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Where Greed Goes, Despair Follows: Chp. 35
Y/N: Raven Sin of Despair
Pairing: Ban & Reader
Anime: Seven Deadly Sins
Genre: Adventure, romance
Warnings: None
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“Nice to meet you, Sir Gowther,” Elizabeth said, smiling at the pink-haired male. “I am Elizabeth, the third princess of Liones. Please, lend me your assistance in saving the kingdom from the Holy Knights.”
“No,” Gowther said.
““No”?!” Diane, Ban, King, and you screamed.
“You didn’t just meet me,” Gowther said. He walked up to Elizabeth, looking down at her. “We already met in Ordan. And also, you were acquainted with us as a child.”
Elizabeth’s eyes widened. “Eh?”
“Lucky, you got to see Gowther first,” you said, crossing your arms across your chest. Ban had you sleep while he, King, and Meliodas went to go find Gowther. You were slightly bummed that you weren’t able to help, but you were glad that you were finally able to get some rest. You cackled when Ban told you his reactions to Gowther’s unexpected appearance.
“Now that you mention it, she was always around the king,” Ban said, scratching the back of his head. “A little wisp of a kid.” You stifled a laugh as you lightly swatted Ban’s arm.
“I don’t remember that,” Diane said, laughing nervously.
King floated next to Gowther. “Addressing Her Highness like that - a bit rude, maybe?”
“I stand corrected - princess,” Gowther said.
“Um... Then... Have I met Sir Meliodas before, too, by any chance?” Elizabeth asked, a faint blush on her cheeks.
“Well, yeah,” Meliodas said, walking towards you.
“Sir Meliodas,” Elizabeth exclaimed.
“So anyway, Gowther,” Meliodas said. “What’s your answer?”
“I’ll agree to it,” Gowther replied. “It was the king who named me to the Seven Deadly Sins. If it’s a request from his daughter, I have no reason to decline. Also, knowing Y/N, she would probably be very disappointed if I did not go, so that’s another reason why I will stay.”
“Yay,” you said, wrapping your arms around Gowther’s waist, to which he responded by lightly patting your head.
“All right,” Meliodas said, smiling cheekily. “Now that there are six of us here, how about we drink to celebrate?”
Ban turned to Meliodas, a child-like grin on his face. “All right,” he yelled, throwing his arms up like an excited child, making you cackle.
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"Cheers," Diane said, lifting her barrel of alcohol up.
"Ch-Cheers," King said, blushing slightly.
"I'm not gonna lose to you, Captain," Ban exclaimed, already sounding drunk.
"You're so gonna eat those words," Meliodas said, grinning at him.
You laughed at them, a smile on your face. "Ban! If you get wasted, I'm the one who has to pay the consequences, dammit!" The three of you laughed at your statement, Ban slamming his hand on the table.
Elizabeth gave Gowther a place of food. Suddenly, Gowther heard loud munching noises behind him. "Detecting bizarreness," Gowther said, turning around. He tilted his head as he saw Hawk eating away at his bowl of scraps.
"Hey, Gowther," Hawk said, mouth full of scraps. "I'm Sir Hawk, Captain of the Scraps Disposal! Hey, if you have any questions, feel free to ask me anything!"
Gowther stared at Hawk. "Why would a pig be speaking in the human tongue?" Gowther asked.
"No idea," Hawk said.
Gowther tilted his head. "Why are you eating scraps?"
"'Cause they're tasty," Hawk exclaimed.
"That's all," Gowther said, turning to look at his food.
"That's it already?!" Hawk said. "Isn't there anything else you wanna ask me?"
Gowther stared at the scene in front of him: Diane and Elizabeth laughing as King gazed fondly at Diane, Ban poking fun at you while you were yelling at him for drinking too much.
"'I'm so moved. I never thought I'd be reunited with the others.'" Meliodas threw his arm around Gowther's shoulders. "Isn't that about what you were thinking?" He said, smiling.
"None of us is from the same species," Gowther stated, looking at all of you.
"That's it?" Meliodas asked.
"It is," Gowther replied.
Meliodas laughed. "Now that you mention it, I guess you're right." The blonde smiled as he watched Diane and King laughed together, faint blushes on their cheeks, while you and Ban bickered, Ban's cheeks flushed from alcohol and yours from Ban's constant remarks and teasing. Meliodas looked and smiled as Elizabeth sat with Hawk contentedly, Hawk eating away at his scraps.
It feels good to be surrounded by friends.
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It's a bit of a filler rip. I'm pretty busy so updates have obviously been less common, but I have no intention of giving up on this story!! I really enjoy this story and I'm glad that so many other people enjoy it as well. (I'm also a huge simp for this man LMAOOOO 😭) Love u all!! ❤️
Edit: JFC I NEVER REALIZED HOW LONG THE TAGLIST IS WTF LMAO
Also the users that are not gray, please check your settings on tumblr if they allow you to be tagged in posts? It doesn't seem to find your username when I try to @ you. Thank you!!
#ban x reader#ban#sds ban#ban fox sin of greed#sds#sds x reader#seven deadly sins#seven deadly sins x reader#nanatsu no taizai#meliodas#elizabeth liones#sds diane#sds king#sds gowther#hawk captain of the scraps disposal
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I know we’re trying to avoid drama and such, but jfc have u seen that kel/os’ crew fucking doxxed occam/shipper on twitter, is deadnaming them repeatedly and deliberately and threatening occam’s kids as well as holding “releasing their surname” as “leverage”? All while revealing they’ve been stalking, harassing, and planning to isolate and doxx occam for months (if not years)? Apparently the final straw for them was occam saying j*red shouldn’t b made 2 spontaneous dehydrate to look hot 4 w*lker
I haven’t seen anything on twitter because I am not spending my time there plus I am not really sure I follow Occam there (I don’t know her twiiter @ ;_;) but this ask made me scroll through Occam’s blog (once again) and you know what this whole things sucks I feel bad for Min. He is getting so much shit he doesn’t deserve. And honestly I can only imagine how hard it is for him and what is going on in his inbox and twitter when he does what he does (being a very active fandom member) when I (being, basically a no one) get hate daily. I even got asked to post my pic at work to prove I am not unemployed lmao wtf.
And then there was this whole thing where he was accused of being a fucking cult leader which is... INSANE. I mean I don’t know him personally but he seems like a cool person with a lot of knowledge. AND YOU KNOW WHAT THAT JARED PICS that apparently made tumblr crush yesterday? I had Hugh Jackman from Wolverine or Les Mis deja vu and that post that explained that he had to dehydrate for 2 or more days to get those muscles really visible. Yeah. This whole thing sucks on so many levels....
(I am calling Min a ‘she’ because she said ‘any pronouns are ok’ and when i hear Minerva it just fits a ‘she’ pronoun in my mind asfsdgjkdfh I hope I am not making a mistake here if I am please do correct me asap I was called out and changed the pronouns thank u anon who did that)
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late liveblog b/c i took the time to listen to the first ep over again :P
hey travis? hey- hey travis??? three in the morning travis?????
for real tho i am extremely excited for the new ep, and finally found some time to listen to it!!! this time i won’t have to avoid tumblr for like a week lmao
i can hear the excitement in travis's voice to do the "previously on the adventure zone" message and it fills my heart with happiness
god this music is just so good
how the fuck is that right??? i've played a rouge before and she in no way had a +8 to stealth
let him have this justin
the spectral cat from last ep!
i love argo so much holy shit
that is indeed very upsetting
awww, poor bud :(
oh baby, oh fitzroy my dipshit baby
"it isssss... cat" i love him so much
... argo has never seen a cat before??? poor baby
is he legit afraid of the cat
the voice is already slipping lmao
oh that's adorable! campus kitties :D
that's not a real thing fitzroy
so like a campus card, fun! i had the same thing at tcc lol
i think so? if i remember correctly from the past ep it's shared
"gary doesn't have time for love" :'(
he saw that one post i'm dying
it sounds like trav asked them beforehand, that's a neat way to plan for interactions before they happen and i like it
the dread pirate mary berry
"crush the beef" what does that mean fitzroy
what is this voice clint, you did not have this voice last ep, you've gone from vaguely ned to vaguely merle's fake scottish accent
"this turns to ash in my mouth" i love this
thank you griffin for this in character backstory opportunity
"to be by his side... kickin'" sounds to me like everyone's argo revenge plot theories might be correct
yummy! :D
mind chefs
fitzroy my sweet dipshit
he's a sweet sweets boy c:
"he's a failure" yes and i adore him
... god this class is just me all over
riveau, cool, thank you for the spelling notes
oh dang, that's a cool mechanic, i can see this wielding some potential narrative heaviness later on
i'd say about... a minute is good
i am so nervous for argo holy shit
argo's laying it on thick enough that i genuinely cannot tell whether or not clint got a good or bad roll
that was indeed a seventeen! go clint
... argo :(((
i legit cannot tell if this is argo bluffing the prof or if this is just clint being clint b/c merle and ned both pulled the "so am i getting paid now?" bit multiple times
i trust justin to not make this audio poision
owl professor :D
the dramatic music travis holy shit
so basically the middle ages lmao
"the golden age of accounting" t r a v i s
i can hear justin nearly combusting in the bg trying not to laugh and i am right there with him, this is such good world building but holy shit travis
basically reaffirming from last ep that the entire premise of this arc is the entertainment industry in a post scarcity economy, cool cool
oh my god this is such a mood
i adore bud so much
"sweet bird in heaven" pfff
so this prof is basically capitalism personified... thanks, i hate him
bud is 18 y/o me in my required "intro to college skills" class r/n
i am dying inside, this is so close to my own high school and college experiences, i feel like screaming on bud's behalf
I'M HAVING AP CALC FLASHBACKS TRAVIS, PLEASE LET IT E N D
"and you know what? i believe in you" i don't believe in me right now trav, i'm a 22 y/o adult and i have no idea what most of these words mean
oh god i just got the mental picture of all the other people in this class watching this exchange and it brought new levels of hilarity and abject horror to the situation, jfc i am d y i n g
this owl really is a personification of capitalism, huh? grasping at straws and concocting elaborate fantasy scenarios, desperate to prove that his system works even though it necessitates loss and goes against humanity’s inherently cooperative nature
travis this has gone on for like 15 minutes real time, f r e e m e
"why did the mind make acorn?" i have never related to a taz pc more than i have in this moment, holy shit justin
sign! me! the! fuck! up!
yes i did trav!!! i loved it and i'm loving this! i am so proud of you!!!!!
aww, poor dude :(
fun! this sounds like a really interesting idea
fitzroy continuing to be salty about his name lol
i want to see the skeletons do the charleston so bad, but more then anything i want rainier to be my girlfriend
poor argo lmao
awww, fun!
f u r b y
nice! :D
JESUS ARGO
nice rolls all around!
go bud!!! ^u^
i don't see how that would help argo???
i'm liking a lot of the skills travis is adding
yes! block for my gf mapleboy!!!
"im feeling dastardly" fitzroy baby, you're allowed to use magic, what you’re doing isn't cheating you absolute dummy
WAIT WHAT
this is badass holy shit, i love these teachers
jesus fitzroy my dude
funky twenty! nice
natural twenty! even nicer
aww, sweet sacrifice boy
fitzroy nearly killed him holy shit
festo???
oh fun! that sounds adorable!
oh god, nm, this character is so weird
jesus christ i am so creeped out
oh my god fitzroy what the fuck, you turned a woman into a fish
aww baby :(((
i am fucking depressed now holy shit
okay, i like festo now
that was a cute lil noise
awww!!! magic pet, i am so excited to see what fitz is going to pick
lil crab buddy :D
poor fitzroy holy shit
oh it's the rouge professor!
i do not like the creepy whisper voice travis, this is legit creeping me out
i am so fucking worried for argo
who is mariah??? oooh i am so intrigued
rain and stone... this is so interesting holy shit
awwwww!!!!!
"this is nothing" pfff
my sweet boys :')
i! am! so! freaking! pumped!!!
this was another really great episode! i know we’re still in set-up territory as far as how the plot is progressing but i’m already so intrigued in the world trav has made. there’s already so much mystery and foreshadowing going on, both in regard to the world and the character’s motivations and i am here for it!
i’m actually typing this around 5:30 am and queuing it for later so it doesn’t get buried in the tag, but i cannot wait to see all the art of this ep, especially of snippy lol. see you guys next right thursday~! ^u^
#taz#the adventure zone#taz spoilers#taz graduation#ghosty liveblogs taz#i'm gonna try my damnedest not to be late next time but it couldn't be helped
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?? okay now when i actually do press post it doesnt post tumblr tf you doin
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Hey what’s crackin’?
Rules
1. Don’t expect fancy text or art for replies or asks.I’m kinda lucky that I’ve been able to work on this character and his boys. Plus I can’t see half of the fancy text on my phone, rip. Speaking of I may be on my phone more often than not? Unsure.
2. The art featured on this blog were made by me, for me. Do not repost nor share anywhere else without my permission. Linking people directly to me is encouraged.
3. I do have a full time job as well as depression. Sometimes my attention won’t be here and for that I apologize.
4. Aicken is being played in a KH ttrpg my partner is hosting for me and some of my friends, which is where some of his canon and random posts may come from. However for the sake of roleplay, everything is flexible.
5. There MIGHT BE mature themes and the like. Preferably my followers be mature as well, 18+.
6. I’m dumb as fuck and my memory is a sieve. I can and will forget information about the series and i apologize for that. You are free to DM me about corrections in the story and the like.
7. Ships? All are welcome to try if you and your muse fond of Aicken. Multiship is fine here, and my man is pan and poly. I have no expectations and neither does he, however, so if you want it you gotta work for it.
8. If you need something tagged you can hit me up, but I’ll try to cover things as I go.
9. You can hit me up for anything, really. I’m quiet and tired and I’m just here to vibe, showoff my art, and hopefully let other people enjoy my characters.
10. I can rp on discord but chances are I’ll be much more unhinged there than on Tumblr. Sure I’m official and the like sometimes but I literally just word vomit on there for fun.
11. I’m open to any and all blogs, be them OC, Canon, Multiverse, Multifandom, aaaaand crossovers. I personally don’t have any AU’s in the works yet but they’re possible, for a sure.
12. Goes without saying that I won’t accept god modding or BS powers,especially when it comes to Aicken’s Unbound Heartless. They may be Heartless but if you wish to banish them or try to gain any sort of control over them, you need to talk to me first. When defeated they return to Aicken’s heart to rest, and I don’t have any plans for that plan to deviate without just cause. They are his and will stay in his command.
13. I’m not too horridly picky reply length but like. One word replies at MOST are for fuckin’s with. Fun and memes and tomfoolery. Constant and serious one word/ one short sentence replies drive me up a wall and I won’t be likely to keep up writing with you. You don’t need to write a novel,as I sure won’t, but? Bruh.
Please read Aicken's page to learn about him, and then Unbound to read about his type of Heartless. From there you can go check out the individual types listed.
Hopefully I'll have a pinned post for mobile users to access these in a different form.
Tumblr mobile really, really should add pages, jfc.
Mun
Okay so. I’m 30, She/Her, and you can call me Rijolt/ Rij or Bird.
I work as a game tester for Nintendo which is,in fact, a full time job staring at screens all day.I may go for long bouts of inactivity because I just perish as soon as I’m given the OK. Which is why, like… Don’t expect too much outta me. This is for a creative and fun outlet which I came in already expecting mixed results. Don’t take any inactivity or favoring one thing or another personally. If anything, kinda treat me like a cat. Me just existing next to you is hanging out and that’s pretty fucking sweet as is.I may even toss goodies in your ask box when my mind goes off the shits.
Aicken
If nothing else, this blog will be used as his journal for his experience and heartless studies as I play through his adventure in the ttrpg game. The Unbound pages are even written by him! I did plan on him making entries for normal Heartless but also I think I would die if I did so I refuse.
Thanks for reading <3
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{for @lthyl ♡ HAPPY BIRTHDAY SWEETIE!!! extremely sappy message below, read at your own risk}
Kim Taehyung as a paranormal investigator Park Jimin as a dark spirit
Kim Taehyung dedicates his entire life to the paranormal, even if he has never truly experienced it firsthand. Ever so drawn to the inexplicable, he finds himself obsessing over the tale of the boy with no eyes, which honors the life of a young pianist whose eyes were ripped out by his obsessive mother — for the sole reason of failing to play her favorite piece to perfection.
Legend says that the boy never stopped playing, not even as the blood dripped onto his skillful fingers while they continued to dance above the keys, helplessly striving for a perfection he never achieved. Legend also says that you can still hear the sweetness of his mother’s song within the walls of his forgotten home, high notes mixing with low ones in one beautiful, terrifying melody.
Kim Taehyung only expects to find a forsaken, abandoned house the day he visits the Park mansion, left to perish but strangely buzzing with an unsettling roar below the creaky wooden tiles.
But the moment he hears a voice accompanying the gentle keys of the piano, he realizes he might not see the light of day ever again.
My sweet, sweet love your eyes are mine, your lips are mine and your voice is mine My sweet, sweet love do you also come to see my blood shine?
HAPPY HAPPY BIRTHDAY @lthyl!! I really, REALLY wanted to write this as a proper story, but circumstances (ehem, university) forced me to change plans and I figured this was the next best thing I could do for you. And as the horror queen you are, I hope this summary / tiny drabble was up to your expectations. As I write this I’m lowkey terrified, because I just spent two hours skimming through creepy images DURING THE NIGHT (oh, the things I do for you ahaha) but it was definitely worth it to plan this out. I know it’s not much, and I know it could be a million times better, but I genuinely hope you like it.
besides this definitely-could-be-better moodboard, I just wanted to show how grateful I am for your friendship! I hope you know that all those times you helped me last year are still ingrained in my head and there is absolutely no way that I am ever going to forget each piece of advice you’ve given me ever since I made that embarrassing post on pjiminnie (woops) and you reached out to me for the first time through a handful of asks (I think there were five, to be specific ahaha).
I will never forget any of it - nor the times you helped me through tumblr messages as we got to know each other, nor the times I freaked out on you through whatsapp whenever life got too suffocating (for real - HOW DID YOU PUT UP WITH ME. I honestly remember those times with embarrassment, because at the moment I was so so vulnerable and all over the place, and even though it wasn’t really my fault, not many people seemed to understand that, but you tried. and the fact that you actually listened and cared and none of that ugliness didn’t put you off from me is just so unreal, I can’t thank you enough for that. I’m lowkey tearing up now HAHA but seriously, this may sound too dramatic, but you were a huge pillar during those times and I genuinely don’t know how I might have ended up had you not been there for me), nor the lovely feedback you’ve never failed to give me (I even have some screenshots of them!! they’re too precious). you’re too good to me, and I just want you to know that I will always hold that in my heart. even if we move on from tumblr one day and ‘grow up’ from this, all the talks we’ve had will always be an important part of my personal growth and my search for happiness.
and I need to correct that you are not just too good to me - you are too good in general, and I hope you treasure that trait forever, no matter how many times it bites you back. because only a handful of people amidst millions are just as caring, and if that is not absolutely priceless, then I don’t know what is.
*wipes tears* I HAVEN’T EVEN STARTED ON YOUR WRITING THOUGH. for me, a good writer is the one who manages to motivate others. someone that has a style that is solely theirs - someone whose story you can read and already know the author with just reading the first sentence. you’re someone who can do that, and you’ve always had that ability ever since you posted your first story here. I don’t think it’s something that can be taught - and even though I don’t really believe in talent (I’m more of hard work and consistency) writers like you make me wonder otherwise, if there’s something innate some people are just born with. maybe you know this already, but you really have that spark, and I hope you keep nurturing it beyond tumblr.
and I hope no one is ever capable of feeling like you’re less or that you don’t have that talent, that even if you go through a few downs (because slumps are inescapable, I totally get you there girl) you’ll always be able to go up, and that you’ll grow stronger than ever from it. thank you for making this fandom a little bit brighter, because thanks to your writing it is now a bit more refreshing, a bit more artistic and ingenious and every single synonym I can think of. :)))
and one last thing, THANK YOU for motivating me. I feel like I’ve made this letter too much about me (sorry), but I seriously needed to add that. whenever I feel like I’m losing my motivation to improve, all I have to do is look at your impressive growth and I immediately feel the need to keep up!! please take this as a good thing (as a GREAT thing) because I seriously respect you as a writer and I have a lot of admiration for the way you’ve built your own community here, where you’ve poured your huge improvement into your work for all of us readers to admire. please keep it up, keep surprising all of us, keep growing that uniqueness you and no one else owns and keep being so full of joy and passion ♡♡♡
ALL THAT SAPPINESS JFC… I’M SORRY. but I just felt like it was time I gave back a fraction of the countless amounts of of appreciation you’ve given to me. I hope you spend a fantastic day, because you deserve all that and more. love you! ^^
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On rewriting very recent events to suit an anti-survivor narrative
So I want to address courteousmingler’s claims that catandkitty and missvoltairine started talking about their abuse at an inappropriate time, specifically in her words that “what i don’t support is pretending that saying “no” to sex is ever capable of being abuse on its own. i especially do not support using your trauma story as a means of spreading this sentiment, in the chronological middle of a conversation about asexuals being pressured into sex aka raped. “
I’ve already addressed the fact that neither catandkitty or missvoltairine ever said that saying no to sex was inherently abusive on its own, and that the links courteousmingler provides as “evidence” that they did actually tell an entirely different story if you care to read them. This isn’t just a matter of interpretation. In the above linked post, courteousmingler links to a post where catandkitty corrects someone who states that she said saying no to sex is abusive on its own. The person asserting that catandkitty said this - without citations of his own - is acepilotlombardi. It’s strange that courteousmingler would use acepilotlombardi’s (debunked) accusation as evidence of catandkitty saying these things in her own words, given that acepilotlombardi had this to say about missvoltairine’s account of her own abuse:
Saying you can withhold sex from a person is like saying you can withhold pets from a dog. Look, if animal rights groups suddenly started saying that if you are ever not petting your dog, you’re abusing them, that would be absurd. This is basically the same situation.
Seems to contradict courteousmingler’s assertions that “no one” on the “inclusionist” side of this debacle has tried to shut down victims speaking about their own experiences, but that’s neither here nor there.
But let’s talk about the oft-repeated idea that catandkitty and missvoltairine entered into a simple discussion about rape and started talking about their abuse in ways that would imply that they thought rape was fine if the targets were asexual. Because that’s such a vast misrepresentation of what really happened as to basically be a lie.
The conversation in question was not, in fact, a single thread of conversation. It was a series of discussions that spanned several different threads and included multiple people on either “side” of “the discourse”. I spent a long time trying to figure out the chronology of the discussion, but tumblr’s format makes it nearly impossible, which already casts doubts on courteousmingler’s claim that catandkitty and missvoltairine’s accounts of their abuse came into play in the “chronological middle” of the discussion.
To kick things off, let’s have a look at this thread. It begins with lgbtkhaleesi saying:
it’s also shitty to deny your partner sex and shame them for even trying to communicate their feelings to you about it
This is obviously a complete statement - it’s shitty to do both of these things in tandem, because it creates a dynamic where one person can’t talk about something that is bothering them in the relationship. Not having sex with your partner is one thing; not having sex with your partner and making them feel ashamed and shutting down any attempts at having an honest discussion about the fact that you’re not having sex is another. The first is not abusive, the second is. However, throughout the resulting thread, people take the first part of this statement and repeat it over and over again without the added context of the second part of the statement. Then there’s this:
Why would you ever tell your sex repulsed partner that “it sucks you can’t have sex and that it hurts your self esteem”? Like what do you think would happen? It’s either
1. They still don’t have sex with you but now they feel guilty and insecure over something they can’t help.
or
2. They are guilted into having sex with you, which is rape by coercion.
This is a big part of what many people, including catandkitty and missvoltairine, took issue with - the idea that if a partner is shutting down discussions of sex in a way that makes you feel bad about yourself, simply attempting to address that verbally makes you a rapist because you’re “guilting” someone into having sex with you.
This theme was repeated not just in that thread, but elsewhere as well:
People were so hostile to the idea of a couple simply talking about having sexual needs that were incompatible that at some point some presented nonmonogamy as a natural solution to feeling sexually unsatisfied in your relationship:
Nonmonogamy is a relationship style that requires a LOT of communication and honesty - if you’re entering into a nonmonogamous relationship because you feel like you CAN’T communicate about sex with your partner, there’s something wrong; this isn’t a healthy basis for a nonmonogamous relationship, and saying that it “is a consensual option that doesn’t involve manipulating people” is pretty loaded.
I think it’s clear by now that at least parts of this discussion had taken a turn away from “it’s not cool to coerce your partner into sex” and into characterizing any kind of attempt at communication, specifically from a non-asexual person towards an asexual person, as rape or advocating rape. It was this trend that catandkitty and missvoltairine objected to. Catandkitty in particular, who is the one who’s been most villified for her participation in this discussion, never actually engaged in any of these discussion threads. Her commentary was confined solely to original posts on her own blog, where she reflects on what is being said in posts like this one:
sex and/or physical intimacy IS human need and you WILL need to be able to have a healthy conversation about it at some point in your adult life. telling people that expressing that need is inherently abusive is intensely harmful and i wish ace tumblr would stop it
This post has been spun as evidence that catandkitty is a rape apologist so many times that I couldn’t possibly link to them all, but you can see some of it in the notes on the post. But the fact is, catandkitty did not say this in response to any one specific person; it’s not a reblog, it’s an original post on her personal blog, a place where she has in the past posted other personal reflections on trends in tumblr discourse, that is an individual reaction to multiple people saying things like the statements I discussed above. It is NOT a response to a statement as simple as “don’t rape asexual people”, and frankly, would make no sense as such.
This discussion was an ugly one in which multiple rape and abuse survivors, including but not limited to catandkitty and missvoltairine, were told that their abuse wasn’t that bad or was irrelevant, were told to stop talking about their abuse, and were called rape apologists and, yes, even rapists. Here’s asexualnataliaromanova calling catandkitty an “abuser posing as a victim” and saying that it sounds like she raped her abusive ex:
First of all, you called them your abusive ex. Forgive me if the rest of us victims out here who went through shit (me included) aren’t too keen to assume you’re not the abuser when you can still swallow to call them your ex first instead of your rapist. That was red flag number 1.
Number 2, withholding sex is still a lovely way of saying that they didn’t consent. THEY AREN’T WITHHOLDING BC YOU DO NOT OWN OR HAVE A RIGHT TO THEIR BODY. Them having sex with you is not a right you have. Being in a relationship does not give you that right (see marital rape). The only thing that gives you that right is their informed, ENTHUSIASTIC consent. If they weren’t feeling it, tell me, you’d rather rape them than them continue to “Withhold sex”?
Here’s queergengar implying that missvoltairine’s abuser did not consent to sex with her:
How the fuck do you “withhold consensual sex” wtf?? If you don’t want to do it, it’s not consensual jfc. If you change your mind halfway through or right before or whenever and decide you don’t want to do the do anymore, /that means it’s no longer consensual!/
Here’s courteousmingler herself doing what she does best - asking leading questions that are loaded with innuendo and implication, so that she can effectively call an abuse survivor a rapist and then deny it because she never said it outright later:
anyone curious as to why catandkitty is so deeply obsessed with believing sex is a human need, after being told by multiple survivors that the rhetoric is used to get rapists off the hook?
like. why is clinging to rhetoric that silences rape victims something so deeply, deeply important to her? because she considers not having sex with her to be one of her abusers’ offences?
By now it should be clear that presenting this conflict as a simple case of innocent asexuals saying “please don’t rape us” and big mean rape apologists coming out of the woodwork to harass them about it is completely disingenuous and false. I really hope people take the time to read this post - I know it’s a lot, and there’s a lot of further evidence that I refrained from posting because I didn’t want to make this longer. But this is important, because a big part of courteousmingler and her friends - including wetwareproblem and vaspider, etc - smear campaign against these survivors relies on their radically dishonest reinterpretation of what actually happened.
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