#trans person. i've seen trans women also complaining about this and they are right to be upset for being excluded too.

[therevengeoffrankenstein]

i'm sorry but actually yes it is an issue that x reader fanfictions as a genre are primarily focused on straight (presenting) relationships with primarily cis female readers. the answer is not that the cis women writing these fics are bad or should stop, but just that they should consider branching out (and i'm not forcing them to! just a suggestion of diversifying their portfolios! which they don't have to do!)! and also that other non cis female writers should be being uplifted, too, in addition to all the straight cis female reader fics.

[ask-codeearasure]

So... About that shitty Cross take that one person made....

If you've been following certain creators, even this account, I'm sure you've spotted a specific idiot going around complaining about Cross being Trans-Coded and using Republican talking points to say that it's "forced" or "doesn't make sense" and whatever other bullshit that shouldn't even be looked at let alone acknowledged. HOWEVER, instead, we are gonna sit down and talk about how the Trans Experience is so versatile and why Cross (and similar characters) being Trans-Coded is actually extremely important.

Gender nonconformity is fucking terrifying to Republicans, this is why it's been one of this generation's favorite punching bags.

If you look at the women who are tied to the Republican Party, you see a lot of hyperfemininity, so much so it's easy to tell that Barbie is considering suing them for stealing all her plastic.

Jokes aside, gender affirming care is gender affirming care and they are using the same gender affirming care that trans people have been using for years. This isn't only about nail products and cosmetic surgery, but also breast reduction or implant surgeries.

Gender affirming care however, is demonized by the right because they don't get it nor do they acknowledge that there is a range to it.

I once read a story about how one person had realized they were trans because a friend of theirs pointed out that when they had the option of choosing the gender of their playable characters in gaming, they always went with the gender they were not assigned at a birth. Example being an AFAB person constantly choosing male characters.

Though I have not finished watching Underverse this is applicable of XFrisk and XChara shoving the name "Cross" onto... Cross. They are pointing out he is not Sans despite being assigned that name since creation. Their true intentions here had cruelty in mind, but Cross made the name his own.

He is in denial about it which is applicable to how a LOT of trans people are in denial about it sometimes. Hell I remember a Right Wing talking head on Twitter who had tried to transition, detransistioned due to pressure from their family and then stayed at their assigned gender because of it and falling for the Republican propaganda.

Denial isn't just a river. It never has been.

Some people are in denial about their gender identities and sexual orientation and with the coming presidency we are going to see a rampant uptick in that statistic. With that coming, characters like Cross are needed far more.

Cross's story, as far as I've seen, is rough and follows a lot of self-acceptance and self-advocating storylines. Even when it comes to the biggest things that anyone from the LGBTQIA+ has to face, one of these struggles being the fear of rejection and/or being rejected by one's peers.

From what I've seen when it comes to spoilers is that Cross does end up being rejected by those he was close to before meeting Ink, and thus has to come full circle and accept himself by saying "I am Cross". He has to deny the name he went by in the past. He has to because if he doesn't, he'd be giving in to living in denial of who he truly is and thus be living a life of suffering for no reason than to keep others comfortable, setting himself on fire to keep people who couldn't give a damn about him warm.

A lot of Trans people have to show their rejection of their past or even the acceptance of that past to come to terms with themselves. Each person is different when it comes down to finding who they are and accepting that. It depends on the individual.

Some treat their past and their deadname as though they're a completely different person or someone who died so they could live. Think of a phoenix rising from the ashes.

Others treat it like their past self was the caterpillar where their new and true self is the butterfly.

Is it perfect?

No.

Is Jakei a perfect writer?

No. Neither are a lot of my favorite writers and franchises (I'm looking at you Riot Games and your shitty centrist takes on the worst of human history's sins).

But some of the things that imperfect writers make are beautiful and Cross is one of them. He is one of the few characters that speaks for the writer when it comes to saying "I see you, I see your pain. I see your suffering. You are not alone. You deserve to live your life the way you want to. You are valid."

But there are a few questions that the more clueless of people are going to ask.

Why bring Politics into this? And why do Republicans like the media made by progressives?

The answers are FASCINATING.

I bring Politics into this because Republicans, specifically Cishet white people, have made everything political since the beginning of time. Everything they don't like, everything different from them, everything they don't understand, and everything that directly rebels against their patriarchal idea of "paradise" is now considered "Political".

I remember a Republican had argued the dumbest thing once, and I was so dumbfounded I had to take a step back because holy shit.

Their argument was that black people enslaved each other which made their enslavement by white people their own fault.

Now if your jaw is on the floor, you already know where the problem is. If you don't get where the problem, is let me ask you something.

If that is the case, who was the one who made it all about skin color?

I'll tell you.

It was the white people (who were Democrats before the massive party switch, which makes them modern day Republicans).

Who were the ones who made having jobs all about gender? It was the Cishet white men (99% of whom are Republicans).

Who constantly demonized the LGBTQIA+ community during the Stonewall Riots? Mostly Cishet White Republicans.

Who are demonizing Trans people right the fuck now? Republicans and Pick-Me Gay people who vote for Republicans and side with Republicans thinking that the Republicans will finally accept them when they know Republicans won't fucking do it.

Being LGBTQIA+, making non-white characters, making a character a woman, it makes that character "Political", and "Political" characters are always the ones put on the spot for accusations of "forced diversity" and "perversion" where anyone with a working sense of conscience will understand this is a talking point butthurt Republicans or those warped by Republicans pulled out of their assholes looking for a problem where there isn't one.

All art, be it animation, digital art, traditional art, singing, writing, is political. They've always been political.

Do you want to know why Republicans are always bitching about coffee orders? It's because the Enlightenment era thus leading to the Romantic Era of literature was started because of coffee shops it was where all the best writers hung out. The moment they met each other and started talking to each other, the Enlightenment and Romantic Eras started taking off in full force.

It is because of the Enlightenment and Romantic Era writers we don't have Child Labor anymore. A lot of their writing brought talks of nature and the horrors of Child Labor into question. You can't talk about the history of Child Labor without talking about William Blake's Chimney Sweeper and Elizabeth Barrett Browning's Cry of the Children. You fucking can't. Without Blake and Browning we'd still have children in mines and on rooftops risking their lives to clean your fucking chimney.

And here is where we get to the why. Why Republicans LOVE progressive media.

Here is a little secret.

All shows and media made by Republicans are shit because it is all Propaganda.

I know. Shocker.

Look around.

Mr. Birchum, New Norm, Leo and Layla, it's all propaganda. It's all the same Republican talking points that they never shut up about and even then they don't know what they're talking about.

Ask a Republican what "intersex" means. Do it, I dare you.

They won't fucking know but they'll tell you that it's Satanic and shouldn't be allowed near children.

They'd never guess that it's a spectrum of natural gender nonconformity and mixed sexual/hormonal characteristics such as having PCOS or being AMAB and still having a functioning uterus. They don't care that their delusions about there only being "male" and "female" for reproductive sex options has led to medical malpractice, social abuse, murder, and erasure of intersex individuals, and the ones that do know about intersexuality diagnose it as a "Differential Sexual Development Disorder" as if just being born intersex makes someone's existence inherently wrong with an inherent need for surgical and hormonal "correcting".

Republicans like progressive media because it knows how to say something and still be well written. This is why Republicans LOVE Star Trek, Star Wars, My Little Pony Friendship is Magic, and Arcane.

It's all progressive media but it all knows how to build a world and say something. Good writers are progressive and know how to write.

Don't get me wrong there is a LOT of fucking garbage that tries to be progressive but that is a small outlier that Republicans LOVE to bring out and bash on to say that we're the ones who ruin media. They make false equivalences to try to make you stop thinking. They need stop-thinking clichés and talking points because it's all they have. But they are so fucking terrified of anything different from what is in their stupid bubble that saying "Oh yeah the champion Taliya is trans" will send them screaming and crying.

Yeah, Riot Games danced around the fact that one of their characters is Trans because they knew she'd scare off the entirety of the Republican player base. They had to hide it and use her magical girl skin to gently hint at it with "Yeah when I'm in this outfit I feel more like myself!" and the entire multi hour long Star Guardian album animation having the Trans Flag being the main pallet on everything.

I honestly wonder how many Republicans ran off when they saw THAT CaitVi scene in Arcane.

Republicans just hate anything that isn't Cis, isn't Hetero, isn't a man, and isn't white. This is why it's not uncommon to find that cishet white men are always found at Klan rallies or the modern Klan rallies which are called "Trump Rallies" these days.

This is why a lot of exhausted Democrats, Liberals, and BIPOC, Feminists, and LGBTQIA+ people have been laughing their asses off at the Pick-Mes who are getting fucked over now that they realize that surprise surprise, Project 2025 was the plan! We fucking told you so, dipshit!

This is what you asked for dumbass! We tried to warn you. You didn't listen. LESSON FUCKIN LEARNT!

Republicans like progressive shit because we make good media.

Republicans HATE anything that isn't CISHET and WHITE.

Now, am I saying all this to claim the person who made that anti-trans Cross post is a Republican, an abuser, or anything else that contributed to this systematic nonsense? Absolutely fucking not. That's an extreme statement to make and they're most likely just a very mislead kid who may or may not have been influenced by a couple of these problems, and them acting out the way they did is perhaps a reflection of how important it is to acknowledge these things even if our community is just fandom and the point is to have fun, to have a distraction from all the bad powers at play.

Either way, their actions pissed me off. Hope they learn.

Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk. Get the fuck out.

-- Ouija

[genderqueerdykes]

Same anon that talked about the former homo/transphobe thing.

Man, I'm interested in doing anything to my body but I really want one of this little moustaches that cis women are capable of having. Idk why my mom complains of hers I would kill to have that rn.

To have a woman's body and to yet have a moustache has gotta be greatest blessing I could receive as a bigender person :)

Do I have to take hormones for that or smth?

thanks for stopping by again!

you know, sometimes it's a coin toss. some people end up developing those mustaches regardless of taking HRT- you may have a chance to develop that as you age, but typically, testosterone is needed to help facilitate facial hair growth if it's not already happening. you may be able to take a fairly low dose and still develop that! i have heard from a lot of people that mustaches tend to fill in last out of all of your facial hair, which i can confirmed happened to me. even though i was on testosterone the entire time, my mustache only grew in on the corners of my lips and never really filled all the way out until i was around 30 or so. i've heard people say that a lot of folks mustaches only start filling in until they're 25 or older. that might be anecdotal, but i have definitely seen people develop mustaches as they age

this is a question for my followers: i've heard of people using topical DHT cream to help facilitate certain effects of HRT without getting them all- i've heard about people using DHT cream for bottom growth- does this help with facial hair growth, too? or should this anon look into topical/injectable testosterone?

hope we can get you some more answers! i'm glad that you love that, i also love when women have mustaches. i've always seen it as a very cool thing. i know a lot of women are shamed for it, but i think women should be allowed to grow facial hair freely, especially if their body naturally produces it without any intervention. thanks for stopping by again! if we get any more info for you, we'll be sure to publish it!

EDIT: some kind folks have told us that a lot of trans men and transmascs used topical minoxidil!

it is commonly sold under the brand name "rogain"! i highly recommend taking some time to look into it and see if it's right/safe for you! i've also been informed that it is extremely toxic to cats, so if you have cats, exercise caution, as even small traces of the residue can make them sick. good luck!

[velvetvexations]

anon really went Ah a trans woman who isnt skinny or hairless or feminine and doesnt want to be (thing that can also be true for cis women) clearly this must be a man. anyway (horny voice) wow you are a foot taller than me

I sure am~!

I don't know if it's your blog aesthetics or your kinks or your outspoken opinions on trans rights that gets me the most but i have a huge crush on you for all of the above

I'm a gift.

The way some of the trfs you reblog talk about "tmes" just sounds so much like the way a lot of incels I've seen talk about women, and it still makes me double take sometimes. I don't have an eloquent explanation of how exactly, but the vibe is just so similar to what I saw as an edgy teen on 4chan and it's so weird to see in places that claim to be "progressive"

lotta resentment

MALL ANON HAS A TUMBLR NOW??? we got side-characters fuck yes

an ever expanding cast

came for the trf takedowns and stayed for the neato aesthetic posts hope youre havin a lovely day miss velvet

thank you!

I’m so sick of people on this website taking every opportunity they get to accuse trans men who are just talking about their oppression of being 1. A violent misogynist 2. Not even trans 3. A straight up rapist or abuser. I’m actually so exhausted.

I know anon, and I'm so, so sorry. It's tiring. Take breaks as often as you can.

TRFs saying they need to post discourse and be rancid shit because theyre doing it for "the transfems who cant" (ex, trans women of color & sex workers) sounds INCREDIBLY similar to TERFs saying they need to Post Discourse and Be Rancid because "women in third world countries cant"

it sure is

Maybe i just misread it wrong but why was that one anon implying its bad for transmen to make “trans ppl should be having crazy t4t sex?” Jokes. Is there anything actually wrong about that joke?

I think you mean person I reblogged? They were saying it was sexual harassment lmao.

I feel like a lot of confusion about terfs and radfeminism is simply because a ton of self identified terfs arent radfems but are ppl whos politics abt men arent as intense (like dog standard gender essentialism) but for a lack of a better term coopt the terf concepts around transphobia.

That's certainly true, the term is becoming rapidly diluted not just from people who call all transphobes TERFs but all transphobes calling themselves TERFs. We're still not to where radical feminism is not at the core of it, though.

Some very weird trans people in the dropout tag are complaining about how dungeons and drag queens "makes them uncomfortable" PLEASE explain to me how this is literally any different from conservatives whose reaction to drag is "icky!!! Gross!" Like??? Do they think its progressive to shit on drag queens? Do they think this is ok because they happen to be trans? They sound like Republicans!

well see transfems who do drag aren't real transfems because something something

thoughts on this applying to transfem TRFs?

Blocked so I have no clue what this says.

Re: wounded gazelle. I don't even think it's always that and on purpose. Sometimes it very very blatantly IS. But other times people feel (understandably!) hurt by the backlash they are receiving and instead of thinking "This feels shitty... but could I possibly be in the wrong?" they think "I'm being attacked! This means I am a victim and therefore correct!" genuinely and through lack of self awareness rather than planned malice. Not always easy to tell the difference though!

They are very stupid and egotistical, that is true yes.

[transmascpetewentz]

Moving The Goalposts: Infighting, Exorsexism, and Transandrophobia

I want to start this off not by getting directly into the meat of my theory, but instead by showing all of you a post that I came across today that illustrates exactly what I am talking about when I say that transandrophobes, and specifically TEHMs in this case, move the goalposts in a way that causes infighting within the trans(masc) community. This is a post by a pretty well-known TEHM whose blog I've been watching for a while.

What Jackson is doing here seems pretty obvious on the surface. He's making fun of nonbinary people who were AFAB because he perceives them as fakers and/or trenders. However, when you take a look at some of the other things that he believes, you realize that it just isn't that simple.

This is a post by one of Jackson's mutuals on here. If you don't know what some of these phrases mean, "trans heterosexual" refers to gay trans people (in this case, it's likely focusing on transmascs, but this rhetoric harms transfem lesbians too), and "trans homosexual" refers to straight trans people. What lavenderlad is trying to do is infantilize non-straight trans people, acting like we are complaining about nothing (maybe hysterical, even) for pointing out the oppression that we face from cishets and cis queers alike.

But it goes even deeper.

This right here is a very interesting post, specifically because lavenderlad seems to have changed his tune completely. As opposed to infantilizing us like in the previous post, he has now switched to transandrophobic conspiracy theories about how we are apparently some sort of dominant societal force despite being less than 2% of the population. My antisemitism radar is going off right now, too, because this sounds suspiciously like your average antisemite talking about Jews. He went very quickly from treating us like we're little girls who can't do anything to treating us like evil, scary men who are trying to invade his space.

He moved the goalposts because it was convenient for him at this moment to contribute to the oppression of gay trans men.

To elaborate, there's a specific type of transandrophobia seen in these circles that Jackson and lavenderlad are using. They are applying both maleness and femaleness to us. They infantilize us like we are women, and use our perceived femininity to justify gatekeeping us out of their spaces, while also using very common anti-gay male and generally anti-marginalized male stereotypes such as us being inherently aggressive, invaders, our bodies disgusting, etc. It's exorsexism, plain and simple.

And I feel like these posts show us how transandrophobes and transphobes in general can cause infighting within the trans community. A feminine nonbinary person might look at Jackson's first post and go "see! trans men have so much better than me!" but in fact, trans men, both binary and nonbinary, aren't actually treated any better. The grass is not greener. Trans men who try to conceal our birth sex and/or transness are considered liars, trying to invade spaces we don't belong, and more; but trans men and transmascs who do not try to pass, who don't try to conceal our transness, are accused of being "not really dysphoric."

Do not be fooled into thinking that transandrophobes would like you better if your gender expression was different. They don't want trans men to be displaying our transness, they don't want us to go stealth, and they don't want anything in between. They want us to be cis. Do not argue with your trans brothers about who society hates more; because society will see you as whatever will prove a transandrophobe's point. Address the root problems of patriarchy and transandrophobia instead of letting infighting eat us alive.

[trans-androgyne]

This is the anon you asked to hear what tme meant to me. I also dislike the idea that trans women and femmes are the only people with a meaningful relationship to transmisogyny but I also don't think it is unfair to say that there are people who don't experience it and have nothing to say on the subject. I've never experienced transmisogyny, and I don't have a lot to add to the conversation. I don't mind clarifying my relationship to it. "Exempt" is a strong word if taken literally, but to me, it is just the sentiment that it doesn't personally affect me in any noticeable or harmful way, which is fair and accurate. If people are venting about real experiences with tmes being prejudiced and ignorant, then I can't take offence because it is true that people who experience less transmisogyny are more likely to not understand it or contribute to the problem.

At the same time, I do understand why other trans and intersex people do feel like they have shared experiences with trans women and femmes or have things to add to the discussion. I don't think it is fair to shut people down on identity alone. For instance, I once saw someone use a fictional example of an intersex woman being harassed by a store owner because he had mistaken her for a trans woman. Their conclusion was that the incident was intersexist because the woman was intersex, not trans. I take issue with this because it interrogates the victim's identity rather than questioning the motives and biases on the aggressor. To understand what happened, you would need to understand both intersexism and transmisogyny as well as how both forms of oppression have roots in oppositional sexism.

As for whether this fictional person or real intersex people would be tma is, in my opinion, up for them to decide, probably based on a lot of factors I don't know such as how frequently things like this happen or if there are other overlapping experiences. So long as the conversation is happening in good faith, people should be able to determine their own relationship to transmisogyny.

Still, trans women and femmes should be leading the conversation; they should be able to push back on people misrepresentating the nature of transmisogyny in good faith without being ignored or accused of being aggressive.

Again, i won't deny that there are problems with the way some people use these words (I think you are right about there needing to be less of a binary) but a lot of trans women and femmes find these terms helpful for now. The language might need to evolve, but I don't think it is completely broken.

A lot of problems with the tme/tma binary would be solved by letting people opt into whichever they felt fit their life better instead of the current situation of assuming others’ relationship to transmisogyny based on their identities. I worry that the tma label would still be a gatekept club considering how people treat it currently, but it’s possible that could change.

For the purposes of this conversation I am tme. My problem isn’t complaining about specific real “tmes” being transmisogynistic, but complaining about them as a group often in situations not even related to transmisogyny. Tme people are seen to oppress tma people and therefore any attack on them is seen as justified. People have told us to kill ourselves and “die faster” and said we’re the worst kind of trans people and more—from examples I’ve seen go unchallenged. This is a broader problem with people thinking they can “punch up” at their oppressors in any cruel way they want no matter what, like KAM. If the tme label continues to be used, it cannot be used as a synonym for “malicious transmisogynist” without contributing to the divide among the community.

I don’t want to strip language from transfems. I am uncomfortable with the way these terms are currently being used. I hope their use is able to evolve and ideally drop aspects that aren’t useful while broadening everyone’s understandings of transmisogyny as a system.

[sapphicsvibes]

Okay then, so what do you think of groups that exclude afab people? I've been seeing tons of transfems groups being exclusionary to afab people, but I haven't seen you complaining about that before. Not only is that misogynistic, but it's heavily transphobic. So why just complain about 'afab only groups' if transfems can have anti afab groups?

Gonna try my best to answer this as someone who is not trans fem.

*also I am speaking about perisex people as a perisex person—this post doesn’t have anything to do with, nor am I speaking about intersxism*

But over the past few years, there has been a lot more overtly exclusionary language, like afab, used that often ostracizes transfems from queer spaces. within the trans community, trans women (esp indigenous and black trans fems) are the most oppressed and face the highest level of abuse, violence, homelessness, etc. When I say violence, I also mean vioelnce in the way they are treated within trans/nobinary spaces, and how terf language has become more and more acceptable to use to keep them out.

There are trans and nonbinary groups right now, who use afab as an identity and specifically list trans fems as their oppressors/enemies. These groups/people who identity with the term afab and use it as an identity usually do not want trans fems in their spaces.

And that language isn’t just exclusive to Tumblr.

I remember going to a cafe and saw a flier asking for participating for an autism study, and it’s like ‘we want queer people and women - afab only please’ and no one saw anything wrong with that.

There are afab exclusive trans/queer spaces everywhere and it is so normalized. And it pushes this idea that transfers do not belong in these spaces because they are harmful to afabs.

Meanwhile, transfems are still the most brutalized in the queer community, they still face the most homocides, cases of homelessnesss, etc. they are not represent in legislative spaces and are often denied jobs in queer places. 

The trans/queer community has adopted transmisogynstic language and in using that, has painted trans women as their oppressors and gives transfems no space or platform to feel included. 

And what’s worse is many spaces have started referring to transfems as ‘amab’ when transfems don’t even use that term to refer to themselves because transfems don’t have anything in common with most amab people who aren’t transfem — which a lot of people…don’t get…and idk why….

Anyway, with all that is happening and all that will happen with how terfy trans/queer spaces are—I don’t think it’s wrong that transfems don’t want to be lumped in with people who paint them as oppressors, rapists, and who exclude them. I don’t think it’s wrong for transfems not to want to be lumped in with people from the community who identify with a term that has literally excluded them, and a term that terfs use. With how shitty the trans, queer, nonbinary community treats them, why would they want a space where those very people who excluded them can ruin.

As a black nonbinary transmasc person….I really don’t ever shame groups that kick out their oppressors. Transfems not wanting afab people in their communities when for years, afab people have hurt them, painted these harsh pictures of them, excluded them from trans AND womens spaces while using harmful language isn't bad.

and of course, this wouldn't have been a problem if the term afab stayed in intersex spaces. if perisex non trans fem trans and nonbinary people didn't adopt these terms and misuse them, and make afab a fucking identity that people actually eqaute to being trans masc/nonbinary/ etc.

it's so funny that we have people who call themselves afab, proudly, getting upset that transfems are like 'no afabs please' and having the audacity to call it misognsytic and transphobic.

bitch, you started it in the first place!!!!

[molsno]

im the genderkoolaid complainer anon from earlier just saw your response- that transunity shit is soo bullshit 😭 (saying as a black person) its literally all lives matter for trans mascs. most trans men from Real Life aren't even that annoying ey're just the most insane vocal minority. i could get behind transunity if it was like uplifting trans ppl of any flavor no matter what (ex: trans mascs standing with your trans sisters when faced with transphobia/transmisogyny(noir), trans fems standing with their trans brothers when faced with transphobia/transmasc hatred then making out about it) but its just like ":/ Why are the girls getting more attention than me!!! I have it worse than them!!! [totally not bio essentialist]" It's crazy. literally most online subset of mascs. there's a reason many of the truthers r white they've never experienced or know what basic intersectionality is

I mean yeah I'm all for trans unity in the sense of sticking up for each other against transphobes and supporting each other when we're in need, but like there has to be an acknowledgement that the things we go through are not exactly the same and that there are privilege dynamics between us even as fellow trans people. I generally like to assume good faith, so I feel like some of the people who are suckered into transunitism genuinely believe that it's good-natured and don't realize that it's spearheaded by a bunch of transmisogynistic trans guys. I'd like to think that some of them can actually be shown the truth, but they need to be willing to listen to trans women first.

and yeah, you're absolutely right. I've compared it to "I'm not a feminist, I'm an egalitarian" plenty of times before but all lives matter is a great analogy too. a lot of poc have pointed out that transandrophobia truthers are mostly white, and I've definitely seen that too. it makes sense then why they all view oppression as strictly interpersonal, rather than being anything systemic.

something I've also noticed is that they use the fact that black men are portrayed as more dangerous and are thus subjected to more violence as proof that antimasculism is real. now, I'm white, and I'm fully aware that because of that I don't have the nuance to describe the causes of this phenomenon in detail, but it just seems so callous and cruel to use the violence black men face as a tool to strengthen their ideology. and in doing so, they explicitly ignore the fact that black women (and black trans women especially) are ALSO subjected to violence due to being portrayed as a threat to white cis women and white children. it's just another way that transandrophobia truthers demonstrate the biologically essentialist "afab = vulnerable, amab = dangerous" attitude that they've all internalized, which is wrong for many reasons, one of which being that afab people are only portrayed as vulnerable if they're white.

[drdemonprince]

History anon here with appreciation and a couple clarifications:

The worst thing *I* could be was a trans man, not the worst thing *anyone in the world* could be. I realize I didn't write this super clearly, so that's on me, but I was talking about the worst felt sense of identity I specifically could have. Like, being a murderer would be worse, but you don't come to be a murderer by keeping yourself up at night, wondering whether it best describes who you are. I thought I could force myself to hold a different identity, one that wouldn't be betraying the feminist values I was surrounded by and looked up to.

I didn't say anything about how my experience compares to trans women, though for the record, they were also treated terribly in the spaces that hated me, and I also stood up for and worked with them. Most of my academic scholarship has been focused on trans men because that's the area where I'm most passionate and qualified, but that's my personal work right now, not some sideways way of putting others down.

I didn't know you'd been hanging out in trans masc spaces in the early 2000s. High five for guys who survived those days.

I don't use Tumblr, so I don't have an @ to give you. This account I'm posting from? It's technically a work account I set up for a job almost a decade ago that decided it didn't want the page after all, so it's still linked to my email. There's no other way for me to reliably contact you that I know of, but if you think of something, I'm totally open.

Hey there, thanks for the clarifications, and sorry to have mischaracterized what you were aiming to convey in your first message. You have a lot of experiences and knowledge that I'd love to learn from more to the extent you are fine with sharing.

I have a friend who grew up in the SF Bay area in the early 2000s and was a trans guy then, and from them I've gathered little threads here and there regarding how trans men were seen and treated at the time (all the trans guys were expected to be bottoms, not just for the reasons that's such a Thing today, but also because in feminist spaces it was seen as the appropriate position for a trans guy to be relative to a cis woman, within the community hierarchy)... there are certainly big elements of the scene and regional differences that I know next to nothing about, when it comes to trans guys experiences at the time. I think the Midwest queer/feminist scene was probably very different in a lot of ways. It certainly was very sex negative. I'd be curious to hear a lot more about the ambassador program pushing for trans male inclusion at the bathhouses that you mentioned, and more about where you're from in general.

For all that I challenge contemporary complaining about "trans male invisibility," it really is true that gay trans men were completely excluded from the communities I was around back then, and I didn't really feel that we could exist (though I had known some bi trans guys at that time). That certainly kept me from transitioning for far longer than I otherwise would have. And I feel like I have witnessed the canonization of Lou Sullivan happening in real time here on Tumblr... even more recently than much of the advocacy that you shared about. He just was not on my radar or someone that anyone in my circles was talking about until a few years ago. But I guess it's not surprising that radfems who considered gay men to be privileged perverts weren't speaking about him. Man Columbus Ohio sucked dick

I'm not sure how best for us to get in touch, then. My twitter DMs are open too. I keep most of the rest of mine shut for lots of reasons. Funny that your account is a brand account on here...are you the Dennys tumblr account

[papirouge]

the recent 2edgy4me rounds of "um ackshually it's okay to commit infanticide/abandon an infant in a dumpster if the mother doesn't want it, what if she was scared" is like the most base lizard-brain take I've seen in a while, what's worse is it's not even the first time people have unironically put forward post-birth abortion (aka infanticide) as a practice we should view neutrally (eugh). or there are those who think it's okay for a woman to continue to do drugs even if she knows she's pregnant and thus willingly harming her developing child. and if you aren't okay with either of the above you're just a misogynist!!! stop trying to control women!!! etc. etc.

like radblr sometimes imitates male sociopathy too closely lmao another one I love is people claiming they're pro-choice but also get mad when a woman didn't abort when "she should have." umm sweatie it's her body her choice is it not? if she wanted to keep her baby what business is it of yours?? this seems like an almost exclusively American attitude for some reason, I'm thinking because the average American is so politicized and fanatical. literally cannot have a normal conversation about any of this without being called a million names and told to kill yourself, radfems on this website are more civil to trans identified males than they are to pro-life women, even liberal or Democrat or atheist pro-lifers, I respect some radfem tumblr users but most of them are just so lacking in self-awareness it's kind of pitiful

It all boils down to radfemistan biggest ideological inconsistency that every choice women make should be critically instigated (shaving, plastic surgery, make up, etc) UNTIL it comes to abortion. Either women have to question every of their choices, or they don't.

Oh, and I might get a lot a shit for that but IDC : the growing trend of women to defend abusive women under the dArvO thing is crazy and they all come off as abusive psycho themselves using coping textbook psychology gotcha to excuse their destructive personality. IDC what radfem say patting themselves in the back for not making fun of Amber Heard (congratulations for being a... decent human being??) they were the first to harass, and bullying pro Depp WOMEN (calling them "Deppford wives"). They even rejoiced when it's been revealed a girl who was pro Depp killed herself (don't know if it was related to her bullying).... Everytime I see a dumb radfem/feminist quote that "Chateau Bunny" xitter girl I get major red flag because that batshit crazy chick was full on invested into those bullying campaigns targeting (young) girls whose only crime was defending Johnny Depp. Bunch of deranged no life witches....

I'm absolutely not here for their dumb historical revisionism of them acting like they were the only one to stand for "women" when they were in the socials streets harassing women for thought crime. They were there to defend a hot blonde millionaire woman from defamation allegations they somehow projected into - that's all.

You're absolutely right about feminist oddly having a bigger commitment harassing fellow women than men. There were plentiful pro Depp moids, as far as a I know.

I understand there's no "perfect victim" and that you can violently react to violence inflicted to you firsthand, but what I don't understand is that they act like this shit was a prerogative of women. I'll never forget how those feminists were like "there's no perfect victim" to defend Amber Heard .....while dragging all the nasty shit Johnny Depp did decades ago to prove he couldn't possibly be a victim himself. Or because he was richer or older... Wasn't Heard richer/more famous than her ex she was infamously arrested for physical abuse? That her stans argue the openly LGBT female officer that came on the scene was lesbophobic?? And then they use the fact the ex gf withdrawing her justice complain is evidence nothing actually happened, because WE ALL KNOW DV victims NEVER backtrack when they take action against their abuser? 💀

If genders were reversed, we all know those women wouldn't go to all those hoops to defend Heard shady past, but we all know why they do that...

That's what I dislike the most with abortionist/feminist : they're so duplicitous and hypocrite you can't never rely on them to be remotely consistant on the broad scale. I'm absolutely not surprised a bunch of them turned pro white supremacists when it came to kill Palestian women bc it was an opportunity to kill "rapists Muslims".

They have the same destructive mindset with their anti tra obsession, now rubbing shoulders with know racists rightoids known to not give a shit about women's rights unless it comes to shit on (alleged) trans people. It was first Kiwifarm and now xitter bluecheckmarks muskophants they screenshot as gender"expert". We are in the trenches.

[boreal-sea]

why is it that any time someone tries to talk about issues men face there's always someone else responding with "so you think systemic misandry exists?? that's misogynistic" like..... the only people i've ever seen act like systemic misandry exists are those white straight cis able-bodied traditionally masculine men complaining about how women having rights oppresses them and if you can't differentiate between that and a man of color/queer man/disabled man talking about his experiences, that feels like a you problem, honestly.

Because many people are only capable of thinking of things in binary opposites: "If X is true, then Y must be false". Including those cishet white men. They think that if women get rights, then men must lose rights for that to happen.

It's how people somehow managed to turn "trans men face oppression" into "So You Think Trans Women Oppress Trans Men!?!?!?!"

For some folks, they just can't imagine a world where two things are true at once. They can't imagine a world where women are oppressed for being women, and where certain kinds of men are also oppressed for reasons linked to their manhood.

Because to them, if all women = oppressed, then all men = oppressor. But if you say "ok, but some men = oppressed", they think you must mean "ALL WOMEN = OPPRESSORS!"

No. All women are oppressed for being women, and also, some men are oppressed for an intersecting collection of identities that intrinsically includes their manhood.

And it's incredibly difficult to talk about nuanced subjects to people with binary, on/off, black and white, everything-or-nothing thinking. It's not impossible, it just involves a lot of backtracking, excruciatingly repetitive clarifications, and luck that the person you are talking to will stop knee-jerking at everything you say and actually think about it for two seconds.

[pondscummy]

the "also sick" comment isn't like "btw I'm SICK, how dare you not know" it's me saying I'm sick like how 2/3 of my roommates are

but like I'm so;;;; it feels so rich that L is like wtf do you want from me about me not replying for 45 minutes when I had to beg his gf over hours and hours of texts every so often to not force me to sit in unwiped shit after my surgery bc she had openly told me she just didn't rly feel like setting up the attachable bidet after telling me for weeks she would, and I never ever got a reply from her or L ever acknowledging that they were wide awake hanging out and laughing while I was like stuck in bed barely able to move begging for follow through on a commitment they made in advance and i eventually had to spend over $100 to hire someone to come out the next day and do it for me and I had to hold my shit for hours lmfao

like L is sooooo great at couching things in flawless tumblr wellness speak but only to talk about how valid they are for not showing up for you and how fucked up it is that you MIGHT ever have a moment where you can't be 100% there w them. like idk what to tell you I've been laying in bed with a sore throat and cough and fever passing out and waking up to roll over in buckets of sweat like the rest of the house. I do genuinely get being annoyed by a lack of response but it's also right back to this whole thing about Always assuming I'm mad at them which is legit one of the only things that actually makes me mad fjdkddhk like bro I do not THINK about you when you're not acting like I'm a bomb about to blow (also, as an aside -- we all take turns buying TP and it's usually me who does it like it's not out of pocket for me to say hey you are the One person who is out of the house already rn, can you get this on your way bc None of the bathrooms have back up rolls and one is totally out and I had to text our sickest roommate telling her to use the bidet and drip dry like.... "am I the first person you asked" yes bc you are the person who makes the most sense dumbfuck. I'm not being "overly needy" toward you or whatever jfc)

they literally told me at one point that the reason they're so scared of me is that my face is "triggering" for them when I'm angry or not feeling good and puts them "back in a really bad place" they have seen my face angry literally 3 times and each time it was on my way back to my room to decompress and each time I said nothing to them other than that I was in a bad mood and I was going to go to my room. I didn't yell either I just said it normal. like I genuinely feel gaslit here like I'm this horrifying monster of a man when it's like dude sometimes people are mad I don't know what YOU want from ME!! I do all my venting here where they can't ever see it even tho we've blocked each other, I censor their name like anyone even knows who they are, I isolate to chill out and it's literally been less than a handful of times like should I fling myself from the roof??????? would that fix it???

I literally know it's bc I'm a man too. none of this was like this until my facial hair came in more and it got crazy worse after I got top surgery and they're so so vocal about how much they despise men and think men should all fuck off and die and there's only a handful of acceptable men that they've personally vetted. despite them pretty clearly having a trans woman fetish bc they only date or look at porn of trans women and they do the whole step on me mommy thing about it even tho their gf has complained like. lmfao you're just a baby te//rf even tho you ID as trans masc yourself. like that's all this even is. I'm a big (5'3") scary (spent the whole weekend w my coworkers asking if I was 12) man who's obviously going to snap and kill you all bc sometimes I *checks writing on hand* get frustrated and go lay down about it

[country-wizard]

Expression and Desires

Lately I have been feeling a sort of way

I tried on my mother's bra

I pictured it like how a boy would try on his

Mom's clothes

I don't wear bras haven't in a long time

Always sports

Mom has the weird wire ones

I didn't hate what I saw

Not in a urge or desire to transition

Back to a woman

But more of a never thought I could look 

Like that

They didn't quite fit right 

It wasn't to big but it wasn't to small

Some weird in-between 

Though I guess I don't really know how bras

Are meant to fit in the first place

Lately I found myself wearing 1 of her tank tops

Originally for a party under my button up

But also because I like how it looks

The word in my head when i see myself

In the mirror in that tank top

Butch

I wouldn't describe myself as butch any other time

I have never identified myself as 

A women who is more traditionally

Masculine

Though I used to be called a tomboy

It's a nice word but doesn't describe me

I wouldn't even feel comfortable using it if It did

I don't feel like a woman 

I don't want to be a woman 

Yet lately when I picture myself in that

tank top

Or

��wire bra 

I see a part of me I've never seen before

A hint of something I've always wanted

Femininity 

I wore an outfit once 

Tank top, sweater, and  jeans and then  i had a crisis 

I saw a person dressed masculine

Regretted dressing like that 

It was a cute outfit though and I sometimes

Think back to it

I've worn dresses I think they're rather 

Nice pretty even

They look weird on me

Sometimes I want to wear them though

I can't they look weird

I become a woman

Sometimes I stare at myself in the mirror

Before I shower 

Naked completely bare

I cup my hands over my chest and try to

Flatten it with my hands

I think about the days it'll be gone 

In bed late at night I think about having a 

Dick

I'll never have one even though I wouldn't complain

I wish it could be like my fantasies as a kid

I could have my parts and a dick 

My chest could go from flat to busty in a matter of seconds 

It will never happen

I read a lot of fanfiction

Written by queers who write queers

The amount of porn I've read with people

Bodies similar to mine yet so different

Farther along in journeys

They make me feel like I can be loved

Lately though they've been making me question

I've seen a lot of art with trans characters 

With boobs and all 

Men or not 

It makes me wonder if I can be similar 

Can i still be viewed as me with a chest of meat

They make me believe so

Yet the urge to rid of them is overpowering

Sometimes I don't want to read fics

With others like me 

2 cis men 

Not out of some sexual fantasy 

But to dream 

I align so much with masculinity

It's hard to picture me in anything but

It's why I don't align with those whom love woman 

The way other queer woman do

Or nonbinary folk who love woman

But instead I find myself drawn to men 

The desire to be a man with another 

It's one of my reasons I wish things were a bit different down there

Even though I don't truly want to become a man

Perhaps

Definitely

I don't think I'll ever know gender is weird

I don't feel like a man or a woman But sometimes

I wish I could be one 

It'd be so easy so simple 

I wish I could shape shift my body 

Not of a change of gender but a change of appearance

It makes me dysphoric when I do it with clothes 

I like how I dress I just want the anatomy to be different 

Sometimes I want the clothes though 

To feel pretty and/or handsome 

Like lace under a suit 

They should make boxers with lace hem

It'd be funny and I'd be their #1 buyer

Everything looks weird on me though

Nothing fits my shape

Yet sometimes I think on skirts

And suit pants 

I think I would like lace under suits almost as if a little surprise

A treat for my eyes not to be sexy 

But to scratch an itch I have

To satisfy a feeling 

I wish I lived alone 

Owned a wire bra

To feel like a boy wearing his Mom's dress

When she isn't home 

To wear it around my house feeling odd

Alone with nobody to judge 

Not a feeling of discomfort or happiness

But something else 

Un-word-able 

When I live alone 

I'll wear my wire bra and I'll wear my packer 

And I'll sit and feel weird 

Not bad 

Just weird

It's like pain something I can't describe 

When I get top surgery 

I'll wear my packer and my inserts for my wire bra

And I'll think 

This is just like my fantasies 

[staenless]

I'm gonna be vulnerable with you guys for a sec and express what I'm certain is about to be an unpopular opinion; I fucking loath how Tumblr talks about TikTok, and specifically women and girls on TikTok. Don't like, don't read, I just honestly have to get this off my chest cause I'm mad

Like I see SO many posts about how popular TikTok trends, which are almost always mainly popular with women and girls, are self infantalising, promoting unhealthy behavior and societal views and literally killing feminism. I am not joking. I see so many of these posts. And like the craziest shit is the people posting this are SO certain of themselves and these buck-ass-wild opinions that they cannot even see the fucking hypocrisy of claiming these women are "self infantalising". Like you don't see how you taking one look at a TikTok trend, not knowing shit about it, and then deciding in your infinite wisdom you just HAVE to educate these imbicilic girls is fucking infantalising.

You're literally saying "these silly little girls with their "Girl Math" are portraying themselves as srupid and idiotic, and I am now going to call them srupid and idiotic for making a video where they rationalise purchasing certain luxuries to make themselves happy, because women like this are the reason we don't have gender inequality!" like it's sooo fucking patronising, bad faith and very clearly comes from someone who saw like, two videos and an essay ass post from one of their fellow fear-mongering online friends and decided to condemn these silly fucking idiots for their blatant internalised mysogyny. I, the supreme poster with wisdom beyond their platform however, am impervious to internalised mysogyny.

And it becomes even more obvious when you look through this person's posting history and they only ever talk about female-dominated trends (and when I say "female dominated I definitely include trans women here because I've seen posts complaining about how trans-women will call themselves girls and it's totally contributing to the societal infantalisation of women. These posts reak of terf-yness and seem to forget that men also refer to themselves as boys. "one of the boys" "me and the boys" it's almost as if using the child-centric gendered term denotes a level of carelessness and whimsical fun. "women's night" or "mens night" sounds severe and responsible. "girls night" or "boys night" sounds lighthearted and carefree. But God forbid we consider other influences on the language we use, it's clearly a way of infantalising women and stripping them of their agency, especially when it's women using these terms, reclamation and terms of indearment are for men only.). Mewling, a trend mainly popular with men and boys, originates from the looksmaxxing community, which is a branch of the wider manosphere/incel community. Where are your hand wringing posts about a trend popular with young men and boys that can be traced back to the incel community, a community that has produced actual fucking terrorists and murderers. A community where men advocate for women having their rights stripped away from them. But these wise bloggers seem fucking blind to mewling, or maybe in THIS instance they're able to understand that looksmaxxing was appropriated from the incel community in a effort to mock them, and mewling is an ironic continuation of this mockery. Well just ignore that videos about how to get that mewling jawline, which could lead down a rabbit hole to genuine looksmaxxing posts, to actual incel community. That's not important, but you know what is? Some earing disorder centered accounts made "girl dinner" posts showing how very little they ate, so girl dinner is a super harmful trend that promotes eating disorders.

The difference between Mewling leading to Inceldom, and Girl Dinner leading to an Eat Disorder is that women are fucking srupid and easy to manipulate, while boys are either too smart for this or cannot be held accountable for being radicalised or any of their actions really, so why even bother.

Do you understand my frustration here?

Okay sure, maybe some of these people genuinly DO care about TikTok promoting unhealthy beauty standards, or unhealthy traditional gender roles or just general unhealthy and dangerous ideas to be promoted to young women. So why don't they? Where are posts discussing trad wife influences who encourage their followers to give themselves fully to their husbands control, usually leading to white supremacist ideas. Where are the posts about "witches" (in commas because I do not think these people are genuine practicing witches, not because i don't respect or recognise wicca as a religion) who convince their followers to go off psychiatric medications because their mental illness is actually a divine gift, or that their womb is a sacred female blessing where all their power lies, and that this energy is submissive and caring like a hearth (that women without wombs aren't women at all, they lack this natural inclination to submission and motherhood that a divine goddess bestowed us, the real women, who need men to balance our divine energies). Where are call outs of influences who promote skin care and makeup products they don't use, making young girls buy and buy and buy in hopes of looking like their idols. Hell, where are the call outs for influences who encourage their users to stop using fucking sunblock, either because it's anti-aging and part of the toxic beauty culture, or that scientists are lieing to you and it actually causes sunscreen (I've even seen posts on Tumblr promoting ditching your sunscreen because of the whole "anti aging" angle. I think some Northern Hemisphere people are genuinly so fucking dillusional they very preventable cancer isnt a problem. Hi, I'm from the Southern Hemisphere, wear fucking sunscreen every time you go outside, skin cancer is real, the sun causes it, having melanoma lazered off is expensive.) For Christ's sake what about the MLMs???

These people who loooove talking about how their shitting on popular TikTok trends is actually feminism never discuss ACTUALLY harmful content on the app. They just look at whatever is popular with women and girls, think up a bad faith argument, and then send off posts complaining about it. Girl Dinner is going to cause eating disorders, girl math discourages women to study in stem and encourages them to act stupid, everything showers are upholding unfair beauty standards, these women are destroying society as we know it! Like you reek of mysogyny, and you probably won't read this post because your too busy getting sucked into a community of reactionaries who can't stop crying about how younger generations aren't media literate and don't know how to use Microsoft Word and use TikTok as google and all these other big bad scary headlines you never bothered reading the actual article for. You'll reblog screenshot of women saying "university is so hard, I wish I could just drop out and be a house wife" where Malala left a frown emoji comment and go "looks at these insolent hussies, I bet Malala is so sad they're wasting a gift she fought for!" as if women haven't been making the same joke for years and years, with no intent to follow through, because university is fucking hard and an idealized housewife life seems easy on some days. Malala got the fucking joke, she left a silly emoji to express 1) some women don't have this opportunity and 2) I'm sad not all women have this opportunity but 3) I can recognise how difficult studying is, and that sometimes an idealized version of life is easier to imagine, I get that you're just venting your frustrations but I'll leave this funny little emoji to remind you to keep working hard. She gets the joke. The girls posting, get the joke. I got the joke. But you choose to lament.

So yeah, I'm super annoyed by the way people on Tumblr act like women on TikTok are stupid, incapable or critical thinking, and stripping away women's rights. Instead of actually talking about ways women's rights are taken from them, or harmful communities that sell radicalisation and mysogyny to young girls, you chose Girl Dinner, I bet they're really proud of that choice too.

[manie-sans-delire-x]

you know i care about you immemsely but i got a lot to say.

i haven't been any of these anons but they've been right, it honestly is a minor change to the English language. ppl that are against it or see entitlement in it don't recognize their privilege. the way you're talking about it seems kinda super pointless. i have my own gripes with afab and amab as indicators, but you're clinging to these ideas with such a death grip, and i need to tell you it genuinely is the smallest change. i get that like there's a lot of room for you to not acknowledge your privilege or whatever, but something common in the phrasing/language you're using reminds me of how language changed reluctantly from everyone, if not the majority of ppl, saying "nigger" to them saying "black person." now ofc there are ppl that say "african american" and a good chunk of us that would much rather just be referred to as "black people" but that's not something I'd let a white person handle the debate on (and in this context african American and black people on an argument of terms doesn't equate with the debate between using female/male vs afab/amab). so the fact that people are upset that someone who isn't trans or doesn't identify as trans is making these comments about redundancy and genuinely fighting back makes sense, like your behaviour seems concerning.

now biology doesn't just go away when you change the terms, people know this and acknowledge this, and can acknowledge that biology is in fact more complicated than simple male or female in the first place, and that our designations of such are asinine. your way of thinking is just a little too traditional if you're caught up on change needing to be evolutionary, and that society is meant to cater to the majority. just because that is the way we live doesn't mean it's the way we should live. lest we forget that "should" in all its connotations is a subjective term. it's taken a lot of constant outspoken behaviour for any of us to get this far, you're seeing changes occur as you grow because there's more space for it with all the media we have and the effort people have been putting in since time has had some effect.

besides all that though, you did say "everyone else is forced to be fine with being called afab/amab/cis," but like i can't think of any women in my life that have enjoyed being referred to as "female." like that genuinely has been a red flag in both men and women for years now. we have grown to use sex based terms for the sake of bigotry, and the people that want to oppose said bigotry offer changes and your idea is to spit on them. you're calling them word obsessed but you're pressed over the logistics of using afab instead of just saying female.

but also language is intricately tied to genocide, eugenics, and any type of bigotry, it has an impact, people WILL believe the words they say and will act on it. you want to say people have a lot deeper problems going on that they should explore, but what you don't understand is that this is a way of exploring. the change in phrasing is not that big of a deal, you're not getting dumber, you're not losing anything, but if you want to say it's entitled to change, anyone else can easily say it's entitled to stay the same. people can and will and have identified how bigotry has been maintained over the years, and the language and behaviour you use has been a part of said continuity. like think of how it's considered inappropriate to use self deprecation as jokes, and how changing that has had more positive outcomes for ppl than just continuing to degrade themselves casually.

you can simply acknowledge that there are aspects of people trying to use afab and amab that are redundant and move on, but I've seen you get caught up on all these gender related things and complain and get stumped and belittle them each time. idk homie, maybe take a course in gender studies for fun or something.

1- Its not a small change to change the whole English language my dude. And what about every other language and culture? Them too? That is entitlement to an extreme. Demanding the entire world change for 1% of the populations feelings. Are animals no longer female and male? Are humans not animals anymore?

2- You compare calling someone a female or male to a slur? Really? "But that's not something I'd let a white person handle the debate on" So then why are people who (according to them) arent female or male deciding what words to use and what they mean?

And ok, lets compare it to race for a second. So youve said repeatedly before that a transwoman understands what a woman's upbringing is like, despite not being treated socially or legally as a girl or seen by others as a girl. So if a white person put on black face and says they identify as black, could they claim to know what its like to be born and grow up as a black person? Why not, by your logic?

If someone accepts transgenderism, they have to accept trans-race, even trans-species. It follows the exact same lack of logic and is all feelings based. If you feel it, you are it. In fact trans-race is way more logical, because unlike sex, someone actually CAN be half black, half white, 1/4 asian whatever. They can move to a country and learn their language and customs. They can get citizenship. Race is a social construct, right? We know this. Humans havent evolved long enough to create true distinct races. So who are you to say now that they cant do that? You bigot.

3- "I can't think of any women in my life that have enjoyed being referred to as "female." Its not about enjoyment its about objective reality. Most women have no problem at all being called a female in any kind of academic, professional, or medical context because we ARE female. The only ever problem there ever was with the word "female" was when it was used by misogynists to demean us- for being female. (Woah hold on I thought womens oppression and misogyny had nothing to do with our sex- wild). It was always about the context in which it was used, and the intent behind it. I think you know that.

4- You sound like you think getting rid of the words female and male will decrease misogyny and bigotry. Its not the word that the problem, its the attitude that there is something wrong with being the word, with being female. Hey, say we're "reclaiming" it if that makes it easier for you. The very fact that you dont think its a big deal, to erase our sex's existence... As if we arent already pushed to the side and erased from history.

5- "But if you want to say it's entitled to change, anyone else can easily say it's entitled to stay the same." No cuz see, entitlement is about prioritizing your own wants and needs above everyone else. Above the vast majority, thinking that you are special. People cant be entitled to something 99% of the world agrees with and lives by, with a basic concept thats been present though out all of history in every culture.

I encourage you to study womens history and current world issues that womens are facing, although it certainly wont be fun. Women's oppression is so blatently sex-based that its a slap in the face to deny that, and painfully idiotic.

You're smarter than this Nix, jesus christ. Begging you to get a grip.

[nervoustragedyluminary]

Yeah I've seen a few trans women jumping on it too with "trans inclusive 4b movement" subs popping up on reddit etc that exclude trans men and other trans people who aren't women and ease the harm done to us by abortion and BC bans in favour of calling us gender traitors for "choosing" to be men and not having the institutional power of cis men to single handedly stop the BS ...

because apparently we can just magically chose to not be assaulted or impregnated and we also apparently don't have to worry about trans healthcare bans because we can just go ask some random dudes at the gym for steroids and they'll magically have them, be open to sharing them and not be transphobic or hate crime us /s

Like IDK what world some of these people live in or what kind of charmed lives they think trans men lead where outing ourselves (if we're stealth) to random men at the gym and asking them for illegal substances is safe... Not to mention how rude that would be to assume and go up to a stranger: "hey you look like you're on steroids, gimme some!"

I swear some people (mainly cis but also some fellow trans people sadly) project like this perfect happy issue-less existence on to trans men without actually listening to us then get mad when our realities don't match up to their bizzare headcannons of what life as a transmasculine person is like...

Idk it'd be like me going up to a trans woman and denying she had any problems or any right to complain about issues that effect her "because my mother wanted me to be a girl and people treated me better when I was feminine so people must love that You are a woman and treat you great right?" -

idk it's a selfish lens to see other people's experiences through like trans men aren't you from an alternative universe in opposite land where everything is fine and everyone treats you great for being a dude and likewise for trans women they aren't us from a universe where we were able to be women they don't get treated better for being trans women and we don't get treated better for being trans men - cishet patriarchy hates all trans people and wants to force us all to detransition

man beyond the stupid fucking response from americans who don't gave a fuck about kids in cages until yesterday I'm so sick of the "we have to join the 4b movement!!!" from idiots who don't know the first thing about feminism in korea and the transmisogyny within the 4b movement. instead of "joining the 4b movement" how about you fucking become a transfeminist