#third party nationals

[feelo-fick]

it can't be too hard right?

it's easy not to think about things, he tells me i don't think all the time! wait...

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a scene from a fic that i have no clue if ill finish, let alone post, but look i made fanart of my own thing that doesnt even exist :D

[miwiheroes]

anyone else consider that the miwi flashback in episode 4 is going to be from jonathan's perspective (bc a young jonathan was also cast)? being that he's the one that witnessed will's love for mike in season 4? and that's how he knows will is gay? and how maybe he's kind of known all along? because ever since they were 8 years old they've kind of acted like more than friends? beause it's always been them?

OH THE POTENTIALLLL

[queenwendy]

Ffs if I see one more post from fellow leftists talking about how they refuse to vote for Harris because of how much she sucks (and she does) I am gonna lose it. If you want a socialist movement in this fucking country do grassroots organizing, join local organizations, attend protests, set up protests, unionize your workplace, etc. etc. don’t fucking hand the election over to motherfucking Trump because you wanna vote third party for president. I bet Claudia would be an amazing president, and I want third party candidates in all kinds of offices, so run fucking non presidential candidates so we can fix this god forsaken FPTF electoral college system that way we can get an actual leftist president without risking the motherfucking fascist winning! And before you call me a democrat shill, I fucking hate the democratic party but dear god they are moderately better than the republicans. I’ll take more neoliberal hell over a fascist hell any damn day; at least I’m fucking alive.

[tomorrowusa]

Sen. Bernie Sanders visited Stephen Colbert after Trump's seemingly endless acceptance speech at the Republican convention. His refutation of Trump was more succinct as well as more interesting than The Orange One's speech.

In that segment he describes the total lack of attention Republicans devote to climate change – except to give free rein to fossil fuel oligarchs to put even more greenhouse gasses into Earth's atmosphere.

He also outlines how the attention the GOP devotes to working Americans is just superficial bullshit. The GOP opposes raising the minimum wage but favors even more MAGA tax breaks for the filthy rich.

The Bern described our system as a "semi-democracy" because it gives disproportionate power to oligarchic billionaires who can more easily influence the system. He singled out the disastrous 2010 Citizens United v. FEC Supreme Court decision as the main culprit in corrupting our political system.

I would add that there only two ways of overturning Citizens United: 1] a US Constitutional amendment (good luck with that!); 2] a subsequent SCOTUS decision overturning Citizens United. #2 is possible in the medium turn – as long as progressives understand that the main goal in any presidential or senatorial election should be the defeat of Republicans who appoint extremist SCOTUS justices. Casting symbolic "protest" votes for impotent third party candidates who have no chance of winning has only led to more justices like Alito and Kavanaugh.

[solarflare-s]

i think that a lot of people who primarily interact with politics online and/or in relatively small aggressively progressive spaces do not realize how many honest to god moderates there are

and yeah, the politician running for a national office isn't as progressive as you want. but they are not just trying to appeal to you. they are also trying to appeal to your grandmother, who would rather die than vote for a self proclaimed socialist, even if she agrees with their policies in theory

and the thing is, your grandmother and her peers are more likely to vote. even if they don't love the candidate, even if the candidate isn't in the party they usually vote for. they show up. you openly state that you won't vote pragmatically, won't for anyone less than perfect, won't vote for anyone with a less than perfect record.

why should that candidate try to appeal to you?

politicians who hold national offices often have to reach across the aisle and find a solution that is far less than perfect but will do something. someone who won't budge on any issue will not get anything done. which will further the narrative that their party cannot get anything done.

progress is slow and painful and often starts with not letting things get worse

[lokiinmediasideblog]

I know the USA has a disproportionate impact everywhere else, but it does annoy me when I see people from other Western nations with significantly better safety nets get all high-and-mighty over the election. Especially if said person claimed you shouldn't vote for the alternative. Fuck you with your better healthcare systems.

[hang-on-lil-tomato]

THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT! Please share!

if you are considering a third party protest vote, you are PUTTING TRUMP AND HIS CHRISTOFASCISTS BACK IN POWER!

[genericwizard]

Lately my thoughts about kaeven are so. Aware of the consequences about choosing each other and doing it anyway. There are forces outside our control much greater than us, but we hold on for dear life anyway. Through our joy, we are confident we can win.

[thewritehag]

People who vote 3rd party or don't vote at all "on principle" are the same as sovereign citizens and that is an insult. To illustrate this point, I shall refer to the 1958 classic The Fly

See, the "on principle" people are the man-fly abomination whose hubris got him caught in a gigantic web, the spider is the U.S. government,

and I'm Vincent Price watching as your arrogant foolishness gets you eaten alive by the bloated, corrupt corporate-political hierarchy we live under, knowing I could not save you and knowing you wouldn't deserve to be saved.

The other guy is my friend.

[whenthemarshmallowmettheslayer]

We're mutuals on Tumblr but I saw you re logged that post about no lesser evils/"bootlicking individualistic liberals". Does this mean you don't believe in voting for Biden so Trump doesn't win?

Sorry about the belated reply. I’m going to take your ask as inherent permission to be brutally honest. I will vote for Biden to keep Trump out office if I do not think a third party option is likely to win but I fully admit by doing so I am voting for a man actively aiding a genocide and there will be blood on my hands. That by doing so I am complicit to a genocide even though I have been taking actions to help those in Gaza.

One might be deemed lesser evil but Biden is still evil.

However Trump has made it clear he’s with Israel as well. Either options equals a president who is condoning a genocide.

[lordgoopy]

man shut up abt psyops when third worlders say whether the genocidal senile old man 1 or genocidal old man 2 wins things are fucked. things are not fucked bc of the old cunts but bc the imperial core is fucked bc it is 1)an oligarchy 2)a corporate-military state 3)most of the other people in charge are also already senile and/or incredibly bigoted

[moesartblog]

I’m gonna rant in the tags and then delete this but People on this site are starting once again to put WAY too much faith in the electoral college system

[halfricanloveyou]

white right wing men be stupid as fuck online. “why won’t you debate me? why did you leave our discussion?”

babe, i’m making fun of you. your opinions are so stupid they’re funny and i’m laughing at you. your only rebuttal is to insult me based on things you made up about me. it’s like you’re a little toddler on the playground. you get so mad so easy and that’s funny to me. i’m not trying to listen to what you have to say i’m here to laugh at it.

the fact that they don’t understand that is so funny to me. and then when you leave they’re just like “where’d you go??” lmao i’m playing peek a boo with you. you buffoon.

[girlcalledwhatsername]

USAmerican here. So we have something called the electoral college in the US. Which means people's votes aren't counted individually. Depending on what state you live in, your vote is worth more than other people. States like Nebraska and Wyoming have more votes than states like Maryland or Vermont despite having a far lower population. Those states have conservative majorities and those conservative majorities have more votes than people in liberal (not even leftist) areas. So elections aren't about convincing people in your state to vote, it's about convincing guys in Nebraska. Those guys in Nebraska want a conservative candidate. So the only hope of getting them to not vote conservative is for them to vote for a conservative democrat. Until this system changes, it is not possible to get a liberal much less leftist candidate in major elections. The elections literally do not matter unless you live in a few specific states.

Okay I had heard so much about electoral colleges and gerrymandering but it was never explained this plainly, thanks for sharing that! I thought it's referring to constituencies as usually happens with general elections. So there's the electoral college which means every vote isn't equal, and then the vote from there is just the "popular vote" and isn't the final deciding factor? So it's rigged twice over to not give much of a choice to the citizens, I had been wondering about those write-in votes all this time, and wondering that if voting really is the topmost important thing to get people to do then why aren't more people putting forward Bernie as a big candidate when they get people to vote instead of insisting they vote democratic, but it's making more sense now. And so is everyone who rightly said you can't keep reforming such a system it actually needs to be gone.

[fremedon]

State-level ranked choice voting advocacy groups:

Almost every state has at least one organization already working towards ranked choice voting (RCV). If you live in one of the few that doesn't, there are national organizations you can reach out to to help you start one.

Getting RCV at the local level makes third-party candidates viable at the local level, which in turn helps those third parties develop their candidate bases.

RCV has already been adopted statewide in Maine, and in some state primary elections and localities. This is a winnable fight.

Look.

I have made you a chart. A very simple chart.

People say "You have to draw the line somewhere, and Biden has crossed it-" and my response is "Trump has crossed way more lines than Biden".

These categories are based off of actual policy enacted by both of these men while they were in office.

If the ONLY LINE YOU CARE ABOUT is line 12, you have an incredible amount of privilege, AND YOU DO NOT CARE ABOUT PALESTINIANS. You obviously have nothing to fear from a Trump presidency, and you do not give a fuck if a ceasefire actually occurs. You are obviously fine if your queer, disabled, and marginalized loved ones are hurt. You clearly don't care about the status of American democracy, which Trump has openly stated he plans to destroy on day 1 he is in office.