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PLEASE PLEASE MEGADUMP THE ARASOL!!! PLEAAASEE MR BEESCAKE I AM ON MY KNEES BEGGING YOU
HFHGHD GLADLY aaa i’ve been adding notes to it here and there for months but just hesitant to post it bcs im 🧍♂️🧍♂️🧍♂️🧍♂
also this is just my own takeaway of the events, it doesn’t necessarily comply to the Ultimate Truth of Canon-Alignment or represent the actual facts of what hussie intended! v sentimental smh but hopefully its still interesting to read
i love when characters inform each other by proximity, it's one of my fave things to see in media :') it feels even more significant when two characters deliberately choose to stick together, so that when one operates, you can tell the other is similarly aligned in associative solidarity.
sollux is a keystone of this trope — whoever he aligns with is a wordless statement, a nod of approval. this stood out to me bcs the main four humans were alr friends by default, but once you reach hivebent you realize the trolls can actively choose who they want to hang out with.
and as we all know, after assessing every troll's biases/loyalties, sollux is the only one who maintains his selective preference for innately Good 👍 people.
aradia is such a beautiful character honestly, she evokes such incredible feelings in me. she might not have been consistently written with care but the best parts of her character are truly stunning. i think it's easy to remember sollux as the self-sacrificing one bc he's so open about it (and his friends frequently react to his Moments) but when you compare him to aradia, it's always struck me
how much more. raw it is
to be so alone as an agent of time, having to orchestrate immeasurably harrowing events nobody understands or gives a fuck about
with your role painted in the story as one who must tend to the needs of the narrative, responsible to match every next note
because when you're given the capabilities, it becomes your duty to carry it out.
it becomes expected of you to keep experimenting and arranging the machinations to work for everyone, dusting off hundreds of necessary failures to keep going
and having to be so unwavering in your drive knowing miserably that there's no one who can help you but yourself.
or alternatively: to make things fun! so other people won't think twice about letting you go off on your own.
sure she's had some very good buds, notably thanks to Team Charge v Team Scourge antics.
and yet, at the end of the day, the one friend that kept choosing her time and time again was the friend with the highest standards.
i can see why people like to define arasol as moirails/matesprits but surprisingly i find the nondescript, unlabeled aspect of their relationship more straightforward to understand.
there's no shortage of people who would accommodate sollux. most of the surviving trolls are his oldest friends bcs he’d chosen them well. his transparency with his feelings had built him strong friendships that won’t falter or break, regardless of how much of a dick he can be. they’ve already seen and accepted him at his worst, and they still like him for who he is.
contrast that with aradia, who'd been so approachable, friendly and reliable in her exchanges it was super fun to talk to her. but the moment she became depressed, all her connections broke down.
her friends became hesitant to interact with her (until she became god tier, “happy” and amicable again) because her gloom and resignation didn’t serve them. she dealt with it alone.
there’s def something of note here abt the disparity between the way male & female characters are written+perceived in homestuck (esp parallel arasol with davejade) but i won’t go into that lmaoo
with this in mind i like to think of sollux as a gift to her, a loyal companion given to complement and commend her resolve. she's capable of doing so much alone but hussie took the time to build her and sollux's relationship as one of a unit; a set.
the ambiguity of their status does complicate things, but i do believe it makes sense with their characters. aradia's relationship with romance is a rocky one, the dubious stringalong equius had with her is a pointed reminder that her feelings of attraction are ultimately controlled by the author writing her.
unlike the other trolls who can openly address and own up to their crushes, aradia had romantic emotions forced upon her (especially when hussie implies 'she kissed equius back on her own volition'). and it seems like her character is so intrinsically neutral abt attraction that even when forced by the almighty powers above, she's unable to retain it wholly.
however, looking back to pre-game when she could actually "choose" her own feelings, she did have a crush on sollux.
their soft spots for each other were so obvious to the point where other people could see it.
taunting aside, when vriska comments on their unit as bf/gf it actually informs the audience that arasol's relationship is romantic in nature despite not aligning with the quadrant system.
even while dead, aradia could still describe her care for sollux, expressing that she would like to see him happy. if they had more time to explore their relationship on alternia, it's possible they could've settled in a quadrant once they grew older.
but going back to the lack of labels, their dynamic was affected once more when aradia became god tier.
to me, her ascension was both the perfect culmination and possible closure of her character. it's the light at the end of her journey toiling through countless of timelines where she had to actively assess and participate. that's why it's cool to see her being silly and having fun giving guidance, passively exploring and watching other people do their parts.
and yet the joy of her freedom makes it hard to explore further introspection. if we take her by her word, she'd already come to terms with the hurt she's been through and forgiven those involved.
i can't help feeling attuned to how impersonal and detached it can be, to devote and meld your identity so completely with your designated position as Maid of Time until you've become hard for your old friends (and even some readers!) to personally connect to.
idk post-canon but i assume there’s some degree of similarity to be bridged here with aradia's god tier and how the hs2 humans' Ultimate forms was described as a consolidation of all their possibilities. since aradia's classpect is inherently of service to Time, going god-tier may have elevated her beyond personhood with the "game construct" possessing her entirely. sollux doesn't realize the extent of it bcs he's still mortal, but a part of him may have subconsciously understood this.
i think there is a core aspect to aradia that was lost to the dehumanizing glory of god tier — a core aspect that may have contained an element of why sollux enjoyed talking to her in the first place.
to him, aradia hadn't just been a nice girl, she was a cool girl. despite not having much in common, he's still willing to chill next to her so she's not alone while she does what needs to get done.
back on alternia, they held a mutual and equal-level regard for each other that could've definitely settled into something permanent. but now, he's placed himself in a position where he can be kept around or left behind at will. the parameters of the relationship are largely in aradia's court, so any label she suggests to identify their relationship with he's likely to accept.
but that's why it's so difficult to label it. because god tier aradia may not necessarily Want quadrants or relationship labels. rather than the initial romantic attachment, their commitment to each other had evolved into one fundamentally of companionship.
no label? ok fine. no matter what, he still thinks she's a good soul worth latching on to. the best, actually. aradia > everyone else.
even if it gets stilted at times. there's an unexpected struggle to connect when sollux's go-to default for talking points is his feelings about things, and aradia may not want to talk about emotions all the time.
not to mention god tier aradia became an observer, especially of chaos. but sollux's avoidance of involvement comes partially from his innate pressure to get involved if something goes wrong. and he can't always tell when something goes wrong, because aradia doesn't mind if things go wrong anymore.
it's a non-negotiable preference that causes them to take the occasional time apart, a new boundary that wouldn't have existed before the game and aradia's god tier.
but just like how his friends tolerated his moods, sollux accepts aradia as she is. with no quadrants, their connection doesn't break down because there's no implicit romantic expectations to be disappointed by or resentful over.
sometimes when i see hs content that deliberately distances sollux from aradia, i assume this is the dissonance people might have felt. people might find it "easier" to be cynical about them bcs of this strange tension.
but idc lmao. grab that shit by the neck
lack of easy resolutions and cleanly tied ribbons is pretty standard of homestuck and imo it doesn't make arasol's dynamic any less incredible. with the right affection and consideration, there's still so much potential to develop the nuance of their relationship outside of the popular quadrant-based depictions.
hs has a lot of really great character compatibilities but the way aradia and sollux are in their own special orbit is why i can write this much about them in the first place. it's that frail innocence between first loves that makes it so sweet to me, two kids who grew up too fast playing guesswork without being clear where they're going.
ultimately i do think you're meant to feel a little tragedy for just how much they care for each other, even if they can't quite establish it in simple terms.
maybe they keep taking breaks to progress their own paths. maybe they remain as anchor partners while seeing other people. but even if you decide to separate them, they're still (awkwardly) texting each other updates all the while. and when they reunite it feels like coming home.
and well. more than anything, i like to believe that they do want to be exclusive.
they're just afraid. after all, they're still learning how to love, beyond the projections of the foursquare quadrant system they had inadvertently distanced themselves from since young.
they might not have everything figured out, but they'll get there eventually if you just hold them together and write them there.
optional post-canon segment:
one of the limitations of main hs is that (monogamous) relationships are often written as the go-to solution to wrap up character growth; it's an easy "patch" to imagine characters getting their happy ending because they have a partner, and those who don't end up with someone don't get that closure (most notably jade).
hs2 reaffirms this by suggesting that aradia's character cannot progress without letting sollux go, because happily settling in a relationship automatically locks your potential.
that pathetic panel of sollux staring emptily into the sky is still my fave hs2 spoiler ngl i find the impact of their parting so emotionally provoking precisely bcs they were written in original hs to be each other's forever, coming back together again and again
but now, they're subject to the decisions of the post-canon authors who might choose to deviate from that.
it's not new for them to part, but now there's an underlying worry that her dropping him off this time might be the last time. while i think the prospect of shattering their stability to make them grow separately sounds fun on paper, no amount of me desperately hoping for a good execution is gonna guarantee it
idk. i guess prediction-wise im expecting sollux in classic dramatic-hs2 fashion to tell dave to back off aradia LMAO. otherwise it's just gon be sollux and karkat pathetically watching aradia and dave from a distance swimming in their unresolved feelings for narratively-powerful time players smh obvs it sounds corny as hell but who knows its still plausible
srsly tho i hope they take the opportunity to develop arasol's relationship in a fresh direction that doesn't hurt me too badly...... and i hope they force sollux out of his comfort zone. i like watching him struggle :-)
#sorry if this isnt fully accurate heh its just my personal impressions/feelings#despite best efforts to simplify my annotations the wall of text still ended up massive#there's also a comparison i wanted to make abt characters who “broke up” from romantic expectations losing a lot of what they had before#dave(sprite)/jade‚ karkat/terezi‚ dirk/jake etc = which is why i think arasol was rescued by hussie on purpose. arasol endgame truth#ngl there mightve been more moments that shouldve been mentioned but i have no memories of... limited cloud storage#long post#ask#anon#homestuck#arasol#aradia megido#sollux captor#arapostings#2024#vioart#not disqualifying acespec/qpr reading i think its also possible :]#if anything i dont understand fanon killing off aradia for their sollux ships haiyaaa why is this trope so damn popular#every time i open a slkt fic and aradia is dead i go outside and burn a tree. global warming could not come sooner#slkts who treat aradia like dvkts treat jade…. i punt u football style
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The thing about Clone Wars is like I get that it had over 100 episodes and it's a lot and not everyone has seen every episode like I have and not everyone has rewatched the series as many times as I have. But at a certain point after you read enough takes that blatantly ignore or misremember what's actually in the damn show it's like okay I think maybe you need to take a break from the fanfic and refresh yourself on the source material.
#i mean this is a problem with sw fandom in general#but i feel like it especially happens with tcw a lot cause it has way more episodes than any of the other shows#meaning it's easier for people to forget things#add people getting their info from popular fanon tropes on top of that and you get this mess#shut up tristan
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btw i automatically start lending whatever it is you're saying about artificer's character significantly less credence when you she/her them
#lore pearl#artificer#REAL artificerheads acknowledge the rather misogynistic tropes associated with the broad perception of them as feminine#<- that tag is mostly a joke. but yeah. i do think there's a conversation to be had#about the tropes associated with fem!artificer. but even aside from that#my brain at least automatically takes it as a sign that your 'analysis' is through the lens of popular fanon or hc#as opposed to strict canon#also im just petty and dont like the headcanon#.......#.... okay. maybe im mostly just petty.
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at this point if I see a character in comics having ooc obsession with Tim or talking about how much of the bestest best he is I just imagine it's a fic written by Tim himself and it makes it somehow bearable
This is what I do but more for fanfics if I'm reading a really good fic but tims just so ooc I just say Tim ghost wrote it - the spirit of Tim drake himself came down and possessed the author - it makes me laugh and helps me actually enjoy the rest of the fic
#ask#anon#like i dont read many batfam fanfics anymore#just bc i know i get easily annoyed at popular fanon tropes#but sometimes i will come across one that i really like the premise of#and if something like random tim sad time appears#i can just say ah tim wrote this and ignore it
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I have such qualms with the idea of pit madness that is super popular in most fics because like…obviously is completely veers away from anything even remotely canon from the comics, and it’s usually used only in reference to Jason as a way to quickly resolve the issue of his violent actions instead of actually addressing them.
But also I think that, if you’re going to use it as a plot device, it’s being severely under-utilised. Like, I think that taking the idea of pit madness to its logical extreme and applying it to all characters that have used a Lazarus pit would make for an incredibly interesting story. It has a lot of potential as a trope, considering that the general idea boils down to ‘imagine if mind control specifically targeted your strongest emotions (especially anger) and forced you to act on them’ and I think that more authors who are going to use it need to lean into it instead of using it as a throwaway explanation for Jason’s actions.
Utilising a highly popular fanon trope in your fic is fine, but I think that if you’re going to use it we need to stop ignoring what it could potentially offer for a story.
#I also think that it would reduce the issue of people#using pit madness as an excuse for jasons actions#if we were to focus more on the different ways in which this trope can be interpreted#or how it can be used within a story#why are all my authors ignoring this opportunity to experiment with this idea#do something fun with it#also I do acknowledge that most of the people who use pit madness in their fics likely don’t even know that it’s a fanon creation#I think a lot of people see it’s popularity and assume that there is comic evidence for it#and don’t have enough knowledge about comics to be aware that there isn’t#pit madness alone doesn’t annoy me as a trope#the fact that it’s primarily used as a quick fix-it does though#I mean jasons actions towards tim kind of get glossed over a lot#in order to reunite jason and his family#I think pit madness is just a way of justifying that#batman#batfam#dc#jason todd#tim drake#dick grayson#bruce wayne#red hood#under the red hood#batfamily#dcu
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I watched the latest Spiderverse movie and I suddenly realised...
Pavitr is Fanon!Dick Grayson and Hobie is Fanon!Jason. O_O
#spider-man: across the spider-verse#Nightwing#Red Hood#Pavitr Prabhakar#Hobie Brown#Dick Grayson#Jason Todd#tropes will trope#no wonder Fanon!Dick and Fanon!Jason are so popular#parallels
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I need the hunger games to go back to no longer being relevant to most people because I keep getting genuinely heated over other people's opinions on a ya series and it's embarrassing
#STOP TREATING THINGS THAT I KNOW ARE JUST POPULAR FANON AS CANON PLEASE#I CAN LITERALLY TELL YOU WHERE HALF OF THESE THEORIES AND TROPES COME FROM OH MY GOD#BECAUSE THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A YEAR SINCE I WAS 10 THAT I'VE BEEN NORMAL ABOUT THE HUNGER GAMES#AND IT'S SO INCONSEQUENTIAL BUT SHUT UP ABT FOUR NOT BEING A CAREER DISTRICT!!#IT'S CAREER STATUS IS ESSENTIAL TO KATNISS'S REALIZATION OF WHO THE REAL ENEMY IS!!#and also you know. Finnick and Annie being much more interesting characters if they're careers and had to unlearn their indoctrination#as I know I've complained about on here before lol#also just bad interpretations of parts of tbosas#and the obvious misogyny when it comes to how some characters are treated like Cato vs Coral in the movies#like I know most of the Cato bitches only liked him bc they found his actor attractive#and them genuinely hating a similar character played by a woman (who is not traditionally feminine)... girl. I see what's going on#and I hate being annoyed by it bc it doesn't matter. but I literally am and it sucks lol
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I never really liked this narrative that Satoru would be better off dead so that he can be with Suguru.
The idea just feels like it's devaluing Gojo's other relationships. This idea that Suguru and Satoru were both completely despondent and lost without each other is such a pervasive idea in fandom that just isn't seen in the text.
They had lives and family outside of each other. People they loved and cared about and who loved and cared about them in return. This idea that Gojo should die to be with Geto really feels narrow in scope and it gives the message that people who have lost and suffered can only be truly happy in death, rather than forging their own happiness afterwards with others.
#midnight seance#geto suguru#gojo satoru#no hate to anyone who likes the trope I see why it's popular in fanon#just in canon? I don't like the idea for Gojo's character. I think it would be a very bitter end for his arc#to just say all of his love and his experiences with his students and other friends like Shoko and Utahime#aren't worth as much or as important than Suguru. I guess I just don't like this fanon idea that Suguru and Satoru#just couldn't function without the other#feels very hollow and dismissive of the writing and thought Gege put into them and their relationships
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Theyre going to think I like canon and purely canon if I keep going on like this
#i. despite my many complaints. do enjoy comics. and going into the Comic Reading Fandom#there is a shocking amount of people who are purely in the fandom but have never interacted with the source#while i do believe its fine to dabble in something you haven't seen the source for yet but plan to#being a creating active presence in fandom for something youre not a fan of. just doesn't sit with me#its just a bit baffling. to be a fan of the fandom amd never touch the canon#like lifelong christians who attend every service and judge others based on gods word. who have never even read the full bible.#its just all the pastors word and stories n verses they grew up with#thats exactly how i see it I fear#fanon dynamics and tropes heavily overwhelm the canon. and i tend to prefer the canon. so it gets frustrating#not to mention how many popular ones completely flip characters. reinforce stereotypes. have even more confusing timelines. etc#its like the online fan equivalent of years of domestication and breeding that turned wolves to pugs#not that extreme but you get me#i mess with canon. i like to get silly with it. i like to fuck around#plenty of things i dont like i Will ignore or rewrite! or make an au where i can do whatever on earth i want#i dont respect canon or think its the end all be all and if you step one foot out of line of canon ill maul you like an angry dog#its just like! maybe read the one singular comic issue youre about base your entire interpretation on the fanon version of#this is ending in just me complaining about titans tower yeah. sorry. its the prime example i fear#but at least its easy to filter out#man! if i just had a way to filter things out better..#sometimes it reaches the point where i consider just blocking the entire tim tag. sorry tim#i Will uplift the community i desire instead of focusing on my hatred and complaining!!#i just need to get out of art block and find cool blogs to follow that Get Me to help me out first!!#unfortunately i have a really weird complex about following people especially if they followed me first!!!#not sure what thats about!!#but ill get to the other things!!!#i am also just a complainer though !#and i get into arguments alot without realizing it because i love noting every detail and correcting people!!#i tried to put every william mention and appearance from tse in a google doc. and with ralpho. thsoe got much easier when i got#digital copies of the fnaf books. but what im saying is i LOVE having all the facts n details abt my blorbos. esp in over detailed notes.fu#havijg all the references on hand! and sharing my precious beautiful knowledge. carefully noted bc my poor memory. very delightful. fun!
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I so badly want to write a hs fic that just feeds into the worst fanon cliches and stereotypes of every character
#Dreamrtxt#Pair the spares cotton candy#fanon Bro#jake is a beefy jock who is stupid#jades personality is completely divorced from her actual canon self to be a tough girl i was raised with brothers trope#dave is a stupid popular kid#john is a nerdy bitch boy bottom w a smart mouth#Karkat is also that#Rose as exposition ALWAYS. Hashtag mother of the group#Roxy’s alcoholism is a personality trait instead of a serious probme#She’s also a party girl and the MOTHER of the group#i cant think of anything else atm
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Im seriously begging one piece writers to tag fics where you’ve made Mihawk Zoro’s dad because if I get jumpscared by Zoro’s backstory in another fic I’m going to scream
#I just want to be able to avoid reading headcanons I don’t like#I would never harrass a writer over it but it does immediately prevent me from leaving kudos or comments on your fic#Im this 🤏close to just never reading an au again because this happens so often#disagreeing with a popular fanon trope is so hard#rambles
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just needed to say but its 100% ok to write characters out-of-character.
if you craft a version of a character that is completely different from the canon character its not necessarily bad writing and that fact alone doesn't make you a bad writer in any capacity.
its ok to use a preexisting character as a starting place to write your own characters even if you're not changing names or changing a lot about them. I've read and adored a bunch of fics where the characters are definitely not like they are in canon and if i saw that version of the character in the show id be so confused. but I'm decidedly not watching the show, im reading your fic and im completely immersed in your version of the character.
using characters as a vessel to make your own story based on your own experiences is not in any way inferior to writing fix-its of canon or adhering exclusively to canon characterizations. not everyone will enjoy it or read it because no tropes or ways of writing will appeal to everyone, but there will always be someone that enjoys your work and appreciates what you do.
writing is fucking difficult no matter which angle you choose to take. and theres no trope or plot or personal experience that you can't write for any character because there are no laws of writing that say you have to stick to your source material.
its still a good idea to tag if you're characters don't adhere to canon characterizations just because like any trope your reader wants to be able to know what they'll be reading beforehand (and it'll help clarify that the mischaracterization is not an accident you forgot to edit but just how you chose to write this character)
basically your writings are still good and valid even if it wouldn't happen in the show. in some cases "they wouldn't do that in the show" is a damn compliment.
#i wrote this with steddie in mind but it applies to most anything methinks#because i canon characterization for steve and fanon don't always line up but that's not a problem#i love that we like exploring different possibilities for his character from what his parents are like to his relationship with the party#and this applies to smut too it doesnt fucking matter how you wanna write it cause we havent seen them have gay sax so its not like we know#and even if we did it doesn't matter! write them however you want dammit#and especially when writing about serious stuff like if you're projecting your experience with eds or chronic pain or abuse or depression#onto a character who doesn't explicitly have that experience#sharing your experience realistically does more good for you and the readers than trying to make the character canon-compliant#and not to say everyone has to like the thongs you write. no writing will make everyone happy. even the most critical acclaimed works dont#make everyone happy (there are people who don't like arcane for crying out loud and thats the most exceptional/adored show I've ever seen)#steddie tumblr#because those are the only fic i read these days#and we have a lot of different popular tropes that aren't canon compliant and i want you guys to know you're epic and cool#fic writing#writing rambles#writing rant#writing positivity#devon thinks sometimes
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you guys ever dip your toes back into old fandoms out of curiosity and immediately want to die
#is there anything worse than widespread/popular fanon. i don't think so#like having fun is one thing i also like to be delulu BUT when people treat popular fanon as sacred and like. shit on people who dare not#adhere to it. i'm always like................ ?#babygirl you made that up. (which again i think is w/e.). but someone is not 'reading the text wrong' if they don't agree with you.#like you know when people literally treat it as the 'better' version of the text. or way the better way to engage w a text#and they get so hostile with it. i've even had fic comments before like 'i don't agree with this part bc my headcanon is __ but i enjoyed#the rest of it. next time you should _______' and it's like ????? next time you should shut up#i guess also bc more often than not fanon is just like. less complex versions of canon characters now featuring 20 tropes!#which might've been fun when i was 15 but not now. the way i approach stuff is just different now lmao. but anyway#confirms that i likely wont ever return to being involved w [redacted]. despite the special interest brainworms.
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AND I WILL STAY IN MY LANE AND I WILL NOT BE THE FUN POLICE AND I WILL NOT TELL PEOPLE CANON PROVED A SHIP WAS UNSUSTAINABLE AND I WILL NOT SAY SOMETHING ABOUT PEOPLE SHIPPING AESTHETIC STEREOTYPES INSTEAD OF THE ACTUAL CHARACTERS AND I WILL BE SO NORMAL ABOUT HOW THIS FANDOM CHARACTERIZES SHIPS BETWEEN ITS PROTAGONIST AND CHARACTERS THEY CAN PROJECT ONTO.
#IT'S NOT AS BAD AS THE NEED TO SHOEHORN H*B INTO EVERYTHING AFTER THE SHOW AND MAKE HIM SPECIAL#BUT GOD DAMN THEY REALLY REDUCED A FEMALE CHARACTER TO ADORABLE PINK ACCESSORY TO THE LEAD--#i must both characters and seeing this dynamic be reduced to popular reductive shipping tropes is.#like if that's what sparks joy whatever but i can't do it. i can't see my favs reduced to fanon tropes again.#out of stories
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Do your own fucking thing
Do your own fucking thing
Do your own fucking thing
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Do your own fucking thing
#fanfic#fanfiction#art#fanart#writing#writing nightmare#fanfic writers#writer's problems#hello i'm here to remind you that you can fucking do what you want#want to portray that trope? do your own fucking thing!#want to give your own spin to that character? do your own fucking thing!#don't want to follow some particular piece of fanon? do your own fucking thing!#don't want to include that popular trope people seem really into? do your own fucking thing!#want to write that wild AU you've been thinking about? do your own fucking thing!#kinda don't jive with some characterisation points the fandom loves? do your own fucking thing!#you're free!#to do#your own fucking thing!#and chances are people will like it if you give it some heart!#so go! be sincere! follow your inspiration!#do! the! thing!#(but also don't give people shit for liking other things yeah you feel)
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It's going to suck for you when you read council plates and it's good
#council plates#anon posts#I love to toot my own horn#For good reason too I've been at the writing game since I was 9 years old#Sorry to inform you that I am both gifted and an asshole#I use my god given talents to write Toontown guro out of pure spite#For popular fanon tropes
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