#tw Jewish persecution

[ya-what--ya-erster]

what if what if what if

what if (and idk much like history wise so idk if this even works but it is A Thought)

(also worth mentioning that I thought of this cause I dreamed about it-)

in 1936 the Jacobs family travels to Poland to be with family. Jack is absolutely devastated that they leave, all but Les, who stays to go to school. He refuses to return any letters from the family and just wants to forget all about them.

But he picks up a newspaper one day and reads about the war, and what’s happening to Jewish people over there, and suddenly he’s sending a letter every day, praying that by some miracle David or *someone* will answer.

He’s in the middle of writing one of these letters when there’s a knock on his door and none other than Les Jacobs stand across from him, looking like a scared cat on the street, and he just falls into Jacks arms and cries because *did you read the news today*

Headline: David Jacobs, co-leader of Newsies strike killed, along with parents and sister

Jack has never felt more torn apart.

Les moves in with him, because what is he supposed to do, leave him to fend for himself?

And Jack finds his way back to old friends who are all mourning the loss of the boy with bright blue eyes and a smart mouth.

Additionally- I want to hear from y’all if I end up writing about this I want to know what I need to do to be respectful and sensitive of this topic and everything and I want to know everything you have to say! If I’m being a dick I’m relying on y’all to call me tf out on it cause I don’t wanna be a dick

[cabinetofotherthings]

i have a historiographical quibble with how the antisemitic campaigns in the soviet union in 1948–1953 are often framed as an extension of the holocaust in the scholarship rather than being fully considered within the context of the soviet nationalities policy. except when i'm applying for funding from institutions that do holocaust studies. then i'm fine with it

[greensaplinggrace]

“but the otkazat’sya are suffering too!” girl the otkazat’sya have one thousand safe havens to choose from. because it is their entire country and they are the privileged majority. they never have to fear that they are alone or isolated or vulnerable in a land that caters directly to them. do you understand. the grisha have one safe haven in a land that fucking hates them and seeks to strip away their basic human rights at every second. they are not the same.

Wdyt about Israel Palestine

i think that anybody trying to bring a real life attempt at fucking genocide into petty fandom bullshit maybe needs to take a step back a little. what the fuck is wrong with you people.

i think that i don't know nearly enough about the situation to make a statement about anything, but it's pretty damn obvious that israel is making an attempt at wiping out palestine. next person to bring this subject into my ask box as fandom discourse is getting blocked by the way. there are people fucking dying out there right now.

i also think that it's fucking ridiculous to take a statement out of context and try to spin it in some accusatory direction, considering the context is that the otkazat'sya hold irrevocable power within this fictional universe and seek to cull the grisha despite their safe haven. which is genocide. last I checked genocide is bad. it really shouldn't have to be stated that this is fucking fiction versus reality, though. literally what the fuck.

[what-even-is-sleep]

Finally filled out a form that had Jewish as an option under ethnicity!!!!!!!!

[pinktwingirl]

Hi. I’m Israeli, I saw a few of your posts and I would like to share my perspective with you.

You talk a lot about Zionism as an ideology, but I think it’s important to distinguish between the ideology itself and what is being done today.

Zionism is an ideology that states that Jews have a right for self determination in their own state. A lot of it is rooted in religion, but a large part of it was a response to Jewish persecution in Europe, North Africa and the Middle East. Being a minority you are essentially helpless when people decide to pillage you or treat you like a second class citizen (and yes, that also happened to Jews in North Africa and the Middle East) when you have your own state, you can at least defend yourself.

Just like any other group of people can strive for self determination (including Palestinians) so can Jews. It’s not just a matter of being secluded from others, or being elitist, it’s a matter of insuring your own security as much as you can as a people.

Zionism is not an evil ideology. You can maybe argue that the way it was achieving its goal is evil, but by that logic you can also argue that Palestinians are evil since they had also committed heinous acts against Jews in this land way before the invention of Zionism and even before they defined themselves as Palestinians.

Zionism is also very tied to Judaism. The longing for returning to “the homeland” is referenced throughout countless Jewish texts in the diaspora, again, way before the invention of Zionism.

There are some sects of Judaism that are against it, but saying “hey, Judaism and Zionism are completely detached!” Is I’d say… incorrect. Like to a point where the overwhelming majority of practicing Jews have some sort of Zionist views.

So about the situation today. in an ideal world, I believe that Palestinians have a right for self determination as much as we do. Saying Zionism is just like this evil, western colonial power, whose sole purpose is to harm and torture Palestinians is very very incorrect.

Thanks for reading, have a nice day 🙏🏽

This is gonna take me a whole essay to respond to so I’m gonna do y’all a favor and put a cut below feel free to read more if you want

If Zionism were purely about “Jewish self-determination”, that would be one thing. However, the reality is that the ideology of Zionism is inseparable from anti-Arab racism and the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians. The argument you are making only works if you are operating under the assumption that Palestine was an empty piece of land before it was settled by Israelis, which is a notion that many Zionists have tried to push, hence the Zionist slogan: “A land without a people for a people without a land.” However, this is not true. There were always people living in Palestine, and there is no way that an exclusively Jewish state could have existed there without systematically murdering them and expelling them from their land. If you go back and read the texts of the original Zionist leaders, they make it explicitly clear that this was their objective from the very beginning. Ilan Pappe’s book “The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine” documents this extensively. I’ll include a few excerpts here. This is Zionist leader David Ben-Gurion’s second in command Moshe Sharett explaining how he wanted to pay off villagers to leave in order to “reduce the number of Arabs” in Palestine:

This is the description of “Plan Dalet”, which was explicitly designed to drive out Palestinians and murder whoever remained:

This is David Ben-Gurion explicitly saying that even 40% “non-Jews” (aka Arabs) in Palestine was unacceptable:

This is an example of how Plan Dalet was carried out in the village of Deir Yassin (tw: murder, sexual assault, this is extremely graphic)

While to some, Zionism might seem like a nice idea, in practice, it requires murder and systematic cruelty towards the Palestinian population that is continuing to this day. This is why people are opposed to it. It has nothing to do with religion or antisemitism; it is because people can very plainly see that the occupation and genocide it has caused is morally wrong. To quote Dr. Gabor Mate on why he is no longer a Zionist: “Yes, we created this beautiful dream, but we created a nightmare for somebody else.”

I don’t know what percentage of the Jewish population are Zionists, but I think the fact that there is such a strong Jewish anti-Zionist community is proof enough that Zionism should not be linked to Judaism. In fact, you could even argue that saying so is antisemitic because it implies that every single Jewish person is complicit in Israel’s war crimes, which is not true. Furthermore, I strongly believe that many Jewish Zionists subscribe to the ideology because they have been told lies and propaganda about the creation of Israel. It is very evident that Israel is going out of its way to cover up its crimes against Palestinians (i.e. outlawing mentioning the Nakba, planting trees over destroyed Palestinian villages to make it look like nothing was ever there, etc.) I think more Jewish people would have second thoughts about Zionism if they knew the truth behind the ideology.

As for the notion that the military occupation and apartheid of Palestinians is somehow “necessary” for Jewish safety, I would say that this is not only untrue but also makes no sense. Violence is inherently necessary to run a military state and keep a population under an occupation, and violence is always going to beget more violence, which is the exact opposite of the “safe utopia” that Israel strives to depict itself as. Think about it: if you were in a Palestinian’s shoes, would you not do exactly what they are doing? If you were born under a military occupation where you were routinely at risk of being bombed and having your home stolen by settlers, would you not resist by any means necessary, even if it meant resorting to violence? At the end of the day, the only difference between you and a Palestinian is luck in where you were born - that’s it. Safety is not achieved by oppressing others. Safety is achieved with peace and respect for others. I am not against Israelis living in Palestine. But there is no reason why Palestinians need to be ethnically cleansed for that to happen. People of different religions coexisted in Palestine before Israel; there is no reason why that can’t happen again. The more Israelis that realize ending the occupation is in their best interest, the faster the violence will end. It really is that simple.

[jewishbarbies]

I really hope this doesn't offend you because that is not what I'm aiming for. I don't know how to do tw. Tw : Zionism

Is Zionist an insult? Because what I saw is this definition and it didn't really scream bad. Maybe I am just dense. I don't know, can you help me out?

"Zionism (Hebrew: צִיּוֹנוּת Tsiyyonut [tsijoˈnut] after Zion) is a nationalist movement that emerged in the 19th century to espouse support for the establishment of a homeland for the Jewish people in Palestine, a region roughly corresponding to the Land of Israel in Jewish tradition."

no, imo it’s not an insult, because there’s different kinds of zionism but the core value is believing that Jews have a right to self determination in their own homeland, which is israel. the goal in creating the country we know today was to give jews escaping worldwide persecution a safe place to go because there wasn’t one before that. christians and politicians misuse zionism on a daily basis and it’s important to distinguish between non jews using zionism to further their own bullshit and jews who believe they have a right to exist in the land they’re indigenous to. some jews who believe that don’t identify with zionism just because it’s been so misconstrued and misused.

[titan-god-helios]

(tw the holocaust, ableism, homophobia, transphobia, racism, murder, war, brief vomit mention, gore, violence) okay while i'm here, might as well just say something real quick

in my history class at the moment, we're learning about WW2, specifically the holocaust, and it made me remember things about this horrific event that should have never been forgotten, by anyone, ever. for the longest time, I only thought that jewish people (bless their souls and may they forever rest in peace) were targeted by hitler and his sickos. but in the last few years or so, i learnt about his persecution of transgender, queer, black, asian and otherwise poc, disabled and autistic people, as well as jewish. i learned about the atrocities of the collaboration between hans asperger and his fellow nazis, i learnt about how the killings happened and i read and read and read all the while growing sicker and sicker. because these are my people. countless autistics who were not deemed "useful" were thrown to the lions so to speak, the same with trangender and queer people of all races. these people, these minority groups are ones which i belong to. and it still makes me beyond sick to think about what happened during that bastard's reign of fucking terror. and it wasn't just these groups he targeted (duh). he targeted the world. he wasn't just a dictator over his own, he wanted to purge the fucking world of people he deemed unworthy of his reign. he was sick. fucking sick. everytime i think of the events that transpired during the holocaust and world war two, i feel like throwing up until my guts are out on the floor in front of me. what really kills me ? what makes me lose even more faith in humanity ? people want this fucking despicable, evil, downright vile monster to carry on his work, posthumously. how do people not fucking understand, how do these bastard neo-nazis not realise the sheer... i don't even have a word for it. i'm just speechless. and angry. hateful. filled with fucking rage, because no matter how much i don't want to admit it, i know that the question isn't, "why don't they understand," but, "why do they ignore their understanding. knowingly." hitler was like a plague. every single vile accusation or dehumanising comment or phrase or comparison between inhuman pests and jewish, poc, queer, trans and disabled people, slavic people and every single person who did not fit his "standards" - every single one is simply an apt description of the monster himself and all his bastard followers who had full consciousness of what they were doing and supported him. who hailed him. who willingly and authentically danced through the streets of fallen nations, ravaged by theirs and screamed hitler's name in joy. who saluted to "mein fraulein" with a happy heart. who still do. to anyone who does, i genuinely hope you cease to exist. the world needs to be eradicated from the likes of you. you bastards who parade your beliefs around like they're honourable and ruin the lives of the world's jewish and minority siblings. who ruin the lives of our people. to everyone who is sick and twisted and beyond evil and supports or is a neo-nazi, just know that we are chasing you out with fire. and we will win.

[innuwu]

So I just got my hands on the 1938 German dub of Snow White and started thinking about the cast. A lot of information about them has been lost, since a lot of the cast was Jewish. So, here's a small list of them (again, a lot of information was lost so I can't cover all of them) and what happened to them.

(Tw! a lot of anti-semetism, genocide, Hitler, and Nazi stuff under the cut)

Snow White - Hortense Raky (1918 - 2006) She was a German born Austrian actress, and was 19 at the time of recording. She fled to Switzerland after the annexation of Austria, but got to return to Vienna after the war. She died at the age of 90 on September 25, 2006.

The Queen/Witch - Dora Gerson (1899 - 1943) She was a Jewish singer and actress of the silent film era. She was 39 at the time of the recording. She began her career as a touring singer and actress, during which she met her first husband, Veit Harlan. They divorced in 1924. Later, Veit would direct anti-semetic propoganda films under supposed coercion. She remarried to Max Sluzier, and had two children with him, Miriam Sluzier, and Abel Juda Sluzier. After the Nazi party came in to power, she was blacklisted on working on "Aryan films". So, she started working for a small Jewish record company. She also began recording in Yiddish. She went to the Netherlands to escape Nazi persecution. After the Netherlands was invaded, Dora and her family were caught fleeing to Switzerland. They were sent by railroad car to Drancy internment camp bound for Auschwitz were they died. Dora, her husband and her children died on February 14, 1943.She was 43, Maz was 36, Miriam was 5, and Abel was 2. Her body was lost or destroyed.

Sleepy, Bashful and the Magic Mirror - Kurt Gerron (1897 - 1944). He was a Jewish actor and Director, and was 41 at the time of filming. He studied medicine before he was deployed in World War 1, and after being seriously injured, he was qualified to be a Military doctor despite having been only in his second year of university. After world war 1, he became an actor and a director in 1920. After the Nazi government came into power, he fled with his wife and parents, first to Paris and then to Amsterdam. He continued to work as an actor there, and despite being offered many jobs in Hollywood, he refused to leave Europe. After the occupation of the Netherlands, they were captured and sent to a transit camp at Westerbork. His parents were deported and murdered in Sobibor. Kurt and his wife, Olga were sent to Theresienstadt concentration camp, where they were forced to make a lot of propoganda films. Once filming was done, the film crew were sent to Aushchwitz, were they were murdered immediately on arrival. They died on the 28th of October, 1944. Kurt was 47, and Olga was 48.

Doc and Chef - Otto Wallburg ( 1889 - 1944) He was a prolific actor of the late silent film, and early sound era. He was 48 at the time of recording. He was the son of a Jewish banker. He started stage acting before being deployed into world war 1. He was wounded whilst on the Eastern front after winning an iron cross. After 1926, he started working in the German film industry. He fled to Austria where he kept working in film. He was arrested on 1940, following German invasion. He was held for a while at Westerbrok transit camp befor being taken to Auschwitz where he died at the age of 55. He died on the 29th of October.

Sneezy and Grumpy - Kurt Lilien (1888 - 1943) He was a Jewish actor. He was 56 at the time of recording. He appeared in 50 films between 1919 and 1933. He was arrested and sent to Sobibor extermination camp where he was murdered on May 28 of 1943 at the age of 60.

Happy - Siegfried Arno (1895 - 1975) He was best known as Toto in The Palm Beach Story. He was also a well known stage comedian. He fled Germany and later Europe, and went to work in Hollywood, making him the only Jewish cast member that made it out of Nazi Germany alive. During the next 20 years, he appeared in films often as a waiter, and a "funny European". He was nominated for a Tony award as Best actor for his work on the play "Time remembered" in 1958. In 1966, he won an honorary award at the German Film Awards "for his continued outstanding individual contributions to the German film over the years." He died from Parkinson's disease in California on August 17, 1975, at the age of 79.

It's sad to think and know about the horrible things that happened to them and the people of that time (and today), but sometimes that's the point. It's to be sad and uncomfortable about the things that happened, and see how those things persist in different ways even today.

[lesfeldickbiblestudy]

  Through the Bible with Les Feldick LESSON 2 * PART 3 * BOOK 70 ADULTEROUS ISRAEL TO BE RESTORED – PART 3 Hosea 2:14 – 4:14 Once again, it’s good to have everybody back from the coffee break. We’re doing program number three this afternoon. We’re going to go right back and pick up what I didn’t finish in the last program.  For those of you on television, if you’re just tuning in, we’ve been talking about Israel being scattered into all the nations of the world. We started with our references in Deuteronomy, and now we’re back up into Ezekiel.  That’s where we’re going to pick up – right where we left off in Ezekiel 37, how the Nation of Israel is out there scattered into every nation under heaven, but the time would come when they would start coming back to their homeland. Now of course, it didn’t happen over night.  It really started in the late 1800’s, 1890-95, somewhere in that neck of the woods when Jewish leaders started talking about a homeland.  They and Great Britain, of course, who had the empire that circled the globe, were the major players.  So, a politician in England by the name of Balfour (Arthur James) and the Jews made the Balfour Declaration--that was that the Jews could have a homeland in the Middle East. First they had it drawn clear across the Jordan Valley and on into what is present-day Iraq and Jordan, but the Arab world put up such a howl that Great Britain backed off.  Instead they designated it from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean.  So anyway, the Jews back then were being forced by persecution and every other which way, that was long before Hitler came on the scene.  So, a lot of the Jews started making their way back from North Africa, Morocco and in that area.  Then the rest of the Arab world started persecuting them unmercifully, so they finally left Syria.  I don’t think there’s a Jew left in Syria, certainly not in Iran. As a result of all that, they gradually made their way back to the homeland. In 1948 they declared themselves a Sovereign State.  Okay, so all that has come in fulfillment of this. Come back with me now at the opening to Hosea chapter 3 verse 4, so that we can be where we want to start every program in Hosea.  Back to chapter 3 verse 4 where we’re talking about the dispersion.  How that for a long time they’ll be out there in all the nations of the world, verse 4. Hosea 3:4-5a “For the children of Israel shall abide many days without a king, and without a prince, and without a sacrifice, and without an image, and without an ephod, and without teraphim:” In other words, they had nothing of their religion, as much as I hate to use the word.  All right, then the key word in verse 5 is—“Afterward…”  All right, but we’re not going to look at the “afterward” yet, until we go back and finish some of those verses with regard to all those 1900 and some years that Israel was scattered into the nations of the world. All right, come back where you were with the dry bones in Ezekiel 37 verse 11.  Here’s where we have the interpretation of this vision. Ezekiel 37:11 “Then he (the LORD) said unto me, (the prophet) Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel: (Now that tells you right up front that ten tribes are not lost.  All Twelve Tribes are still involved even at this point in time.) behold, they say, Our bones are dried, and our hope is lost: we are cut off for our parts.”  In other words, that was when they were out amongst the Gentile world--verse 12. Ezekiel 37:12a “Therefore, prophesy and say unto them, (these scattered Jews) Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves,…” Now, the best way I can explain that in recent history was when the Soviet Union collapsed, and one of the first results of that collapse was permission for the Jews to immigrate out and down to Israel or wherever. It was a providential thing. As soon as the Jews had the opportunity, I think in the first two years of the 90’s--1990, 91, 92, something like two million Jews left Russia to go to the Nation of Israel.

  In fact, Iris and I ran into a family of them down on the Dead Sea.  The parents couldn’t talk English but the kids could.  So we could communicate with the family through the kids.  But it was typical of Russians who had left Russia because now the bars were lowered. All right, that’s exactly what I think of when it says here “I will open your graves.”  When the Gentile world would finally give permission for Jews to leave their nation and go wherever they wanted to go.  Of course, a lot of them ended up there in their homeland of Israel.  All right, reading on. Ezekiel 37:12b “…O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel.”  Now, do you see how providential that is?  You know, I’ve shared it on the program before, and I’ll do it again.  The first time Iris and I were in Israel, we came out of the hotel restaurant that evening and a well-dressed businessman approached us. He said, “You’re from America, aren’t you?”  We said, “Yes.”  He said, “What do you think of our little country?”  I said, “It’s fabulous what God has done!”   He said, “God didn’t have a thing to do with it.  We did it!”    “Well,” I said, “I beg to differ.  But I’m not going to argue with someone in his homeland.” But see, that was their idea, that they did it.  No, they didn’t!  God did it!  Against all the odds.  My goodness, Great Britain did everything in their power to keep any Jews from coming to the land of Israel.  But they got there.  And then the Arab world consorted to drive them into the sea, but it never happened.  Even to this day, they talk about it.  It’s not going to happen, because God has sovereignly designated that they are going to come to their homeland. Okay, so now they’re back according to Ezekiel. Now, let’s just stop at one verse on our way to the Book of Acts, so that you’ll see what James was referring to.  Turn to the Book of Amos, that’s right after Hosea--Joel then Amos.  Amos the last chapter, chapter 9, this is an interesting verse. Yet, it was in such a veiled form that Israel’s prophets didn’t catch it.  Jesus, of course, never alluded to it.  But now as we can read and look back, we know that this is what the prophet was talking about.  Amos chapter 9 and again, we’re talking about the dispersed Nation of Israel in those first nine – ten verses.  But now look at verse 11. Amos 9:11 “In that day (When God will finally have His people back in their homeland.) will I  raise up the tabernacle of David that is fallen, and close up the breaches thereof; and I will raise up his ruins, and I will build it (Now remember, we’re talking about King David’s day.) as in the days of old:”  Now, you remember what I said in one of the earlier programs this afternoon?  When did Israel reach the pinnacle?  During David’s and Solomon’s reign.  The glorious Kingdom of David.  What did the Queen of Sheba say?  “The half has never yet been told.”  Of what?  The glory of David’s kingdom.  All right, so this is the analogy.  It’s going to be restored with the glory that it was in David’s day, only far, far greater. Amos 9:12 “That they (the Nation of Israel) may possess the remnant of Edom, and of all the heathen, (the Gentile world) which are called by my name, saith the LORD that doeth this.”  In other words, God is going to bring Israel back to the homeland at some point in time.  He’s going to return and set up this glorious kingdom promised to Israel. All right, now I made mention of Acts chapter 15. Here we have the record of the Jerusalem Council.  And I think, according to some of the ancient writers, this was in A.D. 51.  Now get your numbers – Christ was crucified in A.D. 29.  I feel that the Apostle Paul was converted in A.D. 37.  He began his ministry in A.D. 40. Now, he is being confronted by the Judaizers from the Jerusalem Jewish church and told that his converts had to be circumcised and keep the Law of Moses.  That was the whole purpose of the Jerusalem council.

  All right, now I’m not going to take the time to take you through all that. As you come to the end of that council, the leadership of the Jerusalem church recognized Paul’s Apostleship and that he would be going to the Gentiles, come in at verse 12. Acts 15:12 “Then all the multitude kept silence, and gave audience to Barnabas and Paul, (Who had been ministering up in Antioch, remember, as well as in Turkey and so forth.)  declaring what miracles and wonders God had wrought among (What people?) the Gentiles by them.”  Now this is unheard of.  God had done all kinds of miracles in Israel, but amongst the Gentiles?  Unheard of! All right, so they took this all in as the argument is now being kind of put to rest, because they are recognizing that Paul and Barnabas do now have a ministry with the Gentiles that Israel was never permitted to do.  All right, now verse 13. Acts 15:13 “And after they had held their peace, (The tumult was quieting down.) James answered, (We know from Galatians chapter 2 that James was the moderator of this Jerusalem council.) saying, Men and brethren, hearken unto me: 14. Simeon (Peter) hath declared how God at the first did visit the (What?) Gentiles, to take out of them…” Now keep your pronouns right.  Who are the “them” now?  The Gentile world.  Paul has been designated to go to the Gentiles. Acts 15:14b “…to take out of them a people for his name.”  Now, Acts can’t tell us what it is, because it really hasn’t been totally revealed.  But you get to Paul’s letters and what do we call it?  The Body of Christ.  The Body of Christ is that called-out group of Gentile believers under Paul’s Gospel of Grace that has believed for salvation that Jesus died for their sins, was buried, and rose again the third day. The Body of Christ is totally insulated from all the promises of Israel. Now, let’s see my timeline again.  Here we come past the rejection now.  All the promises concerning this glorious kingdom over which God the Son, Jesus the Christ, would rule and reign, but Israel rejected it.  Then they hit the prime of their rejection when they did what?  Stoned Stephen.  Stephen was still appealing to the Nation to repent of having killed that promised Messiah.  But they would not.  So they stoned Stephen.  All right who were we introduced to at the stoning of Stephen?  Saul of Tarsus All right, now we get back to our timeline. After Christ has ascended and Israel’s rejection, now God is going to do exactly what Amos is referring to.  That after a period of time, which would include our Church Age and the Tribulation, the King and the Kingdom would still come in and bring back the glories of David and Solomon. But here’s what we have to realize.  God’s time clock stopped.  He sent Paul out into the Gentile world to call out a people for His name, which like I said, we call the Body of Christ.  All right, come back with me a minute to Acts chapter 15 again, now verse 15. Acts 15:15 “And to this (James says) agree the words of the prophets; as it is written,” But you see, they didn’t have a clue what Amos was talking about.  They didn’t have a clue that after 1,900 years of being scattered into all the nations of the world, they would come back and reappear as a Nation and yet have the promised Kingdom become a reality.  They didn’t know that. In fact, how many times have I done this before, and I’m going to do it again.  Keep your hand in Acts 15.  Go to I Peter, because I think this is so interesting that now, after the fact, Peter can write just exactly what I’m saying.  They couldn’t put it together.  Oh, it was back there, but in such veiled language they didn’t understand.  And they weren’t supposed to.  All right, back in I Peter chapter 1, I usually like to start at verse 9.  Now remember, Peter, too, is addressing fellow Jews.  He says that up in verse 1. I Peter 1:1a “Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the strangers scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia…” Well, Gentiles weren’t strangers in their own land, but Jews were.

   So, this is who Peter’s writing to. He’s writing to Jews of his own day and who were fellow believers that Jesus was the Christ.  All right, now verse 9. I Peter 1:9a “Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls.  10. Of which salvation the prophets (the Old Testament prophets) have inquired…”  They were just constantly questioning – what about this?  How is this going to happen?  What is it?  You can just about cook up as many questions as I can. I Peter 1:9b “…have inquired and searched diligently, (What were they searching?  The Scriptures!  The Old Testament Scriptures.  Trying to put it all together.  And they couldn’t. They weren’t supposed to.) who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you:” Well, when would it come for the Jew?  When their Messiah would return, see? But the Old Testament Prophets didn’t speak of it as a second coming.  They just spoke of it in veiled language that He would come and suffer and die.  But on the other hand, there were prophecies that He would rule and reign.  I’ve covered this before on the program.  My, they questioned--how is this going to happen?  Are we going to have two Messiahs?  Will one suffer?  Are we going to have a second Messiah that will rule and reign?  They certainly couldn’t put together that the same One would be both!  All right, that’s what Peter is talking about.   All right, reading on in verse 11. I Peter 1:11 “Searching (the Scriptures) what, or what manner of time the Spirit (the Holy Spirit) of Christ who was in them (the writers of the Old Testament) did signify, when it (or He) testified beforehand (Now here they are, the two aspects of the Messiah.) the sufferings of Christ, (the Messiah) and the (What?) glory that should follow.”  Now, can you see their dilemma?  Here we’ve got to have a Messiah who suffers.  But we have to have a Messiah that’s going to rule and reign.  How is He going to do that unless we have two?  They could not put it together that it would be one and the same.  That’s why the normal rank and file Jew of today, is he looking for the Messiah the second time?  No.  The what?  The first!  They can’t reconcile the fact that the Messiah that suffered is the Messiah that’s going to rule and reign.  That has been a dilemma for the Jew down through the centuries.     All right, I think that’s sufficient there. Back to Acts then a minute.  Now James and Peter and John, after the fact of the suffering, have now seen Him ascend back to Glory.  Now they’re beginning to get the picture that this same Messiah who suffered would return and be the Messiah who would rule and reign.  But, now here’s my question.  Did they have any idea it would be 1,900 and some years?  No way!  So Peter and James and John and Jude and Revelation all speak in language as though it would be in their lifetime.  They had no idea it would be such a long extended period.  But yet, you see, Hosea is talking in the same language that the Nation would be out there for a long time.  Until the “bones were white with age.”  And then they’d come back.  All right, verse 15: Acts 15:15 “And to this agree the words of the prophets; as it is written,” Now they can put it together.  This is what Amos was talking about. After the calling out of a people for His name up in verse 14, after that long period of dispersion, they would be back in the land, but they would still have to wait for the out-calling of that Body of Christ, the Gentiles. Acts 15:16 “After this I will return, and will build again the tabernacle of David, which is fallen down; and I will build again the ruins thereof, and I will set it up:” Now, get the “after.”  After what?  The calling out of the Gentile Body.  That’s why I maintain it has to be a pre-tribulation rapture, because God is not going to be dealing with the Gentile Body and the Nation of Israel.  No, He’s going to be dealing with the earthly people, the Nation of Israel, first in the horrors of the Tribulation and then in the glory of the Kingdom.

  But it won’t happen until the church is complete and is taken out of the way. All right, now I’ve got a few minutes left, yet?  Well, let’s go to verse 17.  Let’s not skip that.  Let’s stay here a minute.  After the calling out of the Body of Christ, “he would raise up again the tabernacle of David, which has fallen down;”  That’s why we read it in Amos before we came to Acts.  “And I (God says) will set it up.”  Set what up?  The Kingdom of David.  Now verse 17. Acts 15:17 -18 “That the residue of men might seek after the Lord, and all the Gentiles, upon whom my name is called, saith the Lord, who doeth all these things. 18. Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the world.” Well, He certainly worked only with the Nation of Israel, but I had one writer say, “He must have been a racist!”  No, He’s not a racist!!  What a stupid comment.  But see, that’s the mentality of the world.  Just because He dealt with Jew only.  I guess they were commenting on that verse in Matthew 10:5-6 where the Lord told the Twelve, “Go not into the way of a Gentile or house of a Samaritan, but go only to the lost sheep of the House of Israel.” That is when he wrote and said, “He must be a racist.”  No!  I’m going to write back.  The letter is still on my desk.  I’m going to write back that Christ was on Covenant ground!  He could not condescend to Gentiles until the covenant promises were fulfilled.  But He’s going to set those covenant promises aside for 1,900 years and turn to the Gentiles without Israel. Is He being racist by now setting Israel aside?  No!  It’s in His Sovereign design.  All right, now let’s go to Romans chapter 11. We have the same concept in different language.  It’s the same thing.  That after God has called out the Body of Christ, He’s going to return and deal with His covenant people. Romans chapter 11 verse 25 and then there are people, famous people, highly esteemed people, who say that there’s nothing to do with Israel anymore. They say that the people who call themselves Jews aren’t Jews at all.  How ridiculous can people get?  But here’s another verse that shows that God is not through with Israel.  Romans 11 verse 25. In fact, the whole chapter 11 is dealing with God coming back and dealing with Israel. Romans 11:25a “I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, (Or secret or something that no one previous to Paul understood.  And what is it?) lest ye should be  wise in your own conceits; (In other words, puffed up with your own ignorant knowledge.  And here it is.) that blindness in part (Not forever, but for a period of time. And I suppose even Paul, after the Holy Spirit inspired him to write that, was thinking in terms of 10 or 15 years, instead of 1,900 and some.  But nevertheless, here we are, and it still holds.) that blindness in part (for a period of time) is happened to Israel,…” It is a spiritual blindness that the Jewish people, as a multitude, cannot understand.  So they’re spiritually blind.  Oh, we get a few.  I’ve got a fair amount of Jews in my audience, and they’re interesting.  I could sit here for another hour and tell you about some of them, but whatever.  Here we have it that the rank and file of Israel are spiritually blind to this Age of Grace. Romans 11:25b “…that blindness (Sovereignly) in part is happened to Israel, (Then what’s the next word?) until (At some point in time that blindness is going to end, and God is going to be able to deal once again with His covenant people. When will that be?) until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in.”  All right, now you compare that with what we just read in Acts 15.  When will the fullness of the Gentiles come about?  When the Body of Christ is complete.  When the last person, I feel, has been saved and has become a member of the Body of Christ, we are out of here!  And God picks up where he left off with Israel. Now, I can’t understand why that’s so hard for people to see.  I had one lady that saw it in just 15 minutes of a phone conversation.

  And she said, “Les, it’s all so logical!”  Yeah, that’s exactly what it is.  It’s so logical.  God has set Israel aside for 1,900 and some years.  He has fulfilled the prophecy of bringing them back, and He is filling up the Body of Christ.  And one of these days it’s going to be full.  The trumpet will sound.  We’re out of here, and God will start dealing with Israel. Oh, it’s going to be horrible for seven years.  But He's still dealing primarily with Israel. As a result of all of their chastisement and the wrath and vexation of God, here comes the Kingdom.  And for the Jews who have survived and are believers, they’ll go into that Kingdom. They’re going to enjoy all the promises of God that have been spoken for the last 4,000 years.  It’s just going to come rolling in on the Nation like a flood.  As the Old Testament puts it, “They’re going to blossom like a rose in the desert.” So, don’t ever give up on the Nation of Israel.

[earhartsease]

tw blistering antisemitism quoted

TIL Martin Luther was, amongst many other things, a raging antisemite who wrote a 65k word tract whose title translates as "on the jews and their lies" and who called for their persecution. What fun /s - to quote the wiki article (don't read this unless you're feeling robust):

In the treatise, he argues that Jewish synagogues and schools be set on fire, their prayer books destroyed, rabbis forbidden to preach, homes burned, and property and money confiscated. Luther claimed they should be shown no mercy or kindness, afforded no legal protection, and "these poisonous envenomed worms" should be drafted into forced labor or expelled for all time. He also seems to advocate their murder, writing "[W]e are at fault in not slaying them".

christianity is the gift that keeps on giving - where "Gift" is the German for "poison"

[biggest-gaudiest-patronuses]

you know how wealthy conservatives tend to proactively accuse other groups of the very sins they themselves are responsible for? shifting the blame before anyone’s even accused them?

and you know how they love to perpetuate that conspiracy theory of a small group of super-elites controlling the globe & media & brainwashing humanity with propaganda? but in their version the people responsible are jewish? aka another minority they love to blame things on?

so what if

[jennyboom21]

The Mandalorian star Gina Carano, who plays former Rebel Alliance soldier Cara Dune, has drawn ire on social media for comparing being a Republican in the United States to being a European Jew during the time of the Holocaust.

On her Instagram story, Carano shared a post from another social media account detailing how strong fascist influence in Europe made it easier for Nazis to persecute Jews by first making even non-Nazis hate them, leaving the Jewish population with few people to turn to. The post ends by positing, "How is that any different from hating someone for their political views?" Notably, Carano herself is an outspoken conservative.

In the time since she shared the post, #FireGinaCarano has started trending on Twitter, with thousands calling for Disney and Lucasfilm to remove her from The Mandalorian.Gina Carano is saying that being a Republican today is equal to being a Jew during the Holocaust.

The level of cognitive dissonance is appalling. #FireGinaCaranoToday would be a good day to #FireGinaCarano @starwars https://t.co/To2porLu1b

This is absolutely fucking disgusting. @disney FIRE GINA!! #FireGinaCarano pic.twitter.com/FOSlwFw8DHIt's 

DESPICABLE that Gina Carano is comparing being a Republican to being a Jewish person during the Holocaust, and it's INFURIATING that she will see #FireGinaCarano as proving her point. That woman is a disease. And while it's far from the point... she cannot act.

Carano has sparked controversy in the past. Notable examples include what was perceived as a mockery of the transgender community by inserting "beep/bop/boop" in her Twitter bio in lieu of pronouns; discouraging mask-wearing amid the COVID-19 pandemic; suggesting the possibility of voter fraud during the 2020 Presidential Election. In fact, this isn't the first time #FireGinaCarano has trended on Twitter.

Created by Jon Favreau, The Mandalorian stars Pedro Pascal, Gina Carano, Carl Weathers and Giancarlo Esposito. Season 3 has yet to receive a premiere date.

[shalom-iamcominghome]

Personally, this is a huge fear of mine and it's a large reason I kept myself away from conversion. But I think my heart's pull toward this is so much stronger than the persecution I may face, I feel like this is a life only partially fulfilled. Persecution is a reality, and it may be a reality I may face, but that isn't all that is being Jewish, and that in particular is why I feel the need to convert

got a question (genuine) for converts. why would someone want to be jewish? why would you wish this life of persecution and hatred upon yourself? why not just stay safe from the terrors we are born into and cannot escape even if we do not practice or identify as such? i am a cultural jew and i am terrified all the time when i read the news about antisemitic attacks and see comments online on videos featuring jewish subjects. why join us? you are stronger than i will ever be, willingly joining a persecuted group of people because you believe in the community it provides. thank you.

[goy-bullshit-translator]

Ok, but Jews weren't the only ones killed in the holocaust!!!!

Translation: By claiming to be an ally of other marginalized groups I get to discard all suffering of Jewish people and ignore the one of many Jewish persecutions that actually gets any attention. I’m just sticking up for others! No, it doesn’t matter that your entire culture was destroyed and generational suffering is still affecting people today! No, I’m just sticking up for the poor gay and disabled people, even though the Holocaust has never been a defining moment in their histories. Yeah, Jews don’t really get a claim to that event cause like…. righteous gentiles died too!!

[jyndor]

Regards Luthen, what do u think of the possibility that he's not a jedi himself, but someone close to him was one and was executed during order 66???

tw for nazism, holocaust mention, antisemitism, genocide, etc

if they go the involving jedi in ANY way route which I doubt, I feel like luthen would be the one. there's too many things he says that make me go hmm. and too much emphasis on who is this guy for me to think whatever the reveal is would be about someone he knows.

let me say that i do not think they will go this way because i don't think it's the point of the show (which is about the actions of extraordinary ordinary people) and i'd probably prefer he not be a jedi. but i'm not opposed to it because it is star wars and because this show is touching on the many different ways that the empire has oppressed people throughout the galaxy.

the genocide of the jedi was the beginning of the empire. religious persecution is a big part of fascism - I mean who are the most well-known fascists to most us americans (the target audience lbr)? the nazis. there's a reason why a lot of the empire's iconography is based in part on leni riefenstahl's nazi propaganda - because in the 70s/80s, this was a villain that many people could automatically understand, on the color scheme alone. on the stormtroopers alone. it stands to reason that the persecution and genocide of the jedi is inspired by religious persecution in general but especially antisemitism and the genocide of jewish people during the holocaust. it's definitely not a 1:1 allusion, none of it is, but still.

granted the empire is based on much more than nazi germany, in fact mostly on the us empire (which is why the rebels are styled like the viet cong) and the british empire, but undoubtedly lucas took a lot of inspiration for the empire from the nazis.

if a show that is dealing with how the empire has brutalized and oppressed and committed genocide doesn't deal with the most infamous genocide in the franchise, I'd be a little surprised. and the way to handle that would imo not be to have someone who wasn't part of that culture be the person whose story is where we see its impact. it's gotta be someone who lost their culture, their kin, their practices, etc.

there's too much in that monologue -

i've given up all chance at inner peace, i've made my mind a sunless place (blocked myself from the force)

i share my dreams with ghosts (because the jedi are gone)

i'm damned for what i do (he lives with knowing that he has gone against his beliefs and ethos)

my anger/ego/unwillingness to yield/eagerness to fight (all dark-side references)

they've set me on a path from which there is no escape (I MEAN??? yoda literally says 'fear is the path to the dark side' and also palps mentions the dark side being a pathway, too)

using my enemy's tools against them (embracing the dark side of the force)

the things he won't have: sunrise and the light of gratitude (light side-y things)

- for it to be anyone else.

that said, i do kind of think it's a red herring.

but then luthen wouldn't be the first former jedi who helps the rebellion. he would however be unique in that he seems to be a fallen jedi, if he is one at all. while there can't be "grey" jedi, it would be interesting to see what a former jedi who has chosen not a path of evil but a path that uses evil to do good, what that would look like. i imagine it would look like luthen.

also there's this guy

[queerautism]

For the censorship theme, I wanna talk about the film Anders als die Andern (Different from the Others), released in Germany in 1919. TW suicide, holocaust mention, antisemitism mention, homophobia, nazi mention

It was the first movie to address the social and legal difficulties faced by homosexuals (and portrayed this as a bad thing). It's about a violinist, Paul Körner, who falls in love with his male student. He is eventually blackmailed for this and, although the blackmailer gets jailed, the violinist also gets a nominal sentence for it and loses his musical career because of it, leading him to commit suicide. It was essentially a condemnation of Paragraph 175 (the law that criminalised homosexuality in Germany, the same one the Nazis used to put gay men in concentration camps and that wasn't repealed until 1994), saying that homosexuality wasn't a crime or even an illness, just a different way of being, and that rather than prevent the "crime" of homosexuality, it in fact encouraged the crime of extortion/blackmail. As you might expect, Magnus Hirschfeld was heavily involved and even has a cameo in the film, as a doctor explaining homosexuality and the injustice of the law to the audience. Below are some screenshots:

(full film linked above, I seem to remember seeing at some point that it's technically not the *full* film since it was obviously censored/destroyed during the Nazi period so it's possible that some of the original scenes have been cut. But the above video has most of it I guess? With title cards in English, since it's a silent movie. Also subtitles in Russian for some reason)

The film was a box office success when it premiered but was quickly overshadowed by organised protests by conservative Catholic and Protestant as well as right-wing anti-Semitic groups. Even though the Weimar Republic (the German governmental system from 1918-1933) was relatively progressive and permissive when it came to homosexuality (hence Hirschfeld’s Sexological Institute being allowed to exist, hence the thriving queer culture in the form of bars, clubs, magazines in Berlin and elsewhere in Germany), eventually the film was banned from public screening because it apparently "only showed one side of the debate about paragraph 175" and "might confuse underage viewers about the phenomenon of homosexuality and be used as a recruitment tool" 🙄 From then on it could only be shown at Hirschfeld’s institute for educational purposes and special events.

However, despite facing the scrutiny of the censors, during the Weimar era there were a remarkable number of films released with queer/homosexual themes, even more about crossdressing. According to Robert Beachy in Gay Berlin (where I got most of this information from): "the freedom in the 1920s to depict realistic homosexual or lesbian characters, and their relationships, was all but unique to Germany."

I find this era and the art from this era so interesting because it was a time when there was relative freedom to express and explore queer sexuality, there was a concerted scientific and political movement to decriminalise (and to a certain extent depathologise) homosexuality but that still existed within the bounds of censorship and alongside the growing far right movement in Germany at the time. It's also important to note, I think, that persecution and protests of Hirschfeld and his research, while obviously stemming from queerphobia, also stemmed from antisemitism because Hirschfeld was Jewish.

If anyone wants to learn more about this era btw, I can't recommend Gay Berlin by Robert Beachy enough. It was the first book I read about queer culture/politics/science in this era and it got me interested enough in Weimar Berlin's queer history that I've now written two dissertations on the subject!