#to deliver good queer media

[groovyspinewitch]

Gay and in need of recs

So I made the mistake of deciding to rewatch Supernatural for the first time in ten years. And dear god it was gayer than I remembered, but also now has an ending that is emotionally devastating (which I have my own beef with but this is not about that). So instead I went to watch Good Omens 2 for some not-immediately sucked into super-hell gay angel content. Only all y'all fuckers on the internet failed to spoil me for how emotionally devastating that was too! And we still don't get season 3 for forever. SO.

I need some recommendations for quality dramatic queer media, somewhat similar to Supernatural and GO (in vibes or in plot) but that might actually not make me not want to openly weep. Preferably TV shows, but will accept movies, books, or(truthfully) some really well written fanfiction. TIA.

[weirdly-specific-but-ok]

Pt III good omens but i STILL SOMEHOW haven't watched it (and i'm increasingly passive aggressive)

i'm now basically held hostage adopted as mascot by this fandom. it's fine i'm fine *SIGNALS FOR HELP DESPERATELY*

Alright fuckers I swear this time I'm going to get some shit right. Without further ado, here's my third attempt at a good omens summary:

Everything everywhere is queer all at once

Angel Aziraphale and demon Crowley on earth likey each other

The car is a bentley and it is BLACK not silver and everyone is very upset about this. my bad yall it was reflecting light therefore i guessed more silver than black but I'm not Anish Kapoor take your black.

Then it is yellow, and aziraphale likes it. crowley preferred the black because he's a flamboyant emo.

God is a deadbeat absentee parent and you are all children of divorce.

There's a naked archangel and they cause problems for the husbands somehow. By being naked? By being an archangel? By being at their doorstep? Who knows not me

They were actually married for 6000 years, they just are the last to know about it.

Crowley is on fire. Like, he's slaying for sure, but also he is literally on fire, like Aziraphale's bookstore.

The actors like I said before are Michael Sheen and David Tennant but this is the place where I finally admit that I don't actually know who is whom. I'm going to assume Michael is Aziraphale because Michael sounds angel-y and David is Crowley because uh Michaelangelo made David and was gay for him.

Terry Pratchett is not fictional.

He co-wrote the book with @neil-gaiman, who IS fictional, because he does not have social media. Several of you have assured me that he is in fact a fandom inside joke. I like to think he would be proud of me.

They adopt a preteen and Crowley gives him bad advice.

At some point a baby was delivered to someone and was exchanged for the son of Satan. Idk if the baby is the preteen, or the son of satan is the preteen, or neither. This could be a fanfic, I have no way of differentiating the fanfic from canon on tumblr, except that the canon is weirder.

Crowley does not go down a chute. He goes down a telephone cord after making himself microscopic to pole dance on a pin with shroom-induced backgrounds.

During this his stage name is Disco Tony. Get it king go slay you're making better life choices than I am tbh.

Aziraphale is a biblically accurate angel, and you have all gone to extensive lengths to prove this to me. I understood nothing, but there you go.

It's all very queer, just like the fandom.

Crowley is a retired demon but he still sins by breaking the speed limit.

They eat at fancy restaurants and bicker but like in a sexual undercurrent way.

Crowley gives Aziraphale a private dance that is not a lap dance, it is an apology dance, but not in a kinky way, until it is.

Their haircuts keep changing and range from 'this is acceptable and gay' to 'i let a drunk chimpanzee take gardening shears and a blowtorch to my hair'

It's all ineffably queer my good fellows

Everyone keeps trying to convince me Neil Gaiman is the villain yeah no guys I know it's really you. Y'all be like 'SEASON TWO BROKE ME' and then you're making headcanons to make it sadder yeah I see you mmhm.

There is a final fifteen. It is sad. What is it? No one told me.

The demon turns goats into crows and the angel turns them back and then children are turned into newts (does the angel turn them back? who cares not yall) and the demon was the snake in the Eden garden and everyone's furry game seems to be on point.

There are a rather lot of children. I have not seen them. But I am assured they are there. They are, guys. I assume they were turned into the alcohol Aziraphale and Crowley drink or something.

There was an apocalypse plotline. It was averted. It is not important. You don't talk about plotlines in this fandom, no sir.

Crowley doesn't want to go to heaven. Aziraphale is sad.

The kiss is not nice, just like this fandom. It is queer, just like this fandom. It is sad and desperate and masochistic, just like this fandom.

Aziraphale doesn't want to stay back with Crowley. Crowley is sad.

Season 2 ends. Fandom is sad.

Everyone's sanity is hinging on the promise of a happy ending in season 3. Good luck guys.

Y'all better appreciate this. I can't even boast to my mother about this legacy of mine, hey mum your son has been held hostage kidnapped inducted into a cult adopted by a fandom he's not part of look he's winning at life.

[redbuddi]

As much as I do also dislike Vizviepop, one thing I can't agree with is the comparison to Butch Hartman. Yes, they both have very thin skins, but Butch Hartman scammed his fans by lying about the fundamentalism in his app, he traced commissions, and he was worst part of every project he was involved in, just to name a few things.

Vizvie is worthy of criticisms for a lot of reasons, but she never stole any money, she was pretty upfront about what she's making and has delivered on it, she can actually draw, and her projects are, like them or not, unambiguously hers. Danny Phantom could have been made by other people, (and mostly was until Butch took over and ruined everything.) Hazbin really couldn't have existed without Vizvie.

As much as we like to dunk on people, we do need to remember that Vizvie is a queer creator of color making media for queer audiences, and without the corporate cynicism of a lot of other queer media made by white and straight people. She is a part of our community and we would only be doing harm by lumping her in with people like Butch who actively want us silent and/or dead.

Yes Hazbin isn't good. But maybe it should be okay for queer media to be bad sometimes. Maybe it should be okay for queer people to not behave in perfectly acceptable ways sometimes. Criticizing her is fine, but don't act like she's some kind of supervillain when all she's doing is making something that isn't good. We can't keep cannibalizing our own creators like this.

[starrynights-sunnyskies]

as the flowers bloom, my heart does too ⋆*·ﾟmisa x putellas!femreader, social media au, (4/-)

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when your relationship ends and all you want to do is hide and cry, flowers suddenly start to appear on your doorstep.

or; misa hating to see a pretty girl cry and suffer and going out of her way to cheer her up while staying anonymous

fic: see my masterlist 🤍

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haleyraso vacay time!! 🌞

alexiaputellas Amigaaa! 🤩

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a/n have a lovely weekend everyone🌻

[buffkitties]

Thinking about how Komahina is literally canon.

People dismiss the fact that they canonically have a strictly romantic relationship because it's apparently not "obvious" enough, but for a game from 2012, it is actually rather clear.

I feel like people don't understand that media tends to portray queer relationships in more subtle ways as opposed to straight relationships because of the stigma surrounding gay characters. Danganronpa is not, and will not ever be, the only game to not outright come out and say that the characters are queer and that they are into each other.

Even if these details can be missed, I think it was mostly the localisation that didn't deliver the implications right because when you actually pay attention, they're basically confirming it without saying it.

In the original version, Komaeda blatantly flirts by saying things that are vague enough that they COULD be missed, but those who know will recognise the meaning. His confessions, worded in ways that wouldn't be understood unless you knew his characters to some degree, and the context for his words (EX. Chapter 3), would be misleading or telling you nothing. Chapter 4, he mentions their good chemistry and admits he cares.

Additionally, Hinata, too, gives us subtle signs that he finds him attractive. He speaks of a bond and meaningful relationship, and he constantly says that he would like to understand him better/be closer to him. It also goes as far as very vague answers or questions, such as the scene with Komaeda telling him he wouldn't mind if he just wanted to see him naked, and there being nothing except his little, "You don't mind..?" (Neither a confirmation, nor denial, just genuine wonder; curiosity; he wanted to know more, to prompt him on it).

Komaeda is just more obvious than him, but Hinata is aware of his advances, and he does spend time thinking about them.

For example, in his last free time event, when he walks away from Komaeda. He hears him speak, and even if he had already left, he listened to every word he said, then carefully considered them. He was most likely aware of what he meant, and even if somebody didn't know the actual words, it's still very hinted at in the English translation.

» "If he obtains the hope he desires, what will he do? Strangely enough... I feel like I want to see that." <- Referring to Komaeda speaking of the hope inside him; he implies that he would like to see Komaeda obtaining the hope... That Komaeda apparently was in love with (although that was just a panicked lie, and the English version messed it up). In other words, he wants Komaeda to have him, or whatever he said he likes about Hinata. The implication is still there, with or without the confession being messy.

Additionally, Komaeda is the first person Hinata meets, which points towards him being important to him, at least more than the others. He was the one to stay by his side when he needed it the most, and the one he trusted first; he was the first person he saw—and that is the person he still sees, even in the end, when he's resentful towards him: "If I'm a nobody, then... You should've just left me alone." -> Hinata, after Komaeda is already dead, remembering their first meeting with a feeling of bitterness in his heart because he couldn't handle Komaeda's death. It's another example where he feels abandoned by him, just like in the first trial, just this time, he goes as far as wishing he'd left earlier, right at the very beginning, rather than when he couldn't imagine him gone. And I say that because Komaeda is the only person he didn't expect to die—he'd experienced this before, finding a dead body, but it was never Komaeda, and he'd never felt so empty and in disbelief, and he was never angry at the person who had died, instead of the killer. Before they find out it's a suicide, he blames Komaeda, or rather, targets him with his anger like he was saying, "Why did you have to go and die on me? This wasn't meant to happen." And he imagines him there, during the trial, a lot: Things he'd say, things he'd do. He gets sensitive about their relationship being mentioned, and when implied to be friends, he gets snappy. He's very touchy about the subject of Komaeda, just like any other person grieving their loved one would be.

Komaeda is the one he trusted the most and believed in his abilities. He trusted his ability to stir the trial any way he wanted, he trusted that he was saying the truth, he trusted that he would be hiding something, he trusted that Komaeda would be difficult, he trusted that Komaeda would help him if he needed it, he trusted that Komaeda would give him hints, he trusted that Komaeda knew, he trusted that Komaeda would oppose him, and he trusted that Komaeda would bring him closer to the truth. Most of all, he trusted Komaeda with information, and he trusted the information he was provided, and he often didn't break that trust, especially when they whispered between each other, and kept the evidence to himself until the trial. He investigated with him. He gossiped with him. He bantered with him. He listened to him. He saw him—for worse, for better, for all that he was. He judged him, and he was annoyed with him. He didn't even like some of his traits, but he still loved him. He knew what to expect from him.

To love someone is to see them and not turn away. To love someone is to want to see them, and even if you're unable to, you're willing not to turn away and trust them. To love someone is to allow them to see you.

Because Komaeda saw him, too. He saw past talent, even though he was most likely aware of his lack of talent. Even if he didn't know, there was never anything to go off on. There was just Hinata, one who was neither talented nor untalented, just an unknown status. He was just Hinata Hajime.

And he saw the stubborness, and he saw his will and the pressure he was under. He saw his anxiety, he saw his fears, he saw his efforts, and he saw his abilities. He was there for him, and he was there when Hinata needed to grow. He was there to push him. He was there to distribute a flame enough to make him act, but never to burn him. He was there to give him confidence and to boost his will to live and do something for himself, rather than depending on others. He passively encouraged him, and he made him feel like it was just his own achievement rather than because he was there to push him. He forced him to have to believe in himself and to stick to his word, even if he was in a tough situation, and to fight for what he wanted—for what he thought was right. He forced him into a position where he needed to defend himself, but not in a way that would break him, unlike many others, who just wanted to win. Every time he opposed him, it was for a purpose, and he never had the desire to silence him, just to see him do his best. And he helped him fight, not out of desire to win, but to see the meaning in it.

To love someone is to guide them, even if it requires a push. To love someone is to be there for them, not coddle them.

And he, too, saw Hinata, just like Hinata saw him, for a person, not talent. They saw each other for who they really were, the people they knew and trusted with their lives.

[italianpersonwithashippersheart]

Hey bestie, dropping by with a mea culpa. When Peaceful Property started, you expressed concern that GMMTV was inching toward a model of using bl pairs in shows that would avoid being explicitly gay but still draw on shipping fandom to be successful. Coming off The Trainee, which was not a bl but did have expIicitly queer characters and romance subplots, I wasn't sure the intentions were quite that dark for PP, but having now finished it and seen the way some in the production have interacted with shipper fans, I have to call it: you were right to be concerned. At no point was this show ever a bl and none of its principal characters are canonically queer, but they successfully leveraged the TayNew ship to have fans interacting with it as if it was in fact a gay love story, that idea and fan commentary was explicitly encouraged by the creators, and the show has been quite successful despite never actually delivering on all the TayNew bait. I'm definitely concerned that we might have somehow swung back around to queerbaiting being seen as acceptable and good, as long as it features popular branded pairs. I don't have any bigger thoughts to offer about how this should be addressed, but just wanted to come back and say you were valid for naming that!

Thank you. I didn't want to be correct. And I am still hoping to wrong about what this says about where GMMTV is going.

But I am not gonna lie, seeing the posts about the finale did regnite the massive fury I had at this project when it was first called a bromance. So I am going to use your ask as an opportunity to vent.

FOR THE RECORD: I am not mad at you, or at the people and mutual on my dash that have enjoyed the show and are claiming as gay out of spite. My anger is at GMMTV and at GMMTV alone.

THEY DID THIS SHIT TWICE ALREADY!!! Back to fucking back.

I know High Schoool Frenemy is being watched by like 5 people on tumblr. But it's doing well outside of tumblr. They are using bl style fanservice with the 2 main boys of that show. I have seen the shippy content and compilations along with the other bl couples. Not to mention people like Jojo saying those characters are the his new favorite ship on twitter.

AND I AM SO PISSED!!!!

I am glad you brought up TayNew because there is no doubt in my mind that they used TayNew for Peaceful Property as a test. They knew there could be backlash. They knew the bl fandom could have rioted. But they also knew that if it that rage would have been directed at TayNew not at the director, not the company but TAYNEW.

And I think TayNew knew this. Because they spend weeks on social media doing preintive damage control, I have seen the posts of them (or at least New) saying it wasn't going to be romantic. I don't think the two of them forgot how they were left to eat the shit alone over the bullshit backlash during the TayGun kiss situation with GMMTV doing fuck all for them.

And what pisses me off is that BL audience didn't even give a backlash. They eat that shit up like it was fucking icecream.

The BL audience is literally doing their job for them. They are taking a show with some gay subtext and running with it.

They are showing up for the fanservice (again broder audience outside of tumblr), and gleefully closing their eyes and ears and saying well I Think It's Gay.

What do you think Mega Corporation GMMTV is going to take from the success and no backlash? If the answear is anything but: We can produce half of the BLs as usual and make the rest Bromances, you have more faith in corporations then I do.

Because Bromances can be watched by non BL audiences as well. The BL niche is a big one, but it is still a niche.

And now they won't even have to bother inserting arguable quality gay commentary or struggles or homophobia. Or any gay kissing, no more workshops. No more worries about how effective these potential straight boys are going to be at playing gay. All they have to do is making them do fanservice, and they are great at training people for that. Or better yet, actually use one or two ships that have kissed before and done actual BLs.

Will they stop doing BL at all, obviously not, you gotta give the BL audience something to remind them they can still show boys kissing, and we have the Ex Morning and Jojo that will never actually stop making BLs and some gay shit. But if in the next line up we will more bromances, and eventually we get half BL and half bromances I wouldn't be surprised.

Of course maybe I am just pessimistic and cynical. Maybe the proto bdsm in the heart killers is enough to persuade people that I am totally wrong. I guess we will see about that.

Thanks again for the ask and the oppurtunity to vent a little. Again I don't fault anyone for enjoying this, it was design to get the BL audience watching.

I will personally be keeping with my own resolution and never watch another gmmtv show live ever again, maybe binge the few that sound interesting and that's it.

At least I can find comfort in the idea that that other companies do not have the same level of BIG cast of boys and big budget to do the same thing and follow in the bromance trend.

[alltimefail]

Bylers I am once again begging you to watch Dead Boy Detectives on Netflix because these gay ghosts make me want to scream, cry, bite a brick in half I love them so much.

Listen listen listen just... PLEASE stay with me for a second:

See the boy on the left in the suspenders? That's Charles Rowland, and he died in 1989. Smalltown Boy (yes, SMALLTOWN BOY, I screamed too ofc) is on the playlist the actor made for him; Hozier's sappiest most yearny romantic songs (Like Real People Do, Francesca) are on his playlist too. Charles is a traumatized, passionate, kind, deeply complex little disaster loverboy and he means everything to me.

See the boy on the right with his sleeves rolled up? That is Edwin Payne, he died in 1916. He's a deeply repressed Edwardian boy who goes through one of the most insane and tear-jerking coming-of-age arcs in any piece of queer media to date. Every line he delivers ranges from the cuntiest, funniest, wittiest thing you've ever heard to the most comforting, affirming, heartwarming kindness and wisdom that feels like it came from the mouth of a damn angel.

They are both ghosts who've been running a detective agency together for 30 years, solving supernatural cases for people who died unjustly and/or without answers, thus having unfinished business, and the work is PERSONAL to them, okay?

If you listen to anything I say ever, if you take a show recommendation ever, let it be this:

WATCH THIS SHOW!! RUN AND WATCH THIS SHOW!

Trust me. It's made by LGBTQ+ people FOR LGBTQ+ people and I promise you will have a blast watching it and you'll fall in love with ALL these characters, too. (Not just Charles and Edwin, but ALL of them. I mean it, even the villains! The writing is SO GOOD.)

Pretty please I need friends who love Byler AND Payneland!!! This story changed my brain's chemistry and I promise it will move you as well!

That's all. I'm going to shut up now, but like... this show is everything to me. It changed my life. It lives in my soul and in my heart and I want to scream about it everywhere to everyone who will listen. Thank you if you read all this!

[pro-sipper]

I definitely agree with "fiction affects reality" in the sense it can introduce new ideas and concepts to an audience that never considered or heard of them. What I take issue from puritans drawing the conclusion of "oh so this means someone reading an incest fic will make them want to kiss their sister" is that they only ever think about how it can make someone do bad things but never positive things. In fact, if they think about how fiction can motivate someone to do good things, their argument would fall apart quickly when they realize how often this isn't the case in reality. There's so much popular fiction out there you can find radical, far-left themes inside of so if fiction really was this powerful mind control device that puritans act like it is, all the normies who watched stuff like Gundam or Squid Game or Chicken Run or Hunger Games would have become radicalized anti-war vegan anti-capitalists but they didn't. While there are people out there where that absolutely was the case, that was entirely on those peoples' own ability to see those themes and agree with them. You can also find bigots in fandoms for media with positively portrayed women, queer, and BIPOC characters. I could drag a raging homophobe into a movie theatre to see every action movie with a positively gay character in there, he's still going to walk out as a homophobe. The reality is, fiction can never make you learn something you refuse to learn.

...and people are absolutely not looking at ship art, reading AO3 smut, or playing morally bankrupt eroges with the intention to learn something, nor expect that these things were made with the purpose to educate.

Exactly!! Such a good point about how they only expect fiction to affect things on a 1:1 level if it's something negative.

I'm sure it's been said before but overall positive and light shows like My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic or Steven Universe have so many good messages that are delivered in an appropriate way for even kids to understand and yet their fandoms are notorious for being full of hate and arguing. If a show was all about the power of friendship and fiction affects reality so severely, surely their fandoms would be the happiest places on earth?? No? Maybe because that's not how things work...

Hopefully one days antis will understand. If they even want to at this point.

[centrally-unplanned]

I'ma explain the Stardew Valley fascism thing because I am bored and sometimes explaining obvious things is good for your brain. So the idea here is that "the simple country life" of farming, hanging out your small town neighbors, building an elaborate produce gift-based harem, and existing in perpetual tranquility with them is very appealing to fascist/reactionary aesthetics. Cosmopolitan urbanity is a disease, a blight upon society, sucking the spirit of the yeoman people out of their souls and blending it with degenerate races/liberals until they are too weak and dependent to fight the forces of globalism and they cope by being gay living in the pod. If the people could just return to the land, work by the sweat of their brow, they would have beautiful blond wives and their spirit/t-levels would soar to the heights God intended for us. Or whatever. So Stardew Valley is an indulgence of that fantasy by letting you reject urbanism, embrace tradition, and thus it has fascist aesthetics.

The problem here is A: what the fuck you are talking about, and also B: misunderstanding cause & effect. The appeal of farm life does not cause a fear of rootless jews queering your children outside of the most banal ways, the fears come first, the farming life is stapled on. Which you know, because everybody loves the farm life as a fantasy! Not in practice, obviously, which is why its a video game and not an agribusiness contract. But we all love the fantasy of a beautiful farm in the countryside, being one with the earth and baking rustic dinners in bronze kitchenware on hand-carved wooden tables. Since 90% of people don't take that fantasy and blame its lack of actualization in their lives on filthy immigrants, its probably not the causal factor in these things! People liking trees is not problematic because it has (virtually) no political implications without a ton of other context. Most people have more than one fantasy after all, often contradictory ones.

But if you are a political radical doing propaganda on the internet, its far more appealing to the audience (which includes yourself) if your vision is all-in, has the carrots and the sticks. For some the insane rush of a totalitarian world order wiping clean the slate of human society and re-ordering it according to your own mercurial whims is enough regardless of why, but for some (pathetic losers ofc) out there they need a little more juice, something concrete. So its married to reactionary aesthetics for the full picture, that this political order will deliver the farm life unto you. That works because, again "everybody" likes the farm life, that is way of broadening the appeal. But its neither the problem with the vision nor the cause of the political ideology. Some people who authentically like the farm life become farmers, you can just do that. Most don't, because they just wanna play a video game.

To clarify, what I am not saying is that the "reactionary aesthetics" are irrelevant and could be swapped out. My point is that instead they are universal. They are normally built out of uncontestably positive things. Those blond tradwives are hotties! Wheat is pretty and tastes good! You can't remove that from culture outside of being a fascist yourself. None of that makes fascism what it is, its all the other stuff. And when people make media out to be fascist, they are almost always bringing in from the outside 99% of the secret sauce. It is case by case of course, there is authentically authoritarian media out there. But in practice, 90%+ of these accusations are "Stardew Valley is fascist" level. Its a very silly debate to get drawn into.

[cornyonmains]

Just saw the news about fangirls on life support because Mile is dating a woman. Love it when people chase some of the best actors from the scene because they can't distinguish between fantasy and reality.

Guys, BL is a soft power for Thailand. Of course rich Thai families with good looking sons are going to have their fingers in that pie, and it means very little else save that they have good foresight. Mile entered BL, likely because his family saw a market releasing dogshit product and still posting numbers, realized they could inject cash and actual talent and make bank, and probably make good with their government in doing so. Mile is guilty of nothing save delivering the fantasy so well that people got lost in it.

People need to take a deep breath and let these men have personal lives. Women and queer audiences are historically under-served, and we're finally getting some media catering to our deranged tastes. And after years of aggressively straight male actors refusing to so much as move their mouths when they kiss, we're getting actors willing to take these roles seriously and create depth. And look, I get it, we went from a fucking desert right into an oasis, and nobody was there to tell us to drink slowly the first time. But we've had a few years, people should know how to act at this point.

Like honestly, how fast would people have their claws out if this was happening to female actors? Goddamn people, be the standard you want the world to set. Do you guys really want to go back to the days where the best we could get was SOTUS? Do you want to go back to the high fives? Because high fives are what you guys are gonna get if you don't learn how to act. We're not in a pandemic anymore. You won't be able to convince yourselves 2Gether was good again. Mark my words.

[toffeelemon]

Simon’s lack of media training is not an oversight

tldr; Simon is deliberately not media-trained (or protected, for that matter)

The Royal Court disregarding Simon’s safety or even the need to media train him - groom him to be the suitable royal partner is not only because they think this isn’t serious and that Wille and Simon would break up soon and not be worth the effort.

Hypothesis: they’re deliberately throwing Simon to the wolves to encourage him to leave on his own will.

The PR disasters sure might be a problem in the short run, but the Crown’s main audience to appeal to is royalists (and the ones on the fence). Singing about revolution doesn’t automatically infer Wille’s betrayal to his role - it only shows Simon’s unsuitability.

Ultimately they don’t care about bad press about Simon, because he will never be part of the Royal Family, nor do they want him to be. If Simon embarasses himself enough the entire nation would bully him out without the Royal Court having to do the dirty work themselves.

They don’t mind Simon being a public embarassment (to the Crown), despite verbally telling (Wille teling) Simon to lay low. If they care about protecting Simon’s reputation, there was no way they would have let Simon continue to travel by public transport with ample opportunity to be harrassed and provoked to make a statement or reaction.

If they didn’t want Simon to be ‘embarassing’, they would have either banned him from Wille’s birthday event, or meticulously groomed him to be suited, booted and briefed to be the perfect royal partner. But no - they’re happy for Simon to appear woefully unprepared and let all the press and public make their own conculsions.

No one thought to explain to Simon the unspoken rules - such as the poisoned cake - because up until now, (White and European) royalty has always married their own. (Sometimes literally within the family sksk). There was never a need to share this knowledge - this is assumed knowledge within the upper class, who are famously known for gatekeeping their little quirks so they can always tell who is an ‘imposter’ and maintain their class structure.

Simon being out of the loop is another way to exclude him - if he’s struggling to adapt, that just proves that he was never up for the role, up for the challenge. Definitely not because he’s not of the right class, race or gender.

Wille being the one given the responsibility to “control” Simon is to further drive them apart and shoo Simon away. Maybe Wille would even come to his senses and realise that this relationship is not worth the trouble. He is the best candidate to deliver the blow - because the Royal Court can’t force Simon out themselves, that’s Bad and Homophobic!

But well, if Simon can’t handle the pressure himself - hmm that’s just his luck. It’s not that the Crown Prince can’t be queer or date a ‘commoner’ - it’s just Simon who’s not good enough.

[denimbex1986]

'As David Tennant bursts back onto screens for Doctor Who‘s 60th anniversary, he’s also made his solidarity with the LGBTQ+ community clearer than ever.

The 52-year-old star features alongside former co-star Catherine Tate as Donna Noble in the trio of Doctor Who specials from returning showrunner Russell T Davies. The cast also includes trans Heartstopper actress Yasmin Finney as Donna’s daughter, Rose.

Finney’s prominent role in Saturday’s (25 November) episode “The Star Beast” sparked fierce reaction with LGBTQ+ fans praising the inclusion and bigots (as usual) sharing their fury.

Tennant’s three-episode run – which has already involved a heartfelt conversation around correct pronouns – kicks off a new era of Doctor Who which promises major LGBTQ+ talent as Ncuti Gatwa takes over as 15th Doctor this Christmas.

From Drag Race icon Jinkx Monsoon to musical theatre star Jonathan Groff, there’s plenty in store for queer fans.

Throughout it all Tennant has remained a steadfast ally, so here’s five times the acclaimed actor has showed up for the LGBTQ+ community throughout his career.

David Tennant making waves with trans Tardis pin

In the lead up to the Doctor Who 60th anniversary, Tennant appeared on The One Show and The Last Leg earlier this month where the Scottish actor was spotted wearing a trans flag themed TARDIS badge as a small act of solidarity with the trans community.

Naturally, fan praised the actor for his initiative, but the wholesome saga doesn’t end there. The badge creator, Dr Jamie Gallagher, soon announced on Twitter that over £18,000 had been raised in badge sales and all proceeds would be going towards LGBTQ+ homeless charity AKT.

Humbly reacting to the joyous news, Tennant later said while he couldn’t take “any credit”, the badge perfectly “suits what Doctor Who is all about”.

It’s not the first time Tennant has showed his support through the medium of pin badges. Earlier this year eagle-eyed fans spotted him wearing a non-binary Pride badge on shows such Saturday Night Takeaway, The Graham Norton Show and This Morning.

Unapologetically standing up for trans children

In July this year, Tennant took his pro-trans message one step further during the press run for Good Omens season two.

In a viral image, fans caught a glimpse of him sporting a black t-shirt with a crystal clear pink hued slogan emblazoned on top. “Leave trans kids alone, you absolute freaks”. We love to see it.

The top, which comes from online store Crooked, caused a stir online with many fans flocking to social media to share their joy. Around a similar time the TV star was spotted wearing (yet another) badge with the pride colours and the words: “You are safe with me.”

The pin badge managed to rile up anti-trans activists Posie Parker and Graham Linehan who launched separate attacks on Tennant, insinuating he is a pedophile and “groomer”.

But this hasn’t deterred Tennant, who continues to stand up for trans rights.

Delivering an emotional speech during Pride month

During Pride month this year, Tennant appeared on the Ed Miliband’s Reasons To Be Cheerful podcast where he praised the importance and joy of Pride month in modern day Britain.

“Do you know what’s making me cheerful at the moment? It’s Pride month,” he told the podcast.

“The fact that Pride Month is existing and is flourishing and is something that’s happening at a time when the world seems to be getting in some corners worryingly intolerant and weirdly backward.”

As usual his words impacted LGBTQ+ fans who shared that his powerful statement moved them to tears.

“We can’t take our foot off the gas,” the actor continued. “We can’t expect that we will always travel in the right direction towards acceptance. We’ve all got to be fighting that fight every day.”

It’s a message echoed by his wife Georgia, who shared her solidarity with the trans community in October after an attack by prime minister Rishi Sunak. “To the trans community, I stand with you now and always. I, like you, am going nowhere,” she said in a post on X.

Spreading the message of inclusivity in his TV series Good Omens

Doctor Who is not the only sci-fi, fantasy world Tennant has inhabited this year. After four years, Prime Video finally dropped the second season of Good Omens which sees Tennant playing demon Crowley opposite Michael Sheen’s angel Aziraphale.

In a wild turn of events, after huge fan speculation, Crowley and Azirphale made their romantic tension explicit after sharing a dramatic kiss at the end of the season.

Although fans will have to wait until the (still to be confirmed) third season to find out if the loved up couple will finally get their acts together, Tennant has no doubt about the importance of inclusivity in the series, which he spoke about during an interview with the RadioTimes podcast.

During the interview, he explained that the show delivers a message for “this fractious moment” in society that earth can be “quite a nice place to live”.

“That’s why this show connected with a certain group of people,” he continued. “There is an inclusivity to the world view of Good Omens, there’s a joy in celebrating whoever you happen to be.

“And that’s something [creator Neil Gaiman] is very keen to communicate: a message of kindness and openness. That is why the tone of Good Omens is positive, open, joyful and fun.”

Once an ally, always an ally

Tennant’s allyship hasn’t just started over the past year.

As far back as 2008, during his stint as the 10th Doctor, he hit back against the idea that dressing flamboyantly and being called “gay” is an insult during an interview with The Telegraph.

A few years later, in 2012, he showed his support for a Diversity Role Models campaign tackling homophobic bullying.

“It is essential that young people have the opportunity to meet role models from the LGBT community to help break down the stereotypes and prejudice that lead to bullying,” he said at the time.

A decade later, it’s no surprise David Tennant has consistently proven himself as an LGBTQ+ ally, through and through.'

[fiiiiin]

Excuse me, followers of other fandoms, as I wax poetic about Interview With The Vampire for a second.

I don’t even know where to begin. My thoughts are everywhere, but I really think that THIS show would be the result if every Hannibal fan’s dream about their favorite murder husbands came true. It’s like AU fanfiction that I read for other pairings, but instead of an indulgent author catering to our whims the way mainstream media often refuses to, this is actual big budget mainstream media doing what every fan has wanted for ages. Like I can barely believe this is a real show, with every person on board with how horny and gay and romantic and dysfunctional and indulgent it is. I was living out dreams that fan fiction has filled for ages, except this time I’m witnessing it in visual form on the television. And, I say this only as a theoretical, but IWTV is so immaculate in its delivering of a twisted gay love story that I don’t even feel the urge to read fanfic to fill in the void, because there is simply no void that needs filling (I am still reading the fics do not fret). Tender touches, pining and loving, an actual found family with two fathers and a daughter, so many kisses, messy love triangles and jealous and possessive behavior, utter desire between two leading men (and everyone else), fallouts and crawling back and groveling. Like I can’t make this shit up, it was all done for us in canon mainstream media form.

And this isn’t even accounting for all the elements that make this a great show from a technical standpoint. Production value, cast and chemistry (don’t even get me started on Jam Reiderson), narrative and narration and writing and pacing. It’s a very good show, and I don’t tend to get stuck into television shows like this (my primary fandoms are from film franchises, not TV).

And I guess it’s not the first of its kind; queer shows are happily becoming more and more mainstream, but something about this one ticks all my boxes and scratches that itch I never really got from shows like Hannibal, Our Flag Means Death, etc. That’s very much a matter of personal preference, but anyways. I’m very happy IWTV exists.

[hallowpen]

Thank you SO much for answering my question! (Not to sound like a broken record but it really does help understand the show more) I actually contemplated reading the novel because my friends said it was really good, but I opted to wait for the show (especially after how disappointed i ended up being with Dream) But also because I just like being surprised ya know?

With that said, im actually REALLY happy it was FB that ended up with this project. I feel like they’re the only pair that can truly deliver when it comes to the yearning & romantic aspect (and actually making it believable) I mean just now after the first ep I can already feel how connected their characters are. Also the child actors playing their younger counterparts are just fantastic! The little girl that plays Anin just absolutely nailed that scene where she’s consoling Pin and trying to make her laugh.

As for the MOC, even though i was excited they decided to back the series, ngl I was a little bit afraid at first that they were gonna tone everything down and make the story a super watered down version of the book…but no, they’re just letting things flow and im very pleasantly surprised by that. Thanks to their backing though, the cinematography is just on another lvl and the score?!? Omg I get goosebumps everytime I hear the main track from the OST. Gam Wichayanee (I think her name is?) has such an incredibly beautiful voice.

Anyways, im probably about to hit character limit and i’ve probably bored you at this point with my ranting lol Sorry, I just needed someone to be a fangirl with and gush about this show 😂

I’ll probably be back at some point after the second ep. airs to ask more questions (so I apologize in advance heheh)

Please... fangirl away. I've been similarly gushing to my friends about this series for months hehe

I understood the pause from the MOC getting involved... but why my faith in this series never wavered is because I trust Saint (IDOLfactory's CEO) and I knew he wouldn't compromise any of the important elements of the story just for money. He's been known to invest several million baht into his own series just to make sure the quality is to the standard he wants it be... and he would've done the same for TLP had he needed to. He said to hell with everyone's cautionary worries when he decided to produce GAP (he was being told from several sources, including potential investors, that GL was a losing bet and he shouldn't do it) because he knew how important sapphic media was to Thai queer audiences. AND HE WAS RIGHT!!! That series was being funded on a hope and a prayer... and without Saint (and FreenBecky), Thai GL as we know it today wouldn't exist on the scale that it does. Call me an IDOLfactory simp if you want, but it's not without merit 😂😂😂

I'm glad TLP ended up in the hands that it did... because we're only one episode in and everything about this series is just *chef's kiss*

[lurkingshan]

10 Things I Love About Cooking Crush Episode 11

It's not every day that a Thai bl delivers a classic Episode 11 DOOM episode that fills me with joy, so I feel compelled to celebrate everything this show did right in its penultimate chapter. A list of things I loved about this episode, in no particular order.

All the conflict was external. This is how you deliver drama and tension without messing up your core relationships--let them stand together against external forces! When Prem told Ten he wouldn't let him take the fall alone for punching Chang Ma because they're a team, I cheered.

Ten and Prem continue to be communication kings. The way these two talk to each other is just excellent. In any other drama, Ten finding that sticky note would have led to him hiding it, starting to doubt Prem's love, and crumbling in a crucial moment. Not in this show! Ten asked Prem directly what it was about, named that it hurt his feelings, but then listened to the explanation and forgave him. We love to see it.

Struggles aside, all the pairs are so happy. I love how consistently we saw joy from Ten, Prem, Fire, and Dynamite this episode. The friends all cheering for Ten and Prem getting together was fucking adorable, and Fy and My look so content. I’ve never seen Prem smile as big or as often as he did this week. The couples have fun together and they’re all good for each other.

The villains in this episode were calibrated just right. The school bullies and Chang Ma were just on the right side of the line in terms of being assholes but not so harsh or irredeemable that it feels out of sync with this show's light tone. Chang Ma did the right thing in the end by taking responsibility for his own inappropriate behavior and ensuring the Three Must-Eat-Ers could stay in the competition. The bullies will surely get their final comeuppance next week.

The conflict with Ten's dad was appropriately nuanced. I am no fan of that man, but he was making some valid points! He wasn't entirely wrong in what he said to Ten about resorting to violence, though like most parents he is being a hypocrite with selective memory (no sir, I have not forgotten you using physical violence against your own son). Their relationship is so tense, and he continues to antagonize Ten about Prem, so it's no wonder Ten could not receive it calmly. I appreciate that even though Ten didn't listen to him in the moment, he still came to the right conclusions about how to address his mistake.

Fire loved up on Dynamite on national television. Y'all, when I tell you I almost cried to see that expression of queer love and joy from a boy who has previously been so afraid, to a boy who has previously been so unloved. Their relationship is setting them both free, and I am looking forward to Fire finally looking his mother in the face next week and telling her who he is.

Smart use of social media in the cooking show subplot. I like it when dramas use netizens well to create conflict, and I thought the way the fans of the cooking competition reacted to all the drama rang true. I'm glad the trio is going into the final with some fan goodwill on their side.

Prem has really grown into his vulnerability. I love the way Prem was able to express his feelings to Ten multiple times in this episode, having honest talks, asking for support, and sharing his fears. And of course Ten was there to catch him every time he took the leap.

The friendships continue to matter. I love the way Ten and Prem's friends are so involved in every important plot of this show. That scene of them all discussing the cooking show drama together and deciding what they wanted to do was tops. This is a big queer friend group who takes care of each other and I love them, your honor.

Ten and Prem made out in the kitchen!! Listen, I am a mere mortal and I like it when couples in romances are actually into each other. I never would have guessed that this would be the show to deliver more kisses than all of Off/Gun's previous shows combined, but I am living for it.

[samd1o1]

Hey I don’t want to comment for real bc I’m sick of arguing with people on tumblr

I just wanted to say that in that post about deadpool and wolverine’s queerness, you are like 1000% in the right. Normally I don’t feel this strongly about stuff but anyone who thinks that Disney seriously and earnestly “delivered” on deadpool (and wolverine?) being queer is delusional

I mean, I love the movie. I’ve seen it twice and giggled my way through it both times. Obviously I enjoy the queer aspect of their relationship. But what you said about being able to be critical of your favorite media is important. The fact that people are arguing that there are no issues with the gay jokes in d&w but ACTUALLY it’s all indicative of a genuinely made film about two queer men is like actually SO crazy

Thank you, yes! The movie is absolutely amazing in the fact it's funny and well written. And yes I like the gay jokes, they're cheeky and enjoyable. But I think they'd be more enjoyable if any amount of Wade's (and also Logan's) queerness was taken seriously. Even just a little seriously.

I think the part that annoyed me about the movie most was Wade breaking up with Vanessa. Yeah it works for the movie and his character development. But at the same time I can't help but assume the reasoning for it was so queer people could go "hey they're both single, maybe just maybe Deadpool and Wolverine will get together?" No they won't this is Disney. He'll probably be back together with Vanessa eventually (even if it's not immediately).

Like I said on the comments of the post you're referring to; saying this is good queer rep is just an excuse so Disney (and Marvel) doesn't have to actually try to make good representation. The MCU has had many issues like this before. The single Loki bisexual conversation only for them to chicken out on the mlm ship they were hinting at in S2 promotions. Loki also being labeled as genderfluid in promo stuff just for him to be referred to as a male Loki and such. Characters who are canonically bisexual in the comics like Starlord showing absolutely zero hints to their queerness. Eternals is the only real representation I can think of, but it felt very one note and boring. Like that whole movie.

In conclusion Deadpool is a great movie but my biggest gripe is just that the queer aspect is not taking seriously. As much as I love the Honda Odyssey scene, it would be cool if it wasn't just a weird mix of coding/bait. Queer coding is still a great writing tool. Using metaphors for queerness in fantasy can be fun. But the reason queer coding existed in the first place is because you weren't allowed to show any queer people on screen. But times have changed! You can show it, but Disney are cowards. The movie is also queerbaity as they set up things like Vanessa's break up only to start them almost back up again with Logan himself telling Wade to go for the girl. Not to mention all the promotional posters like Deadpool and Wolverine as Beauty And The Beast. Disneyland Deadpool is also being VERY heavy on the gay jokes, which makes me feel like they KNOW who their main target audience was gonna be with this movie, but they still need to cater to the movie dudebros as well. Maybe one day guys, maybe.

It's important to be critical of even your favorite media. If you weren't then it could never improve. Let your voices be heard! And to the people who think movies don't deserve such debate; why do you think that? So many people say that so they don't have to discuss representation in media but then turn around and rant about the comic accuracy. Also what do you think happens in a writers room? Criticism is important in media even to professionals. A movie is a group effort, many people had different ideas that eventually came together and made Deadpool 3. They also probably had many ideas that were shut down and not put in Deadpool 3 for various reasons. Some most likely being criticisms.

Ok I'm done ranting now. Deadpool 3, great movie, one of my favorites. But it would have benefited not only itself by being true to Wade and Logan letting them be their authentic queer selves; But it also would have benefited the queer community.