#what about mizumono??

[hannibalspubes]

Honestly the first scene In Hannibal that I was left thinking “are they actually about to kiss??” Was in season 2, episode 7 when Will holds Hannibal at gun point. I could not stop imagining will dropping the gun, slamming Hannibal into the wall like he was gonna kill him but just smashing their faces together instead. Raw, angry, messy. Then I think he would just push away and walk out. the rest of the show would carry on like normal and will would ignore it.

Until the cliff scene when they kiss again

The sexual tension between me and the man holding a gun to my head

[barredindawn]

i remember thinking some people will like this one (i am barely coherent and just wanted to hide spoilers for people)

[absowution]

"Your bones will be a souvenir of what could have been" had no right to go as hard as it did. Even in the aftermath of betrayal Durge's name will be tied to Gortash's. It's romantic. It's giving huge nasty breakup vibes. If they are to part ways let death never be too far behind.

[ghostdrinkssoup]

thinking about how abigail only has one real double in the show. sure she has the other dead girls, but they’re just copies of her. fakes. they weren’t real in the eyes of her father. they’re so hollow we don’t know anything about them other than their likeness to abigail, and abigail foils no one else. except one other girl: mischa. hannibal’s golden ticket. the only girl that really matters. the girl will has to chase the ghost of because he desperately wants to understand hannibal, and he knows this is the only way he can, so he visits his ancestral home and finds chiyoh. because ultimately abigail wasn’t the girl all the other girls were mirroring, at least not from a narrative point of view. to hannibal, her new father, she was just another copy of a girl who died a long time ago and could never really replace

[super-who-locked-me-in-here]

I've been busy falling back into some of my hyperfixations from high school, specifically the visual novel game Cinderella Phenomenon and can I just say that as a person who has the Hannibal episode Mizumono and the Destiel confession scene from Supernatural living rent free in my head that Waltz's bad ending in Cinderella Phenomenon is the single most devastating ending to a piece of media I've ever had to experience

[bottombaron]

so, if Laszlo takes the fall for Guillermo like I predicted and Nandor kills him or both of them or all of them (and then feels real bad abt it and brings him/them back via wish), I know a lot of ppl who are already down on Nandor here are going to swell in numbers and everyones going to hate on him and w/e and anyways I just want people to know something real important

sit down

breath this in

take it to heart...

hes going to be so fucking hot doing it

[hannibalismos-jaaneman]

so i told my friend about that meta we have about hannibal trying to impregnate will throughout s1&2 and since she hasn't finished the show yet, her response to it was, and i quote, "ew".

[pesky--dust]

EDIT: I just realized that he would probably kill her instead of Antony Dimmond and now I kinda wish it happened. Like— it would be so persuasive and metaphorical at the same time.

I know that I'm late to that party, but this gets me.

I mean— wouldn't he simply kill her in “Mizumono” or at all? If at all, then all the possibilities what to do with Abigail in the third season! If he would kill her anyway, then yup, “Mizumono” was the most powerful choice for doing so.

[love-songs-for-emma]

i think will knew he was special considering he tells hannibal he's all alone and that they're alone without each other. will understands that hannibal is alone even with all the other murderers he surrounds himself with, because he cannot find the same fulfillment in the company of others as he does with will because only will can see him and understand him and take away his loneliness.

hi anon ! thanks for sending this bc it's smth i've been meaning to expand on for awhile. i wrote a post many moons ago abt it and have another ask thats just been Waiting for a proper reply (srry!) and maybe now's the time to address it

okay so. i think this ask is in reference to my tags on a recent reblog, screencapped here for reference:

i think youre right that will is aware that he's special to hannibal, considering he's special enough to be one of the patients hannibal decides to try and coerce into their "Becoming." but! i do question will's understanding of the Depth of his uniqueness to hannibal.

in shiizakana (s2e9), after will finds out about randall tier having been hannibal's patient and margot visits him at home to chat abt hannibal's therapy, will has a bit of a stress fit in his next session:

pacing the room, avoiding the chair. he's questioning what he has in common with hannibal's other patients... he wonders how many others there have been – even bringing up his brief conversation with hannibal's own therapist who tells will he isnt in a particularly unique dynamic with hannibal

but. this is in shiizakana, 3 eps before the quote you're referencing. so let's move forward and see what's changed:

in tome-wan (s2e12), will finally gets to properly speak with the famed dr. du maurier and he asks how they can bring down hannibal. her only advice being

so. hannibal's got a bit of an ego (shocker). and during their next session,, things get a lil dicey. will leans hard into this idea. he essentially lists off all the work hannibal's done to get will to be entirely his

i'd like to argue that will doesn't see this list as a "why im special to hannibal" list but rather a way to stroke hannibal's ego, like bedelia had explicitly said would be hannibal's downfall. bc the fact is,, will Knows hannibal can and likely has done this level of insane shit to others. and narratively,, i'd say a lot of will's dialogue in this scene is influenced by bedelia's advice from the scene before where she advises will to stroke hanninal's whimsey and his need to feel Unique, even god-like. and hannibal even sees will seeing him!

so yeah will's saying "we're unique together," but that's also flattery on his part towards hannibal.! he's using hannibal's knowledge of his empathy to convince him that Only Will Gets Him. he's saying "yes ive been applying myself to your perspective and u are so unique and special." it's will manipulating BACK. (thats our powerful lil gay.) and i'd argue that all these layers of lies and deceit leave little room for truth and Feelings to leak through the cracks. how much of what hannibal says does will believe? how much of what will himself says does he believe?

all of this and we're still left questioning: does will know just how important and special he is to hannibal? well. i'l leave yall with some words from bedelia

[stuck-in-the-ghost-zone]

if anyone needs me i will be rewatching trigun 98 and tristamp over and over until my brain explodes

[idledreams4]

Haven't listened to this song in a while. I forgot how real these lyrics were lmaooo (plaintext below the screenshot)

"It's like we never even happened, baby

What the fuck. is up. with that?

And good for you it's like you never even met me

Remember when you swore to God I was the only

Person who ever got you

Well screw that

And screw you

You will never have to hurt the way you know that I do"

[ghostdrinkssoup]

@horrorlesbians YOU POPPED OFF WITH THESE TAGS YOU’RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT

thinking about the plot of nbc hannibal from jack crawford’s pov is so wild because it’s like,, imagine you’re trying to solve this murder and you know a guy who’s a little weird but can do the job better than anyone so you hire him, and then it turns out he needs some mental help because he’s got an empathy disorder so you get him to see the eccentric psychiatrist everyone has vouched for and you’re like yeah, he’s polite and mild-mannered and wears silly suits it’ll be cool. and all the while your wife is dying of cancer and things are quickly spiralling out of control and before you know it the empath is seriously losing his mind and that psychiatrist from earlier is actually lowkey a cannibal and you think you’re gonna catch him but then the empath falls in love with him ?? deadass ?? and the empath ruins your whole operation because he wants to be swept off his feet and melt into the darkness or whatever the hell he’s been whispering about ?? and he chases the cannibal to florence in his stupid fishing boat and now they’re speaking in riddles and romanticising cannibalism and staring deeply into each other’s eyes while you’re trying to grieve your dead wife, until the cannibal turns himself in because they broke up ?? like for real this time, it’s over over 🙄 but it doesn’t matter because years later you’re still dealing with their bullshit because now they’re quoting romeo and juliet to each other from across the glass in the insane asylum and being bitchy and jealous like. I’d shoot myself

[arkashas]

Hannibal 2.13 Mizumono

Bryan Fuller: What I love about this moment is that Hannibal gives Will the opportunity to come clean and be forgiven.

David Slade: Yeah for me in a way it is almost like the couple where one of them has an affair but that could be forgiven if only they would admit it and start anew - there's time to cast off the other woman, if you can call Jack that. And uh - the greater betrayal is the denial not the act.

Bryan Fuller: Yes, like the act up until this point is justifiable but Hannibal is giving Will the opportunity to tell the truth and he doesn't take it.

[graciereadshannigram]

y'know, sometimes i can't get over how impulsively hannibal acted in mizumono like, baby girl, he called you to warn you the FBI knew!!! maybe wait two seconds before whipping out the knife and gutting the love of your life because maybe, just maybe, there's an explanation that isn't "will betrayed me, i must forgive him the way God forgives."

and then i remember.

hannibal didn't give a fuck about garret jacob hobbs when he called and said, "they know." he was just curious about what would happen. it was for his own amusement.

so of course when will calls and says the same exact words, hannibal doesn't see it as the genuine gesture will meant it to be. how could he? all he knows is that will lied to him about freddie, refused to run away with him and insisted on confronting jack, and is now calling hannibal to taunt him and see what he does. all of will's actions have been for his own amusement.

and oh boy, does hannibal put on a show. "you want to see what i'm capable of? fucking watch me."

[honeygrahambitch]

When Will gives that lecture on Hobbs' copycat, he says the copycat will never kill like that again. And what Hannibal does next after listening to the lecture, is killing Marissa exactly the same way he killed Cassie Boyle. I find it funny that he might have been like "Are you sure about that?" Because in fact Will was right. And Hannibal knew of course that Will was right, he wasn't going to use the same design but after Will specifically said that he won't kill like that again, he felt the need to contradict him, maybe in a teasing way, like "looks like I just killed like that again, what are you going to do about it?"

Anyway I wanted in fact to parallel this scene with the one from season 2 where Hannibal is like "With all my knowledge and intrusion I could never entirely predict you." Cause he couldn't correctly predict Will's actions all the time either.

This is exactly what happened in season one. Will could not predict Hannibal's next step. And they indeed were never able to tell "oh he will 100% do this now" about the other. There was always room for the unexpected. For example when Hannibal sent Will to Tobias. Or when Will sent Matthew to Hannibal. Or Mizumono itself is the most unpredictable occurrence cause neither of them had any idea about what the other would do. Even more so in twotl.

So I find it really beautiful that they could see each other for what they really were but they had a hard time predicting each other's actions.

[bearclawswriting]

I agreeeeee with this, especially about the part about Hannibal being on the ace spectrum. Their relationship is centred around power, obsession and control, and surprisingly sex isn’t really factored into that. I’m of the mind that sex is a performance for Hannibal, something he gives to other people for reasons other than pleasure

I don't think Hannibal and Will ever kissed nor had sex in the entire series and I don't think they would have for a long time after the fall

I always see people saying stuff like "omg they totally had sex between those scenes" and creating fics about that, but even if I think it would be kinda funny and interesting, I also think it contradicts a lot about how the show established their relationship was like at the time. Will just fully accepted Hannibal and Hannibal just truly gave up control after the fall

Yes they are obviously very horny and desperate for each other but I think that even after the fall they wouldn't immediately get romantically (being officially a couple and stuff) nor sexually involved

I think they would need to really get used to being vulnerable around each other before doing anything of the sorts. And in this time after the fall they both know they're together in some non traditional way without ever really talking about it. As the time passes they eventually would get to the "what are we?" conversation but that would take a lot of time and a lot of drinking

I like to imagine that after the fall they run away and go live together (obviously) and they would behave like a couple but not exactly be one. They would slowly start doing things like drinking, changing clothes, sleeping and bathing together and stuff like that but it would all be non sexual and they'd both take their time getting used to doing that

Because let's be honest, neither of them have any idea of how to behave and how their relationship would work and they're both rediscovering each other in an entirely different way, and they're both so scared of separating again

I just really don't see their relationship being as sexual as people expect it to be that's it thanks for listening to my non sense rambling

(yes they're relationship is obviously sexual I'm not trying to say it isn't, this is just my idea of them getting used to each other after the fall)