#this is abhorrent and he’s done a lot of horrible terrible things but oh my actual god
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the-bensolos · 3 months ago
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Like you’re kidding, it’s actually comical the lack of justice the lack of accountability. T*rump sent Covid tests to Pu*tin during the height of the pandemic while the American people were DYING. He was literally spreading misinformation and downplaying the pandemic, telling people to inject bleach???? Saying it was just a bad flu????? All the while sending test machines to Pu*tin. Machines that were needing in hospitals machines that were in short supply. Like it’s not new information he doesn’t care about the American people but like the LEVEL, the magnitude of this…and yet…? Like, we all have to show up at the ballot box and swiftly kick this mf’er out once and for all.
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redux-iterum · 1 year ago
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i am aware you can't answer this right now, but! as a patron, your Tigerclaw. ough. it's been a good couple months(?) since i read his death scene and i am still reeling from the impact (in a positive way). just. everything. i am lacking in words tonight but just how emotionally charged it is, from every angle, in every way......... man. thats the kind of shit i hope to write one day. "emotional impact that feels like being beaten with a really heavy pillow (in a good way)" my beloved <3
OH same patron anon from like 2 minutes ago with the Spoiler Comment Question, here with a Hopefully-Not-Spoiler Comment Question. Once again; I love how you write Tigerclaw!!! the fact that I was, in the moment, disappointed and a little upset that Lionface was chosen as deputy over him, the fact that, on more than one occasion, I found myself wondering-slash-hoping that he was somehow, in some way, a red herring and not. y'know. responsible for the deaths that have ALWAYS been his fault in every rewrite and retelling. as if I didn't already know. as if it wasn't a fact I've known since I was a small child reading WC for the first time. damn. as i said before: many thoughts no words to express them But I Love, patron anon back for round 3. sorry that im spamming you with messages i just keep having More Thoughts and apparently no filter. I love how you write Tigerclaw as, like..... not a grand cunning mastermind, possibly not even in his own eyes. Prideful, yes, but there's this element of.... i don't quite know how to put it. He's just a guy. He's just a guy who loves his mate and his son, and is excited for the kits his mate is expecting, if a little apprehensive. Just a guy who is dangerous and terrible because he is so, so very certain that he knows what The Right Thing To Do is, and is willing to do whatever it takes to reach that ideal, but his idea of The Right Thing To Do is so horrible and skewed and dangerous. He does what he has to do, or what he thinks he has to. Does he see it as self-sacrifice, in a way? stooping so low for the sake of those he cares about? sorry again for the multiple asks but i'm obsessed with villains like this and have only just now managed to put the words together. cause like.... a lot of truly awful people aren't masterminds. They're people who are so very certain that they're in the right, and are so very wrong about that. i do love flamboyant, Evil-with-a-capital-E cartoon villains a lot (when done right), but there's something about having a villain be so normal, so clearly An Average(ish) Person, someone who may not even see how horrific their actions are. NOT THAT ANY OF THIS IS AN EXCUSE, it's not that they're misdirected or confused. it's like... the dead certainty that they are Correct and other people are Wrong. There's something very..... tactile? about it. "Real" might be the right word but it doesn't feel exactly right. It's like, this is a person you could meet. A person you could know. And they're just quietly (or not-so-quietly) abhorrent in so many ways. sorry for rambling my head is full of thoughts tonight and i apparently cannot shut up </3
Much gratitude and flustering for these asks, man, golly. I've hoped that I've improved in writing over time, and asks like these make me more confident. Thank you for reading along! (And for pledging on Patreon, an absolute of course.) Apologies for not getting to these sooner, I was saving them for today.
Your assessment of Tigerclaw is spot-on. I would say he THINKS he thinks of himself as a normal, good husband and warrior who's doing his best and having a humble life. There's only so real that can be when he also has the constant thought of "I am the only one who sees the truth and I need to Fix Things because no one else can". He thinks he's so much more honest and realistic than he is. You know people like that. I know people like that. The most dangerous person is one that can fool themselves.
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anonymoustalks · 5 years ago
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The left has become absorbed by identity politics and is obsessed with race.. it scares me that they will create more racists than before they started
(6-17-20) You both like politics.
You: heyaa
Stranger: Hi
Stranger: How are you
You: anything you're interested in?
You: I am fine
Stranger: I'm interested in hearing opinions on things
You: oh, me too ^^
You: what kind of things?
Stranger: Politics is divisive, but in order to get a better understanding I wish to listen to both sides
You: awesome, I think that's great ^^
Stranger: :) thank you
You: do you have issues you care about most?
Stranger: The current fall of western society
You: fall of western society huh
You: can you elaborate more?
Stranger: Over the past few years we have seen western society devolve. Where once we were fairly united and we stood strong, we have become more divided and with the introduction of identity politics, that has just worsened till we have gotten to where we are now. China is currently pushing her borders, and yet with the US in flames and the uk following suit (along with France for that matter), noone challenges it
You: mhm *nodsnods*
Stranger: To speak out against the lunacy is to be called a racist and a bigot, not that that's anything new of course but those who are calling for these things seem to not really understand the importance and significance of their actions. I see this as akin to the 1920s Weimar Republic. They are pushing for things they don't want
You: you type a lot haha
Stranger: Sorry i am choosing my words carefully
You: mhm it's fine
You: so you think strong foreign policy is very important?
Stranger: I do. I am from South Africa, though I live in the uk. For those who live outside the us and Europe, we see the importance of Baro and the us on a geopolitical scale. China owns the east of Africa, if not central as well. The us has been the top dog preventing them and Russia from doing much for years, though that's going to change in the coming years
Stranger: NATO not baro* bloody autocorrect
You: oh okay I was wondering what that was haha
Stranger: If I may ask, where are you from?
You: the us actually
Stranger: I thought you might be given the time :) it's half 1 am here
You: yeah it's late!
You: so in your view, western countries need to have more of a spine?
You: is that basically what you're saying?
Stranger: Always. But history has a cycle.
Stranger: Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. Weak men create hard times
You: very fair
You: speaking of cycles, I think something that is floating around these days
You: is whether it's sort of like the beginning of the end of american hegemony
You: sort of like UK's empire gradually had its sunset
Stranger: This is what I am concerned with. All empires have their time in the sun, and all shall fade. I had hoped I would be dead before it happened. I made a prediction several years ago that should trump win in 2020 again, there will be civil war. I am unsure on my prediction of civil war, but I can see that he will win. Should there not be war, I give it another 2 presidencies before yourselves will fall, and ww3 breaks out
You: hmm the us is steamy right now, but idk about civil war
Stranger: It's been brewing for a while now by my estimation
You: that said I would not be surprised about China continuing to be more aggressive
You: that stuff with India yesterday?
You: ^^
Stranger: Without strong willed opposition, they will always push more overtly. They have done so in the shadows for years now
Stranger: And that's just one example
Stranger: They have intruded on Thailand air space as well
You: I don't think either democrats or republicans are very foreign-policy aggressive right now though
You: idk if your concern will be that much better with biden
You: clinton was a little hawkish but she lost 2016
Stranger: It would be much worse with Biden, or anyone from the left EXCEPT Tulsi Gabbard
You: oh you sounded like you didn't want trump to win lol
Stranger: I don't like him. But honestly, he's the best option out of what has been shown. Bernie is a socialist, Hillary is a warmonger, Biden will probably be a puppet. Who can stand? Hillary could be strong, but you would go to war. For all his faults, Trump has avoided war and conflict. He brought North Korea to the discussion table.
You: okay ^^
Stranger: I may not like him but he is effective, and has been a boon to you economy though as someone who works in finance, the next crash is due soon
You: fair enough although I think a lot of places are hurt by the coronavirus economy anyways
Stranger: Yeah.. the lockdowns are odd.. why quarantine those who are healthy? We have always quarantined those who were I'll first, and then those who go out and riot get a free pass? It's a bit confusing, and is a little bit of double think. Rules don't apply to you if you have the correct opinions it would seem
You: idk the US never really had forced quarantines
You: everything here was just you were supposed to do it
Stranger: The uk did, apologies
Stranger: Well not heavily enforced near me
You: we had college students going to beaches even though the quarantine was happening
You: because young ppl think they are invincible
You: and dumb ^^
Stranger: Hahaha yeah you aren't wrong in that
Stranger: But I have waffled on, may I hear your opinions on what we have discussed?
You: mhm, I disagree but it's cool yo~
Stranger: No that's great, it shows that we can discuss and hopefully come to compromise
Stranger: Thank you for being chill and relaxed
You: mhm I'm basically a hippie though so I don't usually take strong stances on international intervention
Stranger: That's fair and understandable. I used to agree with that as well for many years
You: I kind of think it's a little bit of a selfish position to take (the peace one)
You: in the sense that I don't want to deal with other people's problems
You: so in a sense it's kinda selfish
Stranger: It is and it isn't :)
Stranger: It's a moral good and a difficult thing. Peace only exists as reprieve from war. Humanity is a war like species, and peace only ever exists between them. And I applaud your pacifism
You: idk I'm not sure if it's always something to applaud
You: I think in a sense it's a kind of inaction
Stranger: A good thought experiment for you then, look at ww2
You: yup
You: I'm familiar with isolationism in history and its ramifications
Stranger: The us was neutral officially for years, and because they took no strong stance, the Nazis rose to power. Admittedly it was partly the fault of all the allies and ww1 but that's a digression.
Stranger: But war was thrust upon them officially by what happened. The peaceful stance can be taken from you, but that is not a bad thing in my opinion
You: yup
Stranger: What would you do if you could, at that time?
You: at that time?
You: hmm
You: it's not a question I've thought very much about
Stranger: I thought on that myself
You: and what did you conclude?
Stranger: My answer was intervention. Stop the Anschluss, the Munich agreement, the extremely harsh measures of the treaty at the end of ww1
You: oh yeah that was a terrible treaty
You: I kind of imagined myself as an average person though haha
Stranger: But I understand the reasoning at the time for allowing all those things to go through
Stranger: I am too
You: you would have protested your government signing that treaty?
Stranger: That's why thay generation was called the greatest generation. We the average man stood up and took up arms, because they believed what was right.
Stranger: It is difficult to say that if I lived in that time I would. Of it was today, 100%
You: mhm... war is frightening
Stranger: We cannot judge the past with the same moral standing we have today
You: of course
Stranger: And yes, war really is a horrible thing
Stranger: If peace was an option, I would go for it. Often times though, we have no control over that
You: mhm there is suffering in a lot of places, and violence that arises from suffering and hatred
Stranger: Look at the Nazis and the hatred of the Jews. That was extremely common all across Europe, the uk and the us. Many leaders in politics and business liked the Nazis initially. But just because something is common, does not make it right
You: I actually never understood antisemitism
Stranger: You are quite wise, and I agree with you. But the sad thing is, there will always be suffering
You: or why people hate(d) jewish people
Stranger: The scary thing is, many of those in BLM look up to a man called Farrakhan (forgive me on the spelling) who is a huge antisemite. Like he openly calls for violence against them. He gets away with it, because he is black. Why he hates them I don't know. They are hated I think, because they are the oldest abrahamic religion and the oldest monothesist one as well, from which both Islam and Christianity draw their teachings from initially
You: I just don't understand why they are hated
You: often by christians too
Stranger: Me neither, I find it abhorrent. They have been persecuted for thousands of years
You: yeah idk I just don't understand why
Stranger: I have yet to find out why. I know in Islam they hate them as it is dictated within their scriptures, though the exact wording I am unsure on. Christians I would think it's because they don't believe that Jesus was the son of God
You: I guess so
Stranger: But I may be entirely wrong
Stranger: Which I probably am
You: idk I don't know anything so I have no clue
Stranger: Hence why I like and want discussion :) we learn more through communication
Stranger: We become better the more we communicate
You: is there a reason why you dislike blm so much?
Stranger: I stand against identitarianism
You: so basically all those "pride" movements?
Stranger: I come from a racist country that segregated everyone and everything based on the colour of everyone's skin and I was hated for being the colour of my skin just for being born. I cannot condone movements that wish to implement the same things, as it will lead to suffering and hatred.
Stranger: I have nothing against being proud of your race, though I think the idea is a bit stupid. I have an issue with everything needing to divided up based on the colour of ones skin, I choose to judge someone on the basis of their character. I'm not perfect and there are times where I have been prejudiced but it is something I am consious of and wish to not do
You: mhm okay
You: I'm not sure if blm wants things to be divided up based on race though
You: I thought they were mostly against police brutality
Stranger: Some very much so are. Though I will concede that not all of them are, and I should tar everyone with the same brush. But as a counter to that, look at CHAZ in Seattle, they have segregated farms though calling them that is hilarious
You: I thought chaz is just a city block?
Stranger: On the police brutality, I agree with them and that reform must happen. Abolishing police is not a good idea. More funding is required, better training and better internal policies and structures to vette and review the officers is needed. Abolishing them will lead to anarchy. You are correct that Chaz is, but it is a microcosm showing the very things I stand against. I am against racism of all kinds, segregation is a form of racism. The us had a history where they did it too and agreed that it was wrong
You: mhm
You: I just wasn't familiar with blm as pro-segregation
You: that said, most blm activists are just really young
Stranger: They have been co-opted by those who are. And many activists are young white kids
You: I don't think mainstream democrats take them very seriously
Stranger: I'm not so certain. But I hope I am wrong
You: idk I mean these days who knows what kind media we each read
You: so I'm sure I'm in a bubble too
Stranger: They may see these things as a good and helpful idea, but the road to hell is often paved with good intentions
Stranger: Of course, and I hope I'm wrong. I recommend a variety of news sources, especially independent ones. A great one is a guy named Tim Pool on YouTube. He is a left leaning centrist guy who is upfront with his leanings. But he gives the news as it is
You: mhm I try to avoid youtube news
You: although idk if it's truly reliable to always go through bbc or ap or others
You: they are just mainstream
Stranger: BBC is very biased in my opinion. Tim used to work on mainstream media but he left. I would call him credible, he looks at news sources and verifies them. He's very milk toast and fence sits allot the problem with news is that all sides want to spin things the way they want it
You: mhm okay
You: is there any kind of mainstream media that you like?
Stranger: I don't trust any of them when it comes to almost anything except weather and sport scores. I will listen to what is said from various sources before coming to my own conclusions. I have lost all faith in the media since 2016
You: I see, I guess it ends up being hard to find something to trust
Stranger: Unfortunately it is. My reasons for it was both the elections in the us for 2016 and the brexit vote here in the uk. I was very similar to you then, very much so a hippie and very left leaning. I disagreed with Trump and Brexit, but I lost. But the way the media and society within the left handled themselves and the situation, that put me off completely and pushed me to become more conservative than what I was
You: interesting, although I'm not exactly following what made you more interested in conservative things
Stranger: The constant denigration of those who you disagree with. The treatment hat those people got, most of whom are the working class, upon the backs of which society is upheld. They are not racist or evil. They have a different opinion and different values. How does making a choice in a democracy make someone evil when neither side is perfect?
Stranger: The left preaches tolerance, except that it doesnt in reality
You: mhm yeah I don't like that
You: I don't think it is effective either
Stranger: All it does is polarize people
Stranger: And drive them further away from reaching g a compromise
You: right
Stranger: Don't get me wrong, I don't agree with Brexit, but as a democracy we made a decision. So now we need to exact that decision. I would have voted for trump despite my disdain for him
Stranger: Enact not exact*
You: I think there are a lot of people who think similarly as you do ^^
Stranger: There really are
Stranger: The left has become absorbed by identity politics and is obsessed with race.. it scares me that they will create more racists than before they started
Stranger: Constantly calling your opposition racist and evil will force them into being it
You: mhm I think there are some things to distinguish between social media left-wing people and people in everyday life I think
You: the vitriol is always much more amplified online than people are irl
Stranger: Oh agreed! Twitter is not real life, but it has started to bleed over
You: I live in a fairly liberal state, although I don't really think I have ever seen twitter irl
You: although I do think there is probably self-censorship occuring
You: in the sense that people are afraid of what their neighbors will think
Stranger: There is allot of that
Stranger: Anything you say will be used against you. Even if it's not that controversial
Stranger: People have lost their jobs for an opinion not done at work
You: that said, I don't think that's per say the "left's" fault though -- I just think that public opinion has shifted dramatically in the last 10 years
Stranger: Or how about the man who lost his job because his wife said something controversial
Stranger: I agree with you
Stranger: I really do
Stranger: Allot of this I do think could have been stopped years ago
You: I don't really like the lynch firing of people
You: that companies do for their public image
You: because the truth doesn't matter
You: it's just public image
Stranger: They do so because they are scared of the mob
You: but at the same time, I think public image is a thing because majority opinion really has shifted in the past two decades
You: opinions on homosexuality have swung dramatically in the US
You: ten years ago it was totally okay in public to be anti-homosexual
Stranger: Obama was against gay marriage until it was politically important for him to win the next election
You: but public opinion I think has swung really fast
You: yeah
You: I think he swapped at the first poll that showed >50% of americans supported it
Stranger: Yep! I find it hilarious that that was the case
You: yes but I think conservatives find this kind of fast change extremely uncomforting
You: I can understand that sentiment
You: also isn't it getting kinda late for you? ^^
Stranger: Conservatives are by their very nature are conservative. Change is neither malevolent nor benevolent, but we cannot look at change as universally good. Not can we disregard tradition
Stranger: It's 3 am and I can still keep going, I'm enjoying this conversation :)
You: I need to do the dishes eventually lol
Stranger: If you wish to leave you can by all means :) I won't hate you for it
You: I'm fine either way tbh
You: are you working right now? if you have work tomorrow you should prob go to bed
Stranger: It's up to you :) I can go for ages though my coherence Kay descend
Stranger: I'm sadly unemployed at the moment having lost my job earlier this year
You: coronavirus?
Stranger: Sadly yes
You: that's unfortunate, I'm sorry
Stranger: Not your fault :) so don't stress
You: so aside from Russia and China and the decline of western things, is there anything else that you stress about lol?
Stranger: The drive of censorship
Stranger: I have serious issue with censory
You: mhm
Stranger: And yourself?
You: mhm I dunno really
Stranger: That's good, though I would urge you to become concerned with censorship
You: mhm maybe
You: for me it's sort of a contextual concern I think
You: in the sense that it depends on your vantage point
Stranger: Opinions, art and books doesn't matter. Today it is their voice, tomorrow it is my voice. The day after it becomes your voice. Censorship takes away their rights to speak, and your rights to listen
You: mhm, what I mean is that my family immigrated from China
You: so my reference point of censorship is literal government censorship
You: in comparison the "political correctness" thing just doesn't seem as big to me imo
You: because 90% of it to me is sort of like a person's relationship with the neighbor basically
You: the US government doesn't censor what you can publish essentially
Stranger: That's fair enough, but this is where it starts. Things take time, and if anyone gives in (such as they have in several cases) that builds. In time that becomes the norm, there after what gets censored will not be at the choice of the people but of those who are in power
You: perhaps, although I kind of have faith in the 1st ammendment and the US supreme court
You: we barely have libel laws or defamation laws in the US because of the 1st ammendment
Stranger: I have seen calls to change and amend it. In the uk we have no freedom of speech, people have been arrested for jokes, what's been said on Twitter, etc. There are those who say that it's ok to censor this and that because e they are problematic or it would be good for everyone. But that is how it starts. The US has so much freedom
You: ahh... yeah I feel like it is different in the uk
Stranger: The uk doesn't care for free speech. It's very worrying and there are calls for even more censorship here.
You: mhm that sounds worrisome
Stranger: I guess I project it across to all western countries, and that is something we have seen recently
You: I don't think the US will lose the 1st amendment anytime soon, it's not politically realistiic
Stranger: Look at Amazon censoring books and movies being removed etc, this is how this begins. If it is allowed now, how can we stop it in the future
You: idk the status of free speech in other countries
You: actually this is a very interesting topic
Stranger: The us is one of the only countries that has it
You: do you think freedom of speech should be protected in private spaces?
Stranger: Codified in law that is
You: because technically freedom of speech for us is supposed to be only related to public government relationships
Stranger: I believe it should always be be protected
You: specifically "congress will make no law restricting freedom of speech" (paraphrased)
You: so you believe that private companies should not control what is said on their premises?
You: I mean it's fine if you believe that, it's actually just a bit further than what the current status quo is
Stranger: Yes. They are not above the law. Society may shun them, but they should not become involved. Outright calls for violence are against the law and that should be honoured, outside of that no they should not impose on pthers
You: hmm in the US this is where things get super complicated
You: because conservatives are also the ones who want content restricted/said in their religious schools too
Stranger: I've noticed.. and that has an effect on the rest of the world
You: basically "freedom of religion" and "freedom of speech" being on the same political side here makes things very weird
Stranger: And yeah I am aware of that as well, though the pendulum seems to have swung to the other side now. And it will swing back to the other side again
You: kind of like "My store should have the freedom of religion to deny my patrons of being homosexual in my store" kinda thing
Stranger: Yeah it is hard but there is more to the opposite side than just the one thing
You: it's a weird convoluted thing when both are conservative issues
Stranger: That's a difficult one, but I would say that should be discussed and debated but the highest courts. I cannot say from a legal sense one way or the other, morally I can say that it's hard to decide. I think that everyone should get a choice but I am uncertain
Stranger: By not but*
You: mhm that's fine ^^
You: I just think it's very interesting because most laws here, they govern the relationship between between the government and the people
You: so our freedom of speech laws do not apply to amazon censoring books because they are a private company
Stranger: Which is the difficult thing
Stranger: They are protected by being a private company
Stranger: As it's not just them
You: maybe ^^ we have a free market though, so things that cannot be published on amazon will find an outlet elsewhere
You: provided there is a demand for it
You: that said, it also has some gray area with morality laws
Stranger: That is true but monopoloes make things harder to find
You: kind of like youtube banning pornographic content
Stranger: Yeah I can understand that morally, legally I don't know but I would assume that there is some laws regarding that
You: I mean I'm just used to many various sites having bans of various sorts
Stranger: The uk has some
Stranger: Yeah, but there are protections for them being platforms not publishers
You: I don't think there is any law forcing youtube to ban pornographic content; it's just a branding choice by the company
Stranger: If they are publishers, those protections don't apply
You: like I think they want to be seen as family-friendly
Stranger: Fair enough, would have thought there might be
You: porn sites are not illegal in the US lol
Stranger: Not family friendly, advertisement friendly
You: lol true
Stranger: Sorry I don't know enough to be able to say :) I'm happy to admit that
You: mhm aside from political correctness, I guess I just don't personally see a big problem with censorship in the US
You: although I think I have a different belief than you that I think it's okay for private companies to choose what they want to publish
You: even if the ban content
You: these companies still need to compete
Stranger: Them doing so is fine, but if they wish to be protected as platforms they cannot act as a publisher. I think that's the Crux of their protections
Stranger: It is something that has been going for a while though
Stranger: And I think Trump will have it in his campaign for reelection this year
You: okay ^^
Stranger: But I don't know, he has been interested in censorship and has said he is against it in the past
You: I think people mean different things by censorship
You: but that's just imo
You: there are almost no western countries that experience censorship by their governments
You: so people mean things like censorship at their workplace
You: although imo that's kind of less censorship and more on the political correctness spectrum
Stranger: True. That is very true. But if you don't stop censorship openly, then should it come from government you don't already know you can stand against it
You: but to me, that "political correctness" isn't anything new either; it's as old as time
You: like did we always worry about saying something that would offend our boss?
You: ^^
You: it's always been there
You: I just think people are uncomfortable because bosses have changed in the last few decades
Stranger: It's not just their work place. The new "town square" is has become online. Your freedoms online are not protected despite it being codified in law
Stranger: And you aren't wrong, and coming from China or at least your family, you bring an interesting perspective
You: I feel like in the US we have very little digital legislation
You: the US of is head of hear
You: *there
Stranger: The world needs a digital bill of rights, to protect us all and our data. But we won't get it
You: but I don't think we have anything guaranteeing that speech on the Internet is free by any regard
Stranger: I would argue we do
You: hm? which law?
You: I like most websites have ToS's and rules banning X Y or Z on their site
Stranger: Freedom of speech and expression
You: oh I mean in terms of law
Stranger: That is what I meant, so that we are free to speak and express ourselves. I also believe that our data should be private and cannot be sold and that should be protected. There are other things that I have heard but it's difficult to remember all those that were proposed
You: ahh
You: yeah we don't have those laws right now
Stranger: Today stuff is okay but you are not protected
You: although the EU has some privacy ones that we don't have in the US
Stranger: The EU doesn't care mostly
Stranger: Some laws only protect some information, I'm talking about all of our information
You: ^^
Stranger: Everything we post and do is tracked, monitored and sold
Stranger: We revel in it, "I was talking about cats/dogs and all of a sudden I got adds for cat/dog products"
Stranger: We hear that often
You: yup
Stranger: Also, with regards to our rights and things, who holds these companies accountable?
Stranger: Take google for example
Stranger: They have been caught tampering with the elections
You: well, again, we have basically no laws about this in the US so there is no accountability
Stranger: They openly censor news and opinions
Stranger: They are a monopoly
You: although some europrean countries have lawsuits whatever with them
You: yup they totally are
You: where are anti-trust laws lol?
Stranger: That's what I think Trump will be looking at, I would if I was in his shoes
Stranger: But they were given special protections
Stranger: Those need to be taken away, the large companies need to be broken up but governments are incompetent
Stranger: I don't trust them to do it well
You: mhm it actually reminds me of south korea actually
Stranger: I mean there are a few senators in the states that I think have the moral fortitude to do so, but I don't know
You: countries are loathe to break up companies that they're proud of basically
Stranger: Yep
You: like samsung in south korea lol?
Stranger: They wouldn't break them up
Stranger: It would do serious damage to the economy and blah blah blah
You: their revenue was like 20% of the entire country's gdp
Stranger: Yep it's a difficult argument
Stranger: And I can understand why you wouldnt
Stranger: That 20% could drop to below 1%
You: anyhow it is getting kind of late
You: it was nice talking to you
You: and you should sleep ^^
Stranger: Likewise! :) I needed to move my sleep schedule for a 24 hour race on the weekend anyway, sp thank you for occuping my time and mind :)
You: goodnight!
Stranger: I'm glad to have met another willing to talk, take care my good friend
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Lost Souls and Reveries (Part 17)
22 part AU written for @cssns​. Part 1, Part 2, Part 3, Part 4, Part 5, Part 6,Part 7, Part 8, Part 9, Part 10, Part 11, Part 12, Part 13, Part 14, Part 15, Part 16. Story available on AO3 Here and FF Here. Banner created by the amazingly talented @shipsxahoy​!!
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Killian Jones is a wolf shifter without roots, without plans, and without a pack. He’s a rogue, someone humans should avoid and shifters should be wary of given his lineage. But one night years back set him on a path he didn’t realize he was taking, a path leading to a future he is destined for. That future is tied up in one woman – a human named Emma Nolan. Together Emma and Killian will find not only answers, but a love that’s truly fated. But will love be enough to set them free, or will past demons win out in the end? (Answer: love always wins – I am writing this so despite some tiny pockets of angst it’s basically a fluff-filled insta-love fest). Rated M.
A/N: Hey all! I am so glad to be back after just a week away this time, especially because I really want to get you all this resolution. I would have loved to have this chapter and the last one be just one installment, but I hit like 10,000 words and still had more to say so it just wasn’t meant to be. I hope you’ll forgive me once you read this part though, and I am so excited to see what you all think! Also, just in case it isn’t clear, there are three distinct POVs in this chapter (Killian, Liam, and Emma). Thanks as always for reading and hope you enjoy!
Witnessing the form of any man be overcome by a monster was a soul rattling thing. It chilled the blood and froze the mind, paralyzing it with anxiety and fear. But to see one’s brother go through such a horrifying change was something else all together.
For a moment, Killian caved to that panic as he watched the way his brother’s eyes flashed a hellish black and how the tension in Liam’s limbs made the lines of his body horrible and gruesome. The snarl on his face shouldn’t have been possible. No expression should convey so much hate and malice, and the growl that emanated from Liam’s chest was simultaneously low and yet sharp and scratchy. It made Killian wince, as if Liam had scraped his claws down a chalkboard, but despite the survival instincts in Killian’s head that told him to run, he stayed strong. It only took a moment for him to collect himself, to remind his now skittish animal of all he had to fight for and how nothing, not even his worst nightmare made real, would deter him from that. Killian had to protect the people he loved, and more than anything he had to fight with all he had to see his mate and his true love protected for now and always.
In seconds Killian readied himself for battle, crouching low, with every intention of shifting. His wolf was nearly at the forefront of his mind, his body just a hair away from transforming, but just before he did the monster in front of him went from totally controlling his brother to essentially disappearing. Liam physically stumbled, his body bending over as he shook his head with tremendous force, and when he looked up again his real eyes stared back at Killian, the deep darkness from before now gone. Liam was nearly normal again, though clearly had used a large amount of energy to fight back. But how? And more importantly, why?
“It’s like I said, before. The monster remains. There’s no shaking it.”
“But you’re trying to fight it,” Killian acknowledged and Liam nodded.
“Yes. I have tried everything I can to suppress it since that night. The night you spared me.”
“I might not know many details about what happened to you after our fight, brother, but I do know you stayed with the pack,” Killian bit out, his own resentment at that not hidden in the slightest. He’d thought it was a terrible idea then, and he still believed it to be so now. He had no idea how Liam would have ever rectified the want to suppress his inner demon with staying in that toxic place they once called home.  “So it doesn’t add up. You fought darkness, but lingered in it too.”
“That night…” Liam paused for a moment as he tried to find the words for how everything had gone down. “That night I was unhinged and unwell, but I wasn’t fully gone, not like you thought I was. That instinct to stay with the pack – it wasn’t all the bite talking. That had always been my plan, since the moment we set out to kill Brennan.”
“You never told me that,” Killian said, not believing it even if part of him wondered if it could be true. Had Liam always wanted to return to the pack? Maybe, but the thought, even in hindsight, was so abhorrent to Killian he couldn’t fully comprehend it.
“Of course I didn’t. You never would have supported that idea. You were of one mind. All you could focus on was finding justice for Mum, and I knew there would be no discussion on the subject. I had hoped after everything was done that maybe you’d see. Maybe killing our father would free you from all your hatred of the past. Maybe you’d feel as I did, that our life back there was more than evil and power and greed. There was still good in where we came from. It just had to be nurtured and fought for.”
“Sounds like bullshit,” Tink said, her words reminding both brothers that she was still here, something Killian had already forgotten.
“It’s true,” Liam reaffirmed, his aggravation growing, but his eyes remained a steady cerulean as he looked at Tink. “I always planned to rid the ugliness from our past, and from our family.”
“Oh sure, that’s possible,” Tink said with a dismissive wave of her hand, “Hell, I’d say it’s even likely, seeing as you’re related to Killian, who does everything he can to be a good guy. But that bite should have changed everything. If you really wanted to make things better, you should have known you weren’t the man to do it. You were compromised, and you clearly still are.”
“I did know I wasn’t the one to truly make things right,” Liam confessed. “And despite knowing I still tried anyway because I was selfish. I fooled myself into thinking I would be okay. When Killian left, the beast inside me calmed a hell of a lot. He never truly went away, but he was quieter, less agitated. I hovered above the monster, and I did what needed doing. I got rid of the old guard, all of the pack who supported Brennan -,”
“They all supported him, Liam. Every last one of them,” Killian spat out and Liam shook his head.
“No, not all of them. They didn’t support him; they endured him. The fear we felt wasn’t ours alone to shoulder. There were many others stuck in the same torturous cycles, hoping for escape without finding it. Mothers scared for their cubs, fathers who knew that defecting from the pack would put a mark on them and their families forever. Brennan was ruthless and he hated nothing more than disloyalty. Everyone was trapped, and just because they all didn’t show the bravery of our mother doesn’t mean they all deserved to be condemned.”
Killian remained quiet. He knew that at some level Liam was right. The cubs were absolutely without guilt, for none of them could choose the pack they were born to or the rules of their clan. And yes, Killian remembered that there was fear beyond his own little world. People got quiet around his father, and the women especially made sure never to linger too long in his presence. It was always a place filled with whispers and walking on eggshells. Still, Killian knew that even if the bite hadn’t come between them he never would have stayed. Some might say Killian wasn’t strong enough to face the past. They might think he lacked honor for not going and rebuilding what was broken, but Killian didn’t see it as his duty to fix what his father had created. He wanted no part of Brennan’s legacy, and if he’d been forced to face it he’d have disbanded the clan and told every single member that they’d be better off starting over somewhere without all the baggage and heartbreak.
“I know you think the pack should have dissolved, and there’s merit to that thinking, but what you failed to see was that as much pain as the pack brought, the pack was also family. For better or worse, it was all most of them ever knew, and breaking that bond is painful. It’s like leaving a part of yourself behind forever. You never felt that when we were kids, but I did, and I knew how much it hurt and how badly I wished it never happened. I didn’t want to take anything more from anyone, so I tried to heal the hurts instead.”
“And how did that work?” Killian asked skeptically.
“It was slow going, but there was steady progress. A few years in and we’d discharged all of the remaining dissenters. Brennan’s core backers were gone, and the members that remained began to believe that more might be possible for the first time in a long time. We set new rules, we cleansed the laws of the pack, and we started to build something everyone could be proud of.”
“Sounds like a fairy tale,” Tink joked and Liam winced.
“Hardly. Much as I tried to deny it, I was still sick. I could play at being healed all I wanted, hell I even fooled myself into thinking I was still on solid ground. I told no one I was infected, and I lived for a long time like nothing was wrong. But it wasn’t that simple. I might have been caging my animal, but I was still feeding it every day. I made all of them rely on me. I amassed substantial power as alpha, both within our pack and outside it, even if it wasn’t through fear as Brennan had. I was in total command and that soothed the beast which lusted for control, but all it took was one moment to show me how wrong I was in thinking that I could ever overcome this.”
“What happened?”
“What always happens in pack life: an outsider came and challenged me, thinking he stood a chance to take what I’d,” Liam stalled, shaking his head and changing his wording purposefully. “What we had been building.”
“That’s not so unusual,” Tink said, though her nose scrunched up slightly in a show of disgust. “Well not for wolves anyway. You’re all so abrasive, that just comes with the territory.”
The joke fell flat though Killian knew in another situation he’d have laughed. Tink’s thoughts on other shifters were usually entertaining to him, but the look of regret in Liam’s eyes told Killian his brother’s dark deed had crossed a line. He could only imagine what that might have been like.
“A challenge is normal, yes, but there are customs now. We don’t fight to the death like the wolves of old. We fight until surrender or until one side can’t fight anymore. We aren’t supposed to see an attacker and think that the only way forward is draining the life from them.  We aren’t supposed to welcome that kind of fight while vehemently resenting anyone for trying to stake a claim. Our animal shouldn’t crave cruelty or demand death.”
“But yours did.”
“Aye. Looking back it’s like someone else’s memory, but that fight… hell it was worse than ours ever had the chance to be. I was ruthless. I’d won the match ten times over, but the bite had me taunting and tormenting my opponent. I wouldn’t just have killed him. This was torture. This was blood sport…” Liam said, his eyes haunted and his shame written clear as day on his face. “It took every member of the pack to get me back from the depths of my demons, and even then they couldn’t fully stop me. I was possessed, consumed with this evil need. I was seconds away from finally killing him, but the ruckus of the pack distracted me, enough that I saw my reflection in the creek. My eyes were worse than black…”
“They were shattered,” Killian said, knowing the way his father had looked when they fought him, and remembering how ungodly the sight was.
“They were on the edge, the fragments were forming. The last pieces of my soul were withering away far faster than I imagined, and only in seeing that could I find a way to stop. And the only way to stop was to leave, so I ran.”
“Wait, you left?” Killian asked, shocked that after everything Liam would have ever left the pack for any length of time.
“I had to. I was stricken with the wants of the sickness for days. I couldn’t shift back to human form, all I could do was run, trying to exhaust myself and keep myself from turning back and finishing the job. Finally I passed out from the lack of food and water and sleep, but even then, when the fog of it all lifted I knew I couldn’t return. I called my second in command, and I told him I was done. The beast in me was too much, and I had to save the little control I have left for something more important. I had to save it for you, Killian. I had to try and mend things between us the best I could after everything that’s happened. I’m only glad you’ve found your happiness when you did, so Ruby’s block could be lifted and I could get here in time. It’s been over a year and each day I searched in vain, knowing I was never really close and would likely never find you. So you see, you finding your mate isn’t just your miracle, but mine too.”
Killian allowed that to sink in, and finally he accepted that Liam was really trying to do the right thing. This wasn’t a trick or a game. It was a genuine attempt by his elder brother to make amends. That was more than Killian had ever dared to dream of, but in accepting this to be fact Killian also realized that his brother’s words all pointed to a sadness he could not comprehend. Liam wasn’t here to hurt him, but he was here to say goodbye, and that goodbye was going to be a final one.
“So you mean to tell me that you withstood the bite for years, rebuilt the pack, overcame the beast again and have been tirelessly tracking me in the hopes of saying you’re sorry?”
“You’ve colored the story in my favor by putting it that way, but yes. It will never be enough, but I am sorry, Killian. I’m sorry for all of it. I miscalculated with Brennan even though we’d trained so hard. He never should have bit me in the first place, but I fucked up and he did. Then I caved so quickly to the crazy impulses this sickness brings, only to put you in the most impossible position. I can never take back that night, but if I could I truly would. More than anything though I want you to know that I tried. I tried to be the man you still believed was in me when you spared my life. I tried to be a man you and Mum could be proud of. I tried as long as I could.”
“And so now what, it’s just over? You’re giving up?” Tink asked, her own hard exterior defenses softening as she grappled with the self-sacrifice Liam was planning to make.  
“There’s no other way. I can’t live with this beast without succumbing to it,” Liam confessed, his resigned manner making Killian’s heart ache even more. “I’m a threat to everyone I meet. It’s barely restrained. The monster keeps rising closer and closer to the surface. Seeing you right now is the work of so much time, brother, and it’s all I ever wanted, but the pain I feel at holding onto everything is almost blinding. Frankly it’s miraculous I’ve held on this long. Soon enough the dam will break, and when it does I’ll be gone, and you and the people you care about here will be in real danger. So I have to stop that from happening. I can’t become what our father was. I won’t.”
“So you’ll die a hero then, a man who overcame to spare the rest of us. Because that’s what you’re saying. You’re saying you have to die. That you have to…” Killian couldn’t even form the rest of the terrible words, instead leaving the implication hanging in the air around them.
“It’s the only way.”
“I don’t believe that,” Killian said. “I might have bought that before. If you found me even a few months ago I would have been jaded enough to do so, but now�� there’s too much good in the world for this to end like this Liam. There’s hope that lives here, hope like we’ve never known before, hope you deserve to feel.”
“Your mate, you love her,” Liam said and Killian nodded, now not distressed at Liam’s casual mention of Emma or at the thoughtful smile that formed on Liam’s face. “She’s your light and your hope, just like Mum used to say a mate should be, and I’m happy for you, brother, happier than you’ll ever know. I only wish I had the chance to meet the woman who could be so much to my favorite person.”
“Killian!”
The call from Emma that sounded through the woods at this most opportune time caused Killian to move forward, soon enough she appeared at the tree line with Ruby, Elsa, and Anna, and when she did Killian could see her fierce want to be with him and to protect him. She didn’t realize that he didn’t need protection, but at least now Liam could see the light that he had guessed at previously. He could have one wish granted in the end.
As he was thinking that though, Liam surprised Killian by springing towards Emma and her friends, and Killian’s good thoughts evaporated at the perceived threat. Liam moved with lightening speed, charging in Emma’s direction and Killian matched his pace, acting on instinct until he’d come to stand right before his love, protecting her as best he could, but then he realized it wasn’t Emma Liam had in his sights, it was Elsa. The expression on Liam’s face was torn and in flux, his eyes flashed between blue and the brilliant color of a healthy wolf, but all of his attention was settled on Emma’s best friend. One moment he was joyous, the next confused, and concerned. His actions were strange and almost unknowable, but then Killian realized something: Elsa must truly matter to Liam. She must call to him, and intrigue him in a way that he couldn’t control himself. She must be…
……………
My mate!
The words repeating over and over in his head the moment Liam laid eyes on the fair-haired beauty before him were undeniable, and even stranger they were said in the tone of his wolf pre-sickness. The demons that had taken up residence in his mind the past few years were silent, and all there was to focus on was this impossibly beautiful woman.
For a few beats of his heart, Liam experienced a rush of yearning and rightness. For the first time in years he felt like he had a chance at being whole and at being more than okay again. Acting on instinct he moved toward this familiar stranger, pulled by something stronger than gravity to be closer in her orbit. He barely even took in the others in her presence. Ruby was there, and he spared her the same fleeting glance that he gave to the other two women. One was clearly Killian’s mate, as his brother had charged to stand in front of her in a show of protection, but Killian’s face wasn’t animated with anger. Instead he looked perplexed and then a small smile began to tug at his lips as understanding dawned on him. Liam didn’t have time to make heads or tails of that; all he wanted was to get to his angel – his mate.
“Liam, stop!” Ruby said fiercely, putting her body between him and the woman he wanted so badly and Liam felt a growl growing in his chest, but he ultimately halted in his tracks. He met his cousin’s eyes, which were slightly clouded in that familiar way that said she was here in this moment while also receiving one of the visions she’d been having since childhood. When it had passed Liam growled low again, not liking the distance from his new found other half, and though Ruby seemed more relaxed than a moment ago, her fear had shifted to annoyance very quickly. “Seriously, quit it or you’ll scare her.”
“Uh, isn’t that the point?” one of the other women whispered. Looking at her, Liam could see some similarities between this woman and his blue-eyed beauty. They must be related somehow, but Liam’s gaze only stayed with her a moment before returning to his impossible dream again. “He’s the bad guy, remember?”
“He’s not,” his mate said sternly, speaking for the first time in his presence. Her voice rang out with indescribable melody, and each word, each subtle intonation lapped at his very soul like a gentle wave on the shore.
Her eyes didn’t demure in any way as he continued to stare her down, instead she met his gaze head on, and the emotion that he saw in those crystal blue pools nearly knocked him over. She was already fierce in her want to protect him and defend him despite not knowing him at all, and God he could just see how sweet and pure she was. Her hair was so light it could hardly be real, and though she’d tied it back in a tidy, elegant braid, Liam longed to see it set free. So many little dreams passed before his eyes – flashes of what he wanted with her, of what he wished could be. He never imagined anything like her before, he longed to reach out and touch her and to hold her close. She was sunlight in the midst of so much shadow, but he’d never deserve her, and he knew rationally that they could never be together, even if he’d never wanted anything more.
“I am though, love. And this… it can’t happen. I can’t be here,” Liam murmured. The realization was worse than anything he’d ever felt. He’d do all of life’s most terrible moments over again a million times to avoid this fate. He’d give anything to have things be different, but they weren’t. He was broken, and though he didn’t even know her name, Liam knew he’d never subject this angel to the burdens that he carried.
“You can,” his mate replied, her eyes holding so much softness even in the face of his brusque attempt at cold.
“Elsa?” The woman who clearly belonged with Killian looked for guidance and more clarification from his mate, and Liam rejoiced at hearing her name for the first time. Elsa – so unique and uncommon, just like her.
“It’s all right, Emma. It’s going to be okay,” Elsa said before looking back to him and speaking directly to him again. “You’re going to be okay.”
“No, I’m not. It’s – God it’s a sick joke! I live long enough to find you, but I can’t have you.”
“Yes you can. I can help you,” Elsa said, her voice lilting with the same calm and warmth despite the fact that his own was edging towards full-blown despair.
“Help him?” Ruby asked, her face giving every hint that her visions weren’t serving her as well as she wanted right now. She couldn’t read the future that his mate seemed so certain of, but without even hearing the details, Liam felt himself start to believe this remarkable woman. He knew nothing of Elsa, but at the same time he knew everything, and if she believed then he would to. “What do you mean?”
“I mean I can heal him,” Elsa announced, totally and completely assured of herself.
“How?” Everyone except for Liam asked at the same time, and then Elsa smiled as she very clearly replied.
“Because I’m his mate.”
“MATE?!” the girl who looked like Elsa asked exuberantly. “Did you just say mate? Did my sister just say mate?!”
“Yes, Anna, I said mate,” Elsa said, her own happiness bubbling up into a tinkling laugh that sounded out like the chimes of a bell.
Liam’s chest filled with pride at her claiming him like this, and he knew he’d never felt such joy in his life. That she would feel all he felt for her was incredible, and that she could see past the darkness that he was… well it was the best thing that had ever happened in his life. It was only topped by the moment that his Elsa stepped forward, finally taking his hand in hers. At the contact he was overcome with elation in a way that defied description. All he knew was one moment he was a jumble of feelings and the next he was truly peaceful. For the first time in a long time all his monsters were at bay, and he felt anchored even as he reveled in this taste of true freedom. Then he watched as a swirl of light began to emanate from her. It was magic, raw, powerful light magic, and he felt it seep into him, warming him through and making him feel like more than he’d ever been, even before the bite.
“See what I mean?” Elsa whispered so quietly he was sure only he could here. “We can handle this. We’ll figure this out together.”
“Together,” Liam mused as his hands pulled her closer so she was flush against his body. “Got to say I love the sound of that.”
And though they’d only just met, and their journey together was still as new as new could be, Liam felt euphoric when his mate moved upwards to press a kiss to his lips. As crazy as this was, and as sudden as the shift had been from all hope being lost to every dream coming true, Liam wouldn’t have it any other way. Lost in the love he already felt coursing through him for her, he allowed the weight of his world to slip away, and as long as he had Elsa by his side, he knew there were no more beasts and no more demons that could ever be successful in holding him down.
……………
“So this hasn’t gone exactly as expected,” Emma commented as the rest of them watched Elsa and Liam connecting closer to the middle of the field. They were caught up in a heated kiss, but what was truly awe inspiring was the flow of magic all around them. You could see it and feel it all around them, and without even needing to be told of any set plans or remedies, Emma knew her friend was right when she said she’d be the one to heal Killian’s brother.  
To be honest though, this was quite literally one of the last things Emma ever could have anticipated. Even if she had believed that there was a chance that Liam might still be savable, she couldn’t have ever expected that his savior would be Elsa or that her best friend would find the same kind of true love in an instant as Emma and Killian had. It was a truly remarkable thing, and as she watched Liam and Elsa’s embrace she felt her eyes grow misty. This was such a blessing for so many reasons, not the least of which was that Killian would have one of the most important people in his life back. Finally after so long so many of his old hurts could heal, and in the process Elsa would hopefully find her own happily ever after, which Emma knew she absolutely deserved.
“No, love. I think it’s safe to say this has gone completely off the rails.”
“In a good way though,” Emma joked and Killian laughed, pressing a light kiss to her lips.
“Aye, in the best way. My brother has returned, Elsa is confident that she can heal him, and it turns out they are fated mates. Who would believe it?”
“Well while we’re on the subject of mates, the new sheriff is making my wolf act up. Could be nothing but -,”
Before Ruby could get the words out a growl sounded from the woods, and Emma looked over to see a giant wolf at the tree line. It was clear the wolf had been there for some time, and Emma had to assume this was Graham. Even though she’d been around shifters more and more the past few weeks, it was still an amazing thing to see. These animals were gorgeous and different and huge, and yet it was still totally Graham. Emma couldn’t explain it, there was just something about the way this wolf carried himself. Well that and the way that he was not pleased with Ruby underselling their connection, which was admittedly hilarious. Still, there was so much happening here, Emma couldn’t help shaking her head in continued disbelief.
“That doesn’t sound like ‘nothing,’” Anna said gleefully. “In fact, it sounds like this might just be my favorite day ever!”
“Don’t get me wrong, I’m totally here for the surprise love fest,” Tink replied as she stuck her thumb out in Graham’s general direction, “Especially if it means seeing this guy find someone after years of telling me he never would. You owe me a hundred bucks by the way, Humbert.”
Graham’s wolf made what was probably the animal equivalent of an amused snort, which caused everyone to laugh, except for Ruby who rolled her eyes in feigned annoyance.
“Oh what, like it’s hard to be fated for me?” Her words were barely out of her mouth and Graham had shifted back, holding her close and making her gasp as he leaned in to reassure her.
“Easiest thing I’ve ever done, babe. Count on that.” The words, corny as they sounded to Emma, made Ruby swoon, which in turn seemed to set off Elsa and Liam and even she and Killian.
“Okay, cool it cowboy. It’s been like ten minutes and there are other people present,” Tink said, sternly reminding the couples that now was not the time or place. “Like I was saying, this absolutely beats a battle to the death. But I gotta ask… are we actually out of the woods here? Is Liam safe to be around or to even have in town for that matter?”
“He’s safe,” Elsa and Ruby said at the same time and Emma felt the last of Killian’s tension leave him as he exhaled at their assurances.
“So it’s over then? That’s it?” Emma asked, her whole attitude brightening at the thought that this great daunting doom that had hung over them so long was finally through. Now she and Killian could get on with the whole settling in and building a life together thing, something that she was definitely ready for. And more than that, Liam not being a threat meant all of them were safe now. Her family could stop worrying, and her friends could rest easy. In short, this was a spectacular turn of events.
“Well I wouldn’t say it’s over,” Anna acknowledged with a wave of her hand. “It seems to me that it’s really only beginning. Plus if you think we’re ending this and I don’t get a fated match too then you’re crazy. I’ll be patient, but I will be finding true love, you hear me?”
It was impossible not to laugh at Anna’s words, and Emma tucked herself into Killian as she did, loving the rumble of his laughter as it moved against her at Anna’s antics. Closing her eyes for a brief moment Emma allowed herself to just take this all in. The sun was shining, the breeze was gentle as it moved through the glen, and the air around them crackled with that sense of rightness that Emma usually only felt when she and Killian were alone and trying to forget the world. That she could feel this with everyone was a gift, and Emma knew this was a turning point; it just had to be.
“Well, I think there’s really only one question left to ask,” Tink said with a look of pure amusement on her face. “Who’s telling the Nolans?”
“Not it!” Emma, Anna, and Elsa all chimed at the same time, but before they could debate amongst themselves who would deliver the updates to her parents, her mother’s voice interrupted over the static of the radio that no one had noticed until just now.
“Hey, I heard that! Oh shoot I forgot to say over. I heard that, over.”
Tink looked shocked and Emma knew that this wasn’t some elaborate prank. Tink was genuinely unaware that Mary Margaret had been listening in. They were all astounded, well all of them except Graham who immediately looked embarrassed. He motioned to the radio he’d been wearing and finally seemed to notice it had been set to on this whole time, even when he’d been in wolf form.
“That’s my bad. I gave her the extra radio at the station yesterday. Figured it would be the best way to keep them in the loop. I didn’t realize it was on all this time.”
“Was it really though?” Emma asked, knowing her mother could fully hear her now. “I don’t know how likely it is that Mom could hear everything happening today and keep quiet. First you and Ruby, then Elsa and Liam. It would have been an awful lot of temptation…”
“Emma!” Her Mom said with a tone of censure, but then there was mumbling in the background and she heard her mother sigh. “Okay fine, I wanted to say things but your father reminded me that if I did Graham would probably shut off the feed, and I just couldn’t risk it.”
“I may not know your parents well, but that sounds about right,” Ruby said with a smirk. “And five bucks says Granny’s in on this too.”
“No one’s dumb enough to take that bet,” Killian joked and sure enough Granny’s voice came through the feed confirming that she was there and enjoying all the updates as well.
“Oh I’m here, and I have all sorts of questions for this man who thinks he’s good enough for my Ruby Lee.”
“Oh Jesus,” Ruby said with the first show of embarrassment she’d had today. She grabbed the walkie talkie from Graham and finally put this all to bed.
“All right you three, show’s over. You’ve had your fun. Granny, I will see you tomorrow,” Ruby said, before backtracking after looking back at Graham whose eyes were on her and filled with both heat and a quizzical question asking if she’d really be up for company tomorrow. “Scratch that, I’ll see you soon…ish. You want references, you got them sitting right next to you. I’m sure Mary Margaret and David are all too happy to fill you in on all things Graham.”
Anna then took the reciever from Ruby and gave her own message to Emma’s parents. “And don’t worry, I was only playing earlier. I’ll be over to fill you in on everything you missed. All I ask is that you make one of your awesome blueberry pies. I don’t have a man yet, so I should at least get some damn dessert.”
Emma bit back another laugh at how quickly her mother agreed to that proposition, and over the next few minutes the group disbanded, with the new mates going to find alone time as Anna and Tink headed towards her parents house. For Emma and Killian though, there was so much to be said and so much to discuss, but Emma knew that they wouldn’t get into the details tonight. No, she didn’t see much in the way of talking happening tonight at all, not when the relief she felt was so distinctly mirrored in her mate’s eyes, and not when the lifting of the Liam burden had left space only for love and hope and happiness.
“Picture it, love,” Killian said as he brought her into the house, locking the door behind them and then pulling her into his arms so there was no space left between them. “A whole night just you and me and some good old fashioned peace and quiet.”
“Well I don’t know about quiet…” Emma teased as her hand trailed down his chest, her voice dropping a bit lower and the huskiness of her want for him sounding out undeniably in her tone. “I kind of like when we get all worked up.”
Killian’s growl gave away how much he loved that too, and the next thing she knew he was sweeping her up and bringing them to the bedroom. Whether it was shifter speed or just Emma’s own infatuated state any time Killian put his hands on her she didn’t know, but it felt like one second her feet were on the ground and the next she was pinned against the door in their bedroom as Killian gazed at her with lust and love and longing.
“Allow me to be more clear,” Killian murmured his mouth whispering the words against her skin between kisses as he moved from his lips to her jaw, down her neck and lower. “Tonight it’s just you and me and the love between us. Nothing – and I do mean nothing – is getting between me and my mate tonight.”
Killian murmured the words as he practically ripped the clothing from her body, and Emma was mindless to do anything but claw away the clothes he still had on too. She went from teasing to needy in the blink of an eye, and from the hungry, predatory gaze Killian sent her way, Emma knew the night before them would be anything but fast. No, Killian had other plans, and if the already delicious torment of his hands and his mouth were anything to go by, Emma was going to be more than satisfied in every way.
“Every day I wonder if I’ll be used to this yet,” Killian rasped against her skin as he brought her to the bed, trailing his wicked mouth along the bared flesh of her neck. He nipped lightly at one of the mating marks he’d left on her and Emma jumped, her body so hot and ready and wanting though they’d barely even begun. “I wonder if your beauty will stop taking my breath away, or if I’ll feel anything but awe here in your presence. Will my heart stop feeling fit to burst? Will my need ever calm or wane away?”
“And the verdict?” Emma asked as one of his hands moved up her thigh as his lips moved down to her breasts, his touches moving between gentle and demanding, riling her up so effortlessly.
“It’s a waste of wondering, love. For there will never come a day when I don’t crave you. I need you, Emma, more than anything the world over, and I love you in ways I can’t possibly put in words.”
“So show me,” Emma begged, her voice a breathy moan as Killian’s lips turned up in a sinfully sexy smirk.
“That’s exactly what I plan to do.”
Emma was so torn in this moment. Mindless with pleasure and crescendoing desire, she wanted to close her eyes and revel in all of his ministrations. His fingers came to touch her most intimate skin, and the brush of his thumb on her clit as his teeth nipped the sensitive part of her breast pulled more moans from within her. But if she looked away from him now, Emma would deny herself the pleasure of seeing the man she was made for looking both fantastically wild and totally in control. Killian was so damn attractive.  He always had her thinking the dirtiest things and craving something more, no matter the time of day, but seeing him like this, totally assured and completely in command of her body had her arching to be closer to him. He was magnificent right now – and if someone were to tell her there was a world outside of this bed right now she’d hardly believe them. She was so caught up in this moment, so strung out sensation, all she could do was feel and want and beg for more.
“Killian,” she pleaded, words failing her, and then he growled with satisfaction against her skin. 
The hum of his territorial action pushed Emma’s already aching need towards the edge of release. Then the anticipation pushed her still closer as he moved down her body, his lips tasting every part of her until his mouth came to feast on her, tormenting her into marvelous madness.  She shattered so quickly, but her mate wasn’t anywhere near satisfied. He pulled her climax from her only to tease her more, building her up and taking another. He seemed hell bent on a third but Emma was brazen now and desperate for more. She pulled him back up to her, and when he thrust inside, filling her completely she felt nothing but satisfaction and the most ethereal sense of completion.
There was no telling how long they were locked together like this. Both of them were consumed with the other, chasing release and saying with words and with actions everything they felt. This was more than love; it was destiny while somehow also being a choice. No matter what the mating call had said, Emma knew that their love transcended all of that. Nature was strong, but somehow this was stronger, and the pull of wanting never seemed to fade between them.
“You’re mine,” Emma whispered, when they were both spent and exhausted, as she placed another kiss to the place just above his heart. She must have said it a thousand times tonight, but each time it was both a claiming and a prayer. She was so happy to have this and to have Killian, and there was no denying that he felt the same. 
“And you’re mine, Emma. For far longer than forever.”
With those beautiful promises in mind, Emma lay there, wrapped up in her mate thinking about how sure this thing between them was. And as she drifted off to sleep, it was almost hard to discern reality from fantasy, because life, right here in this moment, was better than any dream. Because this life was real and it was hers and it was filled with endless, glorious, wonderful possibility. 
Post-Note: So some of you (okay probably all of you) must have seen this coming. I would never be able to write something so painful as losing Liam or Killian having to kill his brother. I always knew ever since the start that Liam and Elsa would be mates, and I knew that the only way to heal Liam would require magic. There’s much more to come in terms of the bite and how Elsa will help Liam, so rest assured that will be covered. And there’s also quite a few more chapters left to go. My plan is to have 22 chapters and then potentially an additional epilogue, and trust me when I tell you there is plenty more story yet, and all of our twists and turns are not quite over. Anyway thanks so much to all of you for all your love and support. It might be few weeks or so until I get to publish my next chapter because I am doing a lot of traveling now that school is out, but I promise it’s coming! Thanks again and hope you all have a great rest of your week!
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the-firebird69 · 2 years ago
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No this is a hard thing for a lot of people especially for my dad in law and first off he doesn't know what happened with her and I do and he thinks that Tommy asked me to have done something and I assure him that he did not and that I did have help and she escaped but not far and he's in space and says that he knows whereabouts and things like that he might not but if he does I doubt it regardless he has to see his wife's body work by with a clone attached it's very difficult for someone but I will assure cken did someone who cares about is going through much worse because he wills her by and partly in him and says stuff to her they're trying torture her into telling him things and I get questioned and situ quite a bit and I was working on a lot of stuff and I told them that I was working a lot of stuff because they know it and instructed them a little we have to get them out of there but they've been working on and stuff and they know has not come out fully and he doesn't have it if you guessed it in a lot of trouble and I don't want him to be alone and getting to it you need to have someone fighting you and so far he's alone down there for the most part in the deep especially the center of the Earth. Now people you who have other people's torsos on should know that people know you have them and what I say is it's a skillful thing to give them a clone body lot of clones die in combat they're all the same and to ask them how to get in there it's kind of a curse and it's not much of a job if they're reveal on purpose by the boss and others to try and force a mature from the inside out because you'll be dead that's why it's not a good job and one of them is here and they're helping with it and it is a decent idea.
But there's nothing to compare to the torture that someone receives by seeing your loved one went by possibly and seeing your body there and you looking a little like you but it's not your head and you can't tell them what's wrong and you only have your head it must be rectified
Zues Hera
I don't know what to say this is terrible we need to figure out what to do and he said he knows some things to do and Max is mass an army so I'm going out there and I'm asking him for a contingent to bring me out and back and I do know how it is and someone other than that guy who puts in the desert for Christ's sake that's stupid I don't want to go out and come back and see what's going on person need proof but the proof he says is right there and it's a witness and I do understand what you're saying oh my God this is horrible
Ken
This is a nightmare I've never had a nightmare like this before this is an important nightmare he's mentally retarded and he's a mean person and he's too smart for his own good he's intelligent too cuz I accuse about 120 or 1:30 and it's Tommy f is my brother this is Mike too I want to tell you something I've never heard stories like these this person is an abhorrent monster and he's blaming our friend is blaming his clan who are not here that that he murdered more or less and captured and he's telling everybody that it's them I don't want to hear it anymore horror stories I want this nightmare to be over and a friend helped us and mac daddy says he's been going through it for a long time and we do forget and remember this nightmare has to end
Mike teey
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god, that shit ross said makes me really upset. honestly, people who are really nice at heart don't just make a joke about killing an entire group of historically oppressed people; there's no way around that. it's a fact. an apology isn't enough to make up for something so callous and hurtful... it makes it really clear where ross and holly stand on this, seeing how defensive and rude they get to people about this.
Holy shit I typed a fucking essay so i’m putting it under the cut. I was going tyo type this up in an individual post anyways but since you’ve prompted me I’ll just put it here:
I get that. It upsets me too and I think the way that they’re looking at is that like...Pewdiepie wanted to see how far he could push these idiots by paying them to say something inherently horrible and he KNEW what he was doing was fucking terrible and he still did it. This is where they say “but he didn’t mean it because he knew it was a bad thing to say and that’s why he made them do it because he’s showing how over dramatic capitalism is!” I mean....yeah, I guess but his “joke” crossed the fucking line. He should have thought about how every time he makes a shitty rape joke or makes fun of POC that he has to apologize for it whether he means it or not so OBVIOUSLY that shit has repercussions. He could have paid them to say something entirely different and silly and still tested to see how far they would go without pulling this bullshit and I’m fairly certain that the big Youtubers don’t understand that?? They think like “oh no but he didn’t mean it he just wanted to see if they’d actually do it he’s not a nazi or a bad person” like.... good people fuck up all the time and being in the spotlight 24/7 isn’t an easy thing to do and can be really bad for a person’s mental health but that’s not an excuse to just needlessly and nonchalantly attack a large group of people???? (especially ones that are still being targeted very heavily)
I love Holly and Ross and Mark and Jack and co. very dearly but I think they just don’t....understand... and if they do I think they’re turning a blind eye to it. Like I get that all of them are saying that what Felix did was a really shitty thing and was not cool. That’s the good thing, no one so far has actually defended his bigotry. They’re also just such nice, soft people that they’re willing to give him the benefit of the doubt despite the fact that he’s done shitty things like this in the past but on a smaller scale (as small scale as any of his multi-billion hit videos can be, anyways.). Jack and Mark specifically are pretty good friends of Felix and he’s part of their inner circle so it’s kind of hard for them to go like “nah that’s it you’re out” when he plays a major role in their connections to people and even just as friends.
Felix influences a lot of people and whether people take what he did as a joke or seriously, people are going to associate him with that action now and people who DO take it seriously are going to flock to him for more similar content and it’s going to make the bro community even more unsafe and unstable than it is already. I’ve seen people try to combat this whole thing with pictures and quotes of him with Make a Wish kids and shit saying that he’s not a bad person after all and that he was able to give them happiness or some bull but like.... Bad people can do nice things for people?? Especially if it gives them good publicity or they happen to feel generous at the time. I’m not saying that Felix had any malicious intentions when he hung out with the Make a Wish children or that he did it for selfish reasons necessarily but “doing good” doesn’t always equate to being a good person and it’s not proof. Like I said earlier, Good people do bad things sometimes and likewise Bad people do good things sometimes too.
Yes, Felix is human. Yes, human beings fuck up (appealing to his humanity was Mark’s reasoning) and no, I don’t think because he said this really fucking, abhorrent and shitty thing that he’s actually a nazi. He’s said this as far as I know, once and has not displayed any sort of nazi behavior in the past and unless he keeps doing it regardless of the fact that everyone is down his throat about it then I think it’s fair to assume that he is not a nazi (although the statement was inherently anti-semetic). He is however, as time and time again will show, a huge dickbag. He is not above making fun of POC, disabled people, rape victims and PTSD in general and the list goes on. A nice person does not do that sort of thing on a regular basis and then continue to do it even after he’s made shallow “apology videos” because his fans demanded it (or they’d leave) and not because he wanted to do it. He might be an okay friend when you’re around him or his “stage persona” might be different from who he is when he’s actually with a group of people but it’s still who he is. He chooses to have his stage persona like this and it’s still part of his personality and it’s still HIS actions, HIS words, HIS choice.
Those fucking idiots didn’t have to accept the money and actually display what he told them to do either so they’re on the hook too.
Lastly, and this may be a little sensitive for some people but I’m honestly going to use this to drive my point home: You in any way, shape or form cannot just say “well don’t take it seriously, he said he was joking.” Alright. Well. If that’s the case, how would you feel if someone came up to you and said “I hope you get raped tonight. I hope you get brutally stabbed to death and that your whole family was watching. JK LOL it’s just a joke.” IT DOESN’T MATTER WHETHER YOU MEANT IT OR NOT IT’S A TERRIBLE FUCKING THING TO SAY TO SOMEONE???? YOU JUST DON’T DO THAT??? Like Holy shit I cannot  believe I have to use that example to explain it to some people. It still emotionally damages people. “Oh but they’re different things that has nothing to do with it” yes it fucking does. It was a personal attack on all Jewish people by using them as a punchline. because it’s so funny that their lives are seen as disposable by people because holocaust jokes are great right??? That whole thing with Hitler was uncomfortable so let’s make jokes about it and use the death of millions of Jewish people as a punch line and dehumanize them to the point where “death to all jews” is defended as a joke because “everyone does it”. How about No? Nope. No. Go in the trash can Right Now.
People are going to see that Pewdiepie did it and therefore they can do it too because it was funny :) They’re just kidding after all LOL!!!! The fact that someone can joke about the death of a group of people (whether it be Jewish or otherwise) just for EXISTING and then be enabled to breed hate like that is because we slap people on the wrist and refuse to give them real punishment. “Yes what he did was bad but he’s a good person” is “yeah u did a bad thing just don’t do it again okay billy? :)” Like. Please. I love my Youtubers and a LOT of them are defending Felix and while they don’t condone his actions, they’re also saying that he’s being treated unfairly because he told people to go die and we’re finally calling him out on his bullshit bad behavior. No, he’s not being treated badly. Yes, the media may be scandalizing the whole situation and playing it up and making it more dramatic than it has to be but he deserves to be ridiculed and made an example of because of the impact of his fame and the consequences that action will ultimately have on not just his whole fanbase, but people in general.
God, remember when Beliebers™ startedcutting themselves because Justin condoned it and there was a mass outbreak of girls cutting themselves just because he said so? What if Bros started fucking attacking people because they thought it would appease Pewdiepie? Whether he meant to or not it could have caused some kid out there to take it seriously and use it as justification to harm someone or to seek validation by Pewdiepie himself. What the fuck would he have done then? No one seems to think about this shit and think that “jokes” like that whether they mean them or not won’t have real world consequences. Influence is powerful and there are lots of people whose only friendships are one way enamor with Youtubers.
“Blue, you’re taking this too seriously” No, you know what? Fuck you, you’re not taking this seriously enough. When shit hits the fan and balls out of control because no one pays for their actions and are pardoned or swept under the carpet because “they’re a nice person to their friends” or because they’re famous and start doing whatever they want because they know they can get away with it for the most part... Then YOU are allowing this to happen and YOU can deal with those consequences when everyone looks to you and asks why you did nothing to stop them.
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beyondthetemples-ooc · 8 years ago
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“Valentine Fandom Ask Meme”
Disclaimer: It’s a shipping meme, and I’m blunt and honest; there are going to be some anti-ship mentions here. NOTPs mentioned [vehemently] include BBRae, Ja//s//pis, and Terraven.
You have been warned.
Your favourite non-canon ship? ...mmmh, this depends: define "canon". ;}P Canon as in, not CANON-canon, but canon in my fanfictions?~ SECERTSHIPPING. Dove and Srentha are my forever favorite. Their relationship is incredible and they're genuinely a romantic inspiration to me. ...however... As for "not a canon romantic couple in the actual canon universe"? I have to say RobRae. I can't help it, it just... feels like if they canonically felt that way for each other, it would work. Really, really well.
Is there a ship you didn’t like at first but ultimately started shipping? ....Not that I can remember.......
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Name a popular ship you don’t get the appeal of. BBRae. Ever. At all. Never have. Probably never will. (People have... nice thoughts about them. In theory. But when things related to what they've thought happen in canon, it's.... either detrimentally badly done (re: comics), or it ENDS badly in the show. I just sense absolutely no romance about them.
What is your most fluffy + happy ship? .....SecretShipping... although I get a very intense case of the softer, quieter cousin to Warm+Fuzzies from my canonical OTP, JeriRae. Even when things are terrible and painful and destroying me (and then), their relationship is just... so powerful. (I always think about that scene where Something is Very Wrong with Raven, pre-Tarror-of-Trigon. and Joey knocks on her door. she tells him to go away-- then, realizes it's him.. and still tells him, not to come to her. Not to disturb her. And she ends up collapsing against the door, and you don't see it but it is HEAVILY implied that she's crying, and Joey's sitting on the other side, despite everything. And I just....................azar, it takes my breath away.
What is your most angsty ship? ...Well... See the above answer. JeriRae is angsty because of circumstance, more than the people themselves. In Arella's words (after Joe dies, I believe?), she said Raven could never have LET herself love him, "not then" (before Terror of Trigon). And that... my friends, is something you like to call "angst" and I like to call "too painfully fucking relateable". So the depth of personal rapport in the angst: That one. Buuut, there was this book series I liked for, well, the first three anyways, and a show made from it called Legend of the Seeker. The show made the ship far more palatable to me, Richard and Kahlan. (The books got waaay too sexual and FAR too repetitive with it after the fourth book. Just, ew.) But the show was always... encouraging. I liked their relationship and its endurance and complexities, a lot.
A non-canon ship that should be canon? ...I feel really weird about the thing that happened between Raven and Dick in the comics? Like... I'm not saying Dick SHOULD have loved her back. But there was set of issues where Raven was "in love with" Dick. And here's the thing: Kory steps in. Not in a "Get away from my man" sort of moment, but more like... "I don't think you love him romantically". And what bothers me about this is that... How would Starfire know? Starfire isn't in Raven's head. Yes, she's far more familiar with emotions than the girl whose only education on it was Never Ever Have Them. But... perspective, Kory. What if Ravne DID love him romantically? She KISSED him, for godsake. (Also, Wally and Raven. For the first few, dozen or so issues, anyways. We don't talk about Wally and Raven.)
Your oldest ship; the one you’ve shipped for the longest time? ......honestly, on a REAL level, it had to have been secretshipping. I didn't do the whole "shipper" internally, mindset... fandgasming... thing..... for RobStar, although I've always liked them as a couple. SecretShipping was the first one that introduced me to Feeling Feels for Their Relationship. (Of course, they're my own, so I'm not so sure if it counts. ;P But it was there.)
What ship represents the kind of relationship you’d love to have? JeriRae. Absolutely. And, well, secretshipping-- and lapidot, SORT of? (but the whole "healing from a terrible abusive situation" thing can be left at the door... problem is, that's like of like 95 of Lapis's angle in the 'ship. not to say I haven’t.... been where lapis is. it just hasn't been so... cut and dry for me...........)
Is there a ship that makes your skin crawl? bbraaaae. (Most of the time. Recently I've found... let's see, TWO authors that don't make it... completely and totally OOC and abhorrent to me. There were a couple of fanfictions I enjoyed because it was as subtle and just SLIGHTLY more successful than their interactions in canon, so it wasn't horribly misshapen. But even in the canonical comics, it was just... SO sloppily done. Clumsy and forced. My friend Teri over there is RPing the ship with depth and sincerity and development, not suddenly going "!! SHE KISS". Out of nowhere. Like.... ....???? johns, why. (well besides the fact that your favorite was beast boy and your wife's favorite was raven and you thought it'd be cute to shove them together because of your own relationship.)
What is a character you can only imagine in one particular ship? ...........this is........ hard. I'm not sure I have one. Cyborg, maybe? With Sara?
What is your favourite canon ship? JeriRae is absolutely my canonical OTP, and it always has been, and I think it will be very hard for anything to usurp it as my Genuine Sincerest Favorite Ship.
Name a ship that deserved more content. JERICHO. AND. RAVEN. HOLYGOD ^ Now, ^^^this^^^ reaction is mainly @ the fandom? But canonically.... Marv Wolfman once said that his singular regret in his entire history of writing comic books was killing off Joey Wilson. (and no small wonder because he didn't deserve it and it didn't add to the story where like seven other people died anyways, and it wasn't fair, it wasn't what he deserved, it wasn't... what anyone wanted to see.) Point is, their relationship never, really... had a CHANCE to go anywhere. It was well established, I think-- as well as you can canonically, blatantly establish someone who doesn't talk about her feelings and someone else who can't speak his. But it was there. It was in interviews. And it was... absolutely gorgeous, in its subtlety, gentleness, and development. But.... ahhhh, it was forcedly over far, far too soon.... damn you, 90's gimmicks.
Is there a ship you feel gets undeserved hate in fandom? ......RobRae? Like... I get that people don’t' have to agree with things. But, like: some of the things people SAY. (And the hypocrisy; so many of their arguments are ironically exactly what could be turned right about to THEIR ships!) Oh, and also Lapidot.
What is the first ship you had? ...see answer, re: Oldest Ship.
Is there a ship that made you realise something about yourself? .....oh. Not... that I can remember.... (Characters, moments........ that fucking thing with Malchior; I just-- okay. Well. A lot of the things he said really RESONATED with me, and I still recant some of them like mantras, because they're things I genuinely NEEDED to hear, in all my struggles and isolation. Things that made me think, for once: Isn't it OKAY to be a little darker? Is it, then, not WRONG to be misunderstood? look, people, I relate to raven on levels no human being should ever be allowed to relate to a fictional half-demon. But what he said CHANGED my outlook, and that was something I needed. Problem is: If you ship Raven and Malchior after everything he did to her, there will be no mercy in my verbal assault of your understanding of love and betrayal.)
Is there a type of ship you always go for? ...Emotional rapport, above all else. I'm demi-gray sexual and romantic; I can't even feel any sort of romantic attraction between others, or see any evidence of it existing, without emotional closeness. The ships that mean the most to me, are often the ships with someone I relate to most, and their partner being someone that treats them well. Raven and Jericho, someone who's quiet and reticent and someone who's expressive and forcedly silent but able to say so much in action. Both so strong, so vulnerable. It's a beautiful dynamic. And never once is the whole "oh, your father's evil too? Hey I know that feel" thing played as a REASON for them to have built this relationship. And then we have Lapidot, where the shift in dynamics may have been a bit meddled in by Steven, but even so, we see Lapis is healing from this deep trauma, and Peridot is protecting her in such little, subtle ways. They're working together to create something they both want.
Is there a ship the writers have ruined for you? If it can mean a ship I already so strongly opposed but they ONLY made it WORSE, then yes, BBRae. All the way.
Is there a ship the fandom has ruined for you? Well, I don't go into the Lapidot tags.... and it's safe to say I'm minorly disappointed in the lack of JeriRae art and stories and such.
Have you ever created fan created content for a ship? SecretShipping. I mean, I write the damn things. /X3 But also pictures, moments, playlists... you know. I'M a legit fan of my babies, too... 8P
Favourite thing you’ve ever created for a ship? Does Leyla count? ;D (she's their daughter.)
Is there a ship you’ll never admit you have? ....If I did have such a ship, it wouldn't be written on this post.
Have you ever started shipping a ship because of the fans? Lapidot was introduced to me through fanfics, and I realized: ohyes if they are both stuck on Earth, how interesting would it be to see them interacting?
What is one scene you want to see happen for all your ships? ...Okay, okay, okay okay okay. I don’t do the whole "day-dreaming fluffly romantic" thing. But I have...
Secrestipping: I have already seen it. (Dove allowing her self to be HONEST towards her conflict with him, and instead of running away from it, accepting it, allowing herself to love him, and taking a stand against everything she doesn’t want, and what he needs to know. Letting him IN!
For JeriRae? I cannot tell you how much I cherish those little moments. I don't know what I would have WANTED to happen with them..... but wouldn't it be cool to have seen Arella and Joey interact?
Lapidot: I don't even know I just want to know how they're doing with the whole "No More Homeworld for Us" thing.
I there a ship you wish you didn’t know existed? bb....r.ae..... and, uhh. lapis and jasper. how the FUCK do you ship an ABUSIVE relationship like that with GLEE? (I'm not talking, "explore the dynamics of an abusive relationship in the way that psychologically-inclined authors do", I'm talking, "actually think that work wELL together".)
And THEN there's Terra and Raven. Just. Don't even. Fucking. It's blacklisted, get it out of my face, don't so much as MENTION it near me, I don't understand how ANYONE Can ship them and MEAN it; it's fucking PAINFUL. You SAW how they spat acid at each other and just fucking... ? ?? ????? HOW IS THAT ROMANTIC IN THE *SLIGHTEST*. (Terra and Raven is a much more deeply-set viscerally-responsive NoTP to me than BBRae ever was. THAT, my friends, canonically anyways? THAT is entirely abusive.)
Name a ship that ended like you wanted it to. SecretShipping... and, I had no idea I needed it until I saw it happening, Leyla and Toby in their QPR-- queer PLATONIC relationship! What a weird situation that was; I had no idea if they were romantic or what, but it was obviously something deep and special. but I just. Found out about QPRs and suddenly-- OH. That's what Leyla and Toby are!!!
Name a ship that deserved better in the end. JeriRae.
Is there a character you have several ships for? ...nnnot that I'm aware of? I like multiple ships with Lapis honestly, but only just slightly, and in the "that's an interesting dynamic but I don't see them working out romantically" sort of way.
What is the ship you ignore 98% of canon for? ...b...b.....ra...e..... (The comic canon. I don’t have to ignore much honestly; it was in, like, seven issues, total, in the entire history of their team. but canonically as a ship? Gods I'm happiest when it forget that ever happened)
Is there a ship you like but you dislike the fandom? The fandom as in the franchise it's from, or The Fandom, as in the people shipping it? Or the fandom OF the franchise? Because Lapidot and Steven Universe is borderline for me. (I prefer my quiet, maybe-involving-friends shipping to the mob mentality this fandom seems to love.)
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throwingideasatthewall · 4 years ago
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The Clone Wars         Duchess of Mandalore
                Season 2 Episode 14
......
You know      I want to believe     this is going to be an episode    focusing     on Duchess’s actual character        . . . .      But the track record     of writing female characters    (Never mind blam   ing trauma for their personality )
Doesn’t     leave     much       Good      Faith      Or     trust       . .          (especially how often their    Characterization gets to     Ret-conned.   to fit the     episode,)
(Padme turned into a nag,               Ahsoka      In     unchildlike     abomination       that goes with a plot needs    her       to)
Duchess;
From     Relat     iv-ely        Reas        On      Able     Leader         .  .   .       Turned        exquisite          and       Ex-      - cess         -ive         (Pe        tty)
Con      trast-      With      Semi-     Constant      Smart   “laziness”       avoidant      Obi-wan       And     “Do      It     Sky   wal   -ker-
 I don’t expect this to     stick
     (Al-ways     the female  characters,”
Any. Way
And war,  truth is the first casualty,
[It’s actually   accountability    but good try]
 Deluding them selves of the     goodness usually comes after the bad action
 Any way.
The     terribly designed ship
(I’m sorry but that thing doesn’t even look even slightly      aerodynamic) 
(The shark    ship at least had that)
   ?
[it was one apparent smoke bomb and she wasn’t allowed to        do anything to try and fix it,]
  But sure...    let’s go with that        .      Allies
[Never got a feel for that and    one dude was always    snarking at her,] No  shit 
everyone can see that
And     it was one dude
  [They haven’t     heard of this yet]
 [This plot-     isn’t very good]
Right     -      ok now they’re   im-portant-
 Sit and and wait 
 As Duchess makes her case that this is just one splinter group that she can handle
Some thing you wouldn’t think would     need a trial
[Only     becoming a problem when it affects other people]
        [suffering from the Luminara               problem, where if she doesn’t meet up to      high unreasonable standards.             In an unreasonable               amount of time                    (Little)                     Instantly lambasted by         her colleagues.                             With the     nar-rative showing no signs of painting this is wrong                                Or the fact of the   male characters can feck around     screw       everything       up,        And that   isn’t considered      serious
    [Narrative’s              a           Cheater. .)
        How long
These are   actual good evil minions    
(No this could actually be good with them becoming something like the clone troopers to the, Darkside
   Making up for a lack        of human faces in the ranks         up to this point,
   Establishing that while they may be the          instigator of tox,          Actions are about   ~now~          Less abhorrent than the     Empire’s            /       Coun-       cil-
‘the       Plot,’
 Completely irrelevant
   (And stupid)
Relying on everyone   being a complete       un-     accountable-       Idiot.
  Great plan you got there      Dooku,
 How’s Duchess’s explaining that’s-not-at-all-what-happened-and-we-don’t need a foot hold and all security,     going?
Like you think he’d be more mad   Considering what seems like the only plot,          Intercepting the        vehicle in transit,         Failed       horribly,
   Unless, the guys didn’t tell     him - And he still thinks they have      Duchess -which would make     sense...because of course they sent troops for the lost     foreign    leader
    (Would’ve been a     good episode for both        of them)
    (Not sure that would cause      a riot though-)
   (-Which would make sense if Obi-Wan was the last         one they saw around here-      Thinking, that a Jedi      captured their leader,
]
 But I’m getting ahead of myself      let’s focus on the       actual plot.    .
Whoa rows
To Coursant
I thought you just said to    . . .sit still and leave.
         What?                ...     
          What
Oh so we’re focusing on another     cliché plot instead of the actual characters
  (*Note;           Cliché             As              in              a           badly        established           already       done plot              . . .           There’s        nothing          wrong           with          doing         repeat          plot           so           long                as         you          do        them         well
    What you bring     into it is the fun part           (Ideally)
     Aight?
      How?
They’re just         there
Also yeah you already know that there there you already know what they’re doing you still haven’t done anything about it
    So?
      [I was about to say where is the courier guy     but he’s dead]
     R.I.P shortly lived villain          Killed off for a shitty       written romance-
 -He deserved         better
    Ok
  Whatever 
    Why
 [i’ve seen that image multiple times        but I never realized the city was in the ball
     [also how is this the palace     where several important officials meet         And the nice forest is supposed to be this            mining hell hole
The environments-           They’re-
  So yeah we know it’s there, but like last time we’re not going to do anything about it
   [like I said Saltine did get back at some point and          everyone’s logic was just ok let’s go complain to the council        for no reason,]
           [I     dislike this logic)
          Why?
           Just...?            Why
             Also yeah who’s in charge     while she’s away?
               I mean we’ve already got like a lot of      senators’ sus
    What?
    Things         Happen          Ing
    Also yeah palace   right back to the way it was,
    I guess it was a smoke       bomb. .
   Right?
    You left     the Boomer in control?
     Also, so yeah I’m surprised he didn’t run out to be a     mastermind either
     Like, yeah        That        can happen
  But given the      “legacy and proud of everything      thing,”
     You’d think he’d be the main target
    [Makes a lot more sense than Random     Sen   ator       #4
   And he was the only one in that     hallway with Obi-Wan-
 -
During their   argu-     ment-
Prime      Minister-      It      Makes      Sense          -
You found     the deathwatch     armies         -    isn’t   hard         -           It   was like five guys last time
Now just like them, you have allowed, the situation       to get worse
Good job     smart guys.
Battle
Really because they seem like the same group of nerds
?
What?
??...
   ?
  Deathwatch will never be strong enough
 Yeah, no shit  
 Guess you      shouldn’t do anything stupid
     [how long until something           stupid happens?]
       Beyond          the normal               . . .
       Here
Seriously how does this   plan make any sense?
Jedi- come here      - everyone-         Loses         their         shit  
  How?                - like      I know it be unpleasant to have some guys     stomp into              Your               House
         But there’s literally no need for     that..
    Considering         the situation            isn’t out of control
     And       Satine should be fully capable of handling the situation
       - And telling the Senate to feck off
       - And don’t tell me he’s doing this because she’s       passive because he’s been everything but passive in defending her passive beliefs,
   [Something        not really      elaborated          on]
  Stop
  NOT BE        AN IDIOT!
  Also,
    [I really don’t like this      plot        it makes no sense,”.     ]
Whelp-
  Fuck-
  That        Got        Dark-
[but possibly make sense if this is how she   sees members of the republic,        As a dark   brooding force that will hurt everyone if     she’s not careful,
Significant deadly threat
How?
They-     smoke bombed one building
[That’s   juvenile]
  [The situation is not out of control]
 In the narrative’s attempt to over blow this isn’t done     ,correctly
   You need to have         self     aware     ness.
Bumper cars
Good
[Also you had to come to the      Senate to say that]
(This could’ve been an email)
  Or a photo       op/        State       -ment-
    ?
  Duchess why did you come here   you knew they were going to pull this shit
Like this helped     nothing
And the narrative,
What was a good     situation that was supposed to come out of this?
You stand before a council of people who decided to fight, saying I don’t fight
   [ and these are toxic people         mind you]
There was   no way this is going to end up good;
And I don’t.. know what the     narrative?
Padme?
Also what is with the weird bumper car      rules?
Because it seems like anyone can come up at any time and ask   any question?
    [Like,      how is that not chaos?]
   Wo rking under           toxic assumed authority.       .
 “People-
   ‘ I call to the stand        Obi-Wan (Kenobi)          and Anakin             Of the Jedi         order, to      provide testament,”
      That’s all    that had to be said..
        On top              of;
“My government will submit to peace keepers   actual peace keepers -      Un-armed-        For        Eval     -uation,’
   That would make sense
 And work off     Satine’s      Ad-       vers         Ion-         To Obi-Wan,    and the Jedi Council,
   True
  Dick,
  -Jedi
Yeah, she didn’t reject, she allowed the Jedi to do a full   investigation,
Also as     brutal as the scene is,    it is a good show of you     reap what you   sow       and enablers  turning on a enablers
 Even though Satine   should’ve known better than     to argue peace     with a war   council...
Obi-won      says   nothing         . . .
  Fuck        You          (Good)
     Bad         Ass
    Lots of politicians            speaking,
     Wait-
     Dick-
   Appro      priate-
   Ser-iously       touching         someone     without         their        consent?
       Dick       entitled         move.
   Spec.    Ifically.
   After        he      stood        by       and    watched      that     happened     -       Senate          -         Yeah cause you were there       and you did nothing
Better;
  Saltine calls Obi-Wan as a witness        (Both Obi-Wan and the others.        (Anakin) standing watch      over her       home planet
    They failed to respond         due to being in the middle of some thing
   Or just distracted
    This makes looks     Satine          Look     extremely        bad,           That           Jedi            are            not     Re-sponding           On         her home planet
     The vote gets passed
    Satine is more than     distressed
    When Obi-Wan     Coms her                  In
       They            argue,           Satine           Sni,pping.               A.                Bro-ken           Promise
        “You said            you’d be there              for me                (This                Time)]
    “You’re never there when I need you,”
   “You’re never there when it         matters          most,”
       With that,        the conversation ends
       Satine possibly getting ready to defend herself against the   republic
     Coming to invade   her home
        Im-bittered               Sweet
Didn’t help at all but    okay,
We’re friends
 Good
[To be fair        the romance was so forced,      that friendship is honestly best,]
Ah,         Lady,           You just got a friendship last   block,
  No need   to act       surprised.
  Nothing        More
    Good because there was no chemistry    between you      up to this point,
   State of mind  
  ....
  What?
  What state of mind?
  ...
 She’s       fine!
  Yeah she      over reacted to the dude
   But - got everything together when it         mattered-
   THANK YOU!
 That was an         asinine statement
    Hysterical
No   they wouldn’t be
That isn’t a   compliment.
That’s      Invalidation.
  Dick   Obi-Wan
  Point!
  So much  
point in this!  
  I am so  
pleased.. 
 (Though
   regular,”    
 I only - 
 Gas-    
lighting
 “I’m-  
 Yes!
  Mhm
This is some  
Bomb ass tea
De-licious
(I just realized       my phrasing           of words             I’m so-)          
     It’s good is the point
(Doesn’t it make up what happened in the   previous episodes,     
   But,           Makes                it           easier            to              forget                        . . .    
 Accoun-           tability                 -                 Is        the     word        you’re        looking         for        (The    character,       not       the     writer,”)        They’re          doing          good                   .    ... You   live with a child       groomer          (Are           One)
Does make sense.  Obi-won closest to the problem       (Groomed       specifically       in benefit of it)            Still sad      that they just gave up
     Even if he does   have a point   That Two generations    have essentially         grown up          Anakin        and   their time   as the present     is over
   Bit too late to have a     regrets
    (Only   when it   screws      you over..
  Not      the     future   generations)
    And...
    My     sympathy        is    officially       gone         (Not       the   storytelling’s      fault,             I         think       they           work      -ed       this   conversation      pretty         well            -          Just         the        facts          to        narcs          arguing              -             Still         made          me           think        about         what       exactly         what         was        wrong             -           That’s       good       (narc)Con   versation,
Any way,
  I love       this song
   Obi-Wan gets roasted for all his bad         behavior 2.0...
  It’s nice
Crusade
This   Convo was good
      (It made me feel better about all the times the   writers used cheating tactics)
        *Not for                      giv-ed
just- better
?
[That expression-   was concerning]
 There
Aight
That-      Was-
  Chilling
[You just spent the whole time getting yelled out      for his deeds, just continued on,    emotion     less]
The       “respectable”          kind       (Approp-riate       for an           adult)
Aight
  [Oh- no are they going to have the Obi-won rescue her and that proves that all her opinions are wrong?
 Not actually; she made some really good   points
  But in the       narrative   treating?
    (I don’t    want to see     that)
Okay,    whelp,
Coursant has the   worst security ever,
  How?
Damn      Frick
  Is a     bad day for her,
  Filed
Some random dude   hijacked your car
Who are you going to     sue?
Bitch
Queenie,     dude’s obviously an asshole
Leave
Also if there was no proof then why aren’t you charging her for vandalism terrorism, etc?
(See his logic is       bullshit,)
also this is a good example of   obstructive   bureaucrat          . . .
    Or avoidant
Because how do three people       nearly dying not constitute as proof?
   [Like if she       died.]
   Also, what’s the plan      if she did?
   Like; Oh yeah deathwatch is such a threat that they killed     a senator
     Those     dudes      don’t care
They only pissed at her because she’s a pacifist coming into  a      Offensive summit
  Accident
[she accidentally    drove her car.     [Yelling      at the     villain]
Not     what      she   said
This dude could give     Obi-Wan a run      for his gas lighting,
   Whelp
    Fuck         Off
     Oh yeah the council   of war mongers will really respect the       pa-   cifist
No bias     here
None   whatsoever
Satine 
   Hey    at least this time he had the   common decency not to      grab her-
 dick
  ?
Oh yeah defender of the   gaslight-ing committee  she’ll definitely help
Worry     You
Don’t give into the gaslight-
Also guilt tripping
 “ i’m afraid on that account,”
   No,
 Dick
 Valid     re-ac-     tions
 Shit-
“Victim   blaming”       (Toxic    blaming)
    Pretty sure     they’re all enablers      at this point
        Tox-
Ma’am
Leave the   ball of tox     known as Obi-Wan
Man has turned from a     garbage fire      to a         gas       fire,
Coursant
  Yeah,       you should leave,
  Also,        That       Moment,
    You        are        one         of         them.
    You’re not   backing down
     👉       This       Not,
Con
Don’t listen to     Obi-Wan      He     sucks
Also none of the guards are going to zap him for     touching their queen     unannounced?       - - - Friends
You’re not her   friends
You’ve been   nothing      but a dick
   Gas       lighting
    Nope
    Tox.
   [like listen to that   ag-gressive tone,          How he’s holding     her
        Tox
    [Still   good on the animators who did that scene,          Very good            work,]
     Occ-upation
          Shit
        Happen
Oh     Shit-
Obi-won     distracted         her?
   Aight
 Meeting
   What
    How-
Hm,
Wait-      Huh
[this is some kangaroo Court      logic
   It’s        Good.]
    Before
  “Relying on the Republic is a mistake,”
    Yesssss
      More           Acc-        Toxic      initiative         (Since there’s         no to         little         way         they         end             this)            Based               on       circumstance            only             (No            different          sources)
       Any-way                Um
          Okay
           Right                      Just                Vibin’g
          Aight              Whelp,
           Am                 I?
Oh is that the           Senator             guy?
Death   watch?
Also-      okay
Al-     right.
   ?
  Wait        What?
     Hm?
    Green
      We know       two greens             And one   changeling            That should be in   custody- 
     Wait-           ?
       ?
     What?
      ? ? ?
    EXPLAIN
        ?
      Who-
      What
        ?
       At-
    This was a pretty a’ight episode
     (Trust me I wish      I could give it higher praise)
   However the           unfortunate           clankiness of the introduction
           Keeps it stubbornly between a decent          and good
       With that            being            said;
           That does not        take away from the fact that is           a ____ whatever it is
    -it has good characterization         for Satine
   - it handles heavy morals like enabling, tox,       abuse and        pro-         blems      With        Assumed           Autho rity-     Includ        Ing       Police          Bru-       tality        And        Fram       -ing          Very        Well
   (With the   appro-       priate       dignity it deserves,
 [there’s a small bit of better done romance/      fond-ness, near the           End]
   *Villain was neat
   [More of sidious      and on the [Main] villains
     There           were             few         Moments            that            Made              Me              Go              Wtf            (Obi              Wan’s          Abuse                  Of               The              Word               “Saw                 You,”                  The               Insist              Ence                 That               Death               Watch                Was              In                  Tim                   i-                dating
            As                For                Fix                -ing;
Episode;  Instead of to defend,   Wise        Saltine is called                           To ident       ify a               Death                           Watch                         Member-                             Or                             Re                             New                              Her                              Neu-                             Trality                             Pledge                               In                              Person                             (Due to                              Change     ling    (Over       Lap)                           Attack
                         Episode                               Pro                               Gress                                  Es
Arc     Fixes;
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A accessible adviser for autograph about shitty chump behavior on the internet is to ask yourself, “am I at all alleviative this shitty behavior as if it is awesome?” If the acknowledgment is yes, STOP DOING IT.
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A lot of you accept noticed that the aboriginal adventure in aftermost Monday’s BCO about a Starbucks chump who scams/torments his barista every distinct day of the year has taken on a awe-inspiring activity of its own amid added online sources (a 18-carat acknowledge you for the emails, by the way; they were abundant appreciated). Let’s epitomize the story, from a pseudonym called Brad Halsey:
There is a man who comes to my Starbucks every distinct day and orders the best abhorrent alcohol in an infuriating way. He purchased 365 Starbucks cards and registered every one of them online with a altered altogether so that he gets a “free altogether drink” EVERY DAY OF THE YEAR. Alike admitting I apperceive absolutely how he “beat the system” there, he pretends that his app is aloof adulterated and it magically gives him the aforementioned chargeless altogether alcohol every day. If he was a nice guy, I ability not be so irritated. But he’s not a nice guy. Actuality is a sample of our barter aback he orders (when you brainstorm his voice, it should be affected and creepy):
Me, afflictive on the inside: “Hello.”
Him: “I charge a Venti cup and a marker.”
Me: “Oooooohkaaaay. Actuality ya go.”
I cautiously accord him the cup and marker. He draws curve and arrows and writes all over the cup while cogent me: “Two pumps of white mocha here, again add bristles pumps of vanilla. That should booty us to this band actuality area you’re gonna add algid abundant chrism up to this backbone here…it should be center amid this band and this line. Make abiding to add the abundant whipping chrism afore the espresso, it changes the aftertaste if you do it out of order. Again add your four shots, three approved and one continued shot. That continued attempt is important, aback you guys reformulated your machines, it’s been Hell aggravating to get my alcohol right. That continued attempt helps antithesis it. Again activity it for me, Mister Brad. Now do me a favor and add ice to the top there and it’ll be accessible as pie. I’m not captious so don’t anguish about afraid it or annihilation like that.”
Me: “OK. Accessible as pie.”
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Him: “Now they arena it up for me like this: one cloister espresso, add white mocha, sub vanilla, sub abundant cream.”
[He wants it rung up that way so he aloof has to pay $3.00 for a alcohol that absolutely should be about $6.50 if it was rung up accurately as an Algid Cloister Venti Boilerplate White Mocha with abundant chrism instead of milk.]
Me: “Gotcha.”
Him: “Now I’m activity to use my chargeless altogether accolade to pay. Did I acquaint you about my altogether accolade app malfunction? The app is busted up and it’s been giving me the aforementioned chargeless altogether alcohol for twelve canicule now! I mean, I’m not activity to accuse or anything. Maybe I should analysis my mail at my old abode and see if I’ve won chargeless Starbucks for life! Ha ha ha!”
[he tastes his alcohol & frowns]
Him: “Mister Brad, why don’t you cascade a decaf attempt on top of this for me? It’ll be absolute then. It’s aloof a beard too sweet.”
[I cascade one decaf attempt on top of his drink]
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Me, and my bark is ample at this point: “Thanks! Accept a abundant day. Oh yeah, and HAPPY BIRTHDAY.”
The adumbration of this guy’s angry (but absolutely affectionate of brilliant) betray resonated decidedly adamantine with a lot of places that address about food. It’s important to agenda that the all-inclusive majority of places that best up the adventure advised it the way it deserved: BoingBoing, Grubstreet, BusinessInsider, PopSugar and the National Column in Toronto (among others) all fabricated it a point to say that Brad’s chump was a complete dickhead, with several of them acquainted that what he was accomplishing absolutely possibly constituted fraud. Eater absolutely took it a footfall further, contacting Starbucks directly, who issued the afterward statement:
“We are acquainted of this customer’s abusage of the Starbucks Agenda program. We are investigating this amount as our agenda affairs agreement prohibit such schemes.”
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All of these takes are fine—Eater’s in particular, aback it’s accessible the guy in catechism will face some affectionate of advise for actuality a doucheschooner, or at atomic won’t be accustomed to get abroad with it any more. Maybe I didn’t apprehend this to be the BCO adventure to booty off in added online publications (although in retrospect, I apparently should have; the internet loves account of annihilation pertaining to “menu hacks”), but these takes are absolutely reasonable, and it would be asinine of me to booty affair with any of them.
Then you accept Seventeen. All the acceptable things I aloof said about the added places that best up the story? Throw them adapted the hell out the window here. From Alyssa Fiorentino’s post:
The column went on to explain how this chump is acutely accurate about his order, which makes his cheating of the arrangement alike added annoying—but none of that matters. All you charge to apperceive is, chargeless drinks for activity is absolutely possible. And you’ll be extenuative a lot of cash.
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Think about it this way: Let’s say you dart to Starbucks adapted now and acquirement 365 one-dollar allowance cards. That will set you aback $365. However, if a alpine algid coffee costs you $2.25 per day, by the end of the year you’d be out $821.25. Follow this guy’s lead, and you’ll save over $450. (And that’s if you alone get a tall… anticipate about the venti possibilities!) Woah.
For fuck’s sake, do I charge to explain why these two paragraphs are horrible? I’m at somewhat of a accident for words, aback this is so self-evidently cheerleading sociopathic behavior. Let’s alpha and end with the actuality that the adapted acknowledgment to accession actuality abhorrent should never, anytime be “oh shit, I absolutely charge to try that!” Ever. For any reason. That absolutely should awning all accessible bases.
Seventeen’s readership—which is decidedly vast—is mostly teenagers. This is a acceptable affair in that they’re beneath acceptable than adults to accept the money to try to adapt this scam, but it’s a bad affair in that the ones that do accept the money accept the analytical thinking, controlling skills, and basal affinity of a goldfish. Teenagers are, on average, fucking idiots. The aftermost affair they charge is advance in that department.
In accession to actuality idiots, teenagers are additionally affectable as hell. Unless Starbucks absolutely deals with this affair to anticipate this array of betray in the approaching (and it looks like they ability be, acknowledge the celestial of your choice), some of them (and some adults, undoubtedly) are activity to try this. Some would accept done so behindhand of whether Seventeen actively encouraged them, because some bodies are aloof terrible, but there are others who alone bare a advance to be able to absolve it to themselves.
Moreover, it’s aloof a apparent old dick move to animate bodies to bits on aliment account workers. So maybe don’t? Yeah, I’m activity to go with don’t.
Image via mangpor2004/Shutterstock.
Contact the columnist at [email protected].
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15 internet moments in 2018 that made us scream 'NOPE'
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*unintelligible screaming* 
We're only halfway through 2018, but it already appears to be the year of loudly yelling at the internet every 20 minutes or so.
From insensitive YouTube videos and mortifying viral challenges, to disturbing makeup trends and abhorrent tweets, the online world has truly tested our patience these past six months.
SEE ALSO: Elizabeth Warren got a new puppy because everything else is bad
Here are 15 of the biggest NOPE moments the internet had to offer this year. They'll be tough to re-live for sure, but let them inspire us all to be better online contributors in the future.
1. Terrible, horrible, no good, very bad Logan Paul saga
YouTuber Logan Paul kicked off 2018 in one of the worst ways imaginable. On New Year's Eve, Paul shared a video with his 15 million subscribers that contained footage of an apparent victim of suicide he found in Japan's Aokigahara forest.
After the video received a serious amount of backlash, Paul apologized, claiming he "intended to raise awareness for suicide and suicide prevention," but in the weeks that followed the situation only grew worse.
Dear Internet, pic.twitter.com/42OCDBhiWg
— Logan Paul (@LoganPaul) January 2, 2018
A supercut of Paul's trip to Japan, which showed him severely disrespecting Japanese culture, went viral. He was dragged for an insensitive comment he left on Cardi B's Instagram, and admitted he wasn't making content with his younger fan base in mind. 
In wake of the vlog backlash, Paul did make an effort to advocate for suicide prevention by pledging to donate a total of $1 million to various suicide prevention organizations, but that didn't erase all the pain and disgust his careless video caused viewers. 
2. The painfully embarrassing Tide Pod Challenge
The year has already birthed a number of viral challenges, but none have proven to be as foolish and potentially deadly as the Tide Pod Challenge.
After teens started recording and sharing videos of themselves frying and "eating" poisonous soap-filled pouches known as Tide Pods, YouTube had to step in and take action. Tide Pods videos were pulled from the site, but the damage was done. 
Tide Pod inspired pizza, doughnuts, sushi, and shots were created, and things wound up getting so out of hand that stores had to LOCK UP THE DELICIOUS LOOKING DETERGENT. UGH! Humans sometimes, honestly! 
y’all really joked around so much that tide put their tide pods in plastic boxes...smh pic.twitter.com/Z44efALcX5
— ㅤnavid (@NavidHasan_) January 13, 2018
3. Meals cooked in a MOUTH
The first half of 2018 was also when we learned about this chef who cooks meals using only her freaking mouth. She preps turkey stuffing, steak tartare, pancakes, and even a smoothie using her teeth and saliva, then uploads the videos to YouTube. We don't care if it's "performance art," it's A LOT to comprehend, so can we get a NOPE over here? 
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4. When someone tried to make teeth nails a thing
Some bizarre beauty trends have popped up in 2018, but teeth nails took things way too far.
Instagram user @nail_sunny cursed feeds everywhere by sharing a video of regular old nails being transformed to resemble human teeth. The cringeworthy footage was set to Drake's "God's Plan," and IDK about you but I prefer the original music video a whole lot more.
A post shared by Nail Sunny Loves FIFA 2018 (@nail_sunny) on May 8, 2018 at 9:07am PDT
5. Kanye West's tumultuous Twitter return
In 2018, Kanye West decided it was time to tweet again and fans had NO idea what they were in for.
Since April 13, 2018, when Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey welcomed the rapper back to the platform, Kanye has taken his 28 million followers on a dramatic roller coaster filled with tattoo designs, fashion photo shoots, the deepest of musings, album release dates, controversial comments on slavery, and a whole lot of love for Donald Trump.
pic.twitter.com/YyUw0mCKov
— KANYE WEST (@kanyewest) April 25, 2018
Watching Kanye's feed over the past few months has truly been exhausting, even for his IRL friends.
6. Pelican takeover
A real-life horror film was shot at the 2018 Pepperdine University graduation when very large pelicans swarmed the ceremony and wreaked havoc on attendees.
Things got so intense that security had to step in, and, after all their intruding, the birds didn't even get diplomas.
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7. Elon Musk hating on journalists
Grimes' boyfriend gave President Trump a rest and decided to share his own thoughts about the media via Twitter. Musk announced he plans to create "a media credibility rating site" that will allow the public to review the truth of individual articles, journalists, editors, and publications.
Going to create a site where the public can rate the core truth of any article & track the credibility score over time of each journalist, editor & publication. Thinking of calling it Pravda …
— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) May 23, 2018
Despite the fact that his girlfriend's mom is a journalist, Musk carried on with his anti-media rant, explaining his belief that the journalist's lack of credibility is the reason Trump was elected in the first place. 🙃
8. The Nukebook
Japanese graphic designer Shusaku Takaoka shared a horrifying recreation of the iconic image from The Notebook that will probably ruin your life.
Normally, the photo from the romantic film, based off a Nicholas Sparks novel, shows stars Ryan Gosling and Rachel McAdams embracing in the rain. But Takaoka replaced the actors with Donald Trump and Kim Jong-un to give the internet the following painful sight.
A post shared by shusaku takaoka (@shusaku1977) on Jun 12, 2018 at 6:50pm PDT
2018, please be nicer to us!
9. BBC imagining the "perfect body"
In a terrifying video shared by BBC, anatomist Alice Roberts examined an advanced model of the perfect human body. It had enlarged eyes and ears, a chimp's lower back, emu legs, a breast-less chest, the heart of a dog, and lungs of a swan. And oh yeah, did we forget to mention A BABY POPPING OUT OF A MARSUPIAL POUCH? NOPE!
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10. The IHOb hype
The International House of Pancakes (aka IHOP) really tested everyone's patience in 2018. The chain  restaurant, best known for its breakfast food, decided to unleash a long, drawn out, and very secretive marketing campaign in which it would re-brand from IHOP to IHOb.
Mashable figured out the "b" stood for burgers before the big announcement, but IHOP made everyone wait an entire week before officially revealing the burger news. So extra.
For 60 pancakin’ years, we’ve been IHOP. Now, we’re flippin’ our name to IHOb. Find out what it could b on 6.11.18. #IHOb pic.twitter.com/evSxKV3QmT
— IHOb (@IHOb) June 4, 2018
11. Millie Bobby Brown leaving Twitter
Twitter hit an especially low point when Stranger Things star Millie Bobby Brown left the platform in June after becoming the subject of a hateful meme.  
It all started when the hashtag #TakeDownMillieBobbyBrown — which was started in 2017 by the now suspended Twitter user @KelsFiona — resurfaced online. In response, people began sharing false stories, negative memes, and fake Snapchat photos claiming that Millie is homophobic. 
i think it’s time i share my #TakeDownMillieBobbyBrown story... i was at my local starbucks, and milky boobie brown comes in so i asked her for a picture. then she PEES in my drink! then she called me a “fat chicken dyke” and put a straw in my nose! i’ve never been so ashamed.
— Laurane :) (@Laurie________) June 5, 2018
After the 14-year-old anti-bullying advocate — yes, she has an entire side Twitter account dedicated to spreading love and kindness — endured a substantial amount of trolling she deactivated her account. How are those anti-harassment plans coming, @Jack?
12. BBQ Becky, Permit Patty, and Pool Patrol Paula
Meme's don't always stem from lighthearted events, and 2018 has proved that with BBQ Becky, Permit Patty, and Pool Patrol Paula. 
In May, an Oakland woman named Jennifer Schulte called the police on two black men who she believed were grilling in a park without a permit. After a video, which captured the woman's interaction with the men and phone call to the police went viral, Twitter users slammed her for racial profiling and she came to be known by meme-makers as "BBQ Becky." 
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A month later, Alison Ettel called the police on an 8-year-old girl for selling water on a sidewalk. Ettel was also transformed into a meme, dubbed "Permit Patty," and her harsh actions against a child of color were condemned by many.
We gotta new meme tho y'all #PermitPatty pic.twitter.com/DW3TFjRzn4
— Racist Raj 🌹 (@_ethiopiangold) June 23, 2018
Less than a week later, a third white woman — 38-year-old Stephanie Sebby-Strempel (now known to the internet as "Pool Patrol Paula") — was charged with assaulting a 15-year-old black boy at a public pool after reportedly yelling racial slurs. A video showing part of the confrontation was posted to Facebook, and the #PoolPatrolPaula hashtag was started to raise awareness of her unacceptable behavior.
In light of this utterly disappointing trend, Mashable created a list of 5 things white people can do before calling the cops on a black person. Please read it.
13. Roseanne's racist remarks
In June, actress and comedian Roseanne Barr tweeted a racist remark about President Obama's former black female advisor, Valerie Jarrett.
Barr's tweet received a serious amount of backlash. In response, the actress deleted the tweet, claimed she was just joking, and then tried to blame Ambien for her actions. Ultimately, the tweet led to her show being cancelled, her agent dropping her, and a her taking a short leave of absence from the social media platform.
14. Marco Rubio complaining about the fucking "F-word"
After a shooting at the Capital Gazette left five dead, staff writer Selene San Felice appeared on CNN where she said the following: "I'm going to need more than a couple days of news coverage and some thoughts and prayers, because it's our whole lives have been shattered. And so thanks for your prayers, but I couldn't give a fuck about them if there's nothing else."
Instead of tweeting support for the press, Marco Rubio decided to rage tweet about people using the f-word a little too freely.
Sign of our times... the F word is now routinely used in news stories, tweets etc It’s not even F*** anymore. Who made that decision???
— Marco Rubio (@marcorubio) June 29, 2018
"Sign of our times... the F word is now routinely used in news stories, tweets etc It’s not even F*** anymore.  Who made that decision???" Rubio tweeted on June 29.
Always nice to see a man who has his fucking priorities straight. Isn't it?
15. A whole lot of Donald Trump
In the first half of 2018 Donald Trump has had a LOT of not so great moments online.
Early in the year "girther" memes examining Trump's physique spread after the White House announced he's 6 feet, three inches tall, and weighs 239 pounds. There was that time he tried to convince everyone he's a "genius," tweeted incorrect facts, attempted to host the failed Fake News Awards, insulted many — including but certainly not limited to Jay-Z, Alec Baldwin, and Maxine Waters.
Crazy Maxine Waters, said by some to be one of the most corrupt people in politics, is rapidly becoming, together with Nancy Pelosi, the FACE of the Democrat Party. Her ranting and raving, even referring to herself as a wounded animal, will make people flee the Democrats!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 3, 2018
Not to mention the mess of typos and deleted tweets the president's Twitter followers have had to endure.
So yeah, as you can see the internet is occasionally a digital portal to hell. But the online world hasn't been all bad this year. Check out 16 of the best internet moments in 2018 to restore your faith in humanity.
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Telling myself “Don’t...”
“Proper don’t!”, as the boy would frequently tell me, when he saw that particular glint in my eyes, or our peculiarly aligned-minds would throw up something totally inappropriate at the same time. The number of times we finish each other’s sentences, especially when they’re complete nonsense is amusing, if slightly concerning. 
I told myself to stay off Fakebook yesterday, but I’m incredibly bad at doing what I’m told. Fuck it, I’m just incredibly bad in general. You know my general level of arsehole/twat/Terrible Bastard? I’m worse on my birthday. Ludicrous, because my general standpoint is that it’s just another day, but every year, without fail, I get myself wound up, because other people think birthdays are a ‘thing’. OK, I’m also probably premenstrual, and the boy was going back to uni yesterday, so I was additionally moody, AND it was a birthday other people think of as a big one, if I didn’t have stuff to do, I would have gone and spent the day in the shed, or the loft, or something. (I have, historically, deactivated Fakebook around my birthday, but I’ve forgotten the password, and can’t be arsed to change it, because my Fakebook is linked to an email account I don’t use, and I’ve forgotten the password to THAT as well, for fuck’s sake, I’m difficult.)
*Ping* “Have a great day!” (Fuck off.)
*Ping* “Happy Birthday, hope it’s fantastic!” (Fuck OFF.)
*Ping* (I’m not even looking. Oh, that was a text, I’d better look. It’s my mobile provider telling me my allowances have been refreshed.)
I know I’m in the minority, but I really don’t give a shit about birthdays, and other-people’s insistence that I should be ‘enjoying’ this particular date-of-little-relevance just tips my shit. “Hope you get lots of nice presents!” (FUCK OFF, I’m 40, not 4.) A couple of years ago I had a “Hope your fella is spoiling you rotten!”, which absolutely tipped my shit, because that was the year he’d bought me heated motorcycle under-garments, in the wrong size. Fakebook don’t get me, and most of the time I do try to play nice, which probably makes it worse, because I actually am a nasty cunt, and NOT typing the first-response to some of the drivel they post lulls them into a false sense of security.
I’m horrible, accept that, and move on. I can be vile, disgusting, inappropriate and abhorrent without blinking or pausing for breath. Aside from being able to produce all manner of gubbins from my bag or pockets, I’m the opposite of Mary Poppins, there isn’t a ‘nice’ bone in my body, I’m fucking awful, but I’m really good at it. I’m also really good at mostly-only being awful in safe settings, I’m not vulgar in open-public-spaces, and I don’t say ‘fuck’ on the bus. Factor in that the most significant of my brain damage is frontal-lobe, and that takes some managing.  
The boy was anxious, either about going back to uni, spending the weekend with his Dad, or leaving me here on my own. I didn’t have the emotional capacity to explore, or help in any meaningful way, but I do try desperately not to be unkind to him. He kept asking me if I wanted money to buy wine, and I kept saying ‘No.’, even though I now have pretty-much no money until payday. He kept trying to give me things. OK, one of the things was a dead spider, and another was a packet of toffees I’d given him for Christmas. (It’s fine, I’ll wrap them back up for HIS birthday.)
The ex brought me gin, which was overwhelming in the extreme, because last year was his 50th birthday, and he spent it alone in the cat-flat, the second day of our separation.
So, I told myself to leave Fakebook alone for the day, and continued on my merry way around the housework, taking photos of rubbish, and muck, and the disgusting quantity of boy-hair I pulled out of the bath plug-hole, just in case some Fakebook knobhead decided to push my buttons with “Are you doing anything nice for your birthday?” I’m evil, I may have mentioned this already. The ‘plan’, such as it was, was to make some semblance of sense of the TIP the boy had left his bedroom in so it didn’t make my eyes go twitchy every time I walked past it. Then I was going to have a bath. (Yes, I do close the door, but I still ‘know’ what’s behind it, he’d been here a month, and hadn’t thought to Hoover etc.) He’d left a bastard textbook (Ooh, now, maybe I could WRITE that?) so I Fakebook-messaged him to ask Granddad to call to pick it up if he needed it. No response, because the ex’s wifi is worse than mine, I had to text-message the ex. The in-laws were going to call for the book ‘later’. IT’S MY FUCKING BIRTHDAY, I JUST WANT A HOT BATH AFTER SPENDING MOST OF THE DAY CLEANING! 
The in-laws came, and hovered on the doormat, and asked if I’d had my ‘tests done’ yet. Christ, it’s fucking difficult to explain to them that I have brain injuries, that I still look like ‘me’, but I’m massively altered from the way I remember being. “Are they still paying you, though?” (What’s that got to do with you?) “Yes, they’re still paying me, and when that runs out, I can always start flashing my ankles, can’t I?” They didn’t quite know what to make of that, I think they’ve had enough time away from me to forget the whole “Is she joking, or does she mean that?” thing. 
I eventually had my bath, and nothing fell off. (I’m 40 now, bits might start falling off.) I realised that, even though Fakebook KNOW I’m rude, a couple of them know where I live, and might come round to check I hadn’t put my head in the oven, as I wasn’t responding to the “Happy Birthday!” posts. I poured a gin, and wrote a LOVELY ‘thank you’ post, referencing that it was ‘AMAZING’ that I was 40, being born in 1977, and it now being 2017, and I couldn’t ‘BELIEVE’ that 40 came after 39 etc. I’m horrible, I’ve probably mentioned that. I also added that I’d had a ‘great’ day, cleaning the floor, and pulling a HUGE lump of hair out of the plug-hole, which I’d then considered knitting into a cat. I pointed out that I’m obnoxious, obstinate, and sarcastic, and had no intention of changing, just in case anyone got huffy at me for not being overjoyed that they’d clicked a few characters into a box when they got the Fakebook automated birthday reminder.  
I shouldn’t have done it, because, for a while, the people who hadn’t already wished me ‘Happy Birthday’, due to either forgetting I existed, or knowing I’m an odious wretch who doesn’t really do ‘Happy’ decided to wish me ‘Happy Birthday!’, like they hadn’t even read the post about me not being bothered about birthdays, and having spent most of the day cleaning... Or they had, and were being twatty, you can’t out-twat THIS twat. 
There you go, I told myself not to go on Fakebook, then did it anyway, this whole daft blog has been an attempt NOT to continue an argument on the comments section of a newspaper. Don’t, me, proper don’t. 
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