#third party nationals

[feelo-fick]

it can't be too hard right?

it's easy not to think about things, he tells me i don't think all the time! wait...

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a scene from a fic that i have no clue if ill finish, let alone post, but look i made fanart of my own thing that doesnt even exist :D

[miwiheroes]

anyone else consider that the miwi flashback in episode 4 is going to be from jonathan's perspective (bc a young jonathan was also cast)? being that he's the one that witnessed will's love for mike in season 4? and that's how he knows will is gay? and how maybe he's kind of known all along? because ever since they were 8 years old they've kind of acted like more than friends? beause it's always been them?

OH THE POTENTIALLLL

[queenwendy]

Ffs if I see one more post from fellow leftists talking about how they refuse to vote for Harris because of how much she sucks (and she does) I am gonna lose it. If you want a socialist movement in this fucking country do grassroots organizing, join local organizations, attend protests, set up protests, unionize your workplace, etc. etc. don’t fucking hand the election over to motherfucking Trump because you wanna vote third party for president. I bet Claudia would be an amazing president, and I want third party candidates in all kinds of offices, so run fucking non presidential candidates so we can fix this god forsaken FPTF electoral college system that way we can get an actual leftist president without risking the motherfucking fascist winning! And before you call me a democrat shill, I fucking hate the democratic party but dear god they are moderately better than the republicans. I’ll take more neoliberal hell over a fascist hell any damn day; at least I’m fucking alive.

[tomorrowusa]

Sen. Bernie Sanders visited Stephen Colbert after Trump's seemingly endless acceptance speech at the Republican convention. His refutation of Trump was more succinct as well as more interesting than The Orange One's speech.

In that segment he describes the total lack of attention Republicans devote to climate change – except to give free rein to fossil fuel oligarchs to put even more greenhouse gasses into Earth's atmosphere.

He also outlines how the attention the GOP devotes to working Americans is just superficial bullshit. The GOP opposes raising the minimum wage but favors even more MAGA tax breaks for the filthy rich.

The Bern described our system as a "semi-democracy" because it gives disproportionate power to oligarchic billionaires who can more easily influence the system. He singled out the disastrous 2010 Citizens United v. FEC Supreme Court decision as the main culprit in corrupting our political system.

I would add that there only two ways of overturning Citizens United: 1] a US Constitutional amendment (good luck with that!); 2] a subsequent SCOTUS decision overturning Citizens United. #2 is possible in the medium turn – as long as progressives understand that the main goal in any presidential or senatorial election should be the defeat of Republicans who appoint extremist SCOTUS justices. Casting symbolic "protest" votes for impotent third party candidates who have no chance of winning has only led to more justices like Alito and Kavanaugh.

[solarflare-s]

i think that a lot of people who primarily interact with politics online and/or in relatively small aggressively progressive spaces do not realize how many honest to god moderates there are

and yeah, the politician running for a national office isn't as progressive as you want. but they are not just trying to appeal to you. they are also trying to appeal to your grandmother, who would rather die than vote for a self proclaimed socialist, even if she agrees with their policies in theory

and the thing is, your grandmother and her peers are more likely to vote. even if they don't love the candidate, even if the candidate isn't in the party they usually vote for. they show up. you openly state that you won't vote pragmatically, won't for anyone less than perfect, won't vote for anyone with a less than perfect record.

why should that candidate try to appeal to you?

politicians who hold national offices often have to reach across the aisle and find a solution that is far less than perfect but will do something. someone who won't budge on any issue will not get anything done. which will further the narrative that their party cannot get anything done.

progress is slow and painful and often starts with not letting things get worse

[hang-on-lil-tomato]

THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT! Please share!

if you are considering a third party protest vote, you are PUTTING TRUMP AND HIS CHRISTOFASCISTS BACK IN POWER!

[genericwizard]

Lately my thoughts about kaeven are so. Aware of the consequences about choosing each other and doing it anyway. There are forces outside our control much greater than us, but we hold on for dear life anyway. Through our joy, we are confident we can win.

[girlwarlock]

1: This doesn't mean "oh i don't need to vote bc i live in [insert fairly safe blue state here]" - voting is still important and [insert fairly safe blue state here] only remains "fairly safe blue state" if people actually fcuking vote

2: THIS IS WHY THE NATIONAL POPULAR VOTE IS IRRELEVANT EVERY TIME SOMEONE ON MY DASHBOARD GOES "heh, well, akshually trump lost the popular vote in 2016" THAT DOES NOT MATTER I WANT TO SCREAM -- SOME OF THE STATES HAVE MINUSCULE PROJECTED MARGINS AND SOME STATES ARE WON OR LOST BY FEWER VOTES THAN THE THIRD PARTY VOTE SHARE

[thewritehag]

People who vote 3rd party or don't vote at all "on principle" are the same as sovereign citizens and that is an insult. To illustrate this point, I shall refer to the 1958 classic The Fly

See, the "on principle" people are the man-fly abomination whose hubris got him caught in a gigantic web, the spider is the U.S. government,

and I'm Vincent Price watching as your arrogant foolishness gets you eaten alive by the bloated, corrupt corporate-political hierarchy we live under, knowing I could not save you and knowing you wouldn't deserve to be saved.

The other guy is my friend.

[ereborne]

Song of the Day: December 5

"Funeral Bell" by Phildel

[whenthemarshmallowmettheslayer]

We're mutuals on Tumblr but I saw you re logged that post about no lesser evils/"bootlicking individualistic liberals". Does this mean you don't believe in voting for Biden so Trump doesn't win?

Sorry about the belated reply. I’m going to take your ask as inherent permission to be brutally honest. I will vote for Biden to keep Trump out office if I do not think a third party option is likely to win but I fully admit by doing so I am voting for a man actively aiding a genocide and there will be blood on my hands. That by doing so I am complicit to a genocide even though I have been taking actions to help those in Gaza.

One might be deemed lesser evil but Biden is still evil.

However Trump has made it clear he’s with Israel as well. Either options equals a president who is condoning a genocide.

[see-arcane]

are you winning nano?

NaNoWriMo is a challenge that requires focus, Friend

I lost before I ever began

[lordgoopy]

man shut up abt psyops when third worlders say whether the genocidal senile old man 1 or genocidal old man 2 wins things are fucked. things are not fucked bc of the old cunts but bc the imperial core is fucked bc it is 1)an oligarchy 2)a corporate-military state 3)most of the other people in charge are also already senile and/or incredibly bigoted

[moesartblog]

I’m gonna rant in the tags and then delete this but People on this site are starting once again to put WAY too much faith in the electoral college system

[dontmeantobepoliticalbut]

Former President Donald Trump has appeared to float the idea of running a third-party campaign if increasingly disgruntled Republican leaders don’t get behind his 2024 run for the presidency.

Trump signaled the possibility by posting an article on Truth Social Wednesday ― “The Coming Split,” by Dan Gelernter, in the right-wing journal American Greatness ― promoting just such an option.

Gelernter believes such a move would torpedo Trump’s chances of winning the White House. But it would also wipe out Republican hopes, which Gelernter argued would be a deserving punishment for rejecting the popular former President.

“Do I think Trump can win as a third-party candidate? No,” he wrote. “Would I vote for him as a third-party candidate? Yes. Because I’m not interested in propping up this corrupt [GOP] gravy-train any longer.”

Gelernter claimed that the “Republican machine has no intention of letting us choose Trump again: He is not a uniparty team player. They’d rather lose an election to the Democrats, their brothers in crime, than win with Trump.”

He asked: “What should we do when a majority of Republicans want Trump, but the Republican Party says we can’t have him? Do we knuckle under and vote for Ron DeSantis because he would be vastly better than any Democrat? I say no, we don’t knuckle under.”

Trump has flirted before with the idea of aligning himself with a third party ― apparently largely out of vindictiveness.

ABC White House correspondent Jonathan Karl wrote in his book “Betrayal: The Final Act of the Trump Show” that Trump once told Republican National Committee Chair Ronna McDaniel that he was “done” with the GOP and was starting his own party.

“You cannot do that,” McDaniel reportedly warned him. “If you do, we will lose forever.”

According to Karl, Trump responded: “Exactly — you lose forever without me. I don’t care. This is what Republicans deserve for not sticking up for me.”

Senate Minority Leader Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) last week declared that Trump’s political clout had “diminished.”