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I was going to write a whole ass post about my thoughts on Obi-Wan's view of Padmé but for now I'll just say this; Obi-Wan had an unwavering faith and fondness for her. She was a true friend and her death effected him greatly.
#* headcanon.#this applies to my interpretation of obi wan.#to me they are friends.#they worked together.#and he had trust and faith in her abilities as a senator.#and a human being.#that sort of development started with the invasion of naboo.#and only grew from then on.
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Masterpost 2024
Hello there!
All Hallow’s Jangobi is a Halloween-themed Jango/Obi-Wan week that will take place in the week leading up to Halloween 2024. It will start on October 25th and end on October 31st. The event is open for everyone, writer or artist. You can write, draw or create as much or as little as you want. If you want to write 1k, 20k or three different fics, it's dealer's choice! Every day will have two different prompts, that you are free to interpret however you want. You are also free to participate only one day or every single day, do only the main prompts, or only the alts, or both.
The prompts for 2024 can be found here.
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I'm realizing that part of the reason I don't buy Obitine as a ship is because I can't apply the thwarted love story (the "We can't be together because who we are and the lives we've chosen are incompatible but we love each other because of who we are anyway" storyline) to Obi-Wan.
My interpretation of Obi-Wan does not allow for him to be someone who would ever be remorseful about choosing to be a Jedi. My Obi-Wan would never feel remorse about giving up a life where he COULDN'T be a Jedi. My interpretation of Obi-Wan requires that he love being a Jedi SO MUCH that nothing else even comes close, nothing else compares. There is no relationship, romantic or otherwise, that could ever eclipse what being a Jedi means to him. It's in his bones, his blood. He can no more feel remorseful about choosing to be a Jedi than he can feel remorseful about breathing.
The thwarted love storyline requires that the incompatibility is really really sad for the people involved even as they recognize it's the best thing for both of them, but I don't honestly believe Obi-Wan would ever feel that sad about choosing to be a Jedi over a relationship. I can buy that he'd feel remorseful about hurting Satine's feelings or breaking her heart or whatever, but not over the choice to remain a Jedi itself.
So I just... don't buy it. It doesn't fit into my interpretation of who Obi-Wan NEEDS TO BE as a character in this narrative for him to be remorseful over not being with Satine, it never will.
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Last Line Challenge
Rules: in a new post, show the last line you wrote (or drew) and tag as many people as there are words (or as many as you feel like). I was tagged by @omaano and @mcu-supersoldiers (a while back. I'm sorry, work is eating my brain).
So here is a snippet from the next part of the Darth Victus AU. Watch me applying a very liberal interpretation of how force lightning works and stealing the lightning rerouting trick from atla ...
The ball of lightning hit Obi-wan’s hand and some of it spread, splashed like water over Obi-wan’s arm. Maul’s master cursed, and for a moment it looked like he wouldn’t manage, like he would get overwhelmed. But then the lightning flowed from one arm to the other, being rerouted. It sprang from his fingertips on the other side, hit a nearby rock and split it in two.
Obi-wan didn’t stop cursing when it was over though. He shook out the arm that had caught the lightning ball as if trying to get rid of lingering pain.
Maul couldn’t help but grin again. That he had managed to be better at something related to force lightning put him in an extremely good mood. “Someone is not used to being on the receiving end of this.”
Obi-wan glared at him. “Someone is asking to get force choked.”
I'm tagging: @withercrown @spicedrobot @mcu-supersoldiers @obimaulartfire
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Okay, 2 things I really, really love about your writing and DLB (be prepared for praise)
1. Your commentary and meta on the Force. Reading through your post on how western (Christianity) theology ruined the prequels— yes! I have been saying this for years but I never knew how to put it in words or explain why the force felt so different in the PT vs the OT, and why I always preferred the force in the OT more than the PT (you hit the nail on the head). And I appreciate that this is the route you’ve taken in your writing, and I have to say since I’m writing my own SW fic I have been reading through that post and applying it to how I write about the force in my own story, and looking at things with a more critical eye and being mindful of what the force is and how it does/doesn’t work.
2. Your characterization of Anakin. I think yours is the best characterization of him I’ve ever read in a fic (I mean it). When I read DLB, I feel like I’m actually reading an Anakin from the PT. I think when it comes to a lot of fics about Anakin, I think authors tend to write him more like he is in the TCW, which is totally fine (I love the TCW) but DLB is just refreshing to me, and I know it’s because you’re sticking mostly to the movies with added bits from the TCW. For me, TCW Anakin feels a lot different from PT Anakin (sometimes it feels like they’re two different people), and Ive always preferred the Anakin in the movies (which is why I LOVE DLB). And it’s not just Anakin, but all of the characters are just written extremely well and true to their portrayals in the movies: shmi, padme, obi-wan, the list goes on.
3. (I know I only said 2, but I feel like being a Rebel). I think you’re one of the first authors of a SW time travel to bring up the very poignant point that just because it’s a time travel fic does not mean that we’re owed a big reveal. I mean, honestly, if I was Leia and I was dropped into that situation, I would do the exact same thing. My mouth would be wired shut, you’d have to tickle/torture me to get that out of me. Leia doesn’t owe anyone that part of herself and it’s not super relevant either, so why bring it up just to bring it up. If it does end up being relevant to the plot then I would very much enjoy a reveal, but you’re such a good writer that no matter where the cards fall I know I will not be disappointed either way— I am all here for how you write it. But the way you’ve written so far feels realistic and authentic to how a real person would react in that situation
I’ll end it here, but yeah! I appreciate you and DLB and I look forward to seeing where you take things.
I am blushing like crazy, you're so kind.
1) I know my rejection of an even semi-sentient Force isn't popular and doesn't mesh with current canon, but I prefer and stand by it. I'm glad that it resonates with someone else!
2) I agree that Anakin characterization is So Hard because he's not really consistent between the OT, PT, and TCW. I find my interpretation strongly influenced by TPM Anakin specifically (another Anakin!). That bright, kind little boy who was too smart and too talented for his own good! I love him and I want to protect him!
3) Be a Rebel! :) The "reveal" issue is something I think about a lot. I get lots of comments--ever increasing as the story goes on and the silence holds--about how excited or anxious people are for a reveal. What they think people's reactions will be. Why it must happen at some point. I can understand the underlying tension issue, and how people are probably on the edge of their seat. But I agree with you anon, Leia doesn't owe her past to anyone. There have been, are, and will be consequences to her silence. If and when she chooses to break it, it will be a Big Deal for whoever she trusts with the truth.
But for now, get comfy folks. Leia isn't going to break so easily.
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Saxon Bros (that's what I will call the HWS Saxony and England duo from now on):
So I suddenly got the idea of England joking about Saxony being his father (they just have a brotherly bond) and then Saxony not knowing all about it until someone mistook him for his father. And Saxony in his mind would be like: "I'm too young to be a father (perhaps being a sugar daddy's fine)" and "What the fuck is Arthur doing?"
Either he would deny that he was not really Arthur's father or would play along with Arthur's little joke (perhaps even thinking of killing Arthur later), depending on the circumstances.
An alternate scenario was Saxony being aware of it from the start and engaging in shenanigans with Arthur. Or Saxony being the one who would start the joke out of the two of them.
Also, if you watched Avatar: The Last Airbender, remember Katara and Sokka and the scene where they disguised themselves as Aang's parents. Then, imagine Arthur and Saxony in something like that instead. (We can also add Fem!HRE!Germany, whom I shipped with Arthur, in the mix, replacing Katara, considering Katara was also Sokka's younger sister and Aang's future lover. But having the male HRE!Germany disguised as a woman adds to the comedy effect lol.)
(Avatar: The Last Airbender, Book Three: Fire, Episode 2: The Headband)
It's funny to imagine Saxony disguising himself to make himself look older, such as wearing a moustache or beard, (and perhaps to also resemble Arthur), and Arthur restraining a laugh, as they talk to humans, who do not know who and what they truly are, thinking that they are merely talking to fellow humans who are father and son.
Add to that their joking about being father and son to Arthur's siblings/children, depending on how you interpret his relationship with his young colonies, given that they don't know Saxony well and haven't known Arthur for very long.
I suppose this can also work for those who knew them best and longer, such as their biological (in personification's definition) family, confusing the hell out of them.
Arthur: "Yes, I treat him my father, and he treats me as his son, now shut up."
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I also thought of comparing their relationship with Anakin and Obi-Wan in Star Wars. I love the interpretation of Anakin seeing Obi-Wan as a father figure at first, while Obi-Wan only saw him as a brother, with Anakin eventually learning to see Obi-Wan as a brother as well.
Now, apply that to England and Saxony. England would see Saxony as a father figure at first, and as he grew older, he would begin to see Saxony as a brother. Of course, they would not always get along, just like with Anakin and Obi-Wan.
#hws england#hws saxony#world stars hetalia#saxon bros#hetalia hc#i know there were other tribes who settled in britain#and there's more than one saxony in germany#but i feel like the other tribes' personifications would die early#i also like to have only one saxony personification#who was old saxony
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sup!! welcome to mutatiio!!
this is a selective and mutuals only multi-muse (featuring star wars characters). canon divergent and headcanon based.
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activity : low main : darth maul and anakin skywalker secondary : bode akuna request only : dryden vos
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portrayal. this blog is heavily headcanon based. my interpretations for maul and anakin come largely from legends with a mix of current canon stuff. i have made a relationship section for my muses to hopefully make this a little easier. if you ever have any questions then feel free to ask. i know everything makes sense in my head, but due to books/movies/shows having vastly different characterisations, i know it can be confusing.
plotting. i love plotting. if you ever have any ideas at all please send them to me and i will do the same for you. however, sometimes unplotted things for a first interaction can be very nice and a natural way to see how our muses mesh together. format i default to the style of my current writing partner. if you don’t have icons then i won’t use icons. if you do, i will. i’m not too fussed about it.
sequels. i don’t like the sequels. more than happy to write with the characters in some capacity, but things gotta shift around a bit. i deeply dislike reylo so i won’t be following if i see that you’re posting it on the dash a lot.
shipping. i ship chemistry. just because i ship my character with one version of a character doesn’t mean i’ll ship them with every version. do not follow me if you ship: incest, padawan x master (even if it's an au where they're not - i feel the same way about this as i would aging up a character just to ship), clone x clone, underage characters with adults. maul is awkward. shipping is not at all a priority that i have for him. however, i do ship obimaul. feel free to either block my tag for it or not follow at all. anidala is not my preferred anakin ship and i likely will not be writing it unless it develops very naturally. bode is difficult to ship with since he is still very much in love with his deceased wife. dryden is difficult just as a person generally.
duplicates. i will not be following anyone back who writes maul or anakin. this is for my own comfort and has nothing to do with anyone else. so if i have not followed you back and you write either of them, that's why. some exceptions apply.
tagging. i will be tagging obvious triggers. as a warning, due to the nature of the characters i write, there will be mentions of abuse, childhood trauma, slavery and murder. i will be reading mutuals rules and trying to tag everything. please let me know if i make a mistake!! anything suggestive will be tagged as ‘tw suggestive’ or ‘nsft’. i would appreciate seizure mentions being tagged.
mains/exclusives. i am happy to do mains should we interact a lot. this mostly means that my first ideas for the characters we write together will go to you before anyone else. asks i get sent in relation to your character(s) are likely to be answered in regards to the verses that we have plotted. exclusives are going to be very rare as i do not wish to cut myself off from anyone. exclusives are for people i write/plot with a lot. i will only be interacting with your version of the character. should the blog go inactive, exclusives will be removed. i will not be writing with any obi-wan other than mayxthexforce - i will not follow single-blogs of obi-wan, but may follow back if he's on a multimuse.
anakin. i am not at all interested in writing anakin during his time as darth vader. therefore, my anakin will be au based. everything up until his fall is the same. everything surrounding the fall will change according to the verse i'm writing in.
oc's. i’m extremely oc and crossover friendly. i am always open to any original characters or crossovers. however, please don't assume relationships. i have no interest in oc siblings or oc children of any of my muses unless discussed. also, i have no interest in oc's who are just married to a canon character by default. please don't come to me and tell me something like maul wants to kill my muse because they're married to obi-wan.
dni. do not come near me if you are ableist, aphobic, homophobic, racist or transphobic. if you ship obikin or anisoka then begone. if you write any content relating to j.k. rowling (including aus).
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The relevance of Star Wars to pop culture depictions of archives [Part 3]
Continued from part 2
The entry for Nu on page 87 of Amy Ratcliffe's Star Wars: Women of the Galaxy, which summarizes her role in Star Wars.
What McGrath is saying echoes what is stated elsewhere in the archival literature: that Nu wore "a traditional, conservative robe" and that the archives "even resembled a library, with stacks of glowing records lined up on the shelves," while stating that she exhibited some qualities of stereotypes usually applied to librarians. The same article in Archivaria notes that Obi-Wan did not follow the advice of the archivist, going on a search for the planet, while Nu "with all of her extensive knowledge, was quickly forgotten" in the film. [10] Additional literature noted the similarities between the BIONICLE universe made by Lego, with a Great Archives in Onu-Metru. This series even had a character named Tehutti who is said to have spent all his time within the archives! I was a big fan and user of LEGO for years and never remember this, or how central this archives is to the universe. [11]
Reprinted from my Wading Through the Cultural Stacks WordPress blog. Originally published on Oct. 12, 2022.
Others have said that Obi-Wan was "put in his place by the lady archivist" (Nu) and summarizes Ketelaar who describes archives as "sites of power". Furthermore, renowned archivist Michelle Caswell in 2020 speech at the Association of Canadian Archivists’ annual conference, made an argument about liberatory memory work, saying that they are not bound to linear time in a "sort of Star Wars out-of-order kind of way". [12] That's just two examples, but there is more in other archival literature. For instance, on pages 22 and 23 of the May 2022 edition of Estudios del Discurso, Nina Hoechtl, a visual artist, curator, teacher and independent researcher at Museo Amparo, noted Attack of the Clones as an example of an archival imaginary, and said that:
The archive is a site that joins various sorts of assumptions about kinds of knowledge –how to store,access, retrieve and re-active them, and what is knowable– that are crucial to the ways people, communities, and societies think about themselves, deal with their pasts, ponder on their presents, and imagine their futures.
Caitlin Patterson of Western Washington University makes one one of the more interesting perspectives about Nu: that she does not "conform to all the standard stereotypes" of archives, describing her as "fierce and imposing," and countering "the image of archivists as shy and retreating", stating that her age "commands more respect than that of the average fictional archivist". She goes onto say that Nu is intelligent and dedicated but not "cloistered or passive", but seems to have a "certain possessiveness of the collections" and states that Nu suggests a "different interpretation of the archivist which...still offers a reasonable explanation of her role". [13]
In conclusion, the cranky archivist I noted at the beginning of this post is dead wrong, and should be a bit ashamed of themselves. Star Wars, and pop culture in general will continue to be relevant to archives, and the profession as a whole, [14] whether we like those depictions or not. As for this blog, I'm going keep posting these articles even if people on /r/archivists, a group of individuals who luckily do not represent the majority of the profession, hate them.
© 2022 Burkely Hermann. All rights reserved.
Notes
[10] Aldred, Tana, Gordon Burr, and Eun Park. (2008). "Crossing a Librarian with a Historian: The Image of Reel Archivists." Archivaria 66: 80, 84, 89.
[11] Schwartz, Joan M. (2006) "'Having New Eyes': Spaces of Archives, Landscapes of Power." Archivaria 61 (September), 19-23.
[12] Buckley, Karen. (2008) "'The Truth is in the Red Files': An Overview of Archives in Popular Culture", Archivaria 66 (1), 101; Caswell, Michelle. (2020). "Feeling Liberatory Memory Work: On the Archival Uses of Joy and Anger", Archivaria 90, 151.
[13] Peterson, Caitlin. “No Dust in Cyberspace?: The Effects of Internet Technology on Perceptions of Archives.” Masters, Western Washington University, 2012. See page 18.
[14] Star Wars appears to be mentioned in archives (and library) literature such as Archive Stories: Facts, Fictions, and the Writing of History, Ljiljana Gavrilović's Culture in Show-Window: Toward a New Museology, Beth M. Sheppard's "Future Shock: The Inevitable Impact of a "New Generation of Patron" on Theological Libraries" (calls Nu a librarian rather than an archivist), a conference paper by Alexandra L. Fitzpatrick and S. Halmhofer entitled "There is Power in the Past: The Politicization of Archaeology and Heritage in the Star Wars Universe", the books Teaching Gender with Libraries and Archives and The Image and Role of the Librarian, S Koevoets' "Into the Labyrinth of Knowledge and Power: The library as a gendered space in the western imaginary", an quoted at the beginning of David Levente Palatinus's article "Subjectivity and the Hauntology of the Digital", to name a few.
#star wars#jocasta nu#swtcw#star wars the clone wars#archivists#jedi temple#coruscant#darth vader#archives#archival science#archival studies#attack of the clones#bioncle#archive fashion#lego#michelle caswell#stereotypes#tropes#live action
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I'm so confused why people accuse you of being transphobic again here?? On Tumblr? Fanfic?
I think it's the same people, to be honest. I'm not really sure what else I can do to prove myself. I think once some people's minds are set they're just going to believe what they think no matter what anyone tells them.
I haven't been on twitter, so I don't know if it's still being talked about over there.
I know that people who can't relate were upset by some of the dialogue in my fic, but for people like me who have that experience, it isn't something offensive to say. It's comforting. I wrote Padmé saying that to Anakin because I, as someone who shares the experiences I was writing about Anakin having, would be comforted by someone saying that to me. It would be an opening for more dialogue about what I feel.
It feels insensitive to me that people who can't relate to this are trying to apply it to themselves and say it's wrong, because it isn't for them. I wouldn't go around saying that dialogue about Anakin being trans in trans Anakin fics is insensitive to detransitioners, because I know it isn't for me.
The fact that people are mad about it apparently being anti-Jedi is also a whole other thing, which I have not really been commenting on, but in the fic I don't even mention the Jedi by name. I said in the fic that Obi-Wan always did what he thought would be best for Anakin. In the end, it's Anakin's choice to stay trapped in a life she doesn't want, just like every other issue that character has, if Anakin communicated more openly a lot of really big problems could have had solutions. But in the very end, the Jedi are fictional and Anakin Skywalker isn't real. These things are open to interpretation and how we read stories is influenced by the lives we have lived as real people.
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Only Sith deal in absolutes
but goddammit if there isn't a great deal of writers salivating at the idea of committing to the sithly path in the name of the Light.
It isn't like this maxim isn't widely known - it is one of the most recognizable quotes from the movies and firmly established as canon, instead of being in that grey area of Legends canon that a lot of our other worldbuilding blocks are, like Obi's background and upbringing, or the fighting styles and forms, or the clone troopers own internal culture and the mandalorian influence on it. And while there is some sophisticated wankery about the statement being an absolute in itself, Obi-Wan is still voicing a prevalent belief held by the Order.
And then an author goes and says, you know what would be a splendid idea? If we had one chosen being or one designated race that is hundred percent immune to the Dark Side! I am going to create an Absolute that is Light!!11! Talk about failing to understand the assignment.
I understand where those authors come from - it is so much easier to deal with amoral choices when you can chuck off all the responsibility on some Chosen One, so much easier to argue that it is not you, the author, who had killed off a fave, or failed to reconcile a conflict that had caused a lot of pain and grief in canon (Jaster, my beloved, you died too young!), but it was the Force's will, or the inability of your savior to act in time.
But this is bullshit reasoning. People fail. Bad things happen. If you are immune to the struggles normal Jedi - and normal people - have of finding the most honorable path forward out of only bad choices, then you can't understand that struggle and you will lack compassion for those who are fallible. Your own choices will be based on something other than compassion and honor, most likely efficiency, which will in turn likely make your decisions monstrous in eyes of others, making you a monster. Just because the author writes the most positive outcome possible, doesn't change that this is the same road paved with good intentions that Anakin embarked on - if only there was one good, trustworthy politician who could be trusted with absolute power to make decisions over everyone! We all know how that turned out.
The danger of the Dark Side is not in merely existing. That 's a purity wankers' mindset and I wouldn't touch with a ten-foot pole. The danger of the Dark Side is that it is pervasive and can corrupt even the best of men, no exceptions, if they don't stay vigilant and guard against letting small exceptions slide that tend to be followed by big exceptions and being open to blackmail until they suddenly find themselves doing the work of evil unquestioningly and enthusiastically, even if it is just to stay ahead. That is what the Jedi were supposed to learn - not to stagnate in their moral superiority but to be ever vigilant and not compromise their beliefs. And that is much more difficult to write, and much less rewarding emotionally, when whatever you choose still leaves your hands dirty.
(I am not calling out those who write fic using those tropes - I have read plenty of fic in SW utilising it with great enjoyment. It's just - as as I loved those fics, they always ring wrong because they go against everything I understand about the Force from canon. Even the prophecy that Qui-Gon believes to apply to Anakin talks about bringing balance to the Force - not the complete eradication of one side of it. But it's not like I don't have my problems with the Jedi's interpretation of what the Force wants and how to achieve that anyway, and I suppose that this is a matter of a difference of opinion. After all, if only the Sith deal in absolutes, then only the Jedi are capable of waffling the smallest disagreement interminably until everyone involved longs for the sweet embrace of death.)
((I wanted to say the Dark Side is capable of corrupting everyone and everything, with no exceptions, so long as you draw breath, but had to rethink that. Is it really true that the Force stops influencing someone when they are dead? We DO have Force Ghosts. And while Anakin did repent upon dying, was it really long enough to reverse his Fall, so that he could become a Ghost himself? Do we really know how far the effects of Sith Alchemy reach? So, yeah, you might not even be safe when you are dead. I would watch out, Bail, if I were you; the enemy knows your name.)
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Well, I got this on my feed thanks to the algorithm, so now I kinda feel obliged to reply as an Obikin enjoyer.
I think three important notions of having a ship and let ship mentality is 1. awareness of the fact that we all interpret a body of work differently. Even what is explicitly said in text may be interpreted through storytelling devices like unreliable narrators or by assuming omission. 2. Remembering that the whole point of fandom is finding new angles/creating narratives based on the stories we love. Shipping especially so. And finally, that 3. it's all fictional good fun. Disregard the author, do your what-if's, write a bunch of noncon pwp, crack-ship characters who've never met or whatever.
In my humble opinion, you don't 'ship and let ship' nor are you fandom-friendly on this topic 🤷. I say this because you first claim that your interpretation is more valid than anybody elses by stating that Obikin and Quiobi don't work in-universe without saying why. Then you instead list a bunch your own preferred real-world norms, moral standards and associations as if they apply to others' fictional narratives.
To answer your question "Why can't Obikin be in a familiar relationship, not romantic?" it's because I don't interpret Star Wars the same way you do, I want to explore other kinds of narratives than you do, and I like to have good fun in the fandom we all love, just like you.
The world is a complex place and some of us prefer to explore other scenarios and narratives than those that are normative and entirely expected. For me personally it's because I find those narratives uninspiring.
To go into specifics, which you may not care about, I personally ship obikin as something in between platonic, romantic and familiar that is both intense, complex and blurry - feelings that they themselves don't fully understand or ever get to explore due to Obi-Wans repressed nature and reluctance towards discussing emotions. I see these feelings as existing parallel to Anakin's infatuation with Padmè - you can love more than one person - and for Anakin that's a big narrative theme. This interpretation is based on my reading of the 20 years or so of legends, canon and reference material out there. I enjoy this narrative becasue it enhances the tragedy of Mustafar, as there are extra layers of unresolved emotional tension there when the plot drives our trio into a corner.
I also enjoy jokingly referring to Obikin as endgame in reference to their reunion in the Force that is orchestrated by Obi-Wan while Padmé remains gone. But of course that's up to interpretation like everything else 🤭.
I really can’t understand Obikin and Quiobi. For me it tastes as both partially pedophilia and partially incest. Just think of it – both Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon have known their padawans since kids were 9 and 12 respectively. They were parent figures, literally brought their padawans up. And then – romance? How can any adult feel romantic towards a person who they remember as a child? It’s not the same situation when people with big age difference meet as grown-ups. Also marriage between step-parents and step-children or adoptive parents and adopted children, although not blood-related, is considered incest.
Ship and let ship, I know, but in-universe these ships just don’t work at all – and there’re a lot of shippers who insist Obikin is endgame and it has always been so. Specifically thanks to Matthew Stover, the author of ROTS novelization, who inserted a lot of ‘Obikin’ moments which are often translated as a prove of in-universe romance.
And I’m not even mentioning power imbalance of ‘teacher-student’ relationship. Why can’t Quiobi and Obikin be in ‘familiar’ relationship, not romantic? After all, Anakin canonically has Padme, and Obi-Wan is shippable with lots of characters without weird pedo stink (including clones, because clones are adult men who grew up faster, not kids in adult bodies).
#obikin#i love this ship smh#who do you ship obi-wan with?#there are some cool implied female love interests in legends that I just find a bit too forced and unnecessarily heteronormative#my fav is taria damsin if i had to choose .. like her more than satine 😅#i also die-hard ship obi-wan with bail organa but aint nobody got time for that apparently 😭
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Masterpost 2023
Hello there!
All Hallow’s Jangobi 2023 is a Halloween-themed Jango/Obi-Wan event that will take place on the 31st of October 2023. This year we're trying another format: instead of the event taking an entire week, it will only take place during the day of Halloween itself. Since we realized a little too late that we didn't prepare a vote for prompts in advance, there won't be any prompt either: the general theme is Jango/Obi-wan and Halloween. Aside from that, you can go wild! The event is open for everyone, writer or artist. You can write, draw or create as much or as little as you want. If you want to write 1k, 20k or three different fics, you're free to do as you want! There will be an open AO3 collection for everyone to post their works to, and we will do our best to reblog everything posted to tumblr as well. As a reminder, if you post anything here on tumblr, tag this blog directly (@allhallowsjangobi ) so we can see and reblog your creations.
Important links again: FAQ How to join the Jangobi discord server
Under the cut you read the rules for the event:
All Hallows Jangobi is a free and low-pressure event based on the Star Wars pairing Jango/Obi-wan. The event will be somewhat moderated, so here are a list of the rules:
1) All submissions are welcome,
as long as they feature the pairing Jango/Obi-wan and correspond (as least a little) to the All Hallows theme. You can create anything you want!
2) All ratings and archive warnings accepted
Most of the content will be hosted either on AO3 or on tumblr. Please tags your content accurately and use the correct warnings when they apply. You are free to create any type of work you wish, but appropriate warnings are a must, especially since halloween topics can be open to a wide range of interpretation and can range from cracky to angsty: one might take the topic zombie and make it a cute trick and treat fic, another might turn it into an mcd zombie apocalypse.
If a mod ask you to add a tag, please do so.
3) No rude comments or harassment
Self-explanatory. We all want to have a fun event, so don’t offer unasked for criticism, let people create whatever they want (even if you don’t personally agree with it) and don’t be rude! Don’t like, don’t read and ykinmkato (your kink is not my kink and that’s okay) rules apply.
4) No bashing of Jango or Obi-wan
This event is centered around these two characters, so no bashing of Jango or Obi-wan. Bashing of other specific characters (e.g Dooku, Qui-gon, Palpatine, etc) is allowed.
5) WIPs are free to be shared
This isn’t a secret event or an exchange, so feel free to share snippets, sketches, anything of the likes with people! Feedback can help motivate anyone.
6) Dark content allowed when correctly tagged
You can create something light-hearted or go as dark as you want, but you must tag your creation accurately. Use the AO3 warnings as a reference and complete them if necessary. If a mod ask you to add a content warning, please do so.
7) Submissions will be tagged all hallows jangobi 2023
You can submit your creations to this blog or the AO3 collection. You can post to the collection by either going to the collection page and clicking “Post to Collection” or by adding allhallowsjangobi2023 in the collection field on a new work.
You can also post them on your own blogs. You just need to tag them AND tag this blog so the mods can find them!
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I find it hard to believe Palpatine never CONSIDERS the possibility of one of his schemes going wrong. What I'd believe is that Palpatine is so arrogant that he's extremely confident in the plan going exactly the way he thinks it will and his own ability to get himself out of the situation without blowing his cover if need be, and, quite honestly, he's not often wrong about that. For example, if Anakin had just... dropped him when the two of them are hanging precariously in the Invisible Hand, I'd be willing to bet that Palpatine would've found a way to survive and he might've decided to just kill Anakin to keep from being discovered because it's more important to survive in order to create his Empire than it is to keep his secret at that point.
Palpatine gets CLOSE to death in these schemes pretty often, but never so close that he legitimately has to do anything to protect himself. He's very very good at ACTING like he thinks he's about to die, but I honestly don't think he ever believes he will. The acting is for Anakin's sake (and anyone else who might have come along with Anakin, like Obi-Wan).
And I think you can apply that to the scene in his office with Mace in ROTS, as well. There's a certain level of interpretation to the scene, probably, I'm not sure if there's specific quotes of Lucas's that have explicitly said one way or the other if he's faking. But he's obviously being very much physically deformed, that can't be denied, so there IS a physical impact on him that is canonical, and my personal interpretation is that Palpatine would have died if it had continued. So while he's very likely playing up his pain and weakness for Anakin to some degree, he's clearly BEING HURT by the lightning. And aside from the fight against Yoda, we never actually see him do any real fighting after this and he mostly relies on using the lightning or sending Anakin out in his place, which could be an indication that he was hurt more than it seemed by the lightning. And with the fight against Yoda, Order 66 has pretty recently happened, so he could be getting a pretty big boost of Dark Side juice or something keeping him going while Yoda is getting the opposite. We know that the Dark side can canonically keep people alive through what should be fatal injuries, so it's not impossible that Palpatine is utilizing something like that within this fight either.
So I think the truth is probably somewhere in the middle. He's not faking EVERYTHING, he IS getting injured by the lightning, but he's absolutely faking how weak it's making him and his ability to fight back in order to manipulate Anakin more in the moment.
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a re-iteration of my rules for interacting with me, my blog and my work, as some of you seem to have forgotten as of late
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I'm always hesitant to apply too much neurodiversity to Star Wars when I'm not sure it's intended (in the sense of "this is the authorial intent of what's going on", not "interpreting this character through this lens adds so much cool stuff to think about", the latter is something I'm all in favor of!) but with this one I think it's fair to run a lot more freely with it, because Dawson's intro sets the stage for how this is about being a parallel for mental health and I think it works so well. Because Iskat is a character who is going to go on to be an Inquisitor, who will hurt many people, but the writing never lets you escape from how much you care about her or understand that the problems she faced were genuinely painful ones that, as those of us who struggle with mental health problems, can feel so intensely connected to her, especially that feeling of, "Nobody can understand what I'm going through and anything they try to say sounds like they don't care." And maybe I'm bringing my own baggage to the table there but oh my god do I recognize that mindset and how much I kept secret to myself for so many years because I didn't know how to perfectly explain it and the first attempt to try didn't magically fix everything, so obviously nobody would really care about me. And that's not true!!! People cared so much!!! They were trying to move mountains to help me!!! I just couldn't see it because my mental health was in the toilet!!! So that's the viewpoint I went into this book with and I feel like it's one that was extremely rewarding, especially with the ending, when Iskat goes to find her birth family and it's all just empty and meaningless to her, like, yeah, that's exactly the ending that tied it all together for me, that it was about searching for some magic external answer that didn't exist, rather than the hard work of looking inside myself and asking what path I wanted to take in life and what it would take for me to do to get on that path. (This is why the Obi-Wan bit hit so hard for me, too, in retrospect. Initially, I was just excited about the shout out to a fave character, but looking back, it's another instance where Iskat thinks, oh, if only I'd had this perfect Master, things would have been different for me, and I would bet money that Obi-Wan couldn't have been a magic fix for her, either, any more than Iskat's birth family couldn't be a magic fix for her or her mother.) Like, I'm not saying the Jedi were perfect. I think they were trying, like Sember wasn't really a good match for Iskat, but that doesn't mean she was insincere or didn't care, she genuinely cared deeply about Iskat, her dying words were about how much good she saw in Iskat. And I think looking at Force-sensitivity as an analogy for neurodivergence adds a lot of depth to how, when we struggle, sometimes we forget that other people are real people who struggle with their own mental health journeys. Iskat is a character that I felt dearly for, because I saw so much of myself in her and felt her pain and recognized a lot of the negative paths of thought she was going down and I never wanted anything but good things for her, even as she made all these terrible choices or didn't care about the people she hurt beyond how it made her feel guilty. Like, I think what really made me love this book is that mentally ill/neurodivergent people can be an actual hot mess, can be wrapped up in their own pain, pain that is genuine and real and deserves help and sympathy for, instead of perfect innocent lambs who never did anything wrong. (*laughs* I admit, I'm probably bringing a lot of my own baggage to this book, which is why it's one I'm hesitant to recommend or even write much meta for, because I feel so strongly about it and don't want to push out other interpretations when it's such a complicated, nuanced matter to approach these topics in our space psychic wizard books! So if anyone disagrees, understood and fair, this more than usual is one that I'm coming at from a very specific direction.)
I'm going through my screencaps from Inquisitor: Rise of the Red Blade and it really kills me that I can't recommend this book to more people because it's from the point of view of a character falling to the dark side, so on the surface it comes across as very Jedi critical, but as someone who constantly keeps a hawk's eye out for what the other Jedi say and do so I can put it in my citations project, let me tell you, this book drives me absolutely up the wall with how much I was handed on a silver platter for how it's structured. It's a book that's set from the point of view of a troubled young Padawan, Iskat Akaris, and everything in her thoughts is about how she does try to let go of her anger, which she finds very difficult, but she also constantly craves battle and violence and seeks to find ways to justify that. She's offered by multiple people to find avenues to help her, but she always turns away from them, because they're not exciting enough for her. She never tells anyone directly of her struggles and any time another Jedi expresses support, somehow it's never good enough, she assumes it's not real empathy (because she thinks they wouldn't agree with her feelings--she doesn't want to be an archivist, she wants to fight, she doesn't want to take a regular position with the children in the creche--despite that she was really good with them and felt calmer afterwards--because she wants to be out in the galaxy fighting), and when she makes mistakes, she looks to justify why it wasn't her fault (she doesn't actually care about the civilians her actions hurt, she just cares that Adi and Yoda are telling her she has to be more careful). She's offered mentorship multiple times, by Jocasta, by Josk, Master Klefan talks to her frequently, Adi and Yoda make a point to tell her that two specific Masters are available to speak to, the Council offers her a position in the creche because they think she'd do well there--but that's not the excitement she craves, it's not the admiration for her battle skills that she wants, so she turns away from it. She's offered a position that's clearly very dear to them, it comes with multiple compliments and that they say it's meant to be beneficial to her as well (with the implication of how much it calmed her), and yet she sees it as a demotion, because it's not a mission with action and fighting. Everything that is the opposite of what a Jedi needs to seek. And it's done with such deftness to Iskat's point of view that, if you're not paying attention, it might seem like she is justified in these things. But when you look beyond her, you see how hard the Jedi are trying to help her, how many hands they hold out to her, and I want to write entire essays about this book but arrrghhhh I'm probably the only one who read this book in this specific way and who still has tolerance left for unreliable narrators who unfairly criticize the Jedi, but I can see the consistent pattern of how compassionate they are beyond it, so I feel I'd just be yelling into the void even more than I usually do, so instead I just sit with my feelings, like, I enjoyed this book through this lens, but it's a lens that scrapes a lot of people's nerves raw, so I can't blame them, but also oh man there's so much to chew on in this book and I just have to delete these caps as I make my way through my backlog. Arrrghhh.
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Tag Game to Better Know You. Send this to people you’d like to know better!
Thank you @demondean-writes for tagging me.
What book are you currently reading?
Um, I... Damn it's been so long since I've read a truly original book that I can't even remember which one I read last, embarrassing, but I'm hopelessly lost in the world of fanfiction.
What’s your favorite movie you saw in theaters this year?
Fantastic Beasts: The Secrets of Dumbledore, but having only been to the cinema twice this year, there aren't many to choose from. And regardless, I still love that universe.
What do you usually wear?
Leggings and a long sweater at home, and jeans and blouse otherwise, but I spend the vast majority of time in my work uniform at the hospital.
How tall are you?
About 165 centimeters, and what kind of question is that? At least it wasn't age or weight.
What’s your Star Sign? Do you share a birthday with a celebrity or a historical event?
Taurus, and I don't share a birthday with any celebrities I know or care about. I was born on the day Bram Stoker's Dracula was first published, which I find very fitting.
Do you go by your name or a nickname?
I've had nicknames, but my family and friends mostly use my name or close to it. I love being called pet names though, Darlin, Dear One and My Evil Queen, are some of my favorites.
Did you grow up to become what you wanted to be when you were a child?
It depends on interpretation. I've dreamed of being an author since I was a teenager, but I don't know if being a fanfiction author applies, and I've loved vampires for just as long, and today I work as a professional licensed one.
Are you in a relationship? If not, who is your crush if you have one?
I am married to a wonderful man, but surprisingly I am also in love with the sweetest most wonderful girl. Please don't ask how that works, it is a bit complicated.
What’s something you’re good at vs. something you’re bad at?
I don't think there's anything I'm really good at, average maybe. I am, on the other hand, terrible at giving criticism.
Dogs or cats?
Cats, definitely. They are independent, beautiful and have a mind of their own.
If you draw/write or create in any way, what’s your favorite picture/line/etc from something you created this year?
I'm quite proud of what I created with my fic <ahref="https://archiveofourown.org/works/34837057/chapters/101951442">Haunt me for a year</a> and especially the July chapter holds a special place in my heart.
A blinding light engulfed him, and a mighty crash shook him free. It sent, with a force so violent that it felt as if he was flooded and engulfed by the Force itself, over the edge and into an ecstatic endless sea of white-hot pleasure, whose waves carried him away from reality.
Obi-Wan followed him. Their souls merging and bonding unbreakable. In a long timeless moment they existed as one in the Force.
What’s something you would like to create content for?
Rare pairings, preferably as treesomes with Obi-Wan and Anakin.
I have been working on a fic with Mace Obi-Wan and Anakin for a long time, but it takes time.
What’s something you’re currently obsessed with?
Does it count as currently when it's been going on for years? I'm obsessed with Star Wars fanfiction. The fandom chose me and I've been kriffing stuck ever since.
What’s something you were excited about that turned out to be disappointing this year?
I can't think of anything, but maybe that's because I never set very high expectations, so as to not be disappointed.
What’s a hidden talent of yours?
I don't think I have one, again, very average and boring.
Are you religious?
In a way, yes, but it's difficult to explain.
What’s something you wish to have at this moment?
More time, I always want more time.
I would like to tag @obimanletkenobi, @miko-mikke, @h2oblivious, @kittimau, and of cause my Sweet Heart @zolitasposts
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