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ultramarine-spirit Ā· 2 years ago
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In the novel, Athy's debut dress is described as white with long sleeves and the skirts made it look like a rose (? I think she was also wearing rubies but I don't remember very well anymore
Don't you have reference photos of what the dress was like? The translation I read is very strange lol
Athy's debutante dress is described to be pretty different in the novel! It was a pure white dress, that seemed to bloom like a flower at the bottom. It also had embedded jewelry and a tulle ribbon tied around the waist, and it had sleeves, it wasnā€™t sleeveless like the manhwa's. So the translation you read looks accurate. Here is @lithi 's complete translation of how the dress looked like!
I don't have any reference pictures of that dress specifically, sorry. And as far as I know, there's no novel-accurate fanart of the debutante. We'll have to use our imagination.
The thing about debutante balls that... no manhwa seems to get right is that, they weren't just fancy balls to introduce noble girls to high society. They were that in part, yes, but most importantly, they had the purpose of serve as the occasion for young girls of marriageable age (for the time period) to find a husband.
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So the balls had a pretty strict dress-code. All debutantes had to wear white (though shades of ivory and pink were acceptable), the dresses were strictly floor-length and with a long train, though the sleeves were short. Long white gloves were also very common. The hair had to be done in an up-do with a veil attached to it, decorated with three ostrich feathers. As for jewelry, pearls were the more common option.
Some details could change depending on the time period, but those were the basics. So no colorful gowns, loose hair, short dresses or stuff like that.
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Totally different vibes, even though that debutante dress is pretty modern. But it looks... like a wedding dress.
I was surprised to see that the novel's debutante was actually pretty historically accurate. My guess is that Spoon felt the novel's dress was too bridal, so she changed it to the iconic dress we all know (I've seen people say it feels too "homecoming", teenager ball, but debutantes were kind of just that lol). The part about the dress resembling a blooming rose was kept, but Spoon added the pink details, flowers and patterns, shortened the length and made the dress sleeveless (and gave Athy a tiara! Apparently only married women could wore those at debutantes in real life).
I quite like it. I think the choice was also to better reflect Athy's fashion sense and make her stand out compared to the other debutantes. Athy's dresses are always lovely and elegant, but she uses way more colors, patterns, short sleeves and hems compared to the rest of the girls. I think it suits her free spirit!
And yeah, it would have been kind of weird to see all the girls dressed as brides in the debutante lmfao...
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gingermintpepper Ā· 4 months ago
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ā€œYour hairā€™s gotten longer.ā€Ā 
Itā€™s conscious effort that keeps him from tucking the strands behind his ear, from taking the knife at his hip and shearing it all off. He keeps his stance focused, attentive, thereā€™s little else he can do when heā€™s taken so completely after his mother when it comes to his hair. His father scratches his chin, the clouds of his beard snaking about his finger like mist parting for mountain-peaks. Aresā€™ chin is still child-smooth. He can feel the tickle of his over-long fringe against his soft jaw. Thereā€™s no heart in his chest, but still he feels as though a pulse is lodged in his throat.Ā 
Father sighs, put-upon, disappointed, and Ares feels a slight tremor start in his calves from holding himself so tense. ā€œWell done, Ares. Go clean yourself up and get some rest. Phoebus will want to look you over later.ā€Ā 
He should be ecstatic to be praised by his father. Over-the-moon with joy. There should be pride emanating from every pore of his body, the blood on his skin should be sweeter than ambrosia.Ā 
Instead, he bows, manages a soft ā€˜thank you, Fatherā€™ around the lump in his throat and immediately flees the room. A mild ā€˜make sure to trim your hairā€™ hits the back of his head like a spear through the skull. He almost wishes the great door had slammed on his foot so he would have reason to feel this horrid in his retreat.Ā Ā 
Phoebus Apollo is waiting for him in his infirmary.Ā 
Heā€™s gilded as ever, gold from crown to heel. Perfect like the statues they carve of him in his temples. He has a smile for Ares when he sees him, a crinkle at the edges of his pretty eyes from the weight of his joy. Ares is waiting to see the crack in the marble, to see if thatā€™s the chip thatā€™ll reveal his fangs.
ā€œBrother,ā€ he greets, and his voice is warm - like the arms that embrace him, his voice is so warm, ā€œWelcome back. Iā€™ve heard youā€™ve done well.ā€Ā Ā 
Thereā€™s a tremble in Aresā€™ fingers he hadnā€™t noticed before. Strain from carrying his sword for so many days, a throb from wounds he hadnā€™t noticed heā€™d accrued. ā€œHeard? Thereā€™s already gossip?ā€Ā 
Phoebus blinks, disarming, demure, coquettish, ā€œBut of course,ā€ and Phoebusā€™ voice is honey to Aresā€™ gravel, the juxtaposition is grating on his skin, ā€œItā€™s Olympus. The gossip began long before you set your course.ā€ Those warm hands lead him further into the room, bodily sits him on the chaise, pulls his helmet from his head. Itā€™s all one, unbroken motion, ā€œItā€™s summer alas, so I could not watch your war myself, but I hear it was quite the decisive victory.ā€Ā 
A thousand thoughts run on horseback through his mind then.Ā 
Did Father overhear some terrible slander that pre-emptively disappointed him? Was Aresā€™ victory merely a rumour, a bet his father hadnā€™t bothered to take? Was the gossip more enticing than the stark truth? That Ares wasnā€™t some child toddling about in the shadow of his sister, that his sword and spear werenā€™t merely for show - heā€™d think such a thing would warrant celebration. Not -
ā€œOh my,ā€ Phoebus is in front of him, pleasant warmth more sticky heat with how close heā€™s pressed himself into Aresā€™ space. From this angle, Ares can see the multi-coloured flecks of his eyes, like shards of golden glass suspended in ichor. From this angle, with his hand so gently holding his hair, were Ares to blink too hard, heā€™d swear Phoebus looked just like his mother. ā€œYour hairā€™s grown long again.ā€Ā 
He pushes Phoebus off with such force that he bangs into the wall. Itā€™s Phoebus, it wonā€™t make even the impression of a scratch on him, but Ares wishes it would. Wishes heā€™d hit his shoulder or crack his neck or hit his head just hard enough for all that perfect, gilded gold to bleed.Ā 
ā€œIā€™m only here for you to heal me,ā€ the tremble in his hand extends to his shoulder now. He flexes and unflexes his palm. Gods what he would give to just have a sword - ā€œDonā€™t waste time with the pleasant-work.ā€Ā 
Phoebus huffs, adjusts the fit of his himation, ā€œ...Only because weā€™re meant to be celebrating your victory.ā€ He crosses the room in two great strides, his hair a swirling tempest behind him as he gathers his poultices and wraps. ā€œThe only reason Iā€™ll not throw you from the window is because we are meant to be celebrating your victory.ā€Ā Ā 
Thereā€™s not enough acid in his tone for this to truly be a fight. Aresā€™ jaw clenches, he bites out a terse, ā€œHow benevolent.ā€Ā 
ā€œArenā€™t I?ā€ Heā€™s got nectar and his sutures in hand, that focused look falling upon his face when he switches from overbearing busybody to Paeon of the Gods. ā€œNow strip unfaltering Ares, let us see the measure of damage done to your indomitable flesh.ā€Ā 
(Somewhere between the fifth set of stitches and the gentle frown that crosses Phoebusā€™ face when he notices the persistent tremble in his fingers, Ares pins his eyes to the far wall and asks, ā€œWhat does it mean when Father says ā€˜well doneā€™?ā€Ā 
Any other sibling would mock before they gave a true response. Any other sibling would laugh and dismiss it, would say that praise is praise and any lingering ill feeling is just the worst of the war still fogging his mind. Phoebus does not answer immediately. He doesnā€™t make a single sound. The question settles like fetid water between them, unignorable, the scent right there on the tip of the tongue yet firmly unacknowledged. Ares closes his eyes and tries again to settle his squirming so he does not interfere with Phoebusā€™ work.Ā  The metallic snip of scissors cutting thread breaks the silence. Phoebus bids him to sit up and slides his warm palms up his back until his fingers tangle gently in the ends of his hair. He twists the dark red strands until heā€™s gathered it all into a neat handful, holding it loosely as he switches his scissors for his shearing blade. ā€œYou should know it was not praise,ā€ Phoebus says softly. The first of Ares cut hairs fall like viscera from his head. Phoebus treats each cutting with the sacredness of a blood-sacrifice. If he focused on the moment of tension right before the blade cuts though, Ares thinks he can imagine the agony of his sisterā€™s sacred birth. ā€œIt is acknowledgement. Father thinks youā€™ve done well so he says ā€˜well doneā€™.ā€
Gently, Phoebus releases him. Ruffles his head so all the extra hairs fall like red rain to the floor. Ares runs his fingers through the ends now curling against his ear. ā€œHas he ever told you ā€˜well doneā€™?ā€Ā 
A laugh, warm and gilded, ā€œNo, and it would not make you feel better if he had.ā€Ā 
Ares swallows down a thousand different questions. Phoebus wouldnā€™t answer them, heā€™s infuriating like that. Instead, he clenches his teeth, the phantom of Fatherā€™s dizzying tangle of grey cloud-hairs persistent in the corner of his eyes. ā€œCut it shorter.ā€
Phoebus doesnā€™t protest. He never seems to say a word when it really matters.)
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lazycranberrydoodles Ā· 1 year ago
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its prosecutor jiang wanyin!!!! oh fuck!!! / gifs + au rambling below the cut / follow for more mdzs x aa crossover stuff :3
all the gifs i made (poses traced off franziska):
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hes so similar to franziska when you think about it. theyre both deeply insecure tsundere adoptive younger sibling of successful main characters. who carry whips. something something edgeworth choosing death and wwx actually dying also
his share code is HWFEFF if you wanna use him in a trial! you can't share backgrounds but heres the scenery from the donghua i used.
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the easiest way to put custom stuff into objection.lol is to send it in discord and then use the link from opening it in your browser :)
a whole lot of AU stuff
the art im making is for if mdzs was an ace attorney game, playing from WWX's POV to solve various mysteries/cases over the course of the plot. so this scene would be from turnabout goddess, which would loosely cover the dafan mountain mystery.
cases include:
Turnabout Revenge (Mo Manor, quick introductory first case)
Turnabout Goddess (Dafan mountain, the good times flashback)
Turnabout Saber (the man-eating castle (omg hiii nhs))
The Blind Turnabout (Yi City arc)
Turnabout Deviation (the Koi Tower conference, Empathy on NMJ ala turnabout memories or beginnings. opening cutscene is his qi deviation)
The Blood-Soaked Turnabout (second Burial Mounds siege, flashbacks: Xuanwu, Sunshot, YLLZ, Nightless City massacre)
Turnabout Lotus Seeds (testimony about JGY, tree scene, golden core reveal, bathtub scene. opening cutscene could be JGS' death but that would make it canon rather than ambiguous)
Turnabout Confession (Guanyin temple)
the problem with splitting novel!mdzs into turnabouts is that flashbacks are a huge chunk of the book but they don't have mysteries/ cases to solve so they've gotta be lumped together with present day stuff. imo? many of the flashbacks would likely have to be abridged so they could be retold ala DL-6, SL-9, or the fourth grade incident, where characters talk about it over some pieces of art. this is really difficult when theres a metric ton of unspoken, complex, and signifcant history between every character lmao
there's not as much of a problem with the cql timeline but i have not finished it. so.
the opening cutscenes in ace attorney always show the murder and/or the murderer plotting. the first cutscene of the game would be MXY summoning WWX, muttering about getting revenge on his family (it would also be good for him to mention the yllz being dead because that's how the novel starts.) cut to WWX's POV as he wakes up covered in blood and the investigation segment begins.
for investigations of monsters (goddess, saber, etc) the cutscene would be a scene of some poor throwaway cultivator getting their shit wrecked.
it would be cool to make a breakdown for JGY but again I need to review that scene cause I don't know who I'd base him on. maybe Vasquez or Dahlia.
tell me your thoughts!! i'm working off of a mdzs summary/ skimming the novel because i don't remember it too well so if i get anything wrong please yell at me
Jin Ling's sprites & Nie Huaisang's sprites / masterpost
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bloggingboutburgers Ā· 4 months ago
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i hope that i'm not making any terrible cultural assumptions here, but i'm curious about your experiences as aro/ace in france in particular. the states are often very culturally conservative but especially when it comes to sex in particular. i don't know if it's just an incorrect cultural assumption on our part but the french are stereotyped as being a lot more open and in your face (?) about sex. is that true? does it make it harder for you to deal with people pushing the expectation of sex on you?
OK, so, I'm not sure I can 100% answer this one accurately because... Well, I've never properly LIVED in the States, only visited for a while each time, so I don't have a proper point of reference.
What I WILL say though is that most of our modern culture comes from us from the US. Movies, series, musicals, songs, social media conversations and stuff... And those ABSOLUTELY push the expectation of sex on people regardless of how conservative the States probably are on a daily basis.
I think it's like... The way I experience it, it kinda feels like the large majority of people regardless of the country or culture ARE kinda obsessed with sex anyway, so it's more about how overtly it's admitted in society or not. French people WILL definitely bring up sex in random conversations including at work or with people they've just literally met from the first time. (Depends on personality of course but... Yeah.) But I dunno. Maybe people in the US do that too. In terms of what I see in the exported culture though? The omnipresence of sex is definitely still felt. Heck, look at fandoms that are for a big part comprised of US people and how quickly they'll gravitate to shipping and sexual shipping or thirsting for a character too. That's definitely not just a thing I've observed in France.
The main difference I see is that most conversations of this type seem to start in the US and my country tends to "behind" in lots of ways, so it's definitely harder to talk about how you're an asexual in France still, at least I'd assume. Here we're still at the point where the odd mainstream media will write an article introducing asexuality as a revolutionary concept in a "can you believe this exists?" and "šŸ«“šŸ¦‹ is this a new trend?" kinda way. It's... A bit embarrassing, though it's way better than nothing at this point, progress is progress.
PS: The obsession with romance kinda seems to be everywhere in both cultures, so that at least doesn't make much of a difference. Except that I guess France being stereotyped as "the country of love" (read: ROMANTIC love ONLY) doesn't really help at all but meh.
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solar-halos Ā· 3 months ago
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trick or treat šŸ§”
hi! i think u can tell a lot about someone by their fav candies so iā€™m gonna ramble a bit about odestaā€™s fav treats
finnick likes stuff that lingers, like jolly ranchers and gummy bears. heā€™ll also indulge in sour skittles
annie likes straight chocolatey things, like hershey kisses and kit kats. she also loves pop rocks
they both love sour patch kids, but theyā€™ll give away jelly beans. not bc they donā€™t like the taste but bc the variety overwhelms the both of them
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aro-culture-is Ā· 2 years ago
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Aro culture is going to spencers and seeing only ace pride merch and no aro pride merch
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#piperrose#aro culture is#aro#aromantic#actually aro#actually aromantic#ask#mod phoenix#i mean.#to be entirely fair: 1) spencer's known to steal art designs from fan artists and such online via predatory sites#2) online art tends to forget us :/#3) to be totally honest a lot of places go like 'oh these are demographically the Major Identities so let's have 5 options total'#or smth like that#and that's like. middle manager capitalists with zero care about real ppl types placing those limits#i'm honestly surprised they even got around to including ace folks tbh#usually those sorts of high-predatory mall-goth types of stores (hot topic / spencers / lunchbox) are uh. very very very focused on like.#maximizing profits at the expense of absolutely zero fucks given about real ppl along the way#knowing that the edgy teen demographics most interested in them *tend* to not have a lot of money + want to be ~counter culture~#they find the cheapest way to make a buck on marginalized folks in a very rainbow capitalism way#also for the lucky 10k: those stores have all been implicated in the last 2 decades of repeatedly and constantly stealing art from poor#online artists via various sites like deviantArt#via little secret TOS conditions around those sites being able to sell your work by proxy without exception#unsure if that's still common knowledge but a decade ago it was like. every tenth post on my dashboard once a year when someone a little#bit bigger than average on social media had their art stolen yet again by these corps
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real-fire-emblem-takes Ā· 6 months ago
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whenever I hear somebody complain about open reclassing all I can think of is that one doom tweet:
ā€œYou control what buttons you press.ā€
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madame-mongoose Ā· 2 years ago
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I think its safe to say my current hyperfixation is dinosaurs lol
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todayisafridaynight Ā· 1 year ago
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ohhhh my god im going to fucking throw up thinking again about the scene where sawashiro almost lopping off ichi's pinky parallels the scene from earlier where arakawa's mom threatens him with scissors
#snap chats#IM GOING TO BE FUCKING SICK !!!!!!!!!#i havent mentioned it before. or if i did its been A Hot Minute but god i think of it a lot#sorry i was just having my morning Arakawa Family In Retrospect thinking and im going to throw up#AND IT WAS OVER MONEY TOO. and the topic of insufficient income was brought up.. fuuuuccckk YOOOOU#triggering myself rewatching the scenes just to validate my points and im going to be even MORE sick#its the way both ichi/arakawa glare at sawashiro/his mother and then getting reprimanded for it. via sharp implement#and the way arakawa interrupts sawashiro and ichi like how his dad had to step in between him and his mom Shut UP#jesus. arakawa wasnt even confrontational bout it like that either bro just walked in on it#his life is a flat circle And What If. I Threw Up.#i thought of translatin this concept via a comic buuuuuttttt </3 no time </3#or energy tbh#im tempted to at the very least make comparative gif sets for these scenes... its so important i point them out....#anyways wow !!!! i love the arakawa family !!!!!!! youre all fucked !!!!!! <- crying#i love the arakawa family because it's so easy to see each member as a protagonist of their own stories#which No Duh Everyones A Protagonist In A Way but it's just espsecially easy to dig into the arakawas' perspectives and feelings#theyre ALL so interesting in how they think and react and the possibility of how theyre thinking and feeling in situations#like im so invested to want to know their perspectives because there's always extra layers to them and its fascinating..#the arakawas are just so intertwined .....
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dreampearls Ā· 1 year ago
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for all that i might compare colleis writing to scara with scara working as a weird sort of mirror world alternate look into collei if she wasnt smited by misogynistic writing decisions. scaras writing is not all that good either
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culmaer-sideblog Ā· 5 months ago
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please forgive me, but I need to complain and over-share or my brain is going to explode please feel free to ignore
#I'm not doing well.#the last two places I worked (in a tourism-adjacent sector) closed. broadly speaking due to post-lockdown financial issues#for the past year at my current job I've been earning less than half what I used to. this was the only offer I got at the time and#I haven't found anything better since. this is not sustainable I'm barely making it each month...#I live with my parents and cancelled my health insurance I don't know how else to reduce my budget. it's depressing tbh#the solution is obviously to find a better job but that's just not happening and I'm beginning to feel discouraged.#I hate being negative it's a very unattractive character trait but I just feel myself slipping and spiraling#I know I should be taking short courses or volunteering to boost my cv but like when ! and how !#I can't afford to work less but I get home at 20h so even evening courses are tricky. I work every other saturday too so weekends are out#and like I do need to rest at some point you can't be depressed and burnt out that's a terrible combo#was looking at a dtp/typesetting short course and 1) I'll need a new computer that can actually run design programs#and 2) the course itself is like 2 month's salaries which I cannot realistically save right now#and yet I'm still ''over-qualified'' for entry level positions because I went to uni. well maybe that's just a polite excuse#because as interesting as my humanities degrees were they didn't equip me with any practical or marketable skills#besides being good at reading and writing. but AI can do that for free now so that's not helpful#I always thought I was reasonably intelligent but I cannot solve this puzzle. there must be a creative solution that I'm missing#but i feel so stuck and trapped#and at least once a week some poor soul stumbles in to the office practically begging for a job so I feel bad for complaining#a little truly is better than nothing#but thank god we elected more pro-business capitalists into government that really is going to be great for us workers (sarcasm)#also I should acknowledge#I am getting some dƩjƠ vu. I feel like I've vented about this topic before#the difference is. back then it was a potential concern. now the concern has materialised into reality and rendered the situation desperate
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libraryleopard Ā· 2 years ago
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Adult romance novel
Second-chance romance about two authors (one of literary fiction, one of paranormal romance) who spent a week in love as teenagers before they were torn apart until they reunite twenty years later and must confront that theyā€™ve been unable to forget each other in the intervening yearsā€“and may have a chance for a real future together now
Complicated romance with a real connection at the heart and equally real barriers to happiness the two protagonists must confront
Explores addiction, trauma, and living with an invisible disability (chronic migraines)
Black main characters
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yukipri Ā· 1 year ago
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Ah ok cause I was watching a video bout the gannets who can swim by basically diving from quite far up and then use that momentum and their webbed feet to swim . My idea was that the clones would dive from high up and then once there in the water use perhaps a modified jetpack or a water intake machine that sucks in water and then shoots it out to propel them at high speeds . And then use the wings as sort of steering controls and even use it to swim by kinda flapping them to propel them forward and then tucking it in to reduce drag
(follow up regarding a Take Flight winged clones AU ask)
Mm I guess? But the thing with most diving bird species is, usually they dive once for a pinpoint targeted prey that they identify from above. Then they have to go back up, mostly useless during the ascent, and have to get in the air again to gain the altitude needed for another attack. It would not work for prolonged combat underwater, nor would it work in a situation where there are hostiles in the water that could prevent them from returning to the surface. They'd probably need jet-packs, like the canon clones and any non-aquatic combatants really, but again I don't think the wings would help very much ^ ^;
ā€ ā€ Send YukiPri an Ask! ā€ ā€
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musical-chick-13 Ā· 1 year ago
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It's also just so incredibly frustrating because people will take any example of a (usually male) character being horrible as some sort of "proof" that they're mentally ill (which, hmm, interesting that your automatic explanation for "why do they choose to treat other people horribly" is "they have a mental illness that just Makes Them Act Like That"), but there is no kind of nuanced or critical discussion of media that ACTUALLY (for ill or for good) tries to depict mental illness, and you try to recommend media that handles it well (that might even be good for other, completely unrelated reasons!!) and people just ignore you.
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red-eft Ā· 1 year ago
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good god i love writing research papers. at first it kinda sucks but the moment i find usable sources for the topic i go wild with it and it's the best thing ever
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asinglesock Ā· 1 year ago
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I am actually feeling more optimistic about school than I have in several weeks. I'm thankful for that.
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