the violence will end. It really is that simple.
#palestine#israel#free palestine#from the river to the sea palestine will be free#ilan pappe#the ethnic cleansing of palestine#tw: murder#tw: sa#pro palestine#stand with palestine#anti zionisim
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I really hope this doesn't offend you because that is not what I'm aiming for. I don't know how to do tw. Tw : Zionism
Is Zionist an insult? Because what I saw is this definition and it didn't really scream bad. Maybe I am just dense. I don't know, can you help me out?
"Zionism (Hebrew: צִיּוֹנוּת Tsiyyonut [tsijoˈnut] after Zion) is a nationalist movement that emerged in the 19th century to espouse support for the establishment of a homeland for the Jewish people in Palestine, a region roughly corresponding to the Land of Israel in Jewish tradition."
no, imo it’s not an insult, because there’s different kinds of zionism but the core value is believing that Jews have a right to self determination in their own homeland, which is israel. the goal in creating the country we know today was to give jews escaping worldwide persecution a safe place to go because there wasn’t one before that. christians and politicians misuse zionism on a daily basis and it’s important to distinguish between non jews using zionism to further their own bullshit and jews who believe they have a right to exist in the land they’re indigenous to. some jews who believe that don’t identify with zionism just because it’s been so misconstrued and misused.
#Asks#anonymoose#there’s plenty of historical proof that we are in fact indigenous to judea#hence the jew in judea#it’s why we’re called jewish#for the record I fully believe in everyone in the region coexisting#I don’t believe Palestinians in Gaza should be killed or relocated#clearly Palestinians want Israelis gone#and that’s just not going to happen and frankly shouldn’t#bc we’re indigenous to the area for much longer#like historically#it’s a very nuanced and difficult situation#and too many keyboard warriors feel they have a place in the conversation
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Through the Bible with Les Feldick LESSON 2 * PART 3 * BOOK 70 ADULTEROUS ISRAEL TO BE RESTORED – PART 3 Hosea 2:14 – 4:14 Once again, it’s good to have everybody back from the coffee break. We’re doing program number three this afternoon. We’re going to go right back and pick up what I didn’t finish in the last program. For those of you on television, if you’re just tuning in, we’ve been talking about Israel being scattered into all the nations of the world. We started with our references in Deuteronomy, and now we’re back up into Ezekiel. That’s where we’re going to pick up – right where we left off in Ezekiel 37, how the Nation of Israel is out there scattered into every nation under heaven, but the time would come when they would start coming back to their homeland. Now of course, it didn’t happen over night. It really started in the late 1800’s, 1890-95, somewhere in that neck of the woods when Jewish leaders started talking about a homeland. They and Great Britain, of course, who had the empire that circled the globe, were the major players. So, a politician in England by the name of Balfour (Arthur James) and the Jews made the Balfour Declaration--that was that the Jews could have a homeland in the Middle East. First they had it drawn clear across the Jordan Valley and on into what is present-day Iraq and Jordan, but the Arab world put up such a howl that Great Britain backed off. Instead they designated it from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean. So anyway, the Jews back then were being forced by persecution and every other which way, that was long before Hitler came on the scene. So, a lot of the Jews started making their way back from North Africa, Morocco and in that area. Then the rest of the Arab world started persecuting them unmercifully, so they finally left Syria. I don’t think there’s a Jew left in Syria, certainly not in Iran. As a result of all that, they gradually made their way back to the homeland. In 1948 they declared themselves a Sovereign State. Okay, so all that has come in fulfillment of this. Come back with me now at the opening to Hosea chapter 3 verse 4, so that we can be where we want to start every program in Hosea. Back to chapter 3 verse 4 where we’re talking about the dispersion. How that for a long time they’ll be out there in all the nations of the world, verse 4. Hosea 3:4-5a “For the children of Israel shall abide many days without a king, and without a prince, and without a sacrifice, and without an image, and without an ephod, and without teraphim:” In other words, they had nothing of their religion, as much as I hate to use the word. All right, then the key word in verse 5 is—“Afterward…” All right, but we’re not going to look at the “afterward” yet, until we go back and finish some of those verses with regard to all those 1900 and some years that Israel was scattered into the nations of the world. All right, come back where you were with the dry bones in Ezekiel 37 verse 11. Here’s where we have the interpretation of this vision. Ezekiel 37:11 “Then he (the LORD) said unto me, (the prophet) Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel: (Now that tells you right up front that ten tribes are not lost. All Twelve Tribes are still involved even at this point in time.) behold, they say, Our bones are dried, and our hope is lost: we are cut off for our parts.” In other words, that was when they were out amongst the Gentile world--verse 12. Ezekiel 37:12a “Therefore, prophesy and say unto them, (these scattered Jews) Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves,…” Now, the best way I can explain that in recent history was when the Soviet Union collapsed, and one of the first results of that collapse was permission for the Jews to immigrate out and down to Israel or wherever. It was a providential thing. As soon as the Jews had the opportunity, I think in the first two years of the 90’s--1990, 91, 92, something like two million Jews left Russia to go to the Nation of Israel.
In fact, Iris and I ran into a family of them down on the Dead Sea. The parents couldn’t talk English but the kids could. So we could communicate with the family through the kids. But it was typical of Russians who had left Russia because now the bars were lowered. All right, that’s exactly what I think of when it says here “I will open your graves.” When the Gentile world would finally give permission for Jews to leave their nation and go wherever they wanted to go. Of course, a lot of them ended up there in their homeland of Israel. All right, reading on. Ezekiel 37:12b “…O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel.” Now, do you see how providential that is? You know, I’ve shared it on the program before, and I’ll do it again. The first time Iris and I were in Israel, we came out of the hotel restaurant that evening and a well-dressed businessman approached us. He said, “You’re from America, aren’t you?” We said, “Yes.” He said, “What do you think of our little country?” I said, “It’s fabulous what God has done!” He said, “God didn’t have a thing to do with it. We did it!” “Well,” I said, “I beg to differ. But I’m not going to argue with someone in his homeland.” But see, that was their idea, that they did it. No, they didn’t! God did it! Against all the odds. My goodness, Great Britain did everything in their power to keep any Jews from coming to the land of Israel. But they got there. And then the Arab world consorted to drive them into the sea, but it never happened. Even to this day, they talk about it. It’s not going to happen, because God has sovereignly designated that they are going to come to their homeland. Okay, so now they’re back according to Ezekiel. Now, let’s just stop at one verse on our way to the Book of Acts, so that you’ll see what James was referring to. Turn to the Book of Amos, that’s right after Hosea--Joel then Amos. Amos the last chapter, chapter 9, this is an interesting verse. Yet, it was in such a veiled form that Israel’s prophets didn’t catch it. Jesus, of course, never alluded to it. But now as we can read and look back, we know that this is what the prophet was talking about. Amos chapter 9 and again, we’re talking about the dispersed Nation of Israel in those first nine – ten verses. But now look at verse 11. Amos 9:11 “In that day (When God will finally have His people back in their homeland.) will I raise up the tabernacle of David that is fallen, and close up the breaches thereof; and I will raise up his ruins, and I will build it (Now remember, we’re talking about King David’s day.) as in the days of old:” Now, you remember what I said in one of the earlier programs this afternoon? When did Israel reach the pinnacle? During David’s and Solomon’s reign. The glorious Kingdom of David. What did the Queen of Sheba say? “The half has never yet been told.” Of what? The glory of David’s kingdom. All right, so this is the analogy. It’s going to be restored with the glory that it was in David’s day, only far, far greater. Amos 9:12 “That they (the Nation of Israel) may possess the remnant of Edom, and of all the heathen, (the Gentile world) which are called by my name, saith the LORD that doeth this.” In other words, God is going to bring Israel back to the homeland at some point in time. He’s going to return and set up this glorious kingdom promised to Israel. All right, now I made mention of Acts chapter 15. Here we have the record of the Jerusalem Council. And I think, according to some of the ancient writers, this was in A.D. 51. Now get your numbers – Christ was crucified in A.D. 29. I feel that the Apostle Paul was converted in A.D. 37. He began his ministry in A.D. 40. Now, he is being confronted by the Judaizers from the Jerusalem Jewish church and told that his converts had to be circumcised and keep the Law of Moses. That was the whole purpose of the Jerusalem council.
All right, now I’m not going to take the time to take you through all that. As you come to the end of that council, the leadership of the Jerusalem church recognized Paul’s Apostleship and that he would be going to the Gentiles, come in at verse 12. Acts 15:12 “Then all the multitude kept silence, and gave audience to Barnabas and Paul, (Who had been ministering up in Antioch, remember, as well as in Turkey and so forth.) declaring what miracles and wonders God had wrought among (What people?) the Gentiles by them.” Now this is unheard of. God had done all kinds of miracles in Israel, but amongst the Gentiles? Unheard of! All right, so they took this all in as the argument is now being kind of put to rest, because they are recognizing that Paul and Barnabas do now have a ministry with the Gentiles that Israel was never permitted to do. All right, now verse 13. Acts 15:13 “And after they had held their peace, (The tumult was quieting down.) James answered, (We know from Galatians chapter 2 that James was the moderator of this Jerusalem council.) saying, Men and brethren, hearken unto me: 14. Simeon (Peter) hath declared how God at the first did visit the (What?) Gentiles, to take out of them…” Now keep your pronouns right. Who are the “them” now? The Gentile world. Paul has been designated to go to the Gentiles. Acts 15:14b “…to take out of them a people for his name.” Now, Acts can’t tell us what it is, because it really hasn’t been totally revealed. But you get to Paul’s letters and what do we call it? The Body of Christ. The Body of Christ is that called-out group of Gentile believers under Paul’s Gospel of Grace that has believed for salvation that Jesus died for their sins, was buried, and rose again the third day. The Body of Christ is totally insulated from all the promises of Israel. Now, let’s see my timeline again. Here we come past the rejection now. All the promises concerning this glorious kingdom over which God the Son, Jesus the Christ, would rule and reign, but Israel rejected it. Then they hit the prime of their rejection when they did what? Stoned Stephen. Stephen was still appealing to the Nation to repent of having killed that promised Messiah. But they would not. So they stoned Stephen. All right who were we introduced to at the stoning of Stephen? Saul of Tarsus All right, now we get back to our timeline. After Christ has ascended and Israel’s rejection, now God is going to do exactly what Amos is referring to. That after a period of time, which would include our Church Age and the Tribulation, the King and the Kingdom would still come in and bring back the glories of David and Solomon. But here’s what we have to realize. God’s time clock stopped. He sent Paul out into the Gentile world to call out a people for His name, which like I said, we call the Body of Christ. All right, come back with me a minute to Acts chapter 15 again, now verse 15. Acts 15:15 “And to this (James says) agree the words of the prophets; as it is written,” But you see, they didn’t have a clue what Amos was talking about. They didn’t have a clue that after 1,900 years of being scattered into all the nations of the world, they would come back and reappear as a Nation and yet have the promised Kingdom become a reality. They didn’t know that. In fact, how many times have I done this before, and I’m going to do it again. Keep your hand in Acts 15. Go to I Peter, because I think this is so interesting that now, after the fact, Peter can write just exactly what I’m saying. They couldn’t put it together. Oh, it was back there, but in such veiled language they didn’t understand. And they weren’t supposed to. All right, back in I Peter chapter 1, I usually like to start at verse 9. Now remember, Peter, too, is addressing fellow Jews. He says that up in verse 1. I Peter 1:1a “Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the strangers scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia…” Well, Gentiles weren’t strangers in their own land, but Jews were.
So, this is who Peter’s writing to. He’s writing to Jews of his own day and who were fellow believers that Jesus was the Christ. All right, now verse 9. I Peter 1:9a “Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls. 10. Of which salvation the prophets (the Old Testament prophets) have inquired…” They were just constantly questioning – what about this? How is this going to happen? What is it? You can just about cook up as many questions as I can. I Peter 1:9b “…have inquired and searched diligently, (What were they searching? The Scriptures! The Old Testament Scriptures. Trying to put it all together. And they couldn’t. They weren’t supposed to.) who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you:” Well, when would it come for the Jew? When their Messiah would return, see? But the Old Testament Prophets didn’t speak of it as a second coming. They just spoke of it in veiled language that He would come and suffer and die. But on the other hand, there were prophecies that He would rule and reign. I’ve covered this before on the program. My, they questioned--how is this going to happen? Are we going to have two Messiahs? Will one suffer? Are we going to have a second Messiah that will rule and reign? They certainly couldn’t put together that the same One would be both! All right, that’s what Peter is talking about. All right, reading on in verse 11. I Peter 1:11 “Searching (the Scriptures) what, or what manner of time the Spirit (the Holy Spirit) of Christ who was in them (the writers of the Old Testament) did signify, when it (or He) testified beforehand (Now here they are, the two aspects of the Messiah.) the sufferings of Christ, (the Messiah) and the (What?) glory that should follow.” Now, can you see their dilemma? Here we’ve got to have a Messiah who suffers. But we have to have a Messiah that’s going to rule and reign. How is He going to do that unless we have two? They could not put it together that it would be one and the same. That’s why the normal rank and file Jew of today, is he looking for the Messiah the second time? No. The what? The first! They can’t reconcile the fact that the Messiah that suffered is the Messiah that’s going to rule and reign. That has been a dilemma for the Jew down through the centuries. All right, I think that’s sufficient there. Back to Acts then a minute. Now James and Peter and John, after the fact of the suffering, have now seen Him ascend back to Glory. Now they’re beginning to get the picture that this same Messiah who suffered would return and be the Messiah who would rule and reign. But, now here’s my question. Did they have any idea it would be 1,900 and some years? No way! So Peter and James and John and Jude and Revelation all speak in language as though it would be in their lifetime. They had no idea it would be such a long extended period. But yet, you see, Hosea is talking in the same language that the Nation would be out there for a long time. Until the “bones were white with age.” And then they’d come back. All right, verse 15: Acts 15:15 “And to this agree the words of the prophets; as it is written,” Now they can put it together. This is what Amos was talking about. After the calling out of a people for His name up in verse 14, after that long period of dispersion, they would be back in the land, but they would still have to wait for the out-calling of that Body of Christ, the Gentiles. Acts 15:16 “After this I will return, and will build again the tabernacle of David, which is fallen down; and I will build again the ruins thereof, and I will set it up:” Now, get the “after.” After what? The calling out of the Gentile Body. That’s why I maintain it has to be a pre-tribulation rapture, because God is not going to be dealing with the Gentile Body and the Nation of Israel. No, He’s going to be dealing with the earthly people, the Nation of Israel, first in the horrors of the Tribulation and then in the glory of the Kingdom.
But it won’t happen until the church is complete and is taken out of the way. All right, now I’ve got a few minutes left, yet? Well, let’s go to verse 17. Let’s not skip that. Let’s stay here a minute. After the calling out of the Body of Christ, “he would raise up again the tabernacle of David, which has fallen down;” That’s why we read it in Amos before we came to Acts. “And I (God says) will set it up.” Set what up? The Kingdom of David. Now verse 17. Acts 15:17 -18 “That the residue of men might seek after the Lord, and all the Gentiles, upon whom my name is called, saith the Lord, who doeth all these things. 18. Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the world.” Well, He certainly worked only with the Nation of Israel, but I had one writer say, “He must have been a racist!” No, He’s not a racist!! What a stupid comment. But see, that’s the mentality of the world. Just because He dealt with Jew only. I guess they were commenting on that verse in Matthew 10:5-6 where the Lord told the Twelve, “Go not into the way of a Gentile or house of a Samaritan, but go only to the lost sheep of the House of Israel.” That is when he wrote and said, “He must be a racist.” No! I’m going to write back. The letter is still on my desk. I’m going to write back that Christ was on Covenant ground! He could not condescend to Gentiles until the covenant promises were fulfilled. But He’s going to set those covenant promises aside for 1,900 years and turn to the Gentiles without Israel. Is He being racist by now setting Israel aside? No! It’s in His Sovereign design. All right, now let’s go to Romans chapter 11. We have the same concept in different language. It’s the same thing. That after God has called out the Body of Christ, He’s going to return and deal with His covenant people. Romans chapter 11 verse 25 and then there are people, famous people, highly esteemed people, who say that there’s nothing to do with Israel anymore. They say that the people who call themselves Jews aren’t Jews at all. How ridiculous can people get? But here’s another verse that shows that God is not through with Israel. Romans 11 verse 25. In fact, the whole chapter 11 is dealing with God coming back and dealing with Israel. Romans 11:25a “I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, (Or secret or something that no one previous to Paul understood. And what is it?) lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; (In other words, puffed up with your own ignorant knowledge. And here it is.) that blindness in part (Not forever, but for a period of time. And I suppose even Paul, after the Holy Spirit inspired him to write that, was thinking in terms of 10 or 15 years, instead of 1,900 and some. But nevertheless, here we are, and it still holds.) that blindness in part (for a period of time) is happened to Israel,…” It is a spiritual blindness that the Jewish people, as a multitude, cannot understand. So they’re spiritually blind. Oh, we get a few. I’ve got a fair amount of Jews in my audience, and they’re interesting. I could sit here for another hour and tell you about some of them, but whatever. Here we have it that the rank and file of Israel are spiritually blind to this Age of Grace. Romans 11:25b “…that blindness (Sovereignly) in part is happened to Israel, (Then what’s the next word?) until (At some point in time that blindness is going to end, and God is going to be able to deal once again with His covenant people. When will that be?) until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in.” All right, now you compare that with what we just read in Acts 15. When will the fullness of the Gentiles come about? When the Body of Christ is complete. When the last person, I feel, has been saved and has become a member of the Body of Christ, we are out of here! And God picks up where he left off with Israel. Now, I can’t understand why that’s so hard for people to see. I had one lady that saw it in just 15 minutes of a phone conversation.
And she said, “Les, it’s all so logical!” Yeah, that’s exactly what it is. It’s so logical. God has set Israel aside for 1,900 and some years. He has fulfilled the prophecy of bringing them back, and He is filling up the Body of Christ. And one of these days it’s going to be full. The trumpet will sound. We’re out of here, and God will start dealing with Israel. Oh, it’s going to be horrible for seven years. But He's still dealing primarily with Israel. As a result of all of their chastisement and the wrath and vexation of God, here comes the Kingdom. And for the Jews who have survived and are believers, they’ll go into that Kingdom. They’re going to enjoy all the promises of God that have been spoken for the last 4,000 years. It’s just going to come rolling in on the Nation like a flood. As the Old Testament puts it, “They’re going to blossom like a rose in the desert.” So, don’t ever give up on the Nation of Israel.
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Finally filled out a form that had Jewish as an option under ethnicity!!!!!!!!
#wildin!!!!! cause forms usually NEVER have that as an option#like ya I am white and also#(tw antisemitism for the this next part)#there’s were still swatsikas drawn on my desk in 9th grade and my friends were told they should be gassed up when they were in the locker rm#Jewish#jewblr#mypost#and racially restrictive housing laws sold only to ‘white’ families and specifically not ‘Blacks Hispanics or Jews’#the definition of who = white has kept changing thru history like even Italians werent considered white#but that’s more on whiteness as the identity which I can absolutely say I privilege from#the idea of ‘race’ is v complex and so is ethnicity but as I understand the government understands it: ethnicity is abt shared culture/#language/history/traditions etc#and Judaism 100% is that bruv n we’ve been persecuted on it
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Personally, this is a huge fear of mine and it's a large reason I kept myself away from conversion. But I think my heart's pull toward this is so much stronger than the persecution I may face, I feel like this is a life only partially fulfilled. Persecution is a reality, and it may be a reality I may face, but that isn't all that is being Jewish, and that in particular is why I feel the need to convert
got a question (genuine) for converts. why would someone want to be jewish? why would you wish this life of persecution and hatred upon yourself? why not just stay safe from the terrors we are born into and cannot escape even if we do not practice or identify as such? i am a cultural jew and i am terrified all the time when i read the news about antisemitic attacks and see comments online on videos featuring jewish subjects. why join us? you are stronger than i will ever be, willingly joining a persecuted group of people because you believe in the community it provides. thank you.
#jumblr#jewish conversion#antisemitism tw#so basically it's the last few sentences op wrote out about believing in the community#like absolutely the consequences of persecution are felt so much in jewish communities#i just... i guess me personally i had to weigh out if i want to be alive or just watch longingly from the outside looking in with#i don't think i may ever fall out of love with the jewish community. i can't take for granted this love and i can't let anything stop it#i think that would be heartbreaking if this love were locked away - if /i/ locked it away due to fear#hopefully my words are clear/not offensive and if that isn't the case feel free to let me know because this makes sense to ME#(i'm always afraid my words will only make sense to me and everybody is staring like 'wtf you sayin?')#i think i'd also be persecuted for who i am though in different ways ofc because i'm not 'One of the Normals'#if i am able to be myself in other ways- why would i stop myself from conversion? that's also an aspect of how i personally feel about this
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Since Chanukah is in 2 weeks, let us take this time to remember all the #JewishRefugees around the world who have been discriminated against because of their religion.
The Jewish people have often been persecuted for this, since the dawn of time. It’s time we, Christians, extended our sympathy and gave them a helping hand.
#PrayForTheJews
Remembering the Jewish refugees from #Syria and the immense suffering which Syria has never made amends for.
https://twitter.com/emilykschraderI made these images several years ago. Still, years later, not one country has made amends. Today on Memorial Day, we remember. #JewishRefugees

Remembering the Jewish refugees from #Tunisia and the suffering which Tunisia has never made amends for. Today on Memorial Day for the Jewish refugees from Arab countries, we remember. #JewishRefugees

Remembering the Jewish refugees from #Yemen and the suffering which Yemen has never made amends for. Arab states ethnically cleansed their Jews - yet the world is silent. Today on Memorial Day for the Jewish refugees from Arab countries, we remember. #JewishRefugees

Remembering the Jewish refugees from #Iraq, what was once one of the largest and most thriving communities in the world. Iraq has never made amends for their ethnic cleansing of Jews. Today we remember. #JewishRefugees #IraqProtests

Remembering the Jewish refugees from #Egypt and the suffering which Egypt has never made amends for. Today on Memorial Day for the Jewish refugees from Arab countries, we remember. #JewishRefugees

Remembering the Jewish refugees from #Libya and the suffering which Libya has never made amends for. Today on Memorial Day for the Jewish refugees from Arab countries, we remember. #JewishRefugees

Remembering the Jewish refugees from #Algeria and the suffering which Algeria has never made amends for. Today on Memorial Day for the Jewish refugees from Arab countries, we remember. #JewishRefugees

Remembering the Jewish refugees from #Morocco and the persecution which they faced. While Morocco was far from the worst the #antisemitism they faced greatly harmed Jewish life there. Today on Memorial Day for the Jewish refugees from Arab countries, we remember. #JewishRefugees

Remembering the Jewish refugees from #Lebanon and the suffering which Lebanon has never made amends for. Today on Memorial Day for the Jewish refugees from Arab countries, we remember. #JewishRefugees

(((Emily Schrader)))
#antisemitism //#long post#jews and judaism#judaism#jews#jewish life#jewish persecution#jewish history#antisemitism#antisemitic#antisemetism tw#exile#refugees#pray for the jews#jewishrefugees
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Look, I don't want to be that guy - but this is a reminder that depicting the (now strongly) Jewish-coded Devoraks* as the Devil or vampires is genuinely antisemitic (whether that's the intention or not).
Don't do that.
(This is just a PSA not a call-out post - but yeah it's bad form for either of those things - I understand if you didn't know, but you should be aware.)
TW: Discussion of Antisemitism
In regards to the belief (which people STILL HOLD TODAY) that Jewish people have horns or are otherwise monstrous in form**:
"A widespread medieval negative image of the Jew was based upon a misinterpretation of the Hebrew Bible. Moses was often depicted with two horns on his head as a result of the Latin mis-rendering of the verb “sent forth beams” (karan) in Exodus 34:35 as “grew horns.” (A horn is a keren.) This image, which was widely portrayed in art of the Middle Ages by artists including Michelangelo and Donatello in Italy, led to the widespread notion that all Jews had devilish horns."
This very much has modern trickle-down implications: "The Nazis seized upon the negative Jewish body image and used caricatures and other forms of propaganda to present the Jews as sub-human or as disfigured humans. The Nazi weekly Der Sturmer was famous for disseminating these images." (I will not link them here, suffice to say they are as bad as you can imagine.)
Ties to the Christian Devil*** in relation to Judaism and how this is antisemitic are more than enough for books on the topic which discuss the world's current unfortunate state of antisemitism and it's historical roots.
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Vampirisim**** ties directly to blood libel - again something antisemities still use in their arsenal of anti-Jewish rhetoric.
"Blood libel, also called blood accusation, the superstitious accusation that Jews ritually sacrifice Christian children at Passover to obtain blood for unleavened bread. It first emerged in medieval Europe in the 12th century and was revived sporadically in eastern and central Europe throughout the medieval and modern periods, often leading to the persecution of Jews."
And it's not just 'in old times': "In the 1930s the blood libel became part of Nazi propaganda. It was subsequently a staple of anti-Semitic propaganda in parts of Europe and the Arab world."
These ARE very much things with modern, current issues and implications in our world, where antisemitic rhetoric and practice have genuine, terrible repercussions for an already marginalized people.
Thank you for taking the time to read this.
*Even if trying to distance themselves from real-world religious practices, as NyxHydra has claimed, they have still chosen to depict the Devoraks as having Jewish names, kosher practices, and Julian is straight-up based on a Jewish man (Jeff Goldblum), as well as NyxHydra showing endorsement of the Jewish head-canon for the characters.
**Yes, this does mean bird Julian is on thin ice, but that's a more nuanced issue - as that is a result of his own inner emotional turmoil, and while caricatures involving birds have been used in anti-Jewish propaganda it's less of a staple - still worth critical thought though.
***The Devil as depicted in the Arcana seems to be a Faustian archetype, rather than explicitly a character out of Christian mythology, however, the tie is still there in name, form, and implication.
****Totally inappropriate side-note: personality-wise don't you think Julian would rather be the VICTIM than the VAMPIRE? Come on...
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Tw: talk of antisemitism and Palestine, potential antisemitism on my part.
Appreciate any input people feel comfortable giving, but I’ll be doing my own research as this is a topic that ultimately doesn’t directly affect me. It seems like often when I share a post about “free Palestine,” I often receive a message from a Jewish person expressing that my behavior is antisemitic.
For some background, I have shared plenty of posts about the problem of antisemitism existing alone. I have and continue to acknowledge that Jewish people deserve a safe place exist without persecution, that this idea isn’t inherently bad, and what is happening to Palestinian people is horrific and needs to end. Perhaps this view is dated and unnuanced with more recent information or something like that, and I’m doing the research to see, but when I share the information of the horrible things I read that are happening in Palestine, I try to read through all of it to make sure that there is nothing that appears inherently antisemitic or like a slander of the Jewish people. That being said, I’m not of Jewish descent so it’s highly possible for me to miss things.
There’s this image I saw on Instagram of a picture of Britney Spears, that says “Palestine is next 👀” over it. And in the caption it says “Britney is free and now Palestine will be too.” I received a message in reply from someone that read “As a Jew who has faced countless antisemitism from the free Palestine movement, I ask you to please not post things like this.” I don’t want to ask this person specifically, having been affected by the image to explain themselves, that’s absolutely not fair. And I’m also doing some reading but, if anyone has any input that they feel inclined to share of their own accord about what I can do better, I want you to know that I’m listening.
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So I just got my hands on the 1938 German dub of Snow White and started thinking about the cast. A lot of information about them has been lost, since a lot of the cast was Jewish. So, here's a small list of them (again, a lot of information was lost so I can't cover all of them) and what happened to them.
(Tw! a lot of anti-semetism, genocide, Hitler, and Nazi stuff under the cut)
Snow White - Hortense Raky (1918 - 2006) She was a German born Austrian actress, and was 19 at the time of recording. She fled to Switzerland after the annexation of Austria, but got to return to Vienna after the war. She died at the age of 90 on September 25, 2006.

The Queen/Witch - Dora Gerson (1899 - 1943) She was a Jewish singer and actress of the silent film era. She was 39 at the time of the recording. She began her career as a touring singer and actress, during which she met her first husband, Veit Harlan. They divorced in 1924. Later, Veit would direct anti-semetic propoganda films under supposed coercion. She remarried to Max Sluzier, and had two children with him, Miriam Sluzier, and Abel Juda Sluzier. After the Nazi party came in to power, she was blacklisted on working on "Aryan films". So, she started working for a small Jewish record company. She also began recording in Yiddish. She went to the Netherlands to escape Nazi persecution. After the Netherlands was invaded, Dora and her family were caught fleeing to Switzerland. They were sent by railroad car to Drancy internment camp bound for Auschwitz were they died. Dora, her husband and her children died on February 14, 1943.She was 43, Maz was 36, Miriam was 5, and Abel was 2. Her body was lost or destroyed.

Sleepy, Bashful and the Magic Mirror - Kurt Gerron (1897 - 1944). He was a Jewish actor and Director, and was 41 at the time of filming. He studied medicine before he was deployed in World War 1, and after being seriously injured, he was qualified to be a Military doctor despite having been only in his second year of university. After world war 1, he became an actor and a director in 1920. After the Nazi government came into power, he fled with his wife and parents, first to Paris and then to Amsterdam. He continued to work as an actor there, and despite being offered many jobs in Hollywood, he refused to leave Europe. After the occupation of the Netherlands, they were captured and sent to a transit camp at Westerbork. His parents were deported and murdered in Sobibor. Kurt and his wife, Olga were sent to Theresienstadt concentration camp, where they were forced to make a lot of propoganda films. Once filming was done, the film crew were sent to Aushchwitz, were they were murdered immediately on arrival. They died on the 28th of October, 1944. Kurt was 47, and Olga was 48.

Doc and Chef - Otto Wallburg ( 1889 - 1944) He was a prolific actor of the late silent film, and early sound era. He was 48 at the time of recording. He was the son of a Jewish banker. He started stage acting before being deployed into world war 1. He was wounded whilst on the Eastern front after winning an iron cross. After 1926, he started working in the German film industry. He fled to Austria where he kept working in film. He was arrested on 1940, following German invasion. He was held for a while at Westerbrok transit camp befor being taken to Auschwitz where he died at the age of 55. He died on the 29th of October.

Sneezy and Grumpy - Kurt Lilien (1888 - 1943) He was a Jewish actor. He was 56 at the time of recording. He appeared in 50 films between 1919 and 1933. He was arrested and sent to Sobibor extermination camp where he was murdered on May 28 of 1943 at the age of 60.

Happy - Siegfried Arno (1895 - 1975) He was best known as Toto in The Palm Beach Story. He was also a well known stage comedian. He fled Germany and later Europe, and went to work in Hollywood, making him the only Jewish cast member that made it out of Nazi Germany alive. During the next 20 years, he appeared in films often as a waiter, and a "funny European". He was nominated for a Tony award as Best actor for his work on the play "Time remembered" in 1958. In 1966, he won an honorary award at the German Film Awards "for his continued outstanding individual contributions to the German film over the years." He died from Parkinson's disease in California on August 17, 1975, at the age of 79.

It's sad to think and know about the horrible things that happened to them and the people of that time (and today), but sometimes that's the point. It's to be sad and uncomfortable about the things that happened, and see how those things persist in different ways even today.
#antisemitism tw#tw antisemitism#death tw#murder tw#child death tw#genocide tw#world war ii#snow white and the 7 dwarfs#disney#i cried a lot while writing this#my shirt is now soaked because i have no tissues#i'll cheer myself up somehow now
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The Bid part 1 (ABO)
The Bid (A/B/O):
Ari Levinson (Alpha) x Eurydice Sideris (Omega, OFC)
TW!: dark themes, human trafficking, sexual themes, eventual smut, religious themes (Jewish), pagan themes, implied elements of torture, 1980s (or my best attempt), drugs, mafia themes, elements of past torture, religious persecution, strangers to lovers, Satanic panic, cussing, abo dynamics.
Summary:
After accomplishing the impossible, Ari Levinson left the promised land and went to the land of the free. He settled in Boston. He went to a football game on the good graces of the mayor of Boston (Charles Blackwood) , and discovered sinister happenings that seemed much too familiar to him.
Characters:
Ari Levinson (Portrayed by Chris Evans, as seen in the film Red Sea Diving Resort)
Eurydice Sideris (Portrayed by Emmy Rossum, as seen in various titles but mostly the TV series Shameless)
Charles Blackwood (Portrayed by Sebastian Stan)
Esperanza Domingo (Portrayed by Michelle Rodriguez)
Author’s note: sorry this one is short. I know it is different. And I don't intend to offend anyone! I hope this is interesting enough for my readers. Message me if you are confused about anything. I apologize in advance for accuracy errors.
The Bid
Part 1: The Pure One
1982, Boston, Massachusetts:
Eurydice Sideris:
They dolled me up, made sure they covered up the bruises, put me in a skimpy dress and drugged me. They made sure to accentuate my scent too. How? Well that was a mystery, but I’m far from home. I could barely remember what or where home was but I remember the sea. The melodies that the waves made as they crashed onto the shore. During all of this chaos, I held onto the sea, and the one born from the ocean foam. That Aphrodite herself had kept me hanging on, kept me safe, at least safer than the others.
My feet were unsteady in these high heels. They dragged me up when I stumbled and hit me more, only in places that weren’t visible. Out of my entire faith, the soulmates legend is the one thing I didn't believe in. At least until I was face to face with an Alpha, the one I was staring at now. He looked like he lived life on the edge. He didn’t belong there, at least not next to the other Alpha who looked like they were acquaintances.
He was striking and even more so his scent. When the aroma flew through my lungs, it felt like freedom. What a strange thing to feel. Freedom had been taken from me for so long and now it was gawking at me, drinking me in with hungry blue eyes. It was then that I realized Aphrodite had answered my prayers. She was somewhere there in this Alpha’s eyes. That unmistakable color of the sea and the voracious and primal yearning.
All this time, just when I began to lose faith, to crumble. This tiny silent moment had tears dampening your eyes. I knew and he knew at that moment the two had found the other half. The millennia of wandering the Earth generation after generation, searching for my half was finally complete. How cruel though to be dragged through the mud to get to you, my Alpha.
“Starting price is 10.” yelled out one man. Ten dollars!? What am I? Chopped liver? I didn’t spend five years in the shithole to get sold for 2 Abraham Lincoln's. The Alpha turned to his friend, confused. I caught more of his scent just then. Noticing how his aroma deepened, taking note of the dry wine. His nicely dressed friend chuckled at whatever conversation they were having. Your Alphas eyes widened and he chewed on the inside of his cheek, contemplating. The price must have been much higher than I initially thought.
“30!” yelled a man from the back. The gavel rose slightly, waiting for its sentence. Once its sharp cry would ring out, I’d be officially sold. Please, please, Aphrodite! Let me be with my true love.
“50!” said another Alpha. I closed my eyes. I couldn’t watch.
“100!” said a closer voice.
“200!” said the last voice, desperation seeping from his lips.
“200, that’s 200. Anyone else for a higher wage? 200. Going once. 200. Going twice, that’s 200 folks! Sold! To the Alpha standing in the middle row.” The auctioneer announced. My lips trembled with fear. The gavel struck, its sharp sound ringing in your ear. One tear fell, ruining the make up they had hastily thrown on.
I opened my eyes slowly to see him. The one meant for you. The soul Zeus himself had separated my own from all those years ago. He was panting, like he was unsure the outcome had really happened. It happened so fast like instinct had taken over.
A different Alpha took my arm, gripping it tight, being sure to dig his nails into my tender flesh. The man set me down in the seat next to the stranger who’d just bought me. The stranger took notice of this and gave him a look and a growl that could have killed. He paid no more attention to the worthless piece of shit than was necessary.
He unbuttoned his denim shirt and took it off, draping it over my shoulders, filled with goosebumps. He was wearing another shirt under it, he wasn’t naked, but just from the look of him, I wanted to invest in that endeavor.
“I’m Ari. You’re safe now, Omega.” he whispered in my ear as he clothed me. His breath was warm and melted the cold air stinging my skin. He held out his hand, resting it on the arm of the seat. I took it, feeling its strong muscles underneath and the calloused skin on its surface. I almost forgot to breathe. Leaning in, locks of my long brunette hair falling into my face.
“It’s Eurydice. Unless you’d like me to call you Alpha instead of Ari.” I had to test the waters, throw in a curve ball of my own. Something to let him know I meant business. My own name was so foreign falling off my rose tinted lips. Those fuckers made me forget who I was. Given me a number instead, stamped it high on my neck. It was another form of humiliation. A tactic to degrade me to dehumanize me. If anyone would claim me, they’d see the mark. Number 394. They covered it up of course. Can’t have imperfections on Selling Night during halftime at the football game. It was an odd place to be sold in the first place but for the mob it was perfect. It was all done in the VIP rooms, where it was less conspicuous and ‘Megas like me could be bought at a pretty penny. It happened once every three months.
Most Omegas didn’t make it this far in five years. Some of them died after three. I honestly don’t know how I got to this point, but I felt something close to happiness at that moment.
He smirked. “Eurydice is a beautiful name.” His voice was sweet molasses to my ears. At first I didn't feel comfortable resting my head on his shoulder. But with the high from whatever drug they gave me wearing off, I didn’t care about much else other than sleep.
I hesitantly set my head down. His shoulder is firm with muscle yet so comforting, so right. Ari gripped my hand back, his thumb nonchalantly stroking my skin. I sighed, content and whiplashed from the events of today. I’ve been on edge for the past five years. I never knew I needed this kind of sleep. One where I didn't have to worry about a rut-crazed Alpha having their way with me in the middle of the night. This was the first day of the rest of my life. As with the Phoenix, I felt like I'd risen from ashes.
End part 1.- part 2 to be written soon.
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#abo#omegaverse#alpha!ari#ari levinson#chris evans role#OFC#red sea diving resort#charles blackwood#strangers to lovers#eventual smut#eventual happy ending#religious themes#hellenic polytheism#jewish characters#interfaith couple#mafia#sebastian stan roles#a/b/o dynamics#a/b/o universe#a/b/o#a/b/o fic
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dis binch.
#if there's anything u need to know about me#is that i love learning stuff about my ethnicity and where i come from ??#personally#im most proud of my jewish heritage for sure#my grandfather grew up in an orthodox jewish fam#*family#they were literally forced out of their homes in russia so that they could escape persecution#basically#antisemitism can get smashed#thats my message#im done#╰ ▧ ჻ CAFFEINE MOTHERTRUCKER / ‘ ooc.#tw: antisemitism
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January 6, 2021 (TW: Domestic Terrorism)
I’m a Jewish woman of color (indigenous Latina). If you think for one second I’m shocked about the events that took place on January 6, 2021, you clearly haven't been paying attention. I will not grant the rotting tangerine any respect by saying his name. Instead, I’ll refer to him as he is, Orange H*tler.
This is by far the least surprising thing that has happened in Orange H*tler’s presidency. The people in minority communities- especially the Jewish community- knew we were in danger when we recognized his rhetoric. We’ve heard it in other countries and other points in time, but we didn’t expect it to be so blatant as it was in ours with him. We know it from our heritage and our ancestors who either escaped or died in the holocaust or escaped or died in other times of Anti-Semitic persecution.
However, the Holocaust is most remembered because not only was it the most recent, it was also filmed and photographed. Therefore, the Jewish community is aware of the signs of danger when it comes to the possibility of another Genocide.
I called it from the moment he announced he was running. “He’s gonna win.” He did. He used the same speech format as H*tler. (Not surprising, given he literally had a book of H*tler speeches by his bedside at one point.) This isn’t rocket science. When his supporters wear shirts that say “6MWE,” it stands for “6 million wasn’t enough.” This isn’t only about the Jewish community, of course. It’s about all POC and minorities, which makes the “master race” uncomfy.
Many people are saying, “shocked but not surprised.” And they’re right; I am shocked. I’m shocked it’s taken this long.
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Ok hear me out. WWI Echo and Fives took over my brain. I’m not a writer, so here’s some plot points! TW: for war trauma mentioned.
The Great War
WWI AU
Echo and Fives
Go to the same boarding school in Britain with other 501st vod (brothers-in-arms in this case, not clones. Maybe some can be brothers. Whatever!)
Become close, learn the usual boarding school stuff of the time: modern languages, political leadership, military theory, and commerce (thank you history.com and Dr. Who)
Join the war effort. They are in their early 20s? Maybe had started university or other things after boarding/ prep school (cute flirting here?). Rex is captain (he is a few years older). You get Obi-wan and Anakin and Cody in the mix too. Lots of the 501st too. Maybe Echo or Fives get a brief glimpse of Cody and Obiwan being more than fellow soldiers and it gives them hope.
Ahsoka is a badass field nurse? Kix is there too.
Echo and Fives fall in love on the front lines?
Echo gets blown up/ actually kidnapped.
The same thing basically happens to him, experiments, maybe some magical realism/ Hellboy type magic to give him telepathy, mechanical limbs. Etc.
Fives doesn't die (because he deserves so much better.)
A few soldiers (RIP Tup) experience strange orders/ mind control (due to the Hellboy magic… OR evil sith lord controlling everything. Who knowwwwsss) but it is explained away as shock/ shitty understandings of trauma at the time.
Echo uses the telepathy whatever (by accident or intentionally. Not sure how aware he is) to send Rex his name, rank, company and regiment (dogtag info). Rex is like holy shit is echo alive????
Rex knows about Fives and Echo (not all the vod do. You know, THE TIMES.) And he is a good Captain and brother and tells Fives. Action rescue take down the telepathy site. Bad Batch special ops team here?
Echo is crazy fucked up but they save him. Fives is sweet and good and is there for him.
The war eventually comes to an end.
Echo and Fives go to live in Berlin where it was shockingly progressive and a gay haven between the wars!
Great Terry Gross interview. CW: for government and Nazi persecution of gay and Jewish people. https://www.npr.org/2014/12/17/371424790/between-world-wars-gay-culture-flourished-in-berlin
Un-ending fluff about their lives in Berlin. The end.
Gorgeous writers, if this interests you, it is yours. 🤣
Sorry in advance for all the visual nonsense I will be creating for this world 😌
#Star Wars#the clone wars#echo and fives#fives x echo#echo x fives#sw fic#wwi au#TCW#clone trooper#arc trooper fives#arc trooper echo
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