#this argument is so dumb
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oristian · 7 months ago
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Hello there!
I have this screenshot and I want to know your thoughts on it.
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Do you think that this could possibly happen or not? (Even though I know you're a elucien and gwynriel fan)
I wrote down my thoughts on it and it's chilling in my drafts until I post in the morning, ha.
I don't believe that Lucien would lie about such a rare occurrence in fae history, no way.
Lucien “I’m a mated male,” Vanserra is the last character to ever be seen as deceptive in this series—especially in a way that would paint him as a villain archetype. Lucien, who lost his eye by spitting back at Amarantha. Lucien, who bowed before Rhys in order to protect Feyre. Lucien, who accepted lashings and near death more than once to help Feyre UTM. Lucien, who gave up his home and friends to both help Feyre and to see his mate. Lucien, who shook at the sound of his name upon Elain’s lips. Lucien, who travelled across the world just because of Elain’s visions.
Lucien may have his faults, but purposefully faking a mating bond to deceive the Inner Circle? Sounds to me like some people lack a clear understanding of how he is as a character—and also the nuances of a mating bond, fated mates trope, and the romantasy subgenre.
I have exhausted this same argument time and time again, but the fact is that, once Feyre unleashed Helion’s Spellcleaving ability in Hybern, any spells/wards/charms would have been dismantled. In the case that Lucien had, somehow, created a fake mating bond in that moment, Feyre would have broken it. On top of that, Feyre has looked into his mind and the reader experienced the pull of the mating bond/mating instincts that Lucien felt in ACOWAR. On top of that, both Elain and Lucien have exhibited mate behavior towards one another/for one another throughout the series.
Azriel and Elain are not mates and that is simply debunked by Elain and Lucien being mates. There is not a single reason why a fake mating bond would need to have been created, especially because SJM changed Lucien’s mate from Nesta to Elain. Had she planned on any sort of fake bonds/rejected bonds, that would have taken place with Lucien and Nesta. Her simply speaking about them in interviews, online, and unprompted is telling enough of her intentions and plans—the same plans she claims has not changed.
I truly want to know what these people believe that Lucien would gain from spying on the Night Court. Who is he giving his intel to? Eris, who already has a front row seat to the Inner Circle? Beron, who has no interest in him? Tamlin, who is a shell of his former self? Koschei, who has more interest in Nesta and Vassa than the Inner Circle?
Allow us to humor them for a moment. Lucien faked a bond with Elain, yet spends the majority of his time in the mortal lands away from her—what intel is he gathering by being away? How did he manage to tug on the bond and have Elain feel the thread around her rib? How did he manage to trick Feyre into seeing his mating instincts when she looked into his mind? The list can go on and on.
tl;dr — The bond between Elain and Lucien is real, has always been real, and they are true mates. Any other argument against any of those canonical facts needs to be taken up with SJM herself.
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oifaaa · 11 months ago
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"Why would Padme choose Anakin when Obi-wan was right there" Shut Up Maybe the fact that Padme did choose Anakin and agreed to marry him after a week should tell you a wee bit more about what type of person Padme is
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cervinae-canine · 7 months ago
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if you unironically think "proshippers made the selfship community", I will banish you to the dumbass dimension for all eternity.
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unnecessary-dinosaurs · 7 months ago
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A dumb comic i started forever ago and kept forgetting about. Finally finished it purely out of spite. Anyways silly domestic Bowman brothers I love them so much.
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Season five timeskip save me. Save me season five timeskip I love you.
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Genuinely would love to meet the "purely positive" dog trainers that aversive/balanced trainers keep talking about. You know, the ones that are so against using force that they just let their dogs walk into traffic.
Boy, they sure must lose a lot of dogs every year and honestly I'm amazed they're still alive themselves if they're getting dragged in front of a semi trailer every time they go out for a walk...
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ghostellie · 11 months ago
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Expecting every junior driver to be the next Max Verstappen is stupid
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objectiveunknown · 1 year ago
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Oh so trans women just transition to beat cis women at sport?
So trans men just transition to lose to cis men at sport right?
Because sport is at the total centre of every trans persons life?
That’s why we take hormones and wear binders which actively make exercise/gaining muscle mass harder and more painful of course…
And there’s no way that an afab and amab person could ever be physical equals right?
So if a trans masc pro boxer and a trans femme person who never exercised had a physical fight the trans femme person would easily win because she’s amab?
✨Makes sense to me✨
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acebender · 3 months ago
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me scrolling past long ass posts describing why the Bells Hells didn't deserve happy endings
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starlightsaphron · 1 month ago
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Being a raven fan in hell cause only like a minority of this fandom actually gets her.
The reason that she’s a coward is because she cares and that terrifies her. She’s not this deadbeat with no depth
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lyonface · 1 year ago
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Genuinely convinced that the people who love Ascended!Astarion and argue with people about him genuinely loving Tav the same way he did before, or it being his best ending over Spawn (in terms of character arc, not taste) legit only picked the enthusiastic options for Tav when dealing with him, and most certainly didn't break up with him and talk to him afterward. He says some downright chilling shit to a Tav who refused to become a spawn.
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And like, sure, it's because he's hurt and he's coping to some degree. Astarion can be vicious even in a good mode, and Tav agreeing to help him ascend only to essentially abandon him is painful to deal with, but of all the shit for him to say??
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Tav can argue that he's becoming like Cazador the night before, and he gets so hurt and angry if Tav says that, and it makes sense! It's a harsh thing to say, and even after that argument, no matter what, Astarion will be willing to let it go if Tav wants to stay together and agrees to become his Spawn. You can run through the entire dialogue tree again before it forces you to pick an out option, that's how desperate he is to keep them. But like goddamn how can you beat the accusations if you're willing to say shit like this?? A thing that could have easily come straight from Cazador!
Regardless, however, of his desperation, his real feelings, Ascended!Astarion is fundamentally different, in his mind, than how he used to be. Magic has literally corrupted him, changed what his body is capable of, the curse that he was given as a spawn is different now. Sure, Astarion didn't stop loving Tav the second the ritual was over, or the day after or the day after that, but even he knows he's changing, and rapidly, but he can only recognize so much of what's different, and everyone else can see what he can't. By his epilogue at the end of the game, he might as well be another vampire lord, just far, far more dangerous.
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thenaturalorderbaby · 21 days ago
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The Pizza is too hot. No it’s not veggie. It’s a last name!
Jen: This pizza is too hot
Agatha: No it’s not
Lilia: girls pls
Rio: I’ll eat it
Jen: oh hell no
Lilia: girls
Alice: stop fighting pls?
Billy: yea listen to Alice
Agatha: yea, well the vegetable person is wrong the pizza is warm at most!
Lilia: IT DOESNT MATTER EAT ALL OF YOU OR SO HELP ME!
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msnihilist · 5 months ago
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"The cops wouldn't frame a rich guy," okay but how would they have known that he's from a rich family? They got a tip from a McDonald's about a guy who looks like the shooter — it's very possible that they had fake "evidence" on standby (like the money that Mangione claims he didn't have with him), decided that this guy was "close enough," and then only found out the details about his life after. I mean, it's not like cops do thorough background checks before they arrest people.
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mysterycitrus · 1 year ago
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dear diary how do u write from jason todd’s perspective without sounding sincerely unhinged
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b0ylik3r · 1 year ago
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autistic-katara · 1 year ago
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saying this like 90% of us aren’t lesbians and most of the rest r bi or smthn
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kissboybyler · 2 months ago
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i think that one of the most idiotic anti-byler arguments is the one that goes “but they live in a small town in the 80s! It’d be too unrealistic for mike to be gay and in love with will!” There are SO many faulty things about this statement, i can hardly keep myself from screaming.
First off, “they live in a small town” you say? So what now? Sexuality is defined by your geographical location now? Like, “oh, you don’t live in one the few main big cities in the world where it’s relatively safe to be gay and proud and able to celebrate your love! You can’t possibly be gay! I know another gay person within a 10 mile radius of where you live, it’d be too unrealistic for you guys to live this near each other!” Whether you live in a small town in Indiana, london, or a little village in the east, it doesn’t matter. Just because you were born in a small conservative town doesn’t mean you can’t be gay. Trust us, it would have been so convenient if that were true, and it would have saved millions of lives.
Secondly, the fact that it’s the 80s doesn’t mean Mike can’t be gay and in love because, for starters, gay people weren’t a fabrication of the 21st century. Hell, gay people weren’t even a fabrication of the last millennia. We have always existed. Just because you don’t often see queerness in old works of art or literature, movies even, sculptures, folk music, it doesn’t mean it wasn’t there. It was just hidden behind metaphors, melodies and longing stares, the light brush of fingertips and eyes forever locked and captured in paintings. Just because people weren’t able to label themselves or “come out” or state their love in more concrete ways, it doesn’t mean their feelings didn’t exist. I can accept people saying “it’d be hard for him to accept himself” (same goes for will, robin and every other queer character) because hell yeah it would! It’d shake and shatter his perception of both himself and the world around him once his feelings were clear. “It would be hard of them to come out, even to the people closest to them” definitely! It’s still so difficult to come out, because you just can’t know for sure how the other person is gonna react to your coming out, if their perception of you might be altered forever. It’s a huge risk to take. And i can’t imagine what it must have been like for queer people back then. But to say that it’d be unrealistic for mike to be gay and in love with will? That’s such bull, in my opinion. Of course it would be difficult for him to decipher his feelings at first, but the lack of words to describe them doesn’t completely disregard their existence.
I just- if you don’t ship byler, that’s fine. Truly. But please stop this bullshit because it makes you look ignorant and stupid
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