#this I not meant to hate on aces or aroaces btw

[confused-canid]

Me and my stupid ass trying to decipher what someone meant by saying "Aro/ace" when talking about the general aspec community and aros and aces and if that means that they're practically the same thing to them and interchangeable and they just do not care about aroallos because aroaces are seen as "pure"

Or if they meant "aro and/or ace"

Y'all NEED to remember that aroace is NOT the umbrella term for both aros and aces

chat. Idk just say and/or please????? Plz 🥺??????

- Local aroallo

[ophii]

slowly offers you my pjo ocs.... accept? all the info you could ever want (/j) about them below cut

in order of the images, l to r, up and down: 1) THE ONE, THE ONLY... JADE SINCLAIR!!! "she, daughter of witchcraft, will reap" ive got a lot to say about her.... 1. shes like the percy of my ocs, the new plaything of the gods after percy becomes an adult. she/they, 14 (12 at the time of her main quest), daughter of hecate, bi. REALLY good at magic and controlling the mist. i mean... shes a hecate kid, shes great at magic and can do almost anything

the little gem on her athame (the weapon) was given to her by her dad, which was given to him by hecate. it kind of forms paths for her while shes fighting, resembling the whole crossroads hecate thing... shes able to call upon hellhounds by whistling!!! her strongest magic is related to night/the moon, so dark magic, you could say. her fatal flaw is kindness, which might be surprising based on her looks and abilites. shes too trsuting, kind, and isnt a big fan of killing. also, alexeis gf!!! btw all of her super cool magic stuff (the paths, whistling, etc) has cooldowns

part of the quest trio also i wrote something for the first prophecy but technically its not a poem so??? does it count?? idk: When night falls, the child of magic must seek out a key. With a child of tricks and a child of sleep, She, daughter of witchcraft, will reap. Lunionem* in hand, a stone to guide, Follow the moonlight through the night, Down to Hades, and with friends to help set her right, She'll find the key and seal the fight. * her athame, which is a knife used in rituals!! 2) "a child of tricks" NATHAN "NATE" TRICKER!!! hermes kid, obvi... he/him, 15 (13 at time of main quest), bi. really good at manipulation, pranking, and tricking people (who wouldve thought?) gets compared to luke a LOT, as hes kind of a big brother to all the campers who are younger than him (he is basically a better luke tbh) he hates the comparison though (he didnt even know the guy!!!). nate's fatal flaw is feelings of inferiority. his sword is meant to represent hermes' caduceus and i probably spelt that wrong but whateva. part of the quest trio. 3) kiki, the latest one i made. she has no last name for now lol. dionysus kid, can instill madness into people. she/they/xe, 17, pan. not much to say about them tbh. fatal flaw is not taking things seriously lol 4) MY SON ALEXEI ARKWRIGHT!! hephaestus kid, got burnt lol SKILL ISSUE!! a nerd... he/him. hes 14, demiboy, ace, and omni. good at forgery, a bit skilled at sewing though thats probably not a hephaestus thing. jades bf (his failboy swagger captivated her). autistic and has ocd. everyone has adhd and dyslexia tho obvi. fatal flaw is hesitation. 5) "a child of sleep" PHOEBE DREMA!! hypnos kid, 13 (11 at time of mian quest), aroace, sapphic, she/her. can control dreams, hypnotize ppl, and can cause people to become eepy. narcoleptic, falls asleep super easily and isnt the best at fighting. HOWEVER, her fatal flaw is ambition/recklessness, as she loves a good challenge/fight. ALSO FUNFACT: her arrows are dipped in water from the river lethe, so when someone gets hit with them, they are both injured AND they forget where they are for about 10 seconds. part of quest trio

[andthebubbles]

heartstopper 2x05-08 (yeah i decided to finish watching it tonight)

heartstopper 2x05

uhhh so nick and charlie just ran off from the louvre without telling the teachers? hahahahahaaha

darcy!!! grrrrr

as much as i don't care for tao and elle's storyline, it was nice when they finally (? i can't remember if they kissed before this) fucking kissed

ben continues to be annoying

not much to say, really

onwarddddd

heartstopper 2x06

sooo the teacher thing is kinda awkward bc like... just... offering to share a single bed like sorta outta nowhere? skjfngkfjg okay well whatever

yay nick finally said it/came out

darcyyyy <3

why the hell was ben at the party and why was he let in when harry wasn't, i thought everyone hated him, and it's not like he seemed to have any friends at the party anyway, he was just standing around and then he made a fuss in the truth or dare game

truth or dare btw when it involves peer pressure like that sucks

i like tao and elle a lot better now that they're together. they're really cute. esp when they kicked charlie out of the toilet even though he needed to pee lol

i know i said the teacher thing was a bit weird but i meant, more like how it seems to be beginning... you'd think two adults who work together would do it a bit more carefully in case it goes pear-shaped?? also i kinda like mr farouk when he hasn't got a stick up his arse lol, and ajayi is fine ofc

aaah nearly forgot to mention: nick's dad is a fucking dickkkk. absent fathers make me so mad

kinda feeling for isaac here. i also don't like kissing people, it's gross, and people put suchhh importance on kissing... is it meant to feel good or...? all it is is just saliva-ey and wet and gross and sometimes you can even smell the saliva which is ew

heartstopper 2x07

okay before i forget to say it, omg why didn't charlie block ben ages ago on insta

i had already seen charlie's speech to ben on tumblr a few days ago so it didn't get me as pumped (it was very good though) but

NICK'S speech at the dinner table SKSJDNFKNGKFJGN THAT got me pumped (for two broad reasons: 1. yeah why care/who gives a fuck when your dad doesn't give a fuck about you, 2. re your dad seeing you twice a year or some shit like that... so i have an aunt who lives in one country, and her husband lives in the neighbouring country, and they probably only see each other like twice a year, and they're not divorced, and like, what the FUCK are you guys doing; my mum told me she used to (or still does) get really sad about it, so, you know, that thing with nick and his dad really hit hard, even though it's not affecting me personally; i'm just so mad at that dickhead uncle)

also i love tori so much, i so wanted her to stab her fork straight down on david's arm instead of just using her fingers. and then i wanted her to play some major prank on david when she was in the bathroom, like how matilda changed her dad's ... hair product thing into bleach

darcy aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah (yeah my mum makes a fuss if i wanna wear a suit too :( ) (she looks gorgeous in a suit btw)

isaac is really going through it huh... like, the bit at the mall/shopping area

(btw so... the UK has sixth form-specific schools? heccc)

heartstopper 2x08

that last scene with nick and charlie!! jdkjgnfkjgkjk

and tara and darcy!!! i felt sorry for tara when she was at the prom but then you also know that darcy's going through some serious shit and... yeah. her home life is awful!! where did she go that night after the prom? i hope tara's parents let her stay over foreverrrr

is tori aroace as well? if we is... could we just have an ace person in s3 if there's an s3...

i detecttt imogen/sahar lol

[rjalker]

Your post is harmful. Your intentions don't matter. You even said yourself that other people besides me have told you that your post is harmful. You don't get to ignore us and keep doubling down on the bigotry.

I did not know what specific thing you were talking about until you told me, and knowing that does not change the harm your original post is still doing. Which you are doubling down on.

No, I did not "choose" to get mad at you "because you happened to not include every experience ever".

Your original post is right there making the blanket statement "btw maybe don’t tag your posts as aromantic/aroace if they’re just about asexuality. and don’t tag your posts as asexual/aroace if they’re just about aromantic. maybe" without any qualifiers at all.

You have been told this is harmful. By multiple people.

If you keep doubling down and insisting you're not harming anyone, then you don't get to be surprised or indignant when people call you an exclusionist, because that is exactly what you're being.

You can't keep saying you have good intentions if your only reaction to people telling you you're harming people is to pretend we're just choosing to get mad to cause problems for you. That's not how acting in good faith works.

You can't say you support non-SAM people and aroaces and then keep doubling down when you're told you're hurting them.

Your intentions do not matter. The affects of your words and actions do. If you have multiple people telling you your original post is harmful and exclusionary, the correct decision if you do not want to be an exclusionist is to listen, and apologize, and do better.

You've now added to the original post

post brought to you by the fact that i saw a fic with an asexual character tagged as aromantic and aroace. not spreading any hateful or exclusionist beliefs here and those that do will be blocked. my account is a safe space for the entire queer community and exclusionism will not be tolerated xx

so you're saying you're not spreading any hateful or exclusionists belief, but here you are, right now, on this reblog, telling me, and all the others who were upset by this, that we're just making up problems out of nowhere.

If you are actually trying to act in good faith and support everyone in the community, then you cannot just insist that anyone who tells you you're hurting people is making problems up for no reason. That's just being a bigot.

Doubling down on bigotry and insisting that no one has anything to be mad about is not how you act in good faith and support other people in your community.

If you want your post to not be criticized for exclusionist ideas, then edit it so that it is completely specific to what specific thing you are criticizing. Making broad sweeping statements like it's still doing, now with an asterisk, is not helpful, especially when, like I said, you just keep insulting everyone who's told you it's harmful.

"I saw a fic tagged aro, but I was really disappointed to see that the character was only asexual and not also aromantic, so please make sure you tag posts properly so people can find what they're looking for" is a good way to phrase it. Not just telling people in a sweeping statement not to tag posts with aro or ace.

canonically47 said in another two reblogs:

also are you fucking stupid. ONE click on my profile, ONE, you see im aroace. how the fuck would i not support MYSELF are you DUMB??????????

uhhh just read a bit of this so like?? happy for you?? sorry that happened idk.. but i said people got my ORIGINAL and MEANT point which is what i edited the post to say. YOU are the ONLY ONE that got mad.

stop using big words dawg youre not scaring me and not being helpful at all to anyone. touch grass

Okay so you just. Really aren't even trying to learn how to listen when people tell you you're being harmful.

Being aroace doesn't mean you can't be hateful towards aroace people or any other aspec people. That's not how bigotry works. You can be any identity and harm people of any identity, including people of that same identity.

I'm not trying to scare you with "big words" I'm trying to explain to you how to avoid spreading bigotry since you say you want to support everyone in the aspec community. You're gonna have to learn at some point how to react responsibly when you are told you're spreading harmful ideas.

btw maybe don’t tag your posts as aromantic/aroace if they’re just about asexuality. and don’t tag your posts as asexual/aroace if they’re just about aromantic. maybe

[inactive334884]

(Note: The twitter post was made by a fan and not Vivziepop, just wanted to make sure that people know that.) Seeing how the Charlastor fandom used to be with how they would attack people who liked Vaggie x Charlie with how they would draw hate gore depicting Vaggie being decapitated because Chaggie fans kept trying to tell them to stop hating on their ship (this shit was actually, I shit you not, popular in the fandom at one point. But because the toxic mlm depictions in the fandom were so (and to this day) so popular the creators did nothing about it despite the fact that some people in the wlw part of the fandom who loved chaggie were even being bullied into wanting to k*ll themselves because of how bad it got The insane charlastor (not all of them, just the awful parts.) part of the fandom even started attacking the creators after they joked about not wanting it to be canon, it was fucking horrendous.) the way that people are with Vaggie, and the lack of highlight towards anything wlw, and the way that the staff treat us (im wlw btw) as more as merch fuel or eyecandy than people for the most part as of the past two years with them only highlighting mainly the toxic mlm depictions instead of you know, the main relationship of the entire franchise, which happens to be wlw (Charlie and Vaggie.)… This fandom just really doesn’t like women. Or at least, how the reality of how women and wlw are outside of cartoon steortypes, since unless its meant for on screen fetishization (looking at you Addict…) people either dont care about it or root for erasure because of how much they dislike them, same for how they treated asexuals when it comes to Alastor in how they would have hissy fits over the fact that he was aroace, harass people who wanted better representation, or purposely mocked that aspect of him within some of their fanart. Even now, the way people treat wlw and ace people within this fandom is still quite awful.

Absolutely horrible. And I hope to fuck that they treat Vaggie better in the show simply because im so sick of people using her as an object to hate on wlw by either erasing her sexuality in the fandom, hating on the fact that her and charlie are together or creating art of her being tortured or cheated on because of their hatred towards lesbians.

So just for that, fuck it.

Happy Pride Month to all of the wlw within the fandom, you deserve to be happy with both yourselves, your relationships, and even your shippings (good or bad, because no matter how bad it is, it doesn’t deserve to be hated on simply for the fact that it involves sapphic women.) as much as everyone else. (Yes, some are most of these just background ones or were just created to be something that pleases male characters, but if they can have it “count” even if the canon depiction is toxic, we can too.)

Happy pride month to those who are aroace that feel happy that Alastor is aromantic and asexual, and no matter what anyone says, you deserve love (or kindness to those who are loveless aro, you matter as well.) and representation.

Fuck the phobes, fuck the people who think that erasure is “ok”, you are all valid and dont let anyone tell you otherwise.

Saw the recent post within the fandom for pride month and…

One are background characters we only see for a few seconds.

The other is a alright relationship.

While one is literal sexual harassment and the other is a relationship that (at multiple times) has leaned on abuse and one of them despises the other outside of sex.

The mlm community of the fandom really have been just eating all the scraps they can get for the past few years, havent they? No care for quality, or if there is even actual love, just “if theres two guys, it must be good!” since this series doesn’t really give mlm that many options in the first place. Just scraps. God, if this were the other way around, people would be flocking posts like these with discourse after discourse like flies, its only because this involves men instead of women that it gets a pass. You like the ship, fine, but dont try to use that as a way to justify the clearly borderline abusive or creepy behaviors of half of the relationships mentioned when it comes to their canon depictions.

The mlm and wlw have not been eating well with this franchise so far, most of it is praise just for them being gay, in a era where more lgbtq+ shows exist than ever before… why are people still acting so desperate as if this is the only gay representation on planet earth? Do they think that this the best that things are going to get? Because its definitely not seeing how things are now, especially since other lgbtq+ indie animations exists out there in the world today that are not getting nearly as much recognition as this series.

Bottom line: There is better out there now, options are not that limited, now is the time for quality, not for picking up scraps.