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cakypa120 Ā· 2 months ago
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Billy and Danny are planning wedding with each other because of the observers
They consider Billy as a champion of magic to be too powerful by himself
And they consider Danny as the Ghost came in ancient space is being too powerful to be by himself
So they're married each other because apparently they balance each other out
Could Justice League because of this thing it's an arranged marriage that both of them are really unhappy with
It just them being unhappy with the observers especially Danny this could be tied in with the reverse Persephone thing
Like Billy is really happy with it because the gods are all supportive and Danny is dealing with her the butting heads in the fall of the ancients and observers
I may have misunderstood the question. Sorry(ā Ā ā ļ½„ąø±ā ļ¹ā ļ½„ąø±ā )
Marvel: You're invited to my and the Phantom's wedding! *holds out invitations to each hero*
Barry: What do you mean you're not married?!
Marvel: It was just an engagement. You know, meeting the parents and stuff. The Observants were really pushing for us to get married. Something about balance, I think.
Batman: The Observants?
Marvel: Yeah, those idiots.
Danny: *hisses* Why are you jumping in ahead of time?!
Observants: Danny Fenton and Billy Batson may not be married yet....
Observants: But Phantom and Captain Marvel should get married....
Observants: For the balance of the universe.
Danny: *covers face with hands and groans*
Observants: *wait calmly*
That's not how Danny wanted to marry Billy. He was planning something romantic, and only when he graduated. Only the Observers disrupted all his plans. Danny was then grabbed by the arms and placed in front of Billy. Then the Observers said that the engagement had been approved and the wedding date had already been chosen. It was a shock to Billy, but it was Danny who was most shocked.
Phantom: They didn't give me a choice, you know? I wanted everything to be romantic. So that the one I love is really admired. But they bring me to him and tell me that everything has already been decided!
Superman: This is terrible! Why did they do this to you?
Phantom: Like I know. They're all assholes who don't respect anyone. It's good that Marvel understood me when I explained everything to him.
Superman thought that the Phantom was being forced into an engagement with Marvel. And the fact that these two are not very happy about it. Clark now disliked the Observants a little for what they had done to Phantom and Marvel. Forced marriage is always very bad.
While Danny was fighting with the Observants, Billy was very happy that he was marrying Danny. That is, Captain Marvel marries the Phantom. But Billy is Captain Marvel, so it's okay. Today the Captain and the Phantom, tomorrow Billy and Danny. He considered it a victory.
Zeus: I can ask Dionysus to provide alcohol.
Solomon: We want to celebrate quietly, and not turn everything into a binge and an orgy.
Achilles: We should have a fight with the Observants as a competition.
Hercules: I agree. You can also beat Adam.
Atlas: Isn't he our best man?
Mercury: Billy's best man, Marvel's punching bag.
Billy: Guys, we were choosing a menu.
Persephone: Why didn't anyone tell me that my beloved nephew was getting married?!!?
Hades: Run, you fools!!
Preparations for the wedding were in full swing. Billy and Danny were going crazy over the preparations. The league was going crazy about the upcoming wedding. The observers made sure that everything went well.
On the wedding day, Marvel had a lot more gold hanging on him than before and his whole appearance was more majestic. The phantom was blinding in its beauty. A ring of rage glittered on his finger and a crown of fire burned with a green flame. Phantom and Marvel looked great together, as if they were made for each other. As much as the League dislikes this marriage, they admit that Phantom and Marvel balanced each other out.
The ceremony begins.....
....Another alien invasion is taking place on Earth.
It's like a wedding without a fight, right?
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ahotknife Ā· 4 months ago
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idk if u have answered this but do you have thoughts about adam’s sexuality pre canon or even like…pre bllb? i see people talk about ronan and k (thoughts on kavinsky as a character I would love to hear your opinion of him) but you are super intelligent and always provide a perspective I haven’t considered before so i would like to know your thoughts
sure thing. in my opinion, at the beginning of his arc, adam’s not really aware of himself in a few crucial ways because there are a lot of things he feels he has to suppress (impulsivity, anger, vulnerability, weakness, tenderness) and by doing so he ends up keeping most of himself under wraps. he does exhibit textual interest in boys/men during trb/tdt (greenmantle, declan, the J Crew ad, ronan), just as he exhibits textual interest in girls/women (blue, helen, the psychics, his past classmates). we see him use more overt language in his observations of blue because that is where the focus of his desire is, but his attraction to multiple genders is definitely woven into his fabric from the get go. as a boy growing up in an abusive home and attending a private school in virginia in the early 00s, it’s not necessarily a conversation he would ever have out loud or with himself. adam’s entire narrative arc is about him coming to terms with who he is and what he wants. often we see adam imagining himself as unknowable, unlovable, the kind of person who will be perpetually unsatisfied and alone; he is inherently cynical and prone to self isolation for a number of reasons. despite this, all his friends do end up knowing him. ronan famously knows him best of all, but there are some other terrific moments where gansey and blue and persephone identify things within him that he had either not known or tried to hide. i think adam puts a lot of work into being okay with himself throughout the series. he has to accept the good and bad, the things he can’t change, the things that were born into him and the things he brought himself up to be. he is mean, he is glum, he is short-tempered, he is materialistic, he is pragmatic to the point it occasionally renders him without empathy, he is manipulative & cunning. he is also deeply insecure. he is also smart and tenacious and loyal and resourceful and a dozen other things he struggles to give himself credit for. he does, very explicitly in the text, come to terms with the fact that not only is he lovable, he is capable of loving in return. i think his sexuality was never really a sticking point in the formation of his identity/psyche. adam is pretty okay with the fact he’s got an appetite. he watches declan talk to his girlfriend and takes notes. he thinks about kissing blue, he thinks about blue’s body. the second he and ronan decide they’re going to be Something, they stay up all night and make out with their shirts off. like let’s be so for real: he’s not afraid of sex or sexuality in the human sense. i think the more important thing, for him, was coming to understand that he was not #builtdifferent. at first he thinks that there is something fundamentally wrong with him that would prevent him from ever truly being A Real Boy; later we see him being almost smug about the fact he is wantable, worthy of a crush, preferable to someone even over gansey (!). the gender of that person was never really a concern—it was the fact that person might never exist at all. i don’t think it was necessary for him to look in the mirror and say ā€œyou like boysā€, i think the necessary thing was for him to look at himself and say ā€œthere is nothing wrong with youā€. which he does! sort of. there’s plenty wrong with him. he’s a freak. but also: he accepts that. in my opinion he’s got the most cohesive, thorough, and meaningful arc of the core 4, and that includes coming into himself as a queer adult (in a way that suits him as a character). just terrific stuff. adam parrish, the man that you are…
my thoughts on kavinsky: he needed to exist, he served his narrative purpose, he is now dead. and he probably did not have three balls
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genericpuff Ā· 10 months ago
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So what I'm gathering is that in LR Persephone loses all memory when her eyes go red/ powers activate, hence her talking about lapses in memory to Hestia and not knowing why Minthe is mad at her. Is that right?
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Saw you left two asks so I'm gonna respond to them both at the same time here if that's okay!!!
You're in the right ballpark, though I will give a little hint - she isn't really losing memory so much as she's not able to access those memories. There's a mental block happening there that we're going to get to the root of later.
That said, Hades does not know why Kore got the name Persephone. When he refers to the lapses in memory he's directly observed, he's referring to 1.) her lack of remembering how she wound up in his car the first time they met (she genuinely does not remember and chalks it up to blacking out from drinking too much), and 2.) her lack of remembering how she was able to subdue the shades in Tower 4 (and the specifics of why she waltzed in there to begin with). Though, I will say the latter is mixed between "she can't remember" and "she doesn't want to say" but the stuff she's omitting she still doesn't fully understand directly because of those lapses in memory that she's experiencing more frequently since moving to Olympus.
Even if she could recall following Withy into Tower 4 of her own volition, she doesn't know why Withy was there or why she felt inclined to walk into a restricted area against her better judgment. She's missing a chunk of time between when she entered and when Hades rescued her.
So when Hades says it's "just like last time" when she couldn't remember, he's specifically referring to the incident in which she wound up in his car and couldn't even remember the full details of what happened the night before:
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(this is also why he's so offended and confused when she calls him "smelly" because the night before she had been talking to him as if she was genuinely interested in him and his unique brand of stink LOL)
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Their chance interaction at the Panathenea was genuinely the first time they ever met and so the only information he has to go off of about her is what he's experienced first-hand since meeting her (and whatever assumptions he can make about a goddess who is the creation of Demeter).
There's not much else I can divulge at this moment for the sake of not spoiling what I have planned, but considering it's been fun to go more in-depth on this topic, I'll leave y'all with some final food for thought:
Kore and Hades are both written to parallel each other but in different ways throughout the story - one of those things is the fact that they're both unreliable narrators with skewed perceptions of their own pasts and their current realities, for different but similar-ish reasons that will become apparent in due time. Part of Kore's skewed perceptions are largely due to her lapses in memory that she will eventually piece together as her character arc progresses.
That's as much as I'll say for now though as I don't wanna spoil anything else for y'all, but I hope this clears up any confusion and gives you something fun to think about! Thanks so much for reading! <3
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artemis-potnia-theron Ā· 1 year ago
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Hi šŸ’™
I would like to worship Artemis, i've looking and investigate about hellenic polytheism and i have a special bond with the Delian triad (Artemis, Apollon and Leto), i love them, but i'm new in this and i want to start first with Artemis...
How i could start? How do you begin with her? I don't know how to start and what i have to do... Could you help me? I see how is your relationship with her and i love it ✨
Khaire! šŸ«‚
So excited to hear about your interest in the trio!! They all hold very special places in my heart, so I love to hear when other people find them as well!
However, although I consider Apollo(n) to be my spiritual father and Leto to be my spiritual grandmother, the relationship I have with Artemis is an intersection of mother, sister, best friend, love of my life, spiritual mistress, queen, ect...so I will be approaching this from a more Artemis focused perspective lol. Hope that's okay!!
First, I would strongly recommend reading She Who Hunts: Artemis: The Goddess Who Changed the World by Carla Ionescu for a really solid, comprehensive overview of her worship. Understanding her history and domains can be very helpful in understanding Artemis as a goddess. Apollo(n) and Leto are featured in it, but mostly in relation to her.
Theoi.com is a good overall resource, but I would recommend sticking to 'scholarly' or peer-reviewed sources as much as possible when trying to get historical information about her cults, worship, and associated religious practices. The same goes for Apollo(n) and Leto.
In terms of personal practice stuff, it took me years to really forge the connection and relationship I have with her how. She can be prickly in certain ways. Her energy is as intense and wild as anything I've ever experienced. Early on, it felt like getting close to a roaming wolf or a hunting lioness. But once you bridge that gap, she's as protective and loves with as much ferocity as a mother bear. Apollo(n) and Leto were a bit less distant, even in the early days - at least for me. So take your time. Don't rush things with any of them, but most specifically not with Artemis lol.
In terms of activities/stuff she likes, I can list some random, everyday ways I connect with her!
- Being out in the moonlight, walking with the nightroaming critters šŸŒ™šŸ¦‡
- Going on nature walks, hikes, or just sitting outside! Touching grass really works haha
- Work on healing your 'inner child' through shadow work, but mostly importantly through therapy if it's accessible
- Taking care of and/or spending time with animals
- Reading her myths
- 'Ecstatic' dance. She shares a connection with The Mousai (The Muses) and to singing and music in general - a domain she shares with her brother
- Anything involved in childcare and/or childbirth
- Practicing archery
- Standing up for yourself
- Appericating solitude/independence
- Listening to folk music, lol. She loves The Amazing Devil
- Of course, connecting with others close to her helps! Apollo(n) and Leto are the most obvious ones, but she also has close ties to Hekate, Kybele, Dionysus, Persephone, Demeter, Zeus, Athene, Pan, and many more both inside and outside of her 'main' pantheon.
- In terms of symbols and stuff I've found she likes for her altars, she loves deer, bear, dog, fish, boar, and wolf imagery in particular. I associate green, brown, grey, blue, and purple with her. She's loves amethyst. And of course she loves any nature-related offerings!
- I also love connecting everyday stuff with her - albeit in a UPG kind of way lol. I associate the movies Beasts of the Southern Wild and Princess Mononoke with her as well as A Children's Bible by Lydia Millet and We Have Always Lived in the Castle by Shriely Jackson and that's all super UPG! Personalize your practice to you, your life, and your beliefs.
What matters most is fostering a relationship with a good foundation. As cliche as it sounds, it really can be about the journey rather than the destination when it comes to deity work. Enjoy yourself, be respectful, decide what you believe, and listen to the lessons she has to teach you. The rest will come naturally :)
Don't hesitate to let me know if you have any other questions! May Artemis' arrow guide you always.
- Taylor šŸŒ™šŸ¹šŸ¦Œ
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ophieslibrary Ā· 1 year ago
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Okay so part 2 to this because I can’t stop thinking about it and also because @persephone-kore-law asked me to, and it made me happy that another person wanted me to continue onto that.
Word Count: ~1200
After the dust settled and everyone’s names were cleared, the normalcy you had craved, once again returned to your little family. You began to fall back into your routine. Brief. Go. Find your target, or sometimes take the target out. Debrief. Sometimes it took a little more than that, and sometimes one or more of you came back a little more battered and bruised than the last time. But overall? Normal. Exactly as you had hoped.
That is until the incident.
He was fine. He is fine. It was scary he could’ve died. But he didn’t.
You try to remain calm and to repeat this to yourself on the Heli, heading back to base from Urzikstan.
You had managed to secure Laswell after she had been taken on an OP in Spain. You and Captain had taken to the ground with Farrah’s troops to pursue the vehicle that held your CIA agent. Gaz and Nic were in the Heli, taking out enemy combatants from above and being ready for Exfil once Kate was secured. You volunteered to take to the ground with Price just so Kyle would still be in the Heli, to keep him off the ground, out of the direct line of fire. You thought you were doing the right thing.
Everything was fine, you were making good progress, making up a lot of ground. It was fine. and then it wasn’t. How were you supposed to know they had RPGs? You heard Nic tell out about the first one, but he managed to evade. You breathed out a sigh of relief only to gasp when a second missile took to the sky watching from the back of the truck you and Price had commandeered as the Heli was struck slightly, Nic not being able to fully evade it this time. It teetered like a log in a rushing river and then you saw the flailing blob of the Sergeant fall out from the chopper.
Nic managed to pull up just in time for Gaz to not smack into the hard earth below, getting caught a rope by some miracle. But that miracle was short lived as enemies now began firing on your vulnerable, upside down teammate.
Nic began screaming ā€œCaptain Gaz fell out!ā€
ā€œCome again?ā€
ā€œThe Sergeant! He’s gone!ā€
ā€œI’m not dead Nic! I’m hanging from a bloody rope- Pull up! Pull up!ā€
Nic cursed something in his native language but you didn’t need to understand it to know what he was saying. Holy shit. Gaz began swaying side to side to avoid being hit by vehicles and finally after what felt like hours of agony that truthfully lasted no longer than a minute. He cut himself down, and began the pursuit on the ground with the rest of you.
And now here you are. In a crudely patched up Heli. With your comrade, Captain, Kate, and Kyle. Kyle who could’ve died. Kyle who should’ve died. You still don’t know how he didn’t. You do, you saw what happened but your brain is having trouble catching up with your eyes. You can’t get the picture of his falling body out of your head. Every time you close your eyes, even to blink, it haunts you. His screaming, even if he had the situation under control, set every one of your nerve endings on fire.
He was fine. He is fine. It was scary he could’ve died. But he didn’t.
The heli lands and your rag tag groups heads to debrief and prepares for whatever news Laswell has on the missiles.
It isn’t until much later, days, weeks later even. That you are able to finally voice that you’ve been unable to sleep. That the guilt you feel for sending him up in that chopper has been eating you alive. You don’t admit it to Gaz of course. But to your mandated therapist. Everyone on the team has to see her. And it makes sense considering the shit you all see and walk through everyday.
ā€œHave you told Sergeant Garrick about any of this?ā€
ā€œNo, no, he doesn’t need to hear about this. I’m sure he’s got his own stuff going on. Plus, he was fine. He is fine. It was scary he could’ve died. But he didn’t. So no reason to dig all this up for him again.ā€
ā€œHmmā€
And you think that’s that. You told your shrink, you made it seem like you were dealing and you thought that was the end of it. Until Captain Price pulls you into his office with Gaz saying you were both mandated to a joint therapy session lasting no less than one hour.
ā€œDo you know why you’re both here today?ā€
ā€œNot a clueā€ Your teammate remarks.
You stay silent. You know what she wants from you. But you’re hard headed. You’re stubborn. You're a soldier who has been trained by the best of the best in the CIA. You can handle hours, weeks of torture and you would never speak. You stay silent.
ā€œHmm. Sergeant Garrick would you mind sharing your experience with the joint mission you had in Urzikstahn to get Kate Laswell back?ā€
And Kyle wastes not time telling the story from a tactical standpoint. He keeps it methodical, clinical, professional even. As if he was reciting his report of the OP.
ā€œAnd can you go into detail about what you were feeling when you fell out of the helicopter?ā€ She probes.
ā€œI was terrified.ā€ He whispers. Fine is the strong, sure voice from moments before. ā€œI thought I was gonna die, I thought I had for a minute there. It messes with you thinking you're gonna die, accepting that, not dying, and then having to fight to stay alive. I can’t get it out of my head.ā€
You wish you could have kept the sob in. Or your tears back. But hearing Kyle admit that he was also struggling, that he was also fearful, somehow makes you feel better. Connected even. You feel bad of course that he’s struggling with this, but it validates your feelings to an extent.
You begin to tell him everything that’s been going through your head since the mission, all the sleepless nights, the guilt slowly eating you alive. After many tears, many many assurances, and a few glasses of water. Gaz and you promise to lean on each other as you both continue to work through the fears and feelings that mission brought on.
Losing a member of your family is something you never want to have to worry about again. Something you never want to have happen again. You're thankful to still have Gaz with you, and you know in time you’ll both heal together. Because that’s what family does, they help when needed and they pick each other up when they’re down. Your group may not be a conventional family, but it’s yours and that’s enough for you.
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Requests are: OPEN
A/N: I’m thinking about doing more in depth parts for all the boys, if you want me to lemme know and I’ll do it, if you hate this and don’t want me to, don’t tell mešŸ™‚
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moonlightflower-queen Ā· 1 year ago
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Welcome to the post where i ramble about my fan design of Macaria for Hades game because i like rambling and you clicked on the link so you did this to yourself.
Anyway i did some research first, not very in depth mind you because my brainrot goes deep but not deep enough to look for primary sources. My source is wikipedia. There's a daughter of Heracles who has the same name so i decided to take some stuff from her story and make this Macaria the goddess of blessed death and sacrifice (also so she doesen't overlap with Thanatos too much.)
Then i sketched her traditionally. I'm not good at letting loose when drawing digitally.
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I wanted her to look really demure, kinda tired so it makes her look gentler. I imagine she's not very independent yet and is kind of a doormat. I wanted her to have a very different body type than her siblings. She is considerably taller than both of them (still mortal sized but a really tall mortal) and is very thin (kinda like Chronos but nobody will tell her that). I imagine she doesen't like fighting and works in the house of Hades. Does a lot of paperwork too, lol. She grew up in a more peaceful time unlike Mel so she wasn't trained to be a killing machine. She doesen't like to do it anyway unlike Zagreus. She can use her claws to tear people apart, she just rather not.
Then i decided to design her face first.
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I played around while keeping her parents appearance in mind. I decided to make her a witch too (I like putting moons on the characters i design and no one can make me stop) and gave her dove imagery for the whole sacrifice thing. I considered giving her Demeter's hair color and experimented with wacky anime genetics too. I first wanted to give her Persephone's face structure similar to her siblings but then decided i really liked design number 3 where she has a cleft chin and bent nose like Hades does.
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The lighter hair color Demeter has didn't work for the color scheme i had in mind. It ended up being too light and the light streaks made the upper part of her design too complicated so i decided not to. As someone pointed out, the Olympian gods don't wear pants but Chthonic gods do. It's a design decision that emphasizes the cultural difference between them so i gave her pants. Also my shorthand for shy character in character design is having them show very little skin.
At this point i was hitting my heads on walls since i didn't want her to look too similar to Thanatos. That was why i gave her the sacrifice symbolism in the first place, so i'd have more imagery to work with. I still think they have a lot of similar elements and don't like that but i also spent too much time on a fan character design already and didn't want to spend more. It's okay for them to have design affinity right, they are both gods of death?? (I'm coping can you tell)
I decided her main color would be white and she'd have a lot of accent colors pointing to her family (Red for Zag, orange for Mel, Green for Persephone and the sigil of the dead for Hades), to symbolize she isn't very independent. I decided to give her talons because bird and because i thought blessing someone in death would require her to be much more emotionally involved, so a weapon that required her to get close and touch mortals to claim their souls seemed logical. The lantern is there because light and blessings seemed similar to me. (I almost modeled her lantern in Blender because i'm horrible at drawing objects but stopped myself at the last second.)
I didn't design her as a main character of a Hades game. I imagine she'd be a helper Npc probably. Like she'd give you a ''blessing'' for your next run when you die. If i turned in this design as a main character of a game where the mc needs to run around, use 6 different weapons and dodge many projectiles and attacks the animators would put my head on a pike. There's a reason boss characters in hades wear clothing with not much to animate. (Hecate takes her hat and skirt off when you fight her even) A design like this would be horrible for clarity in a game where your character model is tiny.
I wanted to give her a shawl around her arms for an unique silhouette. but it made her design too busy. So feather cloak it was.
Anyway this much rambling was enough. I really need to draw my webcomic because i want to launch in August and i want more buffer but i don't think that's happening considering the severity of my brainrot. Uuuh thank you for reading!
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ananke-xiii Ā· 6 months ago
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If man is five, then the devil is six, and if the devil is six then god is seven…
(general content warning: this post is about "The Substance" which is a body horror movie so I will mention blood&other stuff)
I was very curious about ā€œThe Substanceā€ because everything about it, from the trailer to the music, from the actors to the visuals, promised something veeery good. At the same time, however, I was also a bit anxious because the internet content my algorithm had decided for me seemed to suggest that the movie was great for two major reasons: its references to 80s movies and its critique of the toll the beauty industry exacts on women. And I was like ā€œOkay, fine but I hope it’s more than thatā€ and I’m happy to say that it totally is!
Before watching the movie I wrote that, based on the information I had at the time, the movie’s core theme seemed to be the myth of Demeter and Persephone. After having watched the movie I can confirm my theory, although what I watched was a bit different than the usual interpretation of said myth. There are a lot of GREAT movies about the theme of woman/duality but, as far as I remember and as far as I personally know, in almost all these movies the main element is the relationship between two women (which is amazing and I wouldn’t ever change that). This is not (just) what I’ve seen in ā€œThe Substanceā€.
I think that the main element in the movie is the impact that the negation of natural cycles has on people. It’s not just the beauty industry that denies us to embrace the cycles of life (we can’t stay young forever, this is just an obvious fact that we all know), it’s the whole system we live in which doesn’t accept change and favors replacement of what’s known for something similar (and therefore considered ā€œnormalā€) against the exploration of what’s new and different (and therefore considered ā€œabnormalā€.) In our society a ā€œnormalā€ thing like aging thus becomes ā€œabnormalā€ā€¦ monstrous.
Demi Moore and Margaret Qualley are PHENOMENAL and I truly hope more and more awards come their way because they deserve them all. However, what struck me the most is how the movie doesn’t rely on dialogue at all, everything and I mean everything it’s in the visuals, the photography, the movements, the body. Coralie Fargeat really had a clear vision inside her mind and she managed to transfer that vision from her own inner world to the outside world. While I was watching the movie I had the feeling that all the people working on it were doing their best to give birth to her vision and it was a fantastic thing to watch.
What I personally took from this vision of hers is that, to the surprise of probably nobody, the main character of the movie is the Substance itself. So what is this mysterious Substance exactly? The first ā€œsurpriseā€ is that it’s not merely a thing, a miraculous product but it’s a process. It’s a routine that one must stick to without fail. The balance must be respected: it’s a commandment that demands respect and that doesn’t even bother to tell you what the consequences might be in the event said balance is disrespected. Just obey it.
Elisabeth means ā€œGod is my oathā€ and this is what she does in the movie: she promises that she will respect the balance and obvisoulsy things won't go well. But Elisabeth also means ā€œGod is perfectionā€, ā€œGod is sevenā€ so I want to take a look at what this means in the movie.
The process that taking the Substance entails has different stages: the first one is taking the Activator which, the movie tells us, must be taken only ONCE. Once the Activator has been used Elisabeth’s body gives birth to Sue, who’s not only herself but a ā€œbetter versionā€ of herself, the version she dreams about, perhaps. The Activator stands for the Aristotelian concept of semen as an ā€œactivatorā€, the ā€œactive principleā€, the thing that creates and gives life and shape form while matter is the passive aspect of the process, the thing that get molded and shaped. The Activator also stands for God: Eve from Adam, Sue from Elisabeth.
Like Creation took seven days to be completed, the process of the Substance lasts seven days after which the balance must be restored. So this specific Creation seems to be a little bit imbalanced to my taste: the weight given on the Created is way too big, the process’ targets seem to be both desperate, lonely people and obedient, docile people. The combination of blind desperation and required obedience is a recipe for disaster. The balance never was balanced in the first place: as ALWAYS the game is rigged.
But seven is not just a biblical number, it’s a magical numbers in many different traditions. 7 times 4 is 28 and oh, look! These are days of the lunar month! There are also the days of an "average"(more or less, it's very difficult to define "average" when it comes to menstrual cycles but I digress) menstrual cycle. If I’m not mistaken Elisabeth starts the process in May, during full spring, while things precipitate at the beginning of winter… on Dec 31st, New Year’s Eve according the solar calendar.
As I’ve said, this movie, at least to me, speaks about time and its cycles and specifically about how societal time is not in tune with nature's time. Elisabeth is 50 and, even if it’s not said, it’s implied that she’s reached menopause, aka the end of her menstrual cycle, a cycle of life that society has decided to be the period when a woman stops being a palatable object of desire. A period of life that's undesirable. Fertility and desire are connected in a way that’s supposed to be ā€œnormalā€ and ā€œnaturalā€ but that it’s clearly not. On the other hand, Sue is not a better version of Elisabeth but the version of Elisabeth that society deems palatable. Society wants to eat Sue and Sue wants to eat Elisabeth and be done with her.
One of the things that I loved about the movie is that it used the snake symbolism in such a brilliant way, like I was ā€œwoah!ā€. ā€œThe Substanceā€ starts with one egg that, after being pricked with a syringe containing the Activator, becomes two. Moving on, the chicken has a prominent role in the story and it’s mainly associated with Elisabeth, but I really, really enjoyed how the film subtextually framed Sue as a snake that doesn’t eat eggs/chickens but that… eats herself.
Sue doesn’t come from Elisabeth’s rib but from her spinal column. The scar that’s left on Elisabeth’s body is serpentine in form and, of course, it is believed that the Kundalini snake ā€œrestsā€ at the beginning of the spine, in the lumbar area, and, if awaken, raises its head until it reaches the skull. Sue and Elisabeth, but specifically Sue because of her misuse and her desire to eat Elisabeth/herself, feed off the other’s cerebrospinal fluid that’s collected via a lumbar puncture. So what Sue is basically doing is feeding off Elisabeth’s Kundalini energy, which is a sexual energy. An energy, thus, very much connected to desire, fertility and pleasure.
Another thing that I have ADORED is precisely that, the choice of the cerebrospinal fluid. I mean, the easiest, most obvious way would be using blood for its blatant reference to menstrual blood and life but not! Fargeat knows what she’s doing and, instead, she uses the bathroom as the primary location in the show but she doesn't use blood to show Elisabeth and Sue's relationship. I can’t speak for everyone but personally, as a woman, a girl and a kid I’ve always had the closest relationship with bathrooms. I used to do everything in the bathroom, even to hide there and this is what Elisabeth/Sue also does to the point that Sue fucking builds a secret room inside her bathroom to...hide herself/Elisabeth. Genius!!!
Of course, blood is still central in the movie but its main usage is saved for the last scene. Monstro ElisaSue doesn’t make it to the new year because Time as construed by society doesn’t allow monstrosity. Elisabeth and Sue can live provided that they are separate and they obey and respect the balance. They cannot live together, in fact living together as in One person is seen as a monstrosity. You, quite literally, cannot be yourself AND the self society deems it's your "better version". Humans must stay divided, severed, separated in themselves first and foremost because the balance feeds off this separation, this is why the game must stay rigged. If there’s nothing to compare against there is no need for a scale.
So yeah, to me this movie is surely about the issues with the beauty industry today but this is just a facet of a bigger, deeper, more complex issue: cycles can only happen in nature, they’re just a convention because we need a calendar to mark the days and control the people but the same people cannot live their natural cycles. Life itself is denied to them. They must stay young and beautiful and perfect. Forever.
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Dom x Colson (Yungblud x Machine Gun Kelly)
Warnings: ABO dynamics (knots, slick, heats, mpreg), alpha serial killer/hitman Dom, omega mob boss Kells, awkward boys, threats, cursing, mentioned murders, mentioned drug use, teasing, family talks, sharing clothes, Mod being terrified, a surprisingly pleasant outting, Collette and Tom being helpful saints, a lot of tears, hurt/comfort, feels, so many feels, past abuse (physical and sexual), MF being awful (seriously bad), past underage sex, past inebriated sex, Kells being re-traumatized, baby talks, Collette being an amazing mom, Kells being sick, Kells in denial, cuddles, enemies to lovers šŸ’£ Rating: mature
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Thankfully nothing happened right in the moment. Colson had hidden his face against Dom's neck and Tom- the saint that he was, stepped in. ā€œMod love, not right now. We have to pack. Did I tell you how Dom and I met?ā€ The poor lost beta shook his head and looked as if his heart was hurting. It didn't make any sense to Kells. The Alpha thought that might be a good starting point for a gentle threat, if the man knew who he was he would know not to spread any sensitive information around. He hoped it would be like knowing a secret about Persephone, would anyone risk pissing off Hades?
Colson didn't completely pull away, he made sure to stop anything from progressing below the belt but he kept the killer close as they escaped to his room. The place was stark and plain, Dom had never seen the point in decorating because it never felt like home. The omega still gave him a look. ā€œYou really are a psycho.ā€
ā€œSociopaf. You okay?ā€ He tried to ask but the older man just flipped him off.
ā€œLater. At home. He- It'll be fine. Right?ā€ Col’s voice went soft and Dom could feel the pleading eyes from behind dark shades. He wanted to make it all better but short of killing the beta…
ā€œCourse. Tom don't like bad people and he's got a good radar. It'll be fine. So none of ā€˜em know?ā€ He asked gently, there was something nagging at his mind but he couldn't pick it out of his brain. It was like a thought on the tip of his tongue he couldn't articulate. He tried to let it go before it drove him mad.
ā€œJust mom. We hid it from everyone else. Fuck- not now. At home. Nowā€¦ā€ Kells trailed off as he opened the closet. It was a mess of course, an external visual of Dom’s internal chaos but the omega just sighed and started tossing stuff into a box. ā€œFuck I wanna curl up in this and never leave.ā€
They both froze and the Alpha had to clear his throat and walk away. He knew he'd keep that statement safe in his memory forever but he wouldn't embarrass his mate. Were his nesting instincts kicking in already or was he just that in love? Considering how much they bickered it wasn't like the mob boss to be nice.
ā€œI thought being a hitman would make you good money. I'm not saying you don't have style but shit babe, does any of this have an actual label? I told you, you don't understand the finer shit.ā€ And there he was, Dom's catty lover. It was almost a comfort to be insulted.
Kells could feel his cheeks still pink and he hoped most of it was covered by his glasses. Why the fuck would he let himself say that? He couldn't help breathing deep calming breaths, being surrounded by his boy’s scent was intoxicating. Dom didn't have to know it though.
The rest of the time at their flat moved surprisingly fast. They didn't even need that many boxes. Tom had more things but most of Dom's life fit into a box or two. He hid his knives safely in a pile of his clothes and was pretty sure he caught his omega huffing his most recently worn shirt. Of course he didn't say anything, he liked his dick where it was. Mod very carefully didn't look at him but Dom made sure to step into his personal space at least a few times. It wasn't just Colson he was protecting, the beta was a little too friendly to his brother as well. He wouldn't pass judgment until they all talked, if the man handled the truth well he'd give his silent blessing. He wasn't that daft, he'd never tell Tom what to do anymore than he would his lover, again he liked his body parts attached. He knew how easy it was to take the human form apart.
The ride to their new home was quiet and awkward. All four of them packed into the bucket seat. Thankfully it was only a few blocks to the Four Seasons but it felt like miles to Kells. He'd sent a text to his mother who wasn't exactly helpful. Collette had been telling him for years to let at least one or two of his friends in. She basically just said ā€˜that’s what you get’, but when they arrived at the hotel she was waiting for them.
It only took a few carts to move everything upstairs and they had people for that. Col knew they needed to stop the distractions but before they all talked he led his lover into his favorite place in his home. Dominic paused as he stepped inside the closet that was far bigger than his last bedroom. Everything was perfectly arranged by color and type and the scent felt like heaven. There wasn't exactly a lot of room left for him but enough for what he had, he just didn't want to waste anymore time. He could unpack anytime. ā€œWhere's ya dream car Barbie?ā€ He teased his mate to help ground the man and got a soft chuckle back.
ā€œI'm just Ken.ā€ Kells shrugged, flipping him off but thankfully he finally started to let himself relax. The sunglasses were tucked away in a drawer lined with dozens, his bloody clothes were dropped in a basket, and he'd blessedly rid himself of guns the moment they were inside.
Dom watched the mask slip away with the armor of his faux Alpha garb. When Colson was bare and just him again it helped something relax in the boy's chest. Silently the omega gave him a look that said more than his mouth could. If Dom didn't strip off his messy clothes and change he'd be in trouble. He was honestly surprised he hadn't been hosed down before being granted entrance to this safe haven of fabric and fluff. He was starting to realize maybe the fashion wasn't just carefully cultivated to hide his lover, maybe it really was just him and the older man was letting him see that.
He set to work undressing and trying to be careful not to drip. He was pretty sure everything had already dried but he didn't want to risk it. He didn't notice his partner getting into one of the boxes until he turned to see Col wearing one of his shirts and holding- oh fuck. A gift Tom had given him for his birthday. A picture of the two of them with the date written on the back. It was obviously his birthday because the other omega had tried to embarrass him with candles and balloons all around with the number printed in bold. It had happened only a month before they met. ā€œMostly twenty my ass. You're a baby.ā€ The omega muttered but he didn't seem terribly upset.
ā€œAin't no difference between nineteen and twenty. Not really.ā€ He tried to shrug. So what if he was closer to one than the other? It was just a bloody year. Not even. ā€œAin't gonna let you use it as a distraction to fight me. Put ya pants on and ā€˜and give me a shirt. We talking to ya bruv.ā€
Colson was insulted by how completely right his lover was, Dom didn't have to call him out like that. He set the picture aside to have it framed and stood to find the boy a top. ā€œHow about this?ā€ He asked, pulling one of his tees out of a drawer and he held it up to display. The bastard of course just shrugged, it wasn't like he understood the difference on any of it. ā€œI'm ashamed of you. I'm ashamed I've let you into my inner sanctum. You don't deserve it.ā€
Dom's brows furrowed. ā€œWeird fing to call ya cunt.ā€ Of course he was hit in the face with the top but he made his man laugh and that's all that mattered. ā€œWhen I were a kid I always fhought when I could afford a Westwood I'd feel free.ā€ He offered something true of himself. He'd always been a bit of a punk but his father of course wouldn't let him. It was too feminine. ā€œDad said Alpha's didn't dress like tha’.ā€
ā€œOf course you think that's expensive. You're adorable, you know that?ā€ Kells teased to keep the mood light but he took the tee back from Dom and moved to another drawer. The next thing he pulled out was a white top with a fake Mickey Mouse print. ā€œHere, I have a few.ā€ He tried not to focus on the way the kid looked at him, he was pretty sure there was an extra sheen to those jade eyes. When he caught a sniffle he stepped away, giving Dom a moment to himself as he found them both shorts.
The Alpha slipped the fabric over his head and looked in the mirror. He normally hated seeing himself but for once it felt… right. Especially when Col stepped up next to him. Was it possible for him to not hate himself now that he finally felt accepted? It could simply be the rush he always felt after a kill but he didn't think so. ā€œI think it fits you. You're welcome to look around and use whatever. Just not when you-ā€
ā€œDon't get anyfing messy, I know.ā€ Dom laughed, taking the offered shorts and getting dressed before he took his mate's hand in his own. ā€œYou know ā€˜ey waiting for us. Come on. No matter wha’ I don't fink he'll tell anyone else. I won't let ā€˜im.ā€ It was sobering to bring them back to reality but someone had to and both Tom and Collette were the type to drag them out if they lingered too long. After a moment Kells nodded. It had to work out either way. He just hoped it didn't end up in another mess.
The three others were already waiting in the living room when they entered, Mod trying to look calm but he was obviously anxious. The beta looked surprised to see Colson so dressed down and it made him realize it was the first time he'd let the man in his home. Fuck, how much had he held back to hide himself? Could he truly call anyone a friend? He hoped after they talked the other man would finally feel like one again but he'd understand if it was too much.
ā€œMod dear, may I ask what you think you heard?ā€ Collette took control of the situation when no one else spoke. She hated seeing her boys so scared. It gave the pair a moment to get settled and Dom was pleased when Col stayed close.
ā€œNothing. I… I didn't hear anything. Please boss? I didn't hear anything you didn't want me to.ā€ Well fuck if they were all that scared of him then he definitely didn't have any family. Just underlings.
ā€œYou heard me hitting on my mate. My Alpha mate.ā€ Col tried to make himself explain.
ā€œNot if you didn't want me to.ā€
ā€œNo Mod. Shit! I'm not gonna kill you. Would you calm the fuck down?ā€
ā€œI might.ā€ Dom offered and was swatted on the leg for his help.
ā€œHe won't either. You're like a brother to me. Hell, we grew up together. I've known you since I was thirteen!ā€ His voice broke a little but he was more upset with himself than anyone else. He was starting to realize he was still letting his bastard father control him no matter how far away or how long he'd been without him. What image did his boys have of him? He'd always thought he and Mod were closer but maybe he should have thought twice. He hadn't even heard the guy call him by name since he took his role as the head of the family.
The beta shook where he sat and they didn't know if it was from fear or anger or both. It wasn't until tears welled in his eyes that Col realized it might even be from pain. ā€œObviously fucking not or you'd know you can trust me. With anything! But you don't. You never have.ā€
Kells swallowed hard and felt Dom squeeze his hand. They were sitting and touching almost everywhere on the couch and the Alpha was obviously fighting himself not to be too overprotective. ā€œI haven't. I haven't let you know me at all and that's on me. You've never shown me anything but that you'd be cool with me. I- I'm sorry about that.ā€
Mod hadn't been looking at him but he finally did, the tension in him relaxing a little. ā€œI'm fucking cool. You should know that shit already. I'm not a dick. When have I ever made it seem like I don't respect the fuck out of omegas?ā€ There it was. The word that scared Colson his whole life. The title he'd fought so hard against for so long.
He couldn't help his own eyes misting but he tried to swallow the lump in his throat before it got worse. ā€œYou do. I know you do but they-ā€
ā€œI'm not them Colson! I was friends with you, that's why I'm fucking here. I barely knew your dad and I don't like most of our damn job! I like that we save people but I never would have done this if not for you! So don't fucking lump me in with the rest of your gun toting buddies. You should have known you could trust me. I mean shit, I just wanted to smoke weed with my best friend and chill.ā€
They both laughed wetly at that. They'd met because Col used to sell pot for Travis. They'd bonded over music and spent most of their time together until Mod was just part of the gang. Literally. Kells didn't realize how much that bothered his brother and he vowed to work on that. If the man wanted to just stay back with Tom he'd get them set up with their own office. Maybe even start a rule no one had to carry if they didn't want to.
ā€œSo… mated huh?ā€ The beta tried to change the subject and ease the heavy weight in the room. He'd always been good at calming the boss and helping him remember that he didn't always have to be on. He could relax and be himself too. It normally included good weed but he didn't smell it in the home anymore and he wasn't going to ask. He shouldn't. Shit he probably would.
ā€œI'd say it was an accident but-ā€ Col shrugged and leaned against his lover a little more.
ā€œTechnically yeah. You fucking bit me the day we met.ā€ Dom teased, testing the waters of what was allowed with a gentle kiss to his mate's temple.
ā€œWhich was you coming to kill him right?ā€ Oh so Tom had really filled him in.
ā€œWell… yeah. But I fhought he were selling omegas. I didn't fink he'd be keeping me.ā€
ā€œOh you think I'm keeping you?ā€ The omega huffed playfully. He couldn't let Dom get an ego or anything.
ā€œConsidering all I already did to claim yas yeah. I'd jus’ follow you if you tried to kick me out.ā€ It was stated so matter of fact and Col knew it was true. He had done it already for weeks.
ā€œDo you want help telling everyone else? I mean they're gonna find out anyway right?ā€ Mod asked gently. ā€œI mean hell I'm a beta and I can smell the difference on you.ā€
Colson glanced at his best friend and tried so hard not to glare. It was annoying when everyone else just sat back and watched him instead of speaking up. ā€œWe're not there yet.ā€
ā€œBut-ā€
ā€œNo. I can't let Megan find out. She's already trying to push me out.ā€ Kells growled but the name of the bitch made that feeling start back in Dom's mind. What was it?
ā€œI talked to her and convinced her I needed help.ā€ Collette explained. ā€œShe thinks she's seducing a man who runs a gang near here. I told her it was someone we dealt with but that I thought he might be the one stealing from us. She thinks he's a rich fuck who wants what's ours when it's really one of my old friends. He'll let us know if she's really on our side or if she's trying to branch out.ā€
That soothed a lot of the stress in Col’s chest. If Megan was off taking care of that then at least he wouldn't have to deal with her for a while. ā€œThanks mom.ā€
ā€œI told you I'm the brains here.ā€ She smiled but none of them noticed that Dom had gone quiet.
The Alpha finally remembered what he had forgotten and he wasn't sure how to bring it up or even if he should. He wanted to be open with his lover but he knew this would upset him and he'd already been so hurt tonight. Megan knew. Somehow he'd been so enraged with her he hadn't caught it at the time or maybe he hadn't realized none of his mate's friends were supposed to know. She'd said it. Right to his face. She'd called Colson an omega. Oh fuck. ā€œCols… she knows.ā€
Kells turned wide eyes on his mate and almost pulled away. He made a conscious effort not to shut down but it was a near thing. ā€œThe fuck are you talking about?ā€ His voice was flat because if he let any emotion out it might be terror. If she knew… she really had planned to assault him. She knew she could overpower him.
ā€œTha’ night, she uh… she said summat like ā€˜ask your omega'. She implied you fucked ā€˜er so I didn't wanna bring it up.ā€
ā€œEw no! That was the first fucking time we even kissed!ā€
ā€œTha' ain't saying much. You told me you don't like kissing.ā€ Dom huffed softly but his lover was starting to shake.
ā€œI never… I mean I've been fucked up around her before but I don't think… we-ā€
Mod cleared his throat and when they turned to look at him on the couch across from them his eyes looked full of worry. ā€œI think you did, brother.ā€ Even with all the fear building in him it felt good to the omega to hear that word again. He hadn't even realized how long it had been since he last felt like he had one.
ā€œWhat… when?ā€ Colson felt small and lost and he was thankful for the way Dom held him. It wasn't overwhelming, just an arm around his shoulders and a solid line of them touching from knee to ribs.
ā€œI think you were fifteen. Remember your birthday party that year?ā€ Mod offered.
ā€œNo.ā€ Col choked on a noise that was almost a laugh but there was no amusement there.
ā€œYeah I didn't think so. Please know I wouldn't have let you go to bed with her. She was already eighteen and that felt gross to me. I mean to each their own but I wouldn't have fucked you.ā€ Mod tried to make light. ā€œYou know how fucked up I was at the time so I figured we both blacked out that night but the next day I caught her sneaking out of your room. She just winked at me and left but you were still dead to the world and later when everyone acted like nothing had happened I just figured you didn't want to talk about it.ā€
ā€œFuck- I-ā€ Colson's stomach rolled. He was starting to become accustomed to the nausea but it hit him as hard as it did when she tried for him. A second time? Or was there more? Dom gave him a worried look before discreetly tucking his warm palm under his shirt to rest over his inked belly. He wanted to snap at the Alpha but shit it helped.
ā€œI'm sorry Col.ā€ Mod sighed but of course it wasn't his fault.
ā€œIt wasn't on you. Just because you know now doesn't mean you can feel like you should have protected my ass. You just said you respected omegas, don't pull that shit. I'm still me.ā€
ā€œDude chill! I don't mean it cause you're omega, I mean cause you were a kid and I knew you'd been through shit. I'm your big brother asshole.ā€ That shut Colson up because he did know Mod better than that. He was just scared and he hated it.
ā€œOh. Right.ā€ He sighed, trying to release a little tension in his shoulders but he didn't know anything now. Had she always known? Had he fucked her or-
Dom gasped at how quickly his lover was up and off the couch and out of the room. He didn't even know where the man was heading until he heard the bathroom door slam. He hated that his partner was hurting and he couldn't fix it.
ā€œFair is fair.ā€ Collette muttered softly and he looked back at her. He didn't think he was supposed to run after him. ā€œHe was a little jerk to me.ā€ She grinned, happy for a moment in her memory before her face fell. ā€œI hope he can learn to enjoy this time and accept it before he misses it all. I was terrified every day with him because I was so young and his father wasā€¦ā€ She sighed. ā€œI don't want him missing the good things. He'll be able to feel them before long.ā€
Dom shifted on his seat and his knee started bouncing. His hearing was so sensitive he could just make out his mate being sick. It made his need for revenge against the female Alpha burn in his veins but in this he wouldn't make a decision without Kells. ā€œI'm trying.ā€ He tried to soothe her worries but it scared him too. He couldn't fathom the pain Colson had been through as a boy and this might make him regress. He'd do anything he could to help.
When Col finally appeared again his shoulders were hunched and his hand was holding his stomach. Dom tried not to get excited because it looked more as if his mate was trying to hold himself together. ā€œI'm sure it was fine at the time.ā€ The omega huffed but even he barely believed it. Especially if that's when she found out what he was. He never allowed that. ā€œShe probably thought it was. It's whatever.ā€
ā€œI believe it's time I should let you know what Mod and I found. Someone has been stealing from you for a long time. Not large sums but enough to make someone rich. Who is normally dealing with the buys?ā€ Tom offered, but he wasn't truly changing the subject. He was trying to help his new friend see the truth. That woman had never been his friend.
ā€œCan we all shut the fuck up for a minute? It's late and she's busy. Nothing is going to happen tonight. Mod, you're welcome to the couch. Tom, I hope you enjoy your new room. Dom?ā€ He waited until his lover met his gaze. ā€œGet the fuck in bed?ā€
ā€œRight.ā€ The Alpha barely even looked at anyone else before he jumped off the sofa to follow his man's needs.
ā€œMom? Love you. Be good.ā€ He tried to be stern but she just grinned as he kissed her cheek. Colson was shocked when Mod stood up and held out his arms. He didn't force a hug but Kells was happy to accept it. He couldn't even remember the last time they fist bumped for fucks sake.
ā€œYou're doing good kid. I'm proud of you.ā€ The beta whispered against his neck and Col had to fight back the burn in his eyes.
ā€œDon't linger too long. You know who's waiting for him.ā€ Tom joked, tugging on the edge of Mod’s shirt and it made the man jump. The other omega always found it hilarious to watch people be so scared of his best friend. ā€œCome. You can help me unpack.ā€ He offered when the pair stopped hugging and Colson watched as the photographer walked off, putting his hair in a messy bun. He just expected Mod to follow and of course he did.
ā€œYou might have competition on cutest couple soonā€ Collette joked with her son who just laughed wetly and hugged her close without words. ā€œI'm not who you need right now. Don't worry, I'm not offended. That boy loves you both so much.ā€
ā€œMom-ā€
ā€œNo Colson. You listen to me.ā€ She huffed, cupping his cheeks so he couldn't look away. He was a giant now but she still saw her little boy that went through terrible pain and loss. ā€œThis isn't that. They-ā€ She paused and dropped one hand to rest over his still flat stomach. ā€œThey aren't the same. It's okay to be terrified, that won't ever go away. Hell it's been almost thirty years and I'm still always scared for you. But it's alright to be happy too. I can't promise it'll be okay but you're ready now.ā€
ā€œI'm n-ā€
She cut him off. ā€œYou are the bravest man I know and yes the fuck you are. I'm not trying to hurt you, I never would. But your bond starts now. All three of you.ā€ He didn't try and respond but he squeezed her close before disengaging and heading to bed.
Dom had heard every word but he didn't show it, he just held up the blankets like Colson did for him and the omega collapsed next to him. They didn't speak, they didn't need to and both of them were a little too overwhelmed. Kells just turned around to face the wall and fit himself against his lover's chest. He took the Alpha's hand and pressed it against his stomach, he wasn't admitting anything. Not yet. But it was warm and soft and he knew it made the boy happy. Besides, it was comforting as fuck.
Author's Note/Tags: @iamnotanearthlingmotherfucker @hollywoodxwhore @jaxbreaker @fenoy7 @cole-way-iero28 if anyone wants tagged let me know šŸ–¤
This was a bit of a heavy chapter but it had to be to mix in a little plot. I tried to keep them joking around too though so it didn't get too dark. I don't know why I love Tod (Tom/Mod) but it's so cute. There might be a time skip now since we covered so much of a few days. Hopefully Kells feels better. I hope you're enjoying it šŸ’£šŸ–¤
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LO RANT (MASSIVE TRIGGER WARNING):
Okay my rant for today is going to go into somewhat of a triggering topic which is abuse and normally I try to just be very vague about the more heavier things on Lore Olympus when ranting about them just so I don’t have to say the actual words or acts or anything but unfortunately for this rant it’s going to really be hammering into the more abusive side of Hades because this sort of situation between the fans have really been irking me badly.
I absolutely hate it when fans try and say that Hades is not abusive and all of his behaviors are just justified and excused because of all of the things he’s been through. The main argument I’ve seen with this topic is that he’s not an abuser because he’s never abused Persephone or Minthe or any of the women he’s been in a relationship with and honestly this sort of mindset is so incredibly flawed and sort of ignorant in the nicest way possible since abuse comes in many different forms believe me I know. You can be verbally abused, emotionally abused, sexually abused, and more it’s not only domestic violence and I just wish more fans would be aware of that and not just count domestic violence as a valid type of abuse (which granted I completely get and in no way am I saying that it shouldn’t be something that’s a form of abuse that shouldn’t be validated).
That way of thinking just makes no sense at all, if abuse only mattered in intimate relationships then abusive parents, teachers, counselors, etc wouldn’t be considered or validated at all. Just because he doesn’t hit women does not make his actions any less abusive, we’re talking about the man who constantly talks down on and willfully uses violence on those who cannot fight back. He has no problem exploiting his own citizens and cutting off their resources and transportation between realms at the drop of a penny and he definitely does not care about the well being of those who have to work for him. He’s an abusive asshole and his actions are absolutely heinous and incredibly distasteful.
Honestly this just makes me ask the question of why, why is Rachel even putting these elements in her story anyways if she’s not going to address it or try to explore these disgusting aspects of our very society. I’m sorry y’all but I do not believe that she doesn’t believe in half of the things she writes about, normally if someone does not agree with problematic elements in their story they’ll make it a point to try and point out its flaws or at the very least show people that ā€œhey, please do not glorify xyzā€ you know? Like there’s evidence of the creator actively going against the things that they don’t agree with yet Rachel has never come out to say anything. She doesn’t address any of these problematic choices in her own story and instead of actually doing things with them she just keeps them in the story for no fucking reason. The nymphs (who are the lower class might I add and also make up the uncomfortable fantasy racism) should not be sexualized and used as objects for male pleasure. The satyrs and other non gods that live amongst Olympus and the Underworld should not be shown to be in hostile situations by their bosses for literally no other reason other than a few laughs. Persephone should not be sexualized by Rachel every other fucking panel, can we please talk about that soon because it’s getting fairly obvious that Rachel is just using Persephone only to be ogled at and heavily sexualized. The age gap never should’ve happened because again Rachel herself makes it a damn point to remind everyone that Lore Olympus is literally just a ā€œcuteā€ minor x adult fanfic, the whole thing reminds me of lolis and how people defend that shit by saying that they’re adults. And even more stuff but that would be about 400,000 words long at this point.
Anyways, I just want to end this by saying I’m not terribly angry at fans I’m just disappointed and honestly kind of annoyed I wish they would actually reread the things that they’re supporting and defending and actually start to think about what the comic is saying instead of just blindly going along with it. Another point is I do not believe Rachel is the best person and I’d love it if we could finally hold her accountable because I’m sorry but if she genuinely sees no problem with half of this stuff and she’s spreading it around in her award winning 4 million reader comic while there’s an entire fucking community trying to tell her how absolutely harmful and shitty the content is (that she keeps ignoring for a fucking reason might I add) I don’t find myself having much hope that she’s not a bad person, and maybe I am wrong although I genuinely don’t think I am because normally with good people you don’t have to keep wandering and convincing yourself that they’re good since they do that for you by their actions and how she’s been carrying herself these past years have not shown me otherwise.
Edit: With this rant though I do not want to incite any harassment or bullying Rachel’s way because that’s nowhere at all where I was trying to get when I said she needs to be held accountable. Harassment and cyber bullying is genuine asshole behavior and something I really don’t tolerate and besides there’s better ways to hold Rachel accountable that doesn’t require that kind of stuff.
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takaraphoenix Ā· 1 year ago
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The Dead of the Sea
Tags: polyamory (m/m/f), fluff, married life, established relationship
Main Pairing: Hades/Persephone/Percy
@polympians-event Prompt: wedding/marriage.
@hadesxpercy-events Prompt: Royalty.
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Summary: Percy was still adjusting to life as a god and to being married – and married to not just two gods, but the king and queen of the underworld. But he liked his life as royal consort of the underworld.
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Knocking on the door disturbed his thought process. He frowned, he had so much paperwork to deal with – who thought that death came with paperwork, but no, the underworld had a very well organized filing system. The door opened and Thanatos walked in.
"I came to collect today's files, my lord."
"I told you not to call me that. I do not like it."
"You are the lord of the underworld," Thanatos spoke slowly. "You are ruler of the underworld."
"No. Nope, not it," he scrunched up his face. "Hades is the lord of the underworld. Persephone is the lady of the underworld. I am so not."
"You are… married to them. You are a lord of the underworld, a ruler of the underworld."
"I'm Percy. Just Percy. Not Lord Percy, or worse yet Lord Perseus – next minor god to call me that will actually get splashed," Percy pouted ever so slightly. "Please. I saved your life once, I really do think we are on a more personal level than bowing and lord-ing."
A small smile quirked Thanatos' lips at that. "We would be, if you were any other god. But you have become the royal consort of my bosses, and you became a death god. We're colleagues."
"Yeah, do not like that," Percy wiggled his nose. "Ple—ease."
"I will do my best, Lord Percy," Thanatos smirked and bowed ever so slightly. "Paperwork?"
"Ri—ight," Percy sighed and reached over to the files he had finished. "Thank you for going over them for me. I just… am struggling with the whole bureaucracy."
"And the spelling," Thanatos cleared his throat. "I don't mind helping you settle in. Though I'm sure your husband wouldn't mind helping you out either."
"I don't want Hades to know," Percy flushed in embarrassment. "He does not need to see my typos. Or that I am struggling with this. I just need a little guidance on how to file out all this stuff and then I will learn. I am a quick learner, so."
"You are," Thanatos offered him a genuine smile. "I'll go over these, see if you made any mistakes and we'll talk about them later, okay? Meanwhile, I am fairly sure that I saw your wife pace quite impatiently in the garden, I think our queen is bored."
That made Percy perk up some. "Okay, awesome. Talk to you tomorrow. Bye."
He could hear Thanatos chuckling even as he zoomed past the other death god. Other death god. Because that's what Percy was now. A death god. Specifically, he was responsible for the dead who had died at sea. It was the perfect role for him, considering that the only reason why he had accepted godhood was because he was stupidly, madly, deeply in love with the king and queen of the underworld and had accepted their proposal, after five years of dating, courting and sneaking in and out of the underworld palace.
It was supposed to only be sex. Mostly because Percy was well-aware of the gods' track-record with demigods and mortals. And he was fine with that. Persephone was the most beautiful woman on and below the surface of this world. Hades was so hot, with that dangerous edge as well as that aura of authority. Percy had been easily seduced by them, especially considering the circumstances – he'd moved to New Rome for college, which was such a change in his life, and everybody else was moving on with their own lives too, so he kind of grew apart with most of his friends, on account of where life was taking them and how busy it kept them. Not fully losing contact, but it became more of a monthly meeting thing where they used to see each other every week.
He'd been more involved in Olympian matters, a thing he had demanded after the Giant War, so he ran into Hades on occasion. The attraction was there, but Percy wasn't fool enough to get involved with a married god. Until Hades propositioned him with his wife.
It wasn't a one time thing though. They hooked up repeatedly. And when those hook ups became more frequent, they also started getting longer. Including breakfast in the morning, dinner before the hook up, a movie between dinner and sex. Until it wasn't just sex anymore, it had evolved into a full relationship. It took a little longer for them all to admit that though.
Their relationship was good. At one point though, Hades and Persephone wanted more. They started to court him with the intend of making him their consort. Percy resisted, as long as he could, because… he didn't think they really meant it. Flings with mortals were one thing, but marriage. They'd get over it, he though. They did not. They only grew more persistent. Until he accepted that they really did want him, loved him, wanted him at their side for eternity.
Their wedding was the event of the millennia, everyone was there – Percy's family and friends, of course, demigods from both camps, gods of the underworld, the sea and Olympus. And by becoming their consort, he became a god. Which meant he needed a realm.
Now, he was a son of Poseidon, the sea was a big part of who he was. But he was also the consort of king and queen of the underworld, so becoming a sea god seemed not very practical for his marriage. He'd asked Annabeth for help, because his best friend was the smartest person he knew. Together, they'd figured out the perfect solution for Percy. A death god, bound to the sea. Guiding the lost souls who had died at sea to the afterlife.
And that was perfect. Until he realized there was actual paperwork filed for every soul that entered or left the underworld. This was the part of the underworld that actually felt like hell. Bureaucracy.
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Persephone was a goddess of spring, arguably also winter. The transition between them, really. A goddess of seasons, her companions and friends were the seasonal horae. There was a lot of busy work to be done on the surface. But summer and autumn were her time off, her vacation time, the time she got to spend in the underworld, with her husbands – used to be only one, until her and Hades had fallen in love with this cheeky, snarky, strong-willed, beautiful son of Poseidon.
And she loved spending time with them. She loved the underworld, it was as much her home as Olympus was. However, while her work was seasonal, both her husbands were death gods and death didn't take seasonal breaks. People kept dying. So while she had nothing to do, they still both had their jobs to do, which left her with more free time at her hands. And she had friends in the underworld, of course. Hecate above all else, but also Thanatos, Eris, others. So it wasn't that she didn't know what to do with herself when her lovers were busy.
There was, however, only so much time she could spend hanging out with her friends, reading books, cooking, walking the dogs. At one point, she was all caught up with her friends and had done everything there was to do, and still Hades and Percy were in their respective offices, working.
"Hello, my queen. You look… like you could use some non-furred company."
Arms wrapped around her waist and she had to smile as she leaned against her young consort. "I could. As much as I love the puppy-kisses, I find your kisses much more appealing."
Turning around in his arms, she stole a proper kiss from Percy, who was all too willing to melt into her. One of the things she loved about him. He was very compliant. Soft and gentle, as a lover, eager to let her take the lead. And she'd always liked to take charge in the bedroom. Now, she had two adoring death gods wrapped around her little fingers.
"Are you done with your work for today?" Persephone asked, her hands wandering down Percy's chest and around his waist so she could pull him closer. "Are you all mine now?"
"I am always all yours, Phone," Percy grinned as he leaned his head against her shoulder. "But yes, I'm all done with work for today. You, still busy with the dogs…?"
Both of them turned toward where Zerberus was chasing Mrs. O'Leary. One of the things that had bonded the triad was their shared love for dogs. The fact that Percy had love and appreciation for 'monsters' of the underworld – Mrs. O'Leary, his hell-hound, and Small Bob, the skeletal cat – had truly warmed Hades' heart and made him fall all the harder.
"I mean, we had walkies, and I have been throwing squeaky toys for like half an hour," Persephone tilted her head. "I do think they had enough exercise for now."
"So, you're saying we could go and bother our husband?" Percy grinned wickedly.
"He's working. The thing you were doing until just now yourself."
"Ye—eah, but I think I still have new-spouse-privileges of being allowed to bother my husband at work and stealing him away," Percy pecked Persephone's cheek. "Wanna be my accomplice?"
Persephone laughed and then whistled for their dogs. "Always, my love."
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One of the best things Percy had brought into this marriage – beside himself – was his wonderful cat. Hades, though being a famous dog owner, was very much also a cat person. He liked to work with Small Bob curled together on his lap. Patting the cat was very soothing for him.
"Mreow?" Small Bob raised his head when the door creaked open. "Mew!"
The door opened farther. Hades ignored it and continued working. Someone stood to his left and someone else to his right, both pressing against him. He continued working. The underworld would not be functioning and running if he allowed his beloved wife to distract him. Someone kissed his cheek, the ocean scent tipping him off to which of his consorts it was. Persephone on his other side slowly ran a hand down Hades' chest. Oh, this was evil. Now there were two of them, and they were teaming up on him to distract him from his work.
"No," Hades frowned annoyed. "I am working. Can't you keep each other occupied?"
"Oh, we could," Percy's voice was a teasing purr. "We really can busy ourselves, with each other."
Okay, that one was fully on Hades, he had set himself up for this. Both Persephone and Percy moved away from him and instead turned toward each other, Percy resting one arm around their wife's neck, while Persephone had her arms around Percy's waist. And then they kissed. Not just a peck. They were teasing him. Baiting him. Heaving a sigh, he put his paperwork down.
"You win," Hades glared at them. "You are not a good influence for each other. Or me."
Both his loves simply laughed and attached themselves to him. Both so cheeky, beautiful, tempting and absolutely impossible to deny. Hades leaned in to kiss them both, smiling a little to himself.
~*~ The End ~*~
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starlight-phantom Ā· 4 months ago
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For the fanfic ask game: 5, 7, 8 (for Under the Waves please!) and 10!
5 - What’s something you learned while researching a fic?
I don't really know? I either learn some random fact and it stays with me for the rest of my life or it just bounces off my brain never to be seen again... I guess I've learned a lot about mythology thanks to mostly writing for Persona? I mean I already knew a fair bit about Greek mythology because I was that kid growing up, but I've really enjoyed learning about the mythology and folklore from other cultures.
7 - Coffee or tea while you write?
Tea, I don't really drink coffee. Although, yesterday I learned that I actually quite like black coffee with brown sugar so who knows? I may end up drinking more of it. I still prefer tea though.
8 - What is your favorite line/section from [insert fic]?
I'm honestly not sure? I think if I had to pick a single section it would be between 1)Tobei saying bye to his parents, specifically his mum, because I wanted to convey how their relationship is strained because while they do love each other, the way his mother babies him has left him resenting her slightly because it makes him feel useless and as if she doesn't trust him to make his own decisions, but he can't bring himself to voice those feelings because he knows she means well, and I think I did an okay job of conveying the basics of that.
2) Tobei's awakening. I find action stuff so difficult to write (I think that's the main thing that ruined my Kosei AU for me) but since awakenings are a little more character focused, they're a little bit easier. Not to mention, I enjoyed describing Tobei's outfit and Persephone's appearance.
And 3) Tobei and Aki's conversation after Tobei wakes up in the hospital. I was trying to think about how both boys would feel like Tobei feels guilty for spooking Aki and worried that know Aki knows about his condition, he's going to baby him like everyone else, whereas Aki... I mean... He met this cute, tiny guy yesterday after almost accidentally knocking him down stairs with his skateboard, he ran off because he heard a weird voice, they ended up in some bizarre version of their town, they got attacked by demons, this tiny guy saved his life with a demon of his own and then once they got back, he collapsed and Aki thought he had died. So needless to say, his brain was pretty scrambled. But I wanted to get across the respect Aki has for Tobei and how, while he wants to investigate that world, he doesn't want to push Tobei into anything dangerous.
And I suppose as an added bonus, I'm quite proud of the Velvet Room segments, I think I did okay describing Tobei's version of the Velvet Room. Although I am surprised that no one made any comments about Mikaela because I don't think I was subtle.
10 - Is there a character or ship you'd love to write for, but haven't yet?
Oh, a lot, I'm just not sure how to write them...
For characters, I really want to write Minato more. Considering how much I adore him, it's a crime that I've only written him like twice? I have so many ideas, I just never know how to convey them.
I'd love to write Zen and Rei from Persona Q because goddammit more people need to acknowledge what amazing characters they are and if fics would draw people's attention, then fine.
And this last one's a little weird. I've had this idea for years because I keep putting it off because who the hell would be interested in it besides me, but I really wanna write a fic that's Ren x Newspaper Girl. That girl is the only bitch I respect in Shujin, and considering how she's one of the few people that actually gives Ren the time of day, I just feel like that could be a cute pair.
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quickdeaths Ā· 9 months ago
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It was easy enough to send the picture over, and Persephone nodded along as she collected her bags. There was always such tension between packing light enough to easily carry around, and making sure she brought everything she might need. Other people probably planned out their outfits in advance, so it was easy to bring only the necessities, but Persephone preferred looking at an open closet or suitcase and feeling the sense of Spontaneous Inspiration. For her, at least, it helped to keep from falling into a rut of gravitating towards the same looks over and over.
When she was finished, the collection of bags and suitcases seemed a bit unwieldy, but could be stacked and locked and tied in such a way that made it a bit more manageable. "Okay, good to go," she said with an affirming nod, pulling along her things tentatively at first, then with a bit more force once it was clear that nothing was going to fall out of place. She'd sort of expected that Chaesun would have a car, but the lack thereof wasn't the end of the world, even if Persephone thought she probably looked A Little Ridiculous to any onlookers.
Well, at least she'd work up an appetite, and the more she heard about the wings, the more it sounded like they'd hit the spot. "Oh, I see," she murmured as she listened. "I heard that Korea is supposed to have good spicy food, so I'm totally looking forward to it." Not that she was any kind of chile head or anything, but food that had that kind of Extra Kick always reminded her of her dad's home cooking. "I wish I had more time here to like, eat all the things people say you should try. I'll have to try and come back sometime. You'll invite me again sometime, right?" That part was just teasing, at least. Mostly.
As they walked, Chaesun's explanation helped at least partially put her at ease. Parties, she could do. Even if she really didn't consider herself much of an extrovert, she had Blown Up (in so far as a mid-tier fashion girlie could be considered having Blown Up) with club looks and having a Face Card That Never Declined (allegedly, given that Persephone could definitely think of some examples where it had). "Sounds like a plan. I take tons of pictures so I can like, max out my phone storage." She gave a small laugh. If that was really all that was wanted of her, then she could do that much, and the point about making connections was a good one. "You'll just have to promise to take some pictures with me then, since I cannot in good conscience allow such an Undiscovered Beauty to go un-photographed."
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She giggled as Chaesun rambled about food. "I'm honestly starving too, so you're fine." As for the plane... "Air Canada does this thing on international flights with these multi-course meals and stuff, but honestly, I feel Super Ick if I eat too much on a plane, so I just had a salad and a cookie." The pork bulgogi that had been offered her looked good, but she definitely didn't regret passing on the tuna sandwich that had been brought later as a snack. Once they were in the restaurant, she found an out-of-the-way spot for her things, giving an apologetic smile and wave to any other patrons she had to pass by, before returning to Chaesun's side. "You're the expert, so you can just order whatever is good, and I'll eat it, okay?" It wasn't like she could read the menu much anyway.
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⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀Heat gathered in her cheeks when she was complimented. The photo was adorable! I f one were to look at it without context, they'd think the two girls were already good friends. No wonder she was such a natural at her job! Being great at artful photos is one thing, but taking good selfies was an art of its own. Chaesun hadn't yet perfected such a method, so some of her pictures, while pretty, were occasionally on the awkward side. " Pretty ? Me ? That means a lot coming from you ! " The visitor may not be a huge celebrity in the normal sense, but a good chunk of the passes still admired her. This was the first party guest the new coordinator procured on her own. Normally, the RFA members would recommend them to her, but the took the initiative with this one. Hopefully everyone would continue to approve. Sending the adorable selfie in the chat should reassure them should they have any doubts, especially since Persephone had already come this way.
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⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀Fluster had given way to a sunshiny grin. It was so much easier reading people when screens weren't in their way. " If you wouldn't mind ! It's such a cute picture , it'd be a shame not to have it in my camera roll . " An attempt was made to stifle a sigh of relief when her concerns about special diets. That meant she could show and recommend the best dishes for her trip. Chaesun welled with pride thinking about all the cool highlights on her Insta that she'd be responsible for. " Awesome ! Fried wings it is then . We can get some sweet , and some spicy . " She motioned for the other to follow her. In spite of her blurred peripheral vision, she knew exactly where her favorite wing shop was from the airport. First, she'd begin to lead her to the luggage claim. " The cool thing about Korean fried chicken is that it's less greasy , and a lot lighter . I'm like , obsessed with it . " Patiently, she waited for Persephone to gather everything she brought with her so that they could head out to the restaurant.
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀Thinking a little more about the discussion as they exited the airport and walked together, her gaze moved to the bright-haired woman. " Don't think of it like that . This is a party to raise money for charity , and you're one of our guests . I'm nobody's boss ; just someone who wants to show you a fun time as thanks for helping those in need . We have a lot of high profile guests , too . I bet you could make some connections from this . I think the only thing I ask is that you take lots of pictures for social media , and I'll have our tech expert set up a link so that your fans can donate to the cause . Other than that , we want you to enjoy Korea , and have a nice time ! " She loved making a difference in the world with this new job, but she wasn't sure she was as good at seeming like a business woman in person. Online it was easy because there was time to find the proper words and do the research necessary. Her earnestness was endearing, sure, but had she sent for a more high-class or eccentric guest, who knows how this would have gone?
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀The wing shop was only a block down from the airport, making it a high traffic destination. Regardless, she couldn't deny a foreigner one of the best parts of the country she lived in. The fish-shaped bread was often sold at stalls on the street, so they didn't have to walk far to find that either. " Anyway , A lot of my friends like fish-shaped bread . There are fish-shaped buns filled with red bean paste . Super yummy . I can tell it's lunchtime with how often I keep talking about food. Did they have meals on the flight ? I've heard mixed things about airline food these days . " It had been a long time since she had visited any of her relatives in America . . . There was no reason to go back there now. As they came to the entrance of the establishment, she opened the door for her new acquaintance.
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iironcrown-blog Ā· 8 years ago
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That moment you’re making a mobile banner for someone and you want to add extra oopf to it and turns into mmmmmmm.Ā 
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minthe-lover Ā· 3 years ago
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Chapter 220 analysis
This chapter has... alot I don't like and a few small small things that I do like but it's still pretty bad. At first there is this really weird repeated panel.. like usually the repeated panels have like a small difference or are slightly zoomed in but these ones are just 100% full repeats and it sucks cause it's just lazy.
Like two of the panels even have the same speak bubble... the only difference is a few small changes in the sides. It's annoying and clearly lazy... like.. at least change how high he is holding the staff thing to show how each failed attempt weighs on him. It would be so easy... change his stance or fuck change the way his hair is. Any change at all!
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As for all the tartarus stuff I don't fully mind it as cause though I'm not sure how I feel about the kronos plot will continues. Though I don't mind the direction cause at least it's somewhat interesting and is going to be used to bring hera back into the story. Plus who knows since rs would loves to get teenagers dating old men maybe Hebe will get into a relationship now she's 18/very very heavy sarcasm.
Though I really do wish it would have been made clear how this happened, I mean during the kronos fight it was shown pretty clearly that tartarus is strong then kronos... though who knows maybe it was just all Persephone magic womb powers!
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Also another note the goofy faces in this chapter especially with hades and hecate really break any seriousness or tension that can be built with his chapter. Along with hades just... extremely pointy shoes.. like why are they so pointy this chapter.. they are god damn clown shoes.
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Now onto something that I do like about this chapter! is that Persephone is still effected by apollo, do I think it's moved on from a bit to quickly but I do like it shown. Her being shaken from seeing him and getting effected despite her own experiences I like. It's realistic and again a good point in the chapter. Though small note did persephone ever get her drivers license.. should she really be driving?
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Now comes the worst god damn part of this chapter which makes me want to rip my hair out. Cause you know persephone the supposedly kind heart person decided it would be best to threaten a worker that she knew TEN years ago that she had a slightly bad experience with.
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Though you know what lets look at the so terrible things he did to persephone! since they are clearly so bad that persephone feels the need to threaten a worker. Well their first interaction he's is already completely terrified of her which makes complete sense considering the info he knows. He knows that he is most likely closely connected to hades a king that has been shown to not exactly be the nicest to people underneath to him. Plus how him and his brothers are known for sleeping around so again an understandable assumption.
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Now their 'friendship' starts with persephone offering to help him with some home work.. right after he got insulted by the teacher. Which this is when I'm first going to bring up persephone massive privilege. She's a goddess from a rich family that is extremely smart and respected, tori in like a second episode with him is fucking insulted. There is a huge difference between their lives and how they are treated.
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Then alex roommate gets fucking kidnapped, tortured and his god damn eye is ripped out!! it's fucking clear that tori is clearly horribly effected by this, and it's all fucking legal as well! hades is just fucking allowed to permanently disable someone and the biggest consequence he faces is that persephone gets a bit sad.
Not to mention while alex was being fucking tortured hades and hecate where talking about persephone.. and it makes complete sense why he would think that persephone was the one to make hades do this. Plus it's completely fucking okay if tori didn't want to be friends with someone who is clearly close with a king that repeatedly abuses his power to almost fucking kill his roommate! Like imagine whats going through his mind he could very much be thinking that if he upsets persephone the same thing could happen to him!
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The next time persephone sees him she chases after him when he tried to run away, and then grabbed him which like.. I don't care how persephone is blind to these sort of things it's clear that he trying to get away from her and is clearly terrified so yeah his reaction is 100% understandable. He's scared for his life and the life of his friend, and is setting an understandable clear boundaries. He made a large assumption for his safety and that's okay.
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Now again, persephone is in a position of power and when tori mentions both that and how in universe her name kinda just makes the situation worse. Again it's the equivalent of you knowing someone is like probably in a relationship with the prime minister and the prime minister is also legally allowed to fucking torture people and has proved that he is more then willing to do so on the behalf for that person. Yeah I wouldn't exactly be the sweetest while talking about that person.
Not to mention that persephone response to this is how it must not be true, and it is there must be some sort of misunderstanding. Like tell me persephone what the fuck is the misunderstanding here, that the person who got fucking kidnapped doesn't know what one of four kings look like??
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The last thing we see of tori is this panel (I think), Where we just have tori and one of his friend whispering behind persephone. Like yeah how terrible of them... we aren't even shown what their talking about. Now I'm going to talk about the last line that persephone said to tori. Where tori was talking about her behind her back "during one of the hardest time of her life" Which is a terrible point because tori didn't know any of that shit! He barely knew perse before he starting avoiding persephone, they studied once together and supposedly that's enough for his actions to be deemed as truely terrible.
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Now the main problem with this confrontation is how both tori is probably one of the people who've done like the least shity things to her. Along with the fact that.. he's at his job, it's not like he ever misstreated her when he was working but because persephone decided to basically threaten and scare him at his work he can't do anything. Again persephone is extremely privileged, shes a powerful queen that could seriously fuck him up if she wanted to... he's in a position were he can't stand up for himself.
It's a weird power fancy that would have been better written to be directed at any other character. Persephone doesn't seem like she's some strong girl boss, it just comes off as cruel and kicking someone beneath her that never did anything to cruel for him.
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Plus persephone doing stuff like pulling her stats as queen of the underworld to again threaten a worker. Which as hecate said when alex eye was ripped out, mean that she could FUCKING TORTURE HIM and it would be perfectly legal. It's a fuck up abuse of power that persephone is using... especially taking into account how tori could very much be traumatized from seeing his roommate attacked in such a way.
In the end persephone actions are cruel and don't fit into the whole "perse is so kindhearted". This is an abuse of power.. and if persephone is supposed to be some great leader that cares for the everyone.. then why is she acting like this.
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Now moving onto the last problem/thing I like about this chapter is. I like that persephone has payed for her own home.. but I'm really annoyed for the reason she got to be able to do that. While yes on the surface she did pay for it herself.. it's still because of hades. She got a bank account because of hades, she got payed for an internship because of hades... and she didn't really earn most of the money she has.
Like at most she worked for 4 weeks.. how high was she paying and how high was the interest that she clearly has a large sum of money given tori's surprised and just immediately get an apartment. Like in an evening... she barely earned this.. she just waited and the just got this money. She still doesn't have a job... and if she is payed for being the queen of the underworld that money is still coming from hades... it sucks.
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yonemurishiroku Ā· 2 years ago
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How do you feel about Will as bi rep (a major issue for me, a bi dude), is it okay or is it kind of the same as the rest of the book?
First, just let me apologize for the agonizing waiting time. This ask is from May 2nd. In my defense, it took me just that exact time to ruminate for the best answer and still I barely have any clue what I'm talking about. I'm not good at this. I'm really not.
Anyway. Back to the point.
At first glance, I think there's another thing we need to address before going into the details of Will as a bisexual. And that is the definition of what, exactly, is considered representation.
Because Idk about you but I have some criterias when it comes to representation.
Sometimes people just write/ draw/ talk/ etc... about something because they want to or they like, you know? It doesn't have to be representation all the time just because they mention it. They don't want to represent, they just want to... express themselves, so to speak.
Imo, if something wants to represent a concept, a community, whatever, it needs 1/ to be done with a certain level of dedication, knowledge, and awareness, 2/ have some focus on their distinctive traits, and 3/ leave a memorable impression on their consumers/ audience. As the main purpose of representation is to include and to show, you should definitely make your appearance count.
Now, do I consider Will's bisexuality representation?
Eh. I don't know.
Tbh I don't have much of an impression of that... I mean. I'm aware. And it's great that Bisexual Will is finally canon after so many headcanons. And that's all. The weigh of the fact is, well, that of a fact. It doesn't leave an imprint on me.
I, personally, don't have a problem with that. As in: I would understand if Rick just want to include a bisexual character (demigod. Bc we all know Apollo and the Greeks is the whole LGBT spectrum). It doesn't have to be something big all the time, really - Kinda like the way Malcomn Pace's, Paulo Montes's, or Jake Mason's sexuality is left up to interpretation.
So, let's just assume that Will is a bi rep. What do I have to say about this?
I'm assuming you're asking specifically about that part of Will and Persephone (since I don't recall anything else...), so I'm gonna follow that path. I just want to make it clear that:
-Whilst slightly baffled, I have nothing against Will being attracted to Persephone.
-I don't consider it a good choice as bisexual representation.
The first point I have explained in another ask that: as long as it makes sense and fits into the plot - as in, plot-wise, logically - I don't have problem with it, and Will's attraction to life as a whole isn't something new. The principle of what it means, however, is another matter which depends on how the events themselves progress.
The second point: I just... don't think being interested in your boyfriend's step-mother is a good choice for bisexual rep, you know...? Like. I mean. Gods this is hard. I mean you have to admit it's a little weird, to some extent. I have seen weird stuff my whole fandom life but even I were like. "Okayyyy hold up a little---" It's kinda funny, yeah.
Not mentioning blatantly admitting it to your boyfriend's face. And no, Nico's "bisexual chaos" does not help.
Of all the famales in a series and Rick chose Will's boyfriend's step-mother. Bold, really. I'd give him that.
In conclusion: I have to say that I'm not good at this, and I'm at no position to speak for the bisexual community. Though since you ask, I'd say that I, as a AroAce still trying to figure out myself, can't be happy with canon Will as a bisexual representation, and neither do I hold it against the author(s).
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smolandweirdwriter Ā· 2 years ago
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Gladly! Right, so the first thing I was introduced to when I first met other people (specifically people with on tumblr) who also liked Greek mythology was Hades and Persephone. Now, I’d never really considered them too deeply before. my interest in mythology at this point was sort of that I knew stuff, Percy Jackson was the what sparked my interest but I was invested in getting more knowledge and information and I really enjoyed learning about it, I’d read D’Aulaires, then the illiad and odyssey and the Aeneid, and it was around the beginning of high school that I was introduced to Lore Olympus, which got me SUPER invested in the myth of Persephone and Hades. I found it fascinating, but the first thing I learned was that it was good. That Persephone wanted hades. That they loved each other. That he cheated on her least of all the gods. That he was the best, more moral, more exceptional, kind, that if there was blame to be assigned (which everyone claimed there was not) then everything was Zeus’s fault. And I said, ā€œOkay. I guess that makes sense. Sure.ā€ I believed it for several months, maybe a year. I loved Hades and Persephone in this context. I loved what they embodied, what they represented. And then I was told that those things weren’t true. I was distressed! Even Hades was bad? Really? I desperately wanted it to be untrue. I tried backing the ā€œthere’s so many different versions, we don’t know the real one, most of these were oralā€ claims. Then I read a collection of the Homeric Hymns. And I felt like something had been flipped in my mind. I’d been considering this whole thing as a 21st century teenage girl. But that was never the intended audience for the story. It was to appease men and to support women and girls of the 7th century BCE. Zeus does what a king, what a father does: his brother is powerful, he needs an alliance, he gives away his daughter. Demeter represents what all mothers want to be: she can’t yell at Zeus, but she can make a point. She wants her daughter back, safe and unharmed, and dammit she’s gonna try. Persephone is a portrayal of the best that women could get: she’s still going to see her mother, and she’s married to a man who is powerful. But still she has no choice in the matter. It’s not a love story, and it never was. It’s a portrayal of the views of their society. so now I go, huh. So Hades isn’t a good man. I think back to some other relationships in mythology. How about Eros and Psyche? She fought for him, didn’t she? They loved each other, didn’t they? Weeeell… Did SHE have a choice? No. She was kidnapped, much like Persephone. Did he help her when she was pregnant? Was he ever there when his mother (Aphrodite being his mother in this myth) was punishing her? Nope to both! Really the amount of parallels to be drawn between Psyche and Eros and Persephone and Hades are rather astounding. It COULD certainly be argued that both couples eventually found happiness and love together, but there’s a bit of speculation/deeper digging required for that. In terms of relationships that don’t require speculation or deep digging, we turn at last to Ares and Aphrodite! Ares in Greek mythology represented not just war but also masculine strength. And a HUGE part of being a man was control over one’s household— protecting your family, their honor, especially that of the women. Did that mean men always treated their daughters, sisters, or wives well? Fuck no. Definitely not. But we’re talking about the gods as what they were— a metaphor, a lesson. And Ares? He never hurt a woman in a literal sense. He was representative of those virtues of masculinity: physical strength and protect of the weak. Ares never raped anyone. When Poseidon’s son Halirrhothius raped his daughter, Ares killed the man so violently he was put on trial. Imagine that for a moment. A Greek god kills a mortal and it is so violent he is put on trial by other Greek gods. That’s Ares representing Ancient Greek virtue of protecting the weak/protecting family that I mentioned earlier. Now onto Aphrodite. you might be
thinking I’m hypocritical, after all haven’t I already stated that cheating is wrong in godly relationships? Well… sort of. Let me explain! When Zeus forced himself on Hera, makes her marry him, she wants him not to be in other sexual relationships outside their monogamous one, and he doesn’t, then I think that is wrong. When Aphrodite arrives on Olympus and, having no say in the matter, is gifted to Hephaestus (whether or not this is to appease the other gods is another debate) and forced into a marriage with him, I think that is wrong as well. When Aphrodite, with no say nor choice in her marriage, likes Ares and he likes her and she (and this is the important bit) actively chooses him, then no, I don’t think that is wrong. My reason being? Consent! There is no instance in which Ares EVER has a nonconsensual relationship or intercourse! Not one! (His Roman counterpart, Mars, is, but we’re discussing Greek Ares, not Roman Mars.)
In conclusion… Ares is the least problematic in terms of nonconsensual behavior/intercourse. Hopefully this was explanatory!
the hades to eros to ares pipeline is REAL
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