#theres probably not a lot of overlap for these fandoms

[oso-mirm]

2 years ago, I came up with ideas for madoka magica witch forms for cole, jay, zane, and kai. I was reading them back and I think they turned out pretty good so I wanted to post them here. Their "wishes" were based on their true potentials and the witch forms were based on "bad endings" to those wishes.

Cole: Wish: I wish my dad would accept me for who I am. Witch: The Forgotten Witch with a departed nature. It haunts Yang’s temple, wandering the halls. It is trapped in the temple forever. It calls out to the people who have forgotten it long ago. To defeat this witch, you must remember its name. Minions: Red, Blue, White dancers (based on season 1 dance outfits) that brings humans because their witch wants people to remember them Domain: either Yangs' Temple or the stage the Blade Cup talent contest took place in

Jay: Wish: I wish to have the confidence to confess to my crush. or I wish to be true to myself. Witch: The Cowardly Witch with a disguised nature. This witch hides itself away under piles of clothes, tools, and junk. It abhors its appearance. It disguises itself as items, humans, snakes, anything, to get away from piercing eyes/lingering looks. To defeat this witch, you must find it first. Be wary, it is quick to run and hide, but also quick to strike. Minions: Red, Black, White scrap collectors that lure humans through curiosity of what lies beyond their imagination (into the junk pile) Domain: either the Scrapyard or a broken down Mega Monster Amusement Park

Zane: Wish: I wish to know the truth about my past. Witch: The Broken Down Witch with a self-rejecting nature. This witch hates itself and its past. Knowing the truth about itself, and the assumption of others' rejection of it, the witch fell into a lonely despair. This witch trapped itself within its labyrinth so it could hide itself from others. When humans enter the labyrinth, it quickly takes care of them, to spare them from itself. To defeat this witch, you must have total acceptance / confidence of yourself, and never hesitate. Minions: Red, Black, Blue falcons/crows (crows symbolize death and falcons symbolize freedom, so I think crows would be more appropriate) that brings humans to the labyrinth to help their witch, but ends up leading humans to death. Domain: Tree fortress in the snow woods/old house

Kai: Wish: I wish to protect the Green Ninja, and those I love. Witch: I had two versions for Kai

The Ronin Witch with a desperate nature. This witch has forgotten who it is fighting for. This witch attacks anything in a blind rage, frustrated that it has become the embodiment of evil, the very thing the witch swore to destroy. This witch is desperate to escape its despair, and will keep fighting for its loved ones, for a chance to see them again. This witch cannot, and does not, give up.

The Green Ronin Witch with a jealous nature. Its appearance mirrors the legendary green ninja. It is jealous of the power the green ninja inherits. It fights anything that enters its labyrinth for justice and goodness. To defeat this witch, one must be able to face hard truths.

Minions: Black, White, Blue messengers that brings humans so their witch can defeat evil Domain: Fire Temple or the open tournament arena from season 4

[nethnad]

i love having favorite characters its either “you could psychoanalyze the hell outta me for this one” or “i just think theyre neat” and there is no in-between

[biogarfield]

what is regretevator. .

[tchaikovsgay]

i dont usually listen to boy groups but god. enhypens new album fucking SLAPS and weirdly, has so many locked tomb relevant lyrics. like. the song sacrifice (eat me up) are you fucking kidding me

griddlehark

[prismatoxic]

you get it. dont mind me, but this has been nagging for a few days when i saw mentions of chilaios has no 'canon basis' or along those lines or dont get why its even a thing and its really not that hard? like theres a ton of reasons why someone would gravitate this ship and for myself while i enjoy the height difference alot, its their deep mutual trust and respect that has me vice gripped. idk it seems like more ARE catching onto chilaios and its steady rising so its weird to still insist on its 'crackship' status

right??? it drives me insane. i don't know what the hell happened in modern fandom for people to dismiss ships with plenty of material to work with as having "no canon basis".

i guess it has something to do with fandom's increasing gravitation towards canon being necessary for shipping. in this fandom specifically you can certainly ship farcille by that metric, and like... god, i dunno what else. i assume they're just making shit up about how their ships of choice have a canon basis to make themselves feel better about it. bc at the end of the day, dunmeshi is not a romance, and the only kiss we ever see is from a relationship where one is in love and the other is like "aw, you're such a good friend." (kabru was real mean for that.)

either way, back to chilaios--back in my day (shakes cane), what they have was more than enough for a "valid" ship. so much so that no one would have questioned it except people who hated it. which... is probably true here as well, a lot of the time. like, dismissing a ship you don't like as being meaningless probably feels pretty good if you actually believe yourself.

you know what an actual dunmeshi crackship would be? (throws a dart at the wall) mithrun/dandan. makes no sense, right? they were in the same room maybe once, never interacted, and have no reason to interact. that's what a crackship is. it has no canon basis whatsoever.

crackships and rarepairs can overlap, and often do, but a rarepair can also be something with real canon interactions that just didn't take off in the fandom. chilbell probably still counts as one, though it does have fics and art, so your mileage may vary.

chilaios, then, with an entire fucking 14-volume-manga's worth of interactions, several of which were important specifically to the two of them, is not a crackship, and god knows it's no longer a rarepair either, if it even was back before the anime. (i know there was like, 1 fic on ao3, but the manga was being published for like 10 years so i assume the general fandom was just a lot smaller.)

calling chilaios a crackship is straight up just not true. not what that term means. they have the same amount of canon basis as multiple other popular ships, and imo they have the chemistry to back it up, but even that isn't necessary. all told it's a pretty standard ship. they're friends, there's tension between them but there's also a deep mutual trust, and there are very few chapters where they don't directly interact (either because the chapter isn't about the touden party or bc one of them isn't present).

sorry for rambling. i feel passionate about this, lmao... not even just because it's my otp but because misuse of fandom terms drives me up the fucking wall.

[the-s1lly-corner]

okay here we go (I added in images to characters you might not know)

Mild crushes:

Brassius (left) and Hassel (right)

Larry

Lord Milori (still kinda like him)

Sir Pentious and Lucifer

Used to take over my life:

Grillby

Gaster

Brett Hand

Lukas

Mordecai Heller

Kinger

Adam (most recent)

ALREADY HAS ME DEAD DJJSKX:

Clopin

I used to like him before back in January, but after listening to the soundtrack of this movie again, I frickin fell in LOVE

The obsession got so bad that I’m now researching Romani history and culture, watching those “the making of (movie name)” videos, interviews (which there are SO FEW OF) of the VAs or Alan Menken, the composer of the soundtrack

I want to know everything when I like a character lol

I actually have more, but it already feels weirdly personal to confess some of them so thank god that this is the silly corner :]

SCARED TO SEND IN BUT HERE WE GO

Mo need to fear this is a no judgement zone! Also I lost my right to judge people when I wrote mpreg a few weeks ago/lh

Rubs hands

The first two!! Obligatory "I've never gotten too deep into pokemon and the only game I've played start to finish is shield, and I'm like. Partway through brilliant diamond" soooooo! I know nothing about the personalities of these two so we're going off of looks!! And I say!

Valid!

Brassius gives off either old and exhausted punk or old exhausted gay artist but those two can overlap!

Hassel Looks yummy I love me a good longhaired blonde man AND he looks a little on the older side? YUMMY!!! He looks like he'd either he a grade A douchebag rich guy or a total sweetheart

Larry! Hey I know you I saw your dick on Twitter!!!/ref mo but real talk I can get the appeal! I already know that's hes a tired working man but that's about all I know!! Hes valid, I'd give him a big ol kith

Milori looks interesting! I don't know wheres hes from so once more we rely off of looks! He looks vaguely like a broken man . I can fix him. Valid!!!

Pentious is valid but I'm biased because I also had a crush on the character!! Pathetic men are just so silly!! Probably also has my favorite design of the entire show!!

Lucifer is also valid I can see the vision!! Caring but mentally I'll man who distances himself for one reason or another despite deeply wanting a connection my BELOVED

Grillby also had a choke hold on me when I was into undertale!! I'm so sad that there werent many grillby x reader fics out there- if I was still balls deep into undertale and deltarune like I used to be I'd 100% give writing the characters a shot but unfortunately I doubt I ever will <\3 unrelated theres a surprising amount of buff bara art of him

Gaster!! I can also get behind!! Mysterious creature that hardly has any lore iirc, fandom either portrayed him as a mad evil scientist or a loving father to sans and papyrus, at least with my experience with the fandom.. valid!!

I never watched inside job but I've heard good things about it! Brett looks like a sweetie, so I can understand the appeal! He looks so silly.. just a guy.. valid

Lukas!! It's been so long since I've heard someone talk about MCSM! Obligatory I dont remember much of Lukas, just that he was kind of an ass in the beginning I think.. but I can see the appeal! I was more of a ivor girlie

Surprisingly I have not seen lackadaisy yet! Surprising I know, since I'm huge fans of other indie animations on youtube!! Going off looks I can see the appeal, he gives old grumpy grandpa vibes but I could be totally off! I like his eyebrows :3

Kinger is another valid but again I might be biased because hes my baby girl- cant wait to see more of him in future episodes especially since hes hardly had any screen time so far <\3 he seems so sweet :(

Adam!! I can see the appeal again but his personality isnt really for me <\3 hes valid though!!

AND CLOPIN! It's been so so so long since I've seen the movies but omfg I remember I loved him a lot! Yummy design as well as a nice personality I wish we got more of him <\3 VALID VALID VALID

[i-need-of-a-hobby]

So we all know the theory that Gravity Falls, The Owl House and Amphibia take place in the same universe right?

its a pretty well know theory (even if you don't believe it) in all three fandoms but if you don't here's the gist of it:

so basically that theory is built off easter eggs, like willows dads having a book with Hop-Pops face on it

and references to the other shows like that entire Gravity Falls episode in Amphibia,

that imply that they’re taking place simultaneously, with gravity falls taking place in 2012 and TOH and amphibia taking place in 2019-2020 (without the covid the lucky bastards) with Camilla reading an article about a girl returning from a frog world in the season 2 finale of TOH

but that opens the door for a whole lot of inter-dimensional *shenanigans* and so many plot points i can and will argue reference and overlap with each other.

now theres the obvious similarities like how bills minions fit the description of beast demons from the owl house:

(ignore the circling its not my screenshot I found it on google)

and bill himself is on one of kings posters when he tries to teach Luz about demons:

Bill is also in the book that tells marcy about the calamity box:

a book I believe was written by ford since the cover says its by "Dr. P" (P-ines anyone?) and has eyes that look awfully familiar, which I think are a reference to either the cores eyes, the portal doors eye from toh, or Bills eye (and the fact that this eye symbol is so similar across shows feeds the theory that they're all in the same universe)

meaning the Bill is a semi-universal character/figure throughout the different realms

if the other realms (Bill's realm, the several Ford got trapped in, the Boiling Isles, and Amphibia) have access to each other, and Bill is as universal as he seems, he probably interacted with some citizens of those realms, and probably left a mark

now it's finally time for my personal take/add-in:

we never get an origin for the core 

or the newts relation to the core

we get an episode about Andrias's personal history and his individual relation to the core, and how he came to be the guy who manipulated and then stabbed a very vulnerable teenage girl, but it seems like the core has just been with the Leviathan lineage since at least before Andrias's dad (who's over a thousand years old since thats how old the flashback is)

so, what am I rambling about?

well, if bill, a dream demon, made his way to amphibia, the core might have been the newts attempt to artificially replicate his powers

NOW HEAR ME OUT: on top of being incredibly powerful once he’s released in gravity falls

he also has the power to go into other peoples minds and search their memories like he does to Stan in his very introduction

which is an awful lot like what the core tries to do, since Andrias says the core is the hive mind of a dozen of the greatest newt minds and when Darcy happens it has complete access to her memories

not to mention how when it talks to andrias what physically appears when it talks are it’s eyes, which is what changes on dipper and Blendin (time travel dude) when bill possess them

the amphibians (powered by the music box) were an incredibly advanced civilization capable of a lot of damage (as seen by the literal frobot army they created

so i don't think it would be crazy to say that when they (specifically the newts) saw what a being like Bill could do, they would try to replicate it.

Obviously, the core and Bills mind-jumping powers are not the same, which is a way I'd say the Amphibians failed: instead of popping in and out of peoples minds like Bill does, the core completely takes their minds, more like a parasite.

we don't know all the parameters since we know basically nothing about the other newts in the hive mind, other than that each mind shows up as an eye on the cores "head" before and after it possesses Marcy. and speaking of the girl, she has no control or consciousness (that we know of) while under the cores control.

but we do get one and a half-ish examples of people who are very aware of the cores presence in their mind (unlike Bill) but are physically controlling their own bodies (we think) (unlike Marcy) and those two are Andrias and his dad, who both communicate with the core more like it's just a very dangerous, intrusive thought.

so.... yeah...

idk how to end this but please reblog and tell me if you think im crazy or not-

[6ftkyle]

I am assuming you are somewhat of a Fandom Elder and have been around the block more than a few times. Curious if there is anything interesting you've noticed over the years, or even if there's people you see and think "wow you're still making content" and stuff like that LOL

i dont know if i'd quite all myself a fandom elder, mostly because this is the first time ive actively engaged with the fandom in like 15 years, and definitely the most ive ever engaged. i only started this blog back in november? and my memory is not very good, especially since ive had The Plague. there are definitely other people who could give you more concise observations and histories.

but i have been a passive observer for a really really long time! i used to cycle in and out of my south park interest, but ive been pretty solidly observing since 2019 this time around. i think theres probably only one of two blogs who are still at it, but unfortunately, a lot of people will like passionately fall out of love with south park and scrub all their content away. this does happen with any fandom, esp if people have bad experiences with it, but like, the rate is really really high for south park fans for like pretty obvious reasons.

there are definitely artists that cross my dash that im like fuck man i miss when they were active, and i like remember their pieces when they were initially posted.

its also really funny to see like "fandom pipelines". like for example, i was following a lot of sp artists in 2019, and when IT chapter 2 came out a LOT of them went ham for it. i wasnt really actively observing south parkies in 2017 when ITch1 dropped, so idk if the same overlap was there, but it was definitely there for ITch2. so i went, saw the movie, caught the brain worms, became a very dedicated clown blogger for 3 years, and then some shit happened with one of the actors that kind of really throttled that fandom and clown guys went one of two ways, back to south park or on to Saw.

and being a big reddie guy, and watching the clown guys go back to south park and ship kyman especially, it really opened my eyes to kyman. this is my first time in my 18+ years of being a south parkie that ive shipped kyman. part of it is the reddie similarities, part of it is the changing fanon perception changing to stuff im more interested in.

[dumpsterf11re]

seeing a lot of “so reigen/sans is actually a twitter sexyman not a tumblr sexyman at all” which for reigen thats probably true idk im not in that fandom but sans is 100% a tumblr sexyman don’t deprive him of that title. he just happens to also be a twitter sexyman. theres overlap. its a venn diagram.

[kentopedia]

i’m just shy and awkward so i never know what to write to people i follow (or even my mutuals). but know that i appreciate you on my dashboard even if i don’t write or even am in all the fandoms you are in (dazai seems interesting tho, where is he from 👀)

have a nice day 🌻 (or evening, if you’re european like me 🪻)

that’s okay! thanks for leaving me a message!! :,) i just don’t want anyone to feel shy abt coming into my inbox if they wanted to, ik it can be a little awkward sometimes!! <3

NEW DAZAI CULT MEMBER ??? pls pls pls let me convert you hehe. he’s from bungo stray dogs! <33 if you’re a jjk fan, theres a lot of overlap between bsd & jjk enjoyers, so you would probably like it!! i definitely recommend it if you’re ever looking for something new to watch/read.

that makes me giggle that you’re interested in him, he’s my special little guy 🤭 let me know if you give it a chance, id love to hear what you think! take care of yourself, lovely, thanks for stopping by (˶ > ₃ < ˶)♡

[fagoutboy]

About your Centuries not being overrated post: I feel like people get “overrated” and “overplayed” mixed up a lot. Like, yeah Centuries was probably overplayed on the radio to a lot of people (I never thought so but I also don’t usually mind songs I like being overplayed lol). And overplaying a lot of the time leads to people getting, like, annoyed or something when they hear the song so they don’t give it the chance it deserves. I very much agree that it’s not at all overrated, I think a lot of people just get overrated and overplayed confused. Maybe. That’s just how I look at it, but idk how other people do

yeah this is pretty much exactly how i see it

i do get the overplay fatigue with certain things (though it sometimes just depends on context. if its in a scenario when i am feeling bad and annoyed that doesnt help) but i feel like theres a really REALLY huge difference between something being played on the radio a lot and people really liking it

that can definitely overlap and often does but not always. And it especially differs when you look at specifically how a fandom will view that song. especially considering how old the general populace is (again, looking at sugar and mmrs)

also i think its all made worse for centuries by the fact that its pop rock and on abap lol and not the same emo pop punk shit theyve already done to death. ppl generally tend to look on the radio hits from that era with much more disdain than they do the others and feel much more comfortable writing those songs/albums off as being vapid radio pop simply because they sound different

anyways. tldr your brain so huge

[buoyantsaturn]

taking this as a small invitation to talk even more about this fic to you!!

I did actually think that about the band name psychopomp!! That is was intentional because of canon connections, so that was super clever and I LOVE that

If it's not revealed later, now that Naomi knows is she #1 fan of will solace??

I adore how Travis and Connor were like. Yeah you can stay that was so cool and definitely more in character than most of the pjo fandom gives them credit for in fanon? Except rosyredlipstick (and a lot of other people but my god.) I adore how you've chosen to right this!!! Is it all happening linearly? It seems that way?

Austin is a little geek yes yes yes yes , is Kayla making an appearance ?? Oh I have to let you know I scREECHED during the Jason chapter, the best friend on a flight line!!! Woo!!!

These are less questions and more me screaming uhhh, thanks for writing

hello yes please always scream at me about my fics <3

honestly when i was writing it i dont even think i made the connection with the stolls&nico other than like. nico needed a place to live. but the big house in this fic really is kind of like the hermes cabin, they take it whoever needs a place to crash for the night etc etc. plus i personally hc that nico has a great relationship with the stolls in canon bc of all the hijinks they must have gotten up to when nico first came to camp <3 so i had to give them some fun interactions in this one <3

yes! it is all happening linearly (except i can think of one place where the chapters kind of overlap, but it should be pretty clear when it comes to that point) but it should be noted that there are HUGE timeskips between a lot of the chapters. like the first five or six chapters probably take place over the span of at least a year or two. theres nothing in the fic to indicate this at all but thats whats in my head <3 the fic as a whole probably spans like 5 years from start to finish but again the only thing thatll support that is the occasional mention of like. holidays or specific months or certain weather patterns.

literally almost said that i didnt think kayla made an appearance. lol im so dumb <3 yeah she'll be there <3

its so fun exploring a bunch more characters than i usually do so im glad its paying off with all the fun little individual character spotlight chapters <3

[ronanceisintheair]

No hate on your opinions just letting you know that I think by tagging posts anti steddie they're still showing up in the steddie tag? I was in there and found one of your posts and since you censor it in the main post I gather you don't want to be posting in the steddie and/or steve tags. Maybe use something like st3ddie?

(Universally across tumblr we use one tagging system that would be #anti whatever, using multiple censored versions of a ship or name doesn't help. If someone follows me and likes st*ddie in conjunction with ronance and they have the anti tag blocked-like they should-than me tagging st@ddie or st&ddie or whatever will risk them seeing the anti stuff)

All this to say yes that's a flaw in the matrix of tumblr, but there is ways to combat that by using tumblr tag blocking system or filtered content blocking system. Where you block 1 universally used tag to negate seeing the posts.

Thank you for your consideration anon and hope this doesn't come off as bitchy, it just is what it is. If someone doesn't have the proper tags blocked it's on them. If they know about the flaw in tumblr matrix and don't take action it's on them.

All in all things are tagged anti and blocked tags exist. Back to the regularly scheduled ronance love

[bumblebyaf]

fyi to all my spop followers for whatever reason I've horribly failed at my rwby sideblog and just ended up putting a lot of it on here so I think I might just ditch it and make this my rwby/spop blog so apologises if you dont like rwby! Maybe I'll make an spop blog for s2 and change this url to my rwby one

[awsugar]

I think mcrs popularity more than doubled after they broke up. They played stadiums only occasionally, tending to play smaller gigs. Now, every single tour date sold out instantly, in MK alone that was more than 100,000 tickets! I feel like the attitude towards mcr has changed as well. Back then they were given a lot of shit for being emo and having young fans, and they were mostly put under the same heading as fob, panic etc. I think now there’s a real widespread belief that mcr are objectively in a league of their own. Fob and panic could never in a million years sell out concerts like mcr are now doing. It’s really interesting and I wonder what caused it to happen - was it the random break up? Was it older emos such as Dan Howell referencing them which caused the next generation to start listening to them too? Or was it simply because their music is that good? I personally liked mcr before they broke up but only really listened to their albums front to back afterwards.

yea i mean ive talked about this quite a few times but you're right, theyre definitely more popular now than they were back then, easily seen by the size of the venues they're playing now. like yea they did headline reading and leeds during dd, but the majority of the rest of their shows outside of festivals were clubs. the ticket sales for this tour are insane.

i just think its a combination of like achieving this Legend status after they broke up, but also the hype of the reunion. if they hadn't broken up i don't think they'd be selling out venues of this size. the benefit of breaking up for 7 years and then announcing a reunion tour is that all of the people who didnt get a chance to see them before are like ravenous to finally see them now that the opportunity is there.

like i do get the impression that 14 year olds think that all mcr fans (or a majority) are in their teens. like when gerard had to turn off his insta comments i read some of them and there were QUITE a few comments that were like 'your fanbase is young teens you really cant be silent on this' and like. that is simply not the case. insta and twitter fandoms tend to skew younger imo so all those teenagers are seeing mostly teenagers and thats how they form that opinion. but the fact is that like i would say a majority of mcr fans are actually in their 20s and 30s. and MOST people in their later 20s and 30s, especially those who have been mcr fans since the early days, are not active in the online fandom. im different <3 but like that skews the perception of the fandom bc a majority of the loud voices ARE pretty young. anyway what im saying is that a lot of mcr fans are older now, and were probably teens when mcr were active and possibly their parents wouldnt take them to see them so now that they have the chance and they dont need their parents permission theyre like snatching up those tickets. i think thats definitely a factor too. like i hardly even remember seeing a young person at the shrine. nearly everyone there was an adult.

also like im not going to get into the lecture but theres a reason the "emo trinity" exists, theres a reason mcr are lumped in with fob and panic and it was never because people thought they sounded similar sonically. are mcr in a league of their own? yes. but these bands still have a large overlap in fanbase.

the thing you said about fob and panic not being able to sell out concerts like this. i think thats like. i cant actually decide if thats true. and i dont think its easy to compare bc neither of those bands broke up in the same way that mcr did and got back together. the fact is that mcr have 11 million monthly listeners on spotify but fob and panic have 17 and 18 million, respectively. by the numbers, fob and panic have more fans. mcr are benefitting from the hype of getting back together after 7 years. so idk. when fob came back from their hiatus it was fucking huge, and they did go on an arena tour with panic. i saw them at the barclays center in brooklyn which is where one of my mcr shows is. sooooooo idk. i think thats hard to gauge.

anyway i dont really know what caused it. like its very clear that public perception of mcr changed while they were away and that they became much more popular in the mainstream during that time. bc the other thing that i didnt mention is that the online fandom is SOOOO much smaller now than it was when they were together, and even a lot smaller than it was in say 2016 when i came back from a few years away as a fob stan. so i dont think the 'new generation' as you called it is contributing THAT much to these crazy ticket sales. its kind of a mystery.

[ot3]

Oh sorry 😭 I read the books before the untamed came out and never saw it. Being involved in mxtx's books fandom is what introduced me to orv first, but I've been meaning to read it. From what I hear orv and mdzs are just very similar books thematically?

its fine lol im not mad or anything. i'm sure theres some definitive overlap there but also a lot of the stuff that really interests me about orv is the commentary it has on Media and Capitalism along with its metanarrative angle which i suspect is probably not super present in a book that takes place in fantasy ye olde china. like i don't think the things it has overlapping with orv are the parts of orv that i found ulta-compelling and unique, yknow?