#tmagp Trevor Herbert

[thermodynamic-comedian]

i just know lena "please don't tell me about your personal life" kelley was giving trevor the world's most pointed side-eye when he described the oiar crew as "diverse"

[s1i9d]

I hope you don't mind, but now that I've finally found someone who's listening to Magnus Protocol but hasn't listened to Magnus Archives I will be studying you like a bug under a magnifying glass. I've been dying to know how the show hits from a non archives perspective. So in that vein, if you don't mind me questioning you, what are your overall thoughts on the show so far? Also what's it like seeing the fandom response from people who have listened to archives? Have you been successful in avoiding spoilers?

Honestly I’ve been loving Protocol.

I’m not 100% sure what to translate since I don’t know what Archives context I’m missing, but I can try to tell you what I really like about Protocol.

I really do love the format of Protocol. It’s mostly an office drama story, which on its own is appealing, but the statements from FR3-D1 put in each episode gives the story this underlying horror aspect to it. So when I listen to an episode, often times if the statement portion feels lacking, the office drama really brings up the episode and the vice versa.

Then things start to get a lot more creepier when the two intersect (The Magnus Institute, Mr. Bonzo, Lady Mowbray, the Drowning Victim, the Archivist, etc.) and by this point in the story, we’re so close to having a full merge.

Since this is my first real dive into horror podcasts, I do want to engage with the fan community, but it’s hard to balance being spoiler-free at the same time. I do know some general spoilers that I haven’t updated in a while, but is mostly still accurate. I don’t know what an Archivist is, but I am aware that AU versions of Archives characters have made their debut here.

I am aware that Protocol is going a lot faster than Archives. From what I understand of Archives, it has a lot more slow build up rather than Protocol which I has a pretty good pace. Might be because Protocol has less than half the episodes as Archives.

It’s really interesting how the fandom keeps losing their minds over stuff that I’m just like “yeah cool let’s see where that goes”. Like E26 where the Archivist was named, I felt like I took on the perspective of Alice/Gwen/Sam where I’m like “okay… and this means what?” while the rest of the fandom is taking the Celia perspective of “OH NO”.

Or even this recent episode where this Minister Trevor Herbert dude was. Like I have no idea what this dude is and why everyone is absolutely screaming, crying, throwing up that he’s here, and that is fascinating.

It’s been pretty interesting when I bring up something that felt weird or off that just went nowhere, and my friends revealing some info. I’m like “WHAT” and they’re just like “oh thats not common knowledge?” And I’m just there like “huh?!?” Which turns out, the Hilltop Centre was actually important.

I mostly wish the fandom would tag archives spoilers with #tma /#the Magnus archives / #tma vague just so that spoilers could be tagged a little bit better, but to be fair I am one of the rare people that doesn’t intersect the Venn diagram between archives and protocol.

But overall, I really am loving Protocol. I don’t know when I’ll listen to Archives (probably after Protocol’s three seasons are over) but I will listen to it eventually. Feel free to send more asks my way.

[1000fingers]

i know i havent posted abt the s1 finale and obviously it was insane im a celia apologist forever etc but. may i ask one more time.

why the

FUCK

is the MP

TREVOR FUCKING HERBERT

[vieramars]

So this was how Trevor ran his election campaign, right?

[supersonicgrandma]

Lena, frantically trying to make the office nice for god damn Trevor Herbert, Vampire Hunter

[mita-vittua-olivia]

WDYM HES THE MINISTER

[buk-kakyoin]

Gwendolyn Bouchard, a bourgeois-encrusted dumbass who glimmers like an orphan's last penny every time she's congratulated for being shat out of the sky with a silver spoon in her mouth, is one of my favorite characters in TMAGP so far. Not necessarily because she's relatable or because I'm rooting for her(although I am rooting for her to get her shit together), but because she's such a good example of people like her. People who will stop at nothing to get whatever the hell they want, buoyed only by the assurance that they are the "right kind" of person to have it by pedigree, whether they truly understand the full scope of what they're getting or not. People who, furthermore, cannot fathom that trusting an authority figure like the Minister is probably a worse fucking choice over Lena by a mile, even if Lena is doing terrible things. Like, Gwen just tattled on Lena to Trevor Fuckwit Herbert, Minister to Shithead Affairs and Nefarious Governmental Misdeeds, a guy meant to oversee a department that contracts murderous supernatural creatures to do murderous supernatural jobs, and if it turns out Lena is on some Gertrude shit trying to resteict the OIAR's functionality and is the only thing keeping Mr. Bonzo from using Gwen like a teething ring, I'm going to lose my absolute goddamn mind. I love her so much.

[hell0jon]

Yeah Jon and Martin would be around 50 years old in this universe if they weren’t dead

Yeah Basira is a teacher in this universe

Yeah Georgie is paranoid in this universe

BUT TREVOR IS RICH??? NUH UH

[the-voldsoy]

[brettanomycroft]

lest we forget, Trevor Herbert is the minister who, in the very first episode, Colin threatened to FLOSS from the INSIDE using a CABLE because Herbert, apparently, wants an app.

[starsandwriting]

I can't believe we saved basira from the cops but lost trevor to the fucking politicians

[protocolmemaybe]

I can’t stop thinking about how Lena’s main priority was Trevor Herbert MP visiting, and how quickly everything went to shit right after

[s1i9d]

As a non-Archives listener, this is what I’ve gathered.

Archives Fandom, aggressively shaking and sobbing: What are you doing in my house?!? What are you doing in my house?!?

Trevor Herbert, delightful autism pose: I Want Waffle Fries.

[magnus-glitch-archive]

The Magnus Protocol Episode 30

Colin: “Yeah.” Responding to Alice’s suggestion that she’ll come by the next morning to talk.

Colin: “Sure.” Again in response to Alice’s suggestion.

Gwen: “Not at all.” When questioned if Lena made a scene before she left.

Trevor: “I’m sure you’ll do a fine job” After congratulating Gwen on getting Lena’s job.

[james-spooky]

we’ve only seen trevor herbert as a chaotic vampire killing arsonist like the switch up to government official is gonna be so damn funny 😭

[transrevolutions]

okay hear me out. what if 'trevor herbert' is jonah magnus. what then.

all the tmagp-versions of tma characters we've seen can honestly, in my opinion, be feasible variations of their tma selves. yes, even gerry. he seems very different, but iirc in a qna it was stated that gerry's the sort of person who genuinely does believe in goodness and the like, it just got stamped out of him by growing up with mary and the fears. so in a universe where that wasn't the case, I can totally see him being cheerful and friendly.

trevor, on the other hand, feels fundamentally wrong. especially given his profession. all the tmagp-tma crossover characters (that we've met! I'm not counting the maybe-jon and maybe-martin because we don't even know if they're the same people!) have jobs that align with their tma selves. basira goes from being a cop to being a school administrator- both positions of authority/control. helen is still a swanky tory real estate agent. gerry is an artist, and it's mentioned he painted in tma as well. georgie does a podcast. gertrude has a mysterious past, and it's implied she was connected to the institute at some point.

but trevor goes from being a homeless monster hunter to.... a member of parliment who drives a bentley? there's no connection there. and he doesn't act like tma trevor in any way either! there's no dedication to hunting about him, even in the metaphorical sense. if anything, he "prefers a hands-off approach" as of episode 30. trevor herbert in tma was the polar opposite of that, one of the most 'hands on' characters in the series. but who else has a penchant for watching without interfering until something actually threatens his vision?

would it be too much of a stretch to posit that jonah, weakened from his institute's destruction, ends up posessing the first body he can get his hands on, steering this new alter ego towards a government position of authority, then to monitoring the OIAR, so similar yet so different from the institute he failed to preserve? what if, when he says gwendolyn bouchard has "quality", he's not just talking about her heritage? what if he's starting to look for his next mark?

anyways, I found an interesting little detail while rereading some transcripts. in the magnus protocol, the first mention of both (presumably) jonah magnus and trevor herbert, MP is in episode 27: driven. before that, they were not named, and trevor was referred to just as "the minister".

now that's a fun little coincidence as it is, but if we return to tma, we notice that trevor's first statement is in episode 10: vampire killer. and elias/jonah's first actual appearance (outside of jon referencing that he's his boss) is in episode 17: the boneturner's tale. 10 + 17 = 27.

WHICH COULD MEAN NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!