#to buck and his sexuality
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I would also just like to take a chance to say that, while I didn’t like Oliver’s approach or answer either, to me, it’s not coming from a place of biphobia. I think he made a mistake, and it came across poorly and at a bad time. He’s proven since that first kiss that he cares deeply about Buck’s sexuality — from the start, when he took to his Instagram stories to tell off people who were being rude about it, to recently, with his polite and specific correction to the interviewer who said Buck’s sexuality had changed — and about Buck as a whole. I have my own feelings about the breakup, about how things have been handled, and all of it. But I’ve been seeing more people say that he doesn’t actually care, or never did, and of course I don’t begrudge anyone their anger or sadness or frustration. But personally, this flub does not make me rescind my appreciation for his work.
#I was specific in my other post that Oliver has paid a lot of attention to what’s been said and how it’s talked about at least when it comes#to buck and his sexuality#yes the answer made me feel weird especially in its approach or energy. but I truly don’t feel that it was malicious#obligatory hi I’m a queer I’m a bi so don’t tell me I don’t know what biphobia is or whatever#this is my opinion. I feel like he flubbed. and that happens. it’s going to happen.#doesn’t make me like it. but it also doesn’t make me hate him and negate the care I’ve seen him give#send post I guess.#Oliver stark#911#evan buckley#bisexual evan buckley
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Oliver Stark about the negativity concerning Buck's bisexuality
#oliver stark#oliverstarkedit#911#911edit#911 abc#*#alielook#911verse#userabs#tuserzee#usernicolo#mialook#usersaoirse#tuserlou#bigassbowlingballhead#911 cast#usergay#lgbtedit#tagging those last two bc he's talking explicitly about buck and his sexuality
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people will cry about representation for years and years and then say the most blatantly homophobic things about canon queer characters for no reason
#people who think tommy is toxic or weird in that dinner scene.... buck was flirting with him. in his home. where they are having a date.#oh lord not tommy alluding to his sexuality ON A DATE. WITH HIS BF. totally scandalous. wow.#911#911 abc#911 fox#bea.txt
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most of the time i don’t even think it’s worth engaging with this stuff because it’s stupid and continues to illustrate a lack of understanding about. stories and fiction and such. but like. the new Thing from people who don’t like eddie or buddie or whatever is being like “eddie stans care about a sexuality arc more than anything else! it’s always about eddie’s sexuality! there are other things to explore!” and the thing is that yeah, i’m sure there are people who are only interested in him being gay (which is fine?) and yeah, obviously there are other things. but like. the thing that people forget in a myriad of ways is that eddie is not buck. for a character like eddie, defined by lifelong expectations and repression and a very specific struggle with the idea of Family, the symbolism of his sexuality holds a lot more weight than the just the fact of his attraction to men (in his STORY, not in-universe!). this is not to say that buck can’t or doesn’t have complex feelings about his bisexuality, but insofar as his actual character arc, his coming out doesn’t actually touch much on a lot of the things he’s been reckoning with as a character: what his purpose is, his parental trauma and abandonment issues, his struggle to actually recognize his wants, his pathological need to please. but for eddie, coming out could and would involve a lot of that specific character growth: reckoning with the expectations everyone has always had for him, being able to self-discover, accepting and putting his wants and needs first for once rather than repressing them, rethinking what a family might look like and his place in it, maybe understanding some of his own mistakes, and continuing to be the best version of himself for his son. like yes he will also be into men and into buck specifically but this is all eddie’s specific baggage; his sexuality is a representation of his Whole Self, rather than the repressed self that caused him and the people around him pain. that’s why it’s so important to eddie understanders to see it 🫶🏽
#i am sorry you will never get a tommy begins but that’s not my fault#i have other thoughts about buck. i think we will come back to his feelings about his sexuality ifwhen he has a feelings realization#911 txt
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this post is only for the select few but sometimes i think about bucktommy going to a gay club and buck dancing and making out with other guys while tommy watches them and he's totally absolutely completely turned on by the fact that he's being watched while tommy's turned on by the knowledge that at the end of the night - at the end of every night - he's the one who buck will go home with anyway
#this is how buck exploring his sexuality with other guys can still win#can someone who's better at writing smut than me write this for me pls#bucktommy#911#mimi.txt
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the way i would pay for oliver to write meta about buck's character
#like. he Gets it. i've been thinking about buck in this ep for five days straight and he said it better in one sentence than any paragraph#i could ever come up with#people are arguing over whether buck#acted the way he did bc he wanted tommy's attention or eddie's attention or bc he was feeling left out or whatever but i don't think it's#any one thing i think it was just a general feeling of Wrongness when tommy showed up borne from thirty years of repressing his sexuality#and he tried to rationalize it as jealousy or whatever and worked through the fact that his behavior was completely unreasonable but#it wasn't until tommy kissed him that all of the rage that was trapped inside him was allowed to escape bc he finally had a name for it#he's been turning over parts of himself for years trying to find that final piece and getting more and more upset when it eludes him#n this kiss was the kind of cathartic relief that he so desperately needed bc it allowed him to understand what's been missing#anyway. oliver stark i love you so much i'm so grateful you play buck#buck#rae.txt#911
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thinking about why Tommy didn't reach back out to Buck after the tour, and what I've landed on is this: Tommy was thinking about it from a potential romance/date scenario from the get-go and thought the ball was in Buck's court.
at this point, Tommy has no idea that Buck believes he's straight; all he knows is that Buck called him up for a tour, but he doesn't know why - he even asks Buck about it twice, and Buck can't really articulate an answer (because he doesn't know the real why himself). but Buck seems into him - he's flirting, Tommy's testing the waters and flirting back and he's getting a good response, so he drops the flying lessons invitation. and then the cute guy asks him out for a beer! hey, this is great, except for the plans he's already had and isn't going to bail on. but Tommy's thinking, hey, Buck's got his number so he'll reach out if he's still interested.
and then he doesn't reach out! so Tommy thinks, okay, maybe he wasn't interested after all, a little disappointing but it's fine, even if Buck's not into him he's still made a new friend in Eddie. then basketball happens, and it's a group activity and Tommy has no idea Buck is there for him specifically, that Buck doesn't even like basketball.
when Tommy goes to have the conversation with Buck - it's only during the conversation that he realizes, I was right all along, this guy is into me and I'm into him, and I'm not letting another opportunity with him pass by. so he shoots his shot and it's a unqualified success - Buck kisses him back and agrees to a dinner date. everything's coming up Tommy
#evan buckley#tommy kinard#bucktommy#911 abc#and then it's ONLY on the date that Tommy finds out Buck had no clue about his sexuality#I think he realized Buck was nervous but chalked it up to that being his personality#and it was only after the ally! comment when Tommy goes ooooh#and Buck's actions really click into place for him#smoke.txt
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Tommy steps into his quiet house alone.
His keys jingle as he drops them in the dish by the door. The sound doesn't so much break the silence as punctuate it. He makes his way to the kitchen in the dark.
The light in the fridge is too bright in his eyes and he's quick to grab the brita pitcher. Dots dance in his vision as his hands dance the familiar routine of cupboard-glass-pill-drink-swallow. He sets his glass down in the sink. It's empty, otherwise; in his pre-date jitters, when he'd thought there was a chance he wouldn't be coming home alone, he'd emptied the dirty dishes into the dishwasher. So much for that.
He doesn't need light as he navigates to his bedroom. It's the same old choreography: dumping his clothes in the hamper, brushing his teeth, crawling into bed. When he plugs in his phone, the screen flares to life. It's barely 11. It had been nice, for a while, living in a world where this time was different. He settles in bed and settles back into the white-noise static he's been living in for years now.
And then, a week later, he gets a text:
hey, id like to talk. can we get coffee?
#rose.txt#bucktommy#my fic#it'll be ok tommy buck just needs to speedrun his sexuality crisis real quick#just give him a minute
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people act like tommy leaving the date is the worst crime to ever exist and forget that buck is a whole ass adult who can take care of himself
#yeah he's coming to terms with who he is / his identity etc etc#but tommy isn't responsible for that#he hardly knows buck#tommy has his own peace to protect and if he doesnt want to be involved with someone who doesn't understand their feelings yet then he is -#100% within his right to do that#it doesn't make him some awful human being#it makes him an emotionally mature adult who is looking after his own wellbeing and in turn looking after bucks#don't think people realise that tommy giving buck some space to breathe by leaving the date and EXPLAINING to buck why he is leaving#was actually the catalyst for buck speaking to maddie and eddie and thus beginning to work things out for himself#but alas#i forget that a large portion of “fans” don't know how to behave like adults#and have blinkers on when it comes to buck and what they want to see#it's giving uwu little bi baby buck needs to be babied#no babes he's an adult#yes it's rough coming out / figuring out your sexuality in later life of course#but he is also an adult and has a large support network around him#he's okay girls#911#bucktommy
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"Eddie is bi!" "Eddie is gay!" sorry but I'm team Eddie "I don't know what I am, but I know I love Buck" Diaz
#eddie diaz#buddie#and maybe from there exploring identity#but i still think its gonna be bi realizes his sexuality first and eddie realizes he loves buck first
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excuse me mr. stark i was not familiar with your game
#i probably won't restart watching the show but i liked this interview a lot#he also points out that there have always been gay characters and buck isn't even the first one to#learn more about his sexuality as an adult#thank you king for citing the textual record......#personal nonsense#obsessed with him for saying this though god bless
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am i the only one who doesn’t like the eddie x priest trend going around???
i fully believe that would just ruin the buck/eddie situation. like, yeah i understand that buck dated tommy first so it’s only fair that eddie gets to date someone else too.
but on a real note- it’s always been understood (at least on my tumblr feed) that this is how the buddie dynamic works.
buck needs to realize his sexuality before he realizes he’s in love with eddie. eddie needs to realize he’s in love with buck before he can realize his sexuality.
if eddie learns he’s not straight because of a crush/date/hookup with the priest- then we’re just in a never ending loop of “these two idiots” just constantly missing each other.
#i can see why the writers would make it happen to extend the shows plot#but realistically#i think eddie and the priest is a bad idea#i’m okay with the priest being the one to say huh this buck guy seems awfully important to you#and to have him be the one to help eddie learn his sexuality that way#but don’t romanticize them#i also seriously believe that if there was another ship to love then this fandom would just be fucked#we’re barely surviving buddie vs bummy#we don’t need buddie vs bummy vs preddie#that would just kill this fandom#eddie diaz#evan buckley#911 on abc#911 buddie#buck and eddie#oliver stark#ryan guzman#911 abc
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no but like. i’m just reflecting on it since that ep. what if they really DID do neurodivergent buck. like how insane would that be. actually cannot explain how much that would mean and like i have no expectation but equally that was the most canon confirmation we’ve ever had. like. idk
#911 on abc#adhd buck#evan buckley#like as an autistic queer adult#seeing a queer man not only discovering his sexuality but then learning more about himself#through his neurodivergence as well??#like i fear i would cry ever so hard wow
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i LOVE Bucks female love interests. were many of them used as plot devices and not fleshed out enough? yes. but do i still love and appreciate them? yes! I love Buddie, but don’t hate a female character just bc she “gets in the way” of a gay ship!
(same with Eddies girlfriends & Shannon!!)
#i ALWAYS hated that#taylor kelly#taylor kelly ily#buddie#911 abc#i just simply don’t like t0mmy bc of his past remarks and how he went abt treated buck and the whole calling him “kid” thing#if he was with any other man i’d be sad ofc abt him not being w eddie#BUT bucks sexuality has nothing to do w his partner and everything to do with him as a character#i also wouldn’t hate on a character if they haven’t done anything wrong! (like bucks female love interests)#<3 okay that’s all#ana flores#i loved ana so much she deserves the world#evan buckley#eddie diaz
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When Lena confronts Eddie in Malfunction, because Eddie says, "I thought we were friends," and Lena is like "I know all this shit you're going through, like your dead wife and your kid, and you don't even know if I have a cat or not," but this whole time Eddie is hiding what he's going through and how he's feeling from Buck........this is something, right? Something about how he can't bring himself to open up to Buck because he's afraid of what that vulnerability might lead to, versus dumping it all on a near stranger who he doesn't have to worry will actually try to care too much about him.
#buddie#911 show#i could write a whole essay about all the things they DON'T talk about and actually NEVER talk about#in this arc alone....did buck even know shannon wanted a divorce? does he know about chris's nightmares?#and then similar things happen in season 5 when eddie leaves and in season 6 with the sperm donor arc#and then season 7 is the first time we see either of them freak out because they realize they SHOULDN'T have hidden something....#and it's buck freaking out that he feels he lied to eddie about his sexuality#AM I MAKING SENSE? AM I CRAZY? I FEEL CRAZY
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my theory after a few days of thinking is that this is a temporary breakup, tommy will be back in 8b
that's the only way anything in 8x05 makes sense, especially the last scene at the cemetery, why film it like that if tommy isn't coming back?
#911#911 speculation#911 spoilers#bucktommy#evan buckley#tommy kinard#let's be delusional for a while at least#maybe they're just giving buck 4-8 episodes to figure out his sexuality outside of tommy#then he's coming back?#because 8x05 was filmed after 8x06#so this is a weird thing to include if it's permanent#or maybe something changed bts after filming and now it's permanent even if it was planned as temporary?
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