#this could be shippy and non-shippy imo i have no opinion either way I just thought this fit well / is pretty funny XD

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003 for adora and 002 for Catradora '3'

002 | Catradora

When I started shipping them: The Promise.

My thoughts: Obviously this is a very popular ship, and for good reason. These two have spent most of their lives together, helping and relying on each other. They think about each other all the time, even as bitter enemies. Of all the ships that are not canon as of S4, this is the one I think is most likely to become canon in S5. Even the creators like it. But even if the romance doesn't become canon, there is going to be a positive resolution to their relationship one way or another.

What makes me happy about them: There's plenty of material to work with. You can interpret just about any of their interactions as shippy... even if some would be rather dark.

What makes me sad about them: They hurt each other so much. Adora does it unintentionally, then Catra does it intentionally, and it's nothing but terrible communication skills all around. What really gets me is neither of them seems to understand the extent of the other's trauma. Adora clearly knows what Shadow Weaver did to Catra when they were kids, but SW also told Adora it was her responsibility to keep Catra in line, thus making Adora feel that not only was Catra's punishment deserved, but that she's the one who let it happen. She doesn't grasp that it was abuse, only that it was painful and it was her fault for not controlling Catra well enough. Meanwhile, Catra resents Adora's golden child status and doesn't seem to grasp the gravity of the mental abuse she suffered, even thinking she enjoyed being the favorite. I think if either of them thought about it for awhile they'd realize they're both victims and they both need compassion and understanding, but it's hard to stop and think when you're on opposite sides of a war.

Things done in fanfic that annoys me: I swear this happens with the popular ship in every fandom. The author first pairs Character A with a different person - usually a character the author clearly doesn't like - and makes that ship abusive, so that Character B can swoop in and save poor innocent A and prove how much better they are for A. Partly it bothers me because this trope is often a disservice to the third character, who (usually) isn't actually abusive in canon. Apart from that, if your ship requires a bad relationship to show how good it is by comparison, then it's not really that good. A good ship can stand on its own. And lastly, portraying Catra (because it is usually Catra) as innocent and helpless and in need of saving is a disservice to her. She's scrappy, she's resourceful, she's complex. Yes, she's a victim, but she's more than just that. Hell, she can be abusive too! I don't wanna see ~poor innocent Catra~, I wanna see her getting messy and angry and fighting back against her abuse like she does in canon.

Things I look for in fanfic: Earnest discussion of everything that's been broken between them, and sincere attempts to fix it. Also, acknowledge all the wrongs that Catra has done, and don't imply equivalence in the manner of "oh we both hurt each other and we're both sorry" because while it's true they've both hurt each other, one of them was much more deliberate about it and did much more harmful things. That doesn't mean Adora has to hold it against her forever, but it's not healthy to just let it slide.

My wishlist: Big dramatic reunion, lots of tears, and a giant bone-crushing hug. And this might be unpopular, but if they get together romantically, let it be after a time skip. It would be wildly unrealistic for them to jump into a romance when they were trying to kill each other not too long ago. Imo they need to work out the bad stuff, like, a lot, THEN become friends again, THEN get together, in that order.

Who I’d be comfortable them ending up with, if not each other: For Adora, Glimmer. For Catra... I wouldn't really want them to end up together long-term, but I'd be down with her dating Double Trouble if they could reconcile.

My happily ever after for them: Adora convinces Catra that she was never second best and she doesn't need to prove anything, Catra convinces Adora that she's enough on her own and doesn't need to be a big hero, and they both grow from these hardships together.

003 | Adora

How I feel about this character: I'm the sort of person who tends to pass up protagonists in favor of more interesting side characters, so I was fully prepared to be bored with Adora when I started the show... but I actually love her. Her struggles are explored in a fresh way. The trait of "always needs to save everyone and fix everything" is usually played as good and heroic, but Adora shows how it can be damaging, both to her and the people around her. And I like that it's not just a trait she was born with. We get to see how that trait is a result of mental abuse, where she was made to feel like she's responsible for everything and whatever goes wrong is her fault. But aside from the trauma, I also like how she's a total dork.

Any/all the people I ship romantically with this character: Catra, with the caveat that they need to do a lot of emotional labor to get to a point where the relationship would be healthy. Also Glimmadora is cute.

My favorite non-romantic relationship for this character: Glimmer. It's really interesting how, despite Glimmer being one of the "good guys," her behavior mirrors Catra's in many respects, and so does her friendship with Adora.

My unpopular opinion about this character: I'm glad she put her hair back up. Loose hair looks wrong on her.

One thing I wish would happen / had happened with this character in canon: Absolute mental breakdown. Let her finally break under the weight of the world, and then let her friends lift her up again.

Favorite friendship for this character: Best Friend Squad is best

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carol and michonne / caryl and richonne in s8A.

I want to focus on Carol and Michonne and not just the ships, in 8x06 and 8x07. maybe cos im more of an overall-fan or character-first fan. I got these thoughts but people seem to just wanna focus only on the ships rn. 

 But, first I wanna mention ship-related things, heh. I noticed that both Caryl and Richonne are apart in the story-s8A. Both ships had their sweet goodbye moments in s8x01. Both shippers are complaining of the lack of interactions in s8A. It just shows that it’s from the same writers-same writing style. Keep in mind that S8A and these shippy moments happened in about one or two days. It’s TWD writing style..they’re always slow paced. I’m not really into the romance part of s8A because everything seems to be about the war and charactery stuff. The characters aren’t thinking of romance at the moment. Also, this show isn’t a romance-drama type of show. So, when those lil romantic moments happened in s8A, it’s cool. It kinda tells me the writers still remember the ships’ bonds. I’m also not expecting much romance stuff in s8A/s8, because based on spoilers and how the story is already going is so dark and other stuff needed to be shown first before happy romance stuff. Like Daryl dealing with his anger, character stuff. It seems like not a good time for shippy moments. I think romantic moments in s8 will be subtle, and mostly in the end of the season. Well, I hope there’s some subtle shippy moments in s8 msf. 

Ok so about Carol. During the scene between Carol and Zeke, Carol cried and said “you’re real to me.” I don’t see that scene as a romantic-like scene or only a “C/Z” scene. Sure, the C/Z shippers can take it shippy or others can see that it’s something that shows their bond getting stronger. So, I don’t see that scene romantic, but I also see it more of characters’ moment. I see it as a big moment for Carol, and Zeke individually in the story.

C: Why did you keep coming to visit me? Z: It was my duty. To make sure you were okay. C: I was okay. Why did you really? Z: You just made me feel real. Not a fiction. Real. C: You are real. To me. To the Kingdom. Those people need their king to lead them. Z: You. You could lead them. C: But it has to be you. You inspired them to build this place to believe in something. You have to help them grieve, to move on, to end this. You owe them that. Henry needs you.Those people need King Ezekiel. And if you can't be the king, then do what you do best and play the part. I have to act every day. It used to bother me. But this is who I am, and I am still standing. I just have to act like everything is normal until it is. It's what they need, and it's what you have to give them. Z: I can't.

 I don’t think Carol cried because of Zeke. I think she cried because of herself and what she had gone through. Carol and Zeke use their skill to pretend to survive and to get through the day. They have that in common. They pretend a lot. I think when they pretend, it’s like they’re hiding their true self or protecting their true self. So when Carol cried, and saying “you’re real to me” It was like she’s saying to herself. I’m real. I’m just as strong and brave as this pretend self. Or even the pretend self goes in flames and become ashes, Carol’s still here and still real and brave and all that. So, I just wanna focus on that. It’s like a great Carol character-moment of her, imo. 

About Michonne. I really like what she said to Daryl and what she learned through going out and checking out the Sanctuary. It’s a good scene and quote(and that Rosita said it too). I liked that she was just herself. She wasn’t “Rick’s gf” or because she is, she still does her own thing. 

I came here ‘cause I wanted to see things for myself. I wanted to know that things were gonna work. But you know what? I don’t get to know that. None of us do. What I do know is that things are working now. So maybe we just need to trust that things are gonna keep working, because this what we’re about to do, it’s not worth risking us.

I like this quote. It’s like when I’m anxious and overthinking and over-plan things...sometimes you just gotta ‘let it go..let it be’. I’m gonna be fine. I like that she said something like as long as it’s going. ‘keep going’ It’s kind of like “you’re trying/ still doing it is good enough’. Then she said to Daryl “it’s not worth risking us.” Makes me think like ‘don’t be hard on yourself’. Also, it’s them taking it personal and that their plan, they think it’s the best way to do it.. but their rogue plan and Rick’s plan are just plans. Either way, TF is doing something about the Negan problem, Daryl’s team don’t need to add another non-group plan. IMO, Daryl’s team is more on being personal and needing a forgiveness..arc. (sorry if this was confusing)

Anyways. What’s also interesting about Michonne’s scene was that I was wondering about her opinion on Rick’s “plan”(idk why i keep saying Rick’s plan..when it’s actually TF’s plan). Idk if I’m biased, but I thought she wasn’t against Rick and his plan. I see some comments like Michonne thinks his plan was dumb etc. But, in the show, Michonne, wanted to see if the plan was working. She didn’t say anything about disagreeing Rick’s plan. But, I agree she was like going against Rick... when she wanted to help out Daryl’s team to do their plan. It was like jump from her character but there wasn’t a big moment of her like disagreeing with Rick. So, she helped out a bit and realized to herself and from Rosita, that she doesn’t want to mess up Rick’s/TF plan. Well, I guess it just shows TF are flexible on changing and adding up Rick/TF’s original plan.  My point is that she didn’t go against Rick in this episode. I also wonder about what her thoughts on prisoners of war like what the plot had been going on in s8A, but we didn’t get to hear that. (Like Carol, Zeke..) I would like to know, because I wonder if she would agree with Rick or not, too. Rick seems to be on the side on having prisoners of war and not killing all saviors.

So yeah I liked these interesting character moments of Carol and Michonne.

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in fact fuck it take my opinions if u like

OK HERE WE GO

wander/sylvia I just don't like because they're so much better as friends and also aro wander slaps as a hc

wander/hater honestly has a lot going for it but I don't like it personally and I actually don't think it'd be that great for either of them??? I ADORE their budding friendship but I think hater needs more growth as an individual and wander doesn't need to be Solely Responsible for that. it could defo work but it's honestly not my jam idk why *shrug*

wander/peepers exists and I have no strong feelings on it but I am a bit baffled by this one. wh. why.

sylvia/hater is something I've never seen apart from technically in the date and I hope it stays that way

sylvia/peepers is probably the one on here I like more as a genuine relationship but I don't see it happening with the state of everything in season 2, it either works better with an au or like. post hypothetical season 3. probably the one I'd pick for an endgame ship, and there's some good stuff for it honestly. bi legends. thank u to ao3 for converting me a bit on it. even then their friendship is fucking amazing and I'm completely happy with it not being shippy at all

hater/peepers I actually fucking love but I don't think it would be healthy as an ACTUAL relationship. the dynamic and one sided pining from peepers tho is. very entertaining imo and fun to read/write/draw/think about but I this isn't an endgame one for me. another one where I honestly? prefer them as friends

ALSO BONUS: DOMINATOR WITH THE MAIN CAST:

her and hater - u saw how that worked out

her and wander - I'm actually so confused as to why I've seen the amount of content for this that I've seen. what????

her and peepers - I don't like them as a ship but I WOULD like them team up for a bit that would be interesting as hell and their dynamic could offer some very cool moments

her and sylvia - the lesbianisms are strong in this one but I think it would take an insane amount of non canon build up for it to work on syl's side. one of those 'if u have a 45 chapter fic on it I might be convinced because you've basically told your own story by this point' ships

.......I think my real OTP is emperor awesome x therapy

man u ever have a cast of four very shippable characters and yet you cannot commit to a single combo of them