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I support Will Graham’s right’s AND I support Will Graham’s wrongs
#hannibal#hannibal nbc#hannibal lecter#this is what Hannibal says about will#he supports his murder husband#will Graham is so baby girl#will Graham is a gender#will Graham is THE gender#murder husbands#Will Graham#will Graham is evil#will Graham is feral#will Graham has literally never done anything wrong#free my man#he did it but idc
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does anyone realize how crazy it is to have the actor of a mostly headcanoned queer ship say the fans were never crazy and they were right all along after 10+ years of everyone just absolutely going nuts over the said queerbaited ship
#supernatural#dean winchester#spn#destiel#castiel#deancas#misha collins#im 20 i have been Experiencing supernatural and johnlock since i was 12 and merthur since wayy before that i have fought Wars#this is crazy#i love u hannibal i love u 911 (if u make eddie gay)#for the love of god by 'mostly headcanoned' i dont mean that it was never intentional#i am aware that they put the subtext in on purpose#they knew what they were doing#but my focus here is on the actor actually saying it because like#if its not mostly headcanoned then y was the entire cast denying it for years AND YEARS#like do yall not remember what jared and jenesn used to say#there have been many many many instances where the cast has made us feel crazy/stupid for saying anything abt destiel#im just saying TO ME its crazy that actors and creators talk so openly about these things now !!! again i was raised on merlin and sherlock#ok also im confused on the queerbaiting part#everyones saying its queer coding and not queer baiting but cant they be true at the same time ?#im not being dumb on purpose i swear im just confused#like yes dean is very much bi coded and their relationship is queer coded but if the creators deny everything#and we only get a last minute confession after 11 years#that doesnt count as queer baiting ?#someone smart explain this to me 🙏
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sexy old men are one thing. sexy old MURDEROUS men however.......
#hannibal#doomhead#michael myers#albert wesker#slasher#horror#slasher x reader#slashers#horror movies#dare i say john kramer#saw 2004#karl heisenberg#otis driftwood#foxy coltrane#captain spaulding#yes i think he's sexy and what about it#ash williams#rick grimes#negan smith#daryl dixon#twd#the walking dead#rusty nail#horror movie
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suddenly recalling the time i described a relationship dynamic as "he really did love her, is the thing, but he loved her like a scalpel (penetrating exposing severing)". idk why i'm still out here writing things when we are never topping that.
#🐉#i wish i could say it was about a relationship im not even that invested in but it was. is the thing.#anyway now you know what i mean when i say i 'ship' something. i mean shit that makes me talk like this.#(ie: an nbc hannibal character)#(or that one will wood song. hold me like a tourniquet! and ill you like an iron maiden!)
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⋆ ˚。⋆୨♡୧⋆ ˚。⋆hannibal nbc as littlest pet shops⋆ ˚。⋆୨♡୧⋆ ˚。⋆
#i think chilton could be controversial but hear me out!! this is based on that one post about him being like an annoying puppy#and i just love him so much he's my babygirl what can i say??#i could've put m*son as a pig but they're too cute to be compared with him#hannibal nbc#littlest pet shop#littlest pet shops#lps#will graham#hannibal lecter#abigail hobbs#margot verger#alana bloom#francis dolarhyde#reba mcclane#jack crawford#beverly katz#frederick chilton#freddy lounds#bedelia du maurier#i know there's a few missing like chiyoh jimmy and zeller but i can't come up with one for them yet so maybe i'll do a part 2#nbc hannibal#my post ♡
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me: i should start watching something new!
also me:
#AGAIN AGAIN AGAIN#never too many rewatches#ugh season one dynamic is just so sexy#i love them all but#season one hits soooo hard#will’s faith and trust in hannibal#HIM THINKING HANNIBALS BEING HIS PADDLE WHILST HANNIBAL IS#in denial about his big fat crush and continues to set will up for framing#season one where hannibal holds all the cards vs season two where will betrays him#yeah idk what i’m saying anymore#hannibal nbc#will graham#hannibal lecter#hannigram
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Will occasionally visits a woman he trauma bonds with at the hospital during his stay; tells her she's pretty during one of their conversations. Hannibal gives that woman a comb that she can use to brush her hair to make herself look prettier; with which can also form static inside the chamber she's in, causing fire inside that chamber, burning her to the point where she is no longer recognizable. Good work Hannibal, i fucking hate you btw
#nbc hannibal#hannibal#will graham#hannibal lecter#georgia madchen#im not saying Will's compliment is what made Hannibal kill Georgia Madchen#but it seems silly for him to kill her that way#and kill her immediately when she hasn't even recovered her memories??#idk#but this would insinuate that he can hear their conversation#what if he's behind the door at that time#he did say the nurses told him that Will had been wandering in the hospital#i dont think the nurses would care that much about Will's activities
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Honestly the first scene In Hannibal that I was left thinking “are they actually about to kiss??” Was in season 2, episode 7 when Will holds Hannibal at gun point. I could not stop imagining will dropping the gun, slamming Hannibal into the wall like he was gonna kill him but just smashing their faces together instead. Raw, angry, messy. Then I think he would just push away and walk out. the rest of the show would carry on like normal and will would ignore it.
Until the cliff scene when they kiss again
The sexual tension between me and the man holding a gun to my head
#if I could add a kiss to any part of hannibal I would only add two#this scene#and the final scene#some would say#what about mizumono??#but honestly I think it’s tender enough as is. I think its perfect.#BUT THIS??#the anger#the confusion#the grief#as Will mourns the loss of who he thought hannibal was#and a kiss#a kiss that is then immediately ignored by one will graham#I think it would be perfect#hannibal#will graham#nbc hannibal#hannibal lecter#hannigram#hugh dancy#mads mikkelsen
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NBC Hannibal fans being very misogynistic about Clarice and Hannibal is really fucking funny considering misogyny is what Clarice has to deal with the whole book and half the plot is her dealing with it
#self rambles#hannibal#clarice starling#clannibal#hannibal and will#will graham#like u guys are chill#but also why are we saying the age gap is worse than Will and Hannibal#that’s actually weird#im a big nbc Hannibal fan#what’s weirder is me talking about ship discourse at the ripe age of 20#but also I want to dig through the tag without half of the fandom being annoying
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rewatching the first episode of Hannibal and holy shit I forgot how good this is but it's actually insane that Brian fuller set up the ep like this, he introduces will and Hannibal by first briefly showing them at their core, at the darkest, most vile part of them---we get a glimpse behind the curtain---and then its gone, the curtain is snapped shut and we see their masks, their human suits.
Will empathizes with killers because he likes it, and he wants to kill but he refuses to give into the urge because he knows how much he'll like it and he won't be able to stop. So he lives vicariously through other killers, satisfying his own dark urge by feeding it little morsels of secondhand blood lust. Every crime scene he works gives the urge something that satisfies it, not enough for it to grow, but enough for it be sate. Enough that he can ignore it for long enough that he can walk around and be Professor Will Graham who is Weird, Brash, and Non-sociable.
And Hannibal is a cannibal at night and a psychiatrist by morning.
#hannibal#hannigram#hanniblogging#hannigram brainrot is real#also ive watched the entirety of hannibal like four times and everytime i watch it i still find stuff to lose my mind over#brian fuller the brain that you have#winston my beloved#also plzzzz the way hannibal was just gonna kill jack with like no hesitation#AND the way hannibal was fucking smitten from the moment he spoke to will#like wills all like i hate eye contract its distracting as hell and hannibal is just looking at him like 😍😍😍#plss you are embarrassing yourself#also question#when will was like how do you see me and hannibal said that shit about the mongoose and the snakes and will just looks at him like ????#do yall think he was confused because he was genuinely like dude what the actual fuck are you saying#or because he understood it#and the woman at hobbs' work being like two guys from the fbi#and neither of them are technically from the fbi#just two insane dudes having a first date by larping an active fbi investigation#omg and when will shoots hobbs he realizes that oh fuck this is my chance this is my chance to kill and finally satisfy that dark urge#so after he shoots him once he just keeps shooting shooting shooting till its impossible for hobbs to survive for hobbs to be dead#till it was will that killed him
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Sometimes I think about Louise Hobbs for too long and start going a little crazy.
Garret Jacob gets all the attention on the show. Abigail gets it from fandom. The absence of Louise is almost invisible. She’s not there. We don’t think about her.
We don’t think about her, of course, because she’s not in canon in the first place. She has no lines. Her name is not mentioned in dialogue. She only barely appears on camera.
Here is Louise Hobbs alive and well. Striking about this bit, once I was looking at it: she doesn’t look towards the camera, she doesn’t look towards her family members, and her family doesn’t look towards her. They move around one another and don’t directly interact. Look at it: Abigail and Garret Jacob Hobbs are communicating, here, in a way that she’s entirely cut off from.
(And, ok, listen, I’ve gotta sidebar. Even before Abigail actually picks up the phone, GJH is keeping track of where she goes. There are no clear frames of this tiny interaction, but look:
he’s keeping tabs on her. The minute she moves, he’s checking over his shoulder to see what she’s up to. By contrast, he doesn’t look at his wife even once.)
(One other thing about this tiny little scene of them playing house. GJH has absolutely no chill. He is tense and intense even before he gets on the phone. It’s not really possible to tell what Abigail is thinking through all of this--we know from later that she’s a pretty good liar--but Garret Jacob Hobbs is not subtle. He’s jumpy as fuck, and he’s probably that way all the time.)
Continuing.
The next time we see Lousie, she’s being shoved out the front door. Think about that. GJH didn’t kill her immediately. He’s not interested in seeing her dead. He’s using her to buy time in the kitchen with Abigail because he knows he doesn’t have any left.
The way I remembered Louise dying was with a cut to her throat, but look at it. She’s got wounds on her arms, on her torso. He wasn’t careful, or quick. He didn’t hold out his hand to her and ask her to come closer. He attacked her, shoved her out the door, and slammed it behind her.
That is the end of Louise Hobbs.
Hobbs family dynamics just. Absolutely fascinate me. (Too much.) I so desperately want to know what it was like to be Louise Hobbs. I want to know how much she knew, how much she suspected, and how much she refused to let herself understand. She’s the cannibal the show cares about the least. She’s the one who dies so that someone else can have a little more time.
The show constantly returns to the idea of murder as a way to break or make families. Besides the Hobbs family, there’s the children and foster mother from Oeuf, Gideon killing his wife in backstory, Lawrence Wells who killed his own son, Margot and Mason, and of course Dolarhyde’s obsession with killing families together. Louise Hobbs’s is a murder to break a family. She is, very literally, cast out.
We do see her one last time:
It’s interesting that, when Abigail sees this, Alana is the one who becomes her mother. Whatever you want to say about the long-term feasibility of the Murder Family, it’s indisputable that Hannibal was never interested in planning a future with Alana. She’s there nearly by accident. Holding a place meant for Will. She is not part of the plan.
If Abigail mourns for Louise, she does it off-screen. We see flashbacks to her interactions with Garret Jacob, but, after this, Louise never returns. We’re left to wonder, or to forget, all on our own.
#hannibal#hannibal meta#louise hobbs#abigail hobbs#garret jacob hobbs#.#i kind of wish i had a conclusion to this you know#An Thesis#but i really don't#i just have spent Way Too Long thinking about what the hobbs family must have been like#just rolling around in Man That Was Awful For Every One Of Them#also#i'm not saying here that People Should Pay Attention To Louise Hobbs#you know#she's a very minor character and That's OK#i'm just saying that i spend more time thinking about her than her screentime warrants#and today it spilled over#okokok that's it i'm done now#good bye send post begone thoughts
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I think it's very important that we bring back this inherent understanding that actors are also just some fucking guys (gender neutral)
#i was looking forward to a fun week in the Hannibal fandom with the recent cons#but alas. idk why i'm surprised at all. i'm not really. i'm mostly disappointed#why are y'all taking everything at face value and generally just... put their opinions above everyone else's#they're also just some guys that happened to play these characters a decade ago#am i defending middle-aged white men right now? maybe. why? idk either. i'm annoyed lol#but i really think some of y'all need to remember that they're also just some random dudes that *you* happen to look up to#hugh dancy#mads mikkelsen#nbc hannibal#not saying that they (and especially Hugh) don't tend to say dumb shit sometimes but damn#lighten up a little and ignore it. it's never that deep i promise#and don't come at me with Hugh's apparently misinformed comments about Will as an autistic guy#i'm aware but also he didn't say what y'all are talking about he did due to people's post#but i'll stop there before i go on an even longer rant#i didn't even wanna make a post like that but i've been getting so fucking annoyed that this will give me some peace lol
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Very interesting to me that Abigail preferred Hannibal over Will, but Will had an emotional connection to her that Hannibal didn't - or at least not to the same extent.
I think maybe one day he could've found a stronger bond considering she had also killed and eaten people, but during the series she's really just a tool. Hannibal uses her to like... babytrap Will. And tbf it worked, Will didn't tell Jack what he knew when he discovered Abigail murdered that guy - if he was willing to cover for her, maybe eventually he'd cover for Hannibal too, the 3 of them too intrinsically tied for him to separate, I mean that's the trapping part. But she was just a means to an end, a relationship Hannibal nurtured for his own gain with Will....whereas Will really did view her as his daughter.
Very interesting to me...off-put by Will (especially towards the end of s1), but he had the most vested interest in her well-being out of the pair...
#Thinking abt in s2 when Will still thinks she's dead and asks Freddie not to write about her#And also in s3 when his subconscious takes the form of her#I'm not saying he would have been great or that he's the superior parent or that he's without flaw no no no#(although will graham IS without flaw <33)#But just that he did have a genuine affection for her that Hannibal didnt#Which makes it so much more intriguing that she was always going to Hannibal for things...#Which obviously a lot of that makes sense within the context of him knowing she killed that guy#And her knowing he helped get rid of the body#Like yeah ur both bound by secrets but even THAT was a ploy by Hannibal#But anyway of course you'd go to that person bc that automatically assigns a modicum of trust between you#But she did also just seem to enjoy his company#And listen Will can't be blamed for the end of s1 when he was freaking her out#His brain was literally being boiled in its own juices#He was Not Well#But he was trying#Anyway#Me attempting not to start every post with 'thinking about...'#Several of my drafts start like that and idk what to do#I'm a thinker!! I'm thinking!!#hannibal#hannibal lecter#will graham#hannigram#murder husbands#hannibal nbc
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rewatching s3 ep 2 knowing that Abigal is all in Wills head is so interesting
like hes talking to himself Abigal isnt questioning him on why he kept lying, Wills questioning himself on why he kept lying why he didnt just go with hannnibal like he wanted than "nobody had to die"
Abigal isnt the one who still wants to find hannibal, Wills the one who still wants to be with hannibal after everything hes done "after everything hes done youd still go to him?" sir your saying that to yourself 💀youre the messy bitch here not Abigal
#has to imagine a teenage girl saying what hes feeling to make himself feel better about regretting not going with him#and not just becasue he could've had abigal but because he realized how much hannibal wanted will to come with him#will kept lying cause he truly couldnt believe hannibal loved him as much as he did#and he didnt think that he deserved something that made him feel as good as hannibal does#aaaaaaaaa i love this show theyre so messy#hannibal nbc#hannibal#nbc hannibal#will graham#hannibal lecter#hannibal series
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I feel like there are a lot of post-fall fics where Will and Hannibal are kind of living in this weird limbo because they're open to each other now and Will knows Hannibal loves him but Will is Straight™. But I raise you the idea that Will is like Andrew Garfield, and he identifies as heterosexual but has an openness to any impulses that may arise within him at any time.
#still love the idea of this being the case but they're still in that awkward limbo#because Will is an awkward bean and Hannibal wants him to make the first move but Will has Anxiety#like the impulses are there and Will is feeling some sort of way but his brain keeps short curcuiting when he thinks about them#BE SEXY AND AWKWARD IS WHAT I'M SAYING#hannibal#hannigram#will graham
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remember the time when hannibal and will "cooked" freddie together and "ate" her with mahler playing in the background? yeah.
#raj shitposting#i mean all the nerds get what that means but for those of y'all who dk him... mahler is like daddy the second after haydn so yeah...#it's a very richard siken but music reference for the socialite queers but like very softly. and it's so fucking rich there's no avoiding i#like you can still get away with saying things like i like tchaikovsky but if you mention mahler? you know your shit. you like HAVE to.#if you say you like mahler there is no way you're faking liking classical music because no one who doesn't know daddy talks about him. ever#naka choko#hannibal#hannigram
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