#there are characters in some fandoms i just dont vibe with
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also bc it still makes me batty going thru the respective mh*a tags: being critical of a character doesnt mean shitting on them while ignoring core pieces of them!! it just means you dont like them!!
#which is also valid tbf#there are characters in some fandoms i just dont vibe with#but good god ur not any better than anyone else bc you hate another blorbo#like everyday i wonder why i came back to this fandom bc sometimes i see things and im just like#‘wow this fandom was a mistake’ lmao#god id love to see some good fuckin analysis at some point#but im also like 70% sure this fandom is made up of teenagers so idk why im so surprised#(am also aware im part of that problem lmao)
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augh who up feeling like they should be humanely euthanised for liking media the wrong way... sorry for fandomising certain characters but not fandomising others enough in the right way.
#ive noticed the wbg fandom has a very different way of interacting w the source media than like. dndads#both are similar in some of the fandomising of characters#specifically like funny characterisation stuff#but when it comes to more complex stuff like angst it feels like the wbg fandom approaches from a different layer#eg in dndads just a characters death is seen is sad but for wbg a lot of the time theres more to it...#an extra layer. a more complex flavour. the horrors are not just those experienced but the entire surrounding situation.#like edgars death isnt sad#i mean. its not sad in the way that referencing it in art will get any attention#but TJ's death is devastating!#with notable exceptions of course. eg innocent hunter and like everything about him#i find that i tend to approach media more stylistically and appreciating the DRAMA which i can mine for visuals#and then in my art i try to challenge myself to translate those vibes#like picking at a thread that is already present. an angst or dynamic already present and explored briefly#but wbg fandom tends to lean more towards analysis? which makes the way i engage feel a bit surface level#like in wbg fandom i dont think i can do the eqiuvalent of all my angsty glenn close art#also i just noticed. the characters in wbg are really interesting because you THINK they#wouldn't be very fandomised. that theyd be treated within the show as more like characters that exist to push the plot forward#but then certain characters act as very fandomised versions of themselves in canon#and are treated as their one trait in the qnas too!!#its like theyre almost dndads characters in this way. but without even that extra layer#the second heat that even like henry oak has! like henry's a hippie but he's also stinky and cringe and is repressing so much shit#but marissa is just explosions girl#i guess that's maybe cuz many characters in wbg arent main characters but in dndads they all are#BUT EVEN NPC HERMIE. HIS LAYERS.#very interesting
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Can't stress enough how much I appreciate that many fans of this series are fine with pointing out and acknowledging the flaws in their faves and seeing those flaws as part of the essential flavoring rather than something to erase or constantly get offended about people noticing
#sometimes when i poke my nose into other fandoms i just get the vibe that#roasting your faves will never be met with a good sense of humour or seen as a regular way to act#i dont think i could have lasted this long in this fandom if i couldnt spend just as much time roasting them as defending them and#nothing tires me out faster than people taking these characters way too seriously or sexily at all times you know what i mean#like yes i too have crushes on some of them and project onto some of them but#hopefully not to the point i actually act like somebody is insulting me personally by pointing out that they also often absolutely suck#p
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also by read the comics i mean ACTUALLY read them. not gotten an idea of what scourge is like through fanart/fanfic or scanned some wiki pages or something
#idk im just wondering. because a lot of the stuff ive seen across the sonic fandom#kinda gives me the vibe that a decent chunk of scourge fans have never read archie sonic. or at least not very much of it#and idk if im just imagining it or what#anyways me personally. ive read all of archie and i dont think i outright Hate scourge . there were some fun stories involving him#(well there were fun stories after penders left anyway . i hate what penders did with him)#but im not really a huge fan of him either and i honestly think hes really overrated and dont get why people want him back so bad#there are other archie characters who deserve the attention more i think.
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im so used to how finely curated my fandom experience is with star wars that im actually suffering trying to navigate the fallout fandom rn.
#cy speaks#i am having a bad time#think im just gonna do what i did with my sw blog and like just bulid my own little sandbox and ignore people for the most part lol#write my fic and ignore the majority of the fandom#also im begging people to tag shit properly#tired of being jumped scared by untagged vaultgh*ul in the main tag#i have avoided so many tags for it already#i dont care if you ship it but i cannot get behind it#lowkey gives me the ick bc i only got platonic found family vibes with cooper and lucy#also some of the fans of that ship are very weird and rude about maximus#for reasons we all know (racism) but so many deny#and the way so many are treating lucy like just some insert and disregard her character doesnt sit right with me#but now im just rambling in the tags so im gonna stop <3#gonna build my little sandbox
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#what is wrong with dark souls 3 tag?#okay maybe I am alarmed too early but like#first I see someone post art of nameless king and caption 'i drew this because-#-i like nameless king and not because I like this awful awful game'#now someone says 'I don't like dark souls 3 anymore but abyss watchers are neat I guess'#maybe it is lingering paranoia from horrible fandom times before based soulsborne fandom but-#-it gave me strong vibe of like#some dumb twitter or cancerous discord server discourse happening and so-#-now people have to add that stupid 'i dont support the IMPURE thing/person uwu' disclaimer#if this happens third time I'll ask if I missed some dumb new unspoken rule lol#god I hope I just ran into people who legit dislike the game. like they played elden ring and-#-saw the light of peak fromsofts gameplay or something gfdjgng#because so far it tickles the exact same warning signs of dumb discourse#like why do you have to post that dumb 'i dont like the game just characters pls dont witch hunt me' thing?#what haappeneeeed#please just be a very bad coincidence + my paranoia ghghhhfhf#like why people hate ds3 in that 'pls dont hurt me for fanart of it' vibe. who hurt you.
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how do u take a post about how people treat aro and ace characters in media/headcanons and make it only about ace people.
#sry i was looking through the notes of that one post. mistake#'its acephobic' yeah. and you even mention aro people in your reply. but aro people are not all ace.#and frankly i'd go even further and suggest that people are more prone to misunderstanding aromanticism in fandom#not that they dont both have weird misunderstandings that happen to them but#when people decide they're going to ship an aroace character they arent always writing smut#but they are going to be writing romance and guess what aspect of their identity that ignores#anyway. i blocked them its fine but mannnnn#shay speaks#also i realize i'm probably some flavor of asexual but im not about to unpack all tht#mostly bc i do not vibe with the erasure of aros in the ace community that happened right around#peak ace/aro discourse time like aros were constantly thrown under the bus#and i'm much more connected to the aro part of my identity anyway over the potential ace part#anyway thats neither here nor there i've just been kinda thinking on it
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there is not enough 92sies sprace. i know what you all are doing. 92sies fans did not get on their knees and pick up crumbs to ship spot and race for the rest of us to run off with it and apply it to livesies where not only do they not even directly interact, but fanon prefers because they find the actors more attractive, and then proceed to boil their characters down to 1-2 traits each and ship them in a weird almost f/tishy "dumb feminine man x angry masculine man" way. guys this is a class war not the yaoi war.
#& dont get me wrong NOT all sprace content is like this. it's just Enough#i know this is gonna be controversial but as much as i love sprace ive finally realized why a lot of the fan content doesnt appeal to me#or is just straight up uncomfortable#and it kind of goes with the sexification of funny characters in general which race has fallen victim to#in which ppl remove their depth; give them more sex appeal; and add a pinch of frat boy to the mixture#to make this unhinged sexful comic relief#now im just as in love with btc as the rest of yall but race fell victim to this because he was in the proshot and ppl were attracted 2 him#which is fine#BUT leads to a lot of like.#misinterpretation of his character or just heavily exaggerating certain aspects that made him initially attractive to ppl#which then ends up consuming fanon like a poisoned water supply#it's kinda a variation of sexymanification. fanon making a character stereotypically queer but in a way that is attractive and consumable#and completely overtakes canon aspects of the character. it is not inherently f*tishy but it can definitely acquire those vibes#source: kuroo tetsurou warrior who survived 2016 era haikyuu fandom#92sies sprace is a funny rarepair while livesies sprace is like when the bbc sherlock fandom shipped lestrade and mycroft for no reason#but with the vibes of the ppl who Made Up A Man to ship moriarty with. does that make sense.#the never-interacted rarepair mixed with the yaoiful (derogatory) vibes of 'if this man has no one to ship with i'll just make one myself'#and again i dont think all (livesies) sprace content falls victim to this nor do all people Intend to characterize them this way#i can totally get Not realizing you're portraying them this way until someone points it out#and i couldnt even articulate why i didn't like a lot of sprace content until i saw some passing mentions of this like. An Hour ago#newsies#sprace#dontlistento me
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It's always strange to me when ppl get several chapters into a fix then complain about it. Like homie you're 3 chapters in, you've read like 15k of this fic and now you're bitching? Lmao you look like a fan, why are you wasting your time reading and commenting if you dislike the story/dynamics/characterizations/etc? It's just not for you.
#im not even like mad about this one im just confused#like theres plenty of times i read a fic and dont vibe with it#then i just go “welp that was a bit disappointing” then move on and look for something that better suits my taste#esp with complaints like characterization#even canon complaint characterizations are gonna be a little off in fanfic bc its fanfic#and then youve gotta take ppls interperations of characters into account#and then theres various fanon characterizations#like one guy can be written a million ways in the fandom you might not like some of the ways and thats okay#but like basic shit dont be rude to the author
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I wonder if vere doesnt get w anyone bc its just too easy to stop caring about others (im projecting)
Edit: no hes probably too passionate for that. He doesnt wanna get w ppl bc he knows he'll be a slave to love probably.
His fatal flaw is wanting power so love would be a weakness
#lets gooooo selfish monstrosity#redstrewn talks#i can stop caring about things and people SO easily its honestly scary#i was only a little less obsessed w other fandom and characters as i am w touchstarved now. and now? i dont think abt them at all anymore#same w some people. some people i forget exist at all.#my exes? its so scary how once i let go of them i completely let go. like i dont feel anything at all. do i hate them? theres#something to hate w everyone but mostly i just dont CARE#shaking how ppl say the opposite of love is not hate but *indifference.* i am screaming.#vere is a hater thou. maybe he loves TOO much.#tbh maybe vere doesnt get w anyone bc hes scared of being TOO attached#maybe hes scared of being a slave to love bc he will ALWAYS be hungry and NEVER satisfied and he doesnt want to be under#the mercy of something else like that#yeah its probably more of that and not the shit i was projecting onto him lmfao#vere gives me the vibe of someone whos TOO passionate for things#hes fiery like that#hes too passionate he knows not to care abt people or else it will consume him. or something.
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are your requests still open? and also do you have any fandoms/characters you REFUSE to draw?
don’t want to ask for things your uncomfortable with drawing, yk?
For the first part:
My requests r usually always open! it just takes time to get to some asks so its not like im never not taking rqs!
as for fandoms i refuse to draw-
•both of v*vzipop's shows r huge no-nos for me personally
•genshin is iffy for requests (unless its a comm or a close friend) so probably not
•i dont need to say anything abt terf-wizard-books or h*talia of course, i wouldnt touch that stuff
•most adult shows (i like bops burgrs tho) cus i know some of them have fandoms (wont name names)
and for characters
•william afton (cus he's like an old guy n i cant draw those, also can't vibe)
•most anipoke original characters cus im more attached to game characters n i dont vibe wit ash... (but i do vibe wit sawyer, horace & mairin tho!)
•like 2-3 of the girl pokemon protags cus i dont trust some of their fans (im so sorry girlies)
•h*soka
ty for the ask anon!! hapy to know theres ppl like u that ask abt boundaries & what stuff to avoid when rqs'n!!
#yknow its just really stuff that has iffy source material tbh! (and some stuff i just cant vibe wit that doesnt have iff source material)#cand posts#cand answers#sorry this took a bit to answer- i usually block out things (on tumblr & my mind) i dont like so it took some time to think#i dont even draw much hxh stuff but i do NOT fw that guy#other than all that- its really 50/50 cus i may not know what the fandom or charater is! but its always worth a shot to ask!!#for pkmn- its really just human characters idm drawing any creature#ty for the ask! i should probably add smth like this to my carrd & an extra list of characters/fandoms i woul LOVE to draw
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I wanted to go on a blocking spree on twt but mk fans get super aggressive over that so nvm I guess
#i just want to prevent any annoyances man but i see them harassing others over it constantly#i dont even tag my shit i don't wanna be percieved#inevitably some big stan acc is going to be like ooohh yikers yikes yikeies this person likes xyz series n characters that's a big yiiiiike#and their followers will be like yeah i got major bad vibes from all the suividal anime girls they drew#sorry i make so many whining posts lately i just kinda figure venting might ward off those types... hopefully#every fandom ever sucks tho i wish i was content with ocs#and people are way too okay with targeting others over nothing
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When ST fans interpret every antagonistic character to be a child molester for some reason
#tw sa#tw csa#puts up a sign that says i love fandom theorizing and creativity but what the fuck are some of yall one lol#*on#genuinely im not even saying the vibes arent there but do you genuinely think theyre going to take a character that represents#internalized shame and actually make them what they think that they are#like approaching it from an internalized homophobia standpoint which a lot of these takes do#yeah a lot of gay men who grew up in horribly environments will be brainwashed by that shit and be terrified of becoming a monster#but the whole point is that theyre WRONG about themselves and the ppl who convinced them of that in the 1st place ate the real 'monsters'#thats. thats literally the climax of s4#genuinely not all parallels are going to be one to one and not all vibes are going to be literal#idk I just have a lot of thoughts abt this TBH and this isnt even 5% of it#not an attack either im sure the intentions are innocent enough i just. would rather wait until s5 bc i personally think theres a lot#more to it than that#henry creel#<- bc i only trust henry stans#alsl dont @ me im not here to devate lol#*also#*debate#fuck typos
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(*Quick clarification, 'cause I feel like I should say this right away, I don't mind people not liking or even being really uncomfortable with certain characters, especially villains that have canonically done some really horrible stuff, even if I happen to really love the character in question! It's all in the Handling of the topic, and someone that's like "oh they're just not my cup of tea" or just don't want to talk about the character at all 1000000% has my respect and appreciation <3)
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So.
On the topic of demonizing characters that have violent or angry responses to their trauma
The thing about it that really gets my goat is the fact that I as a person have had anger problems ever since I can remember. I've had a pretty bad mix of anxiety and anger problems due to being traumatized, and have had to work really, really hard to get my knee-jerk temper under control, and really nothing fucks you up like thinking you're "fixed" but the reality winds up being you just were in a state of "nothing too stressful's happened lately" and then when things start getting incredibly stressful again, you realize you still have more work to do and you have to watch yourself way more than you thought.
I'm still not "fixed", and, after talking extensively with a therapist, I'm kind of just going to have to be okay with that; still trying to do right by the people I care about and not be an asshole about things, but I'm just going to have to live with the fact that in response to high anxiety and high stress, I become an angry person, and I'm not always going to be able to remember to take a step back from a situation when I feel myself getting heated (my success rate in this is going up at least)
So It Really.
Really.
Bothers Me.
When fandom tries to claim that a character isn't traumatized, or isn't traumatized enough, because their response to that trauma is to be violent and angry and malicious. And when they try to claim that because a character reacted this way, they're just evil and irredeemable and have no further depth to them, and any attempt to add depth (even canonical depth) to them is "wrong (and a sign the person doing it is an Abuser/Terrible Person irl)" or is "woobifying them".
And yeah. Part of what bothers me is that I tend to fall very hard for villain/antagonist characters that handle trauma badly, or otherwise have signs that they probably have some trauma they haven't exactly worked through, especially when that villain character gets to have a redemption arc. (And I do NOT mean that as "they cast away everything they were before and completely denounce and despise who they used to be and go through the whole repent and penance number". Give me more villain characters who are TRYING, who are STRUGGLING, who have conflicted feelings, who aren't an entirely new person and shouldn't be left to just wallow in self-hatred over it because!! no one!! deserves!! to wallow in self-hatred!! I want redemption arcs in the form of "person who did wrong is doing their best to be a better person" and NOT "character needs to suffer and be heartbroken and sad and unable to move on forever", I hate when I see people writing the latter shit, Idc what the character canonically did, no one who's genuinely trying deserves to be perpetually miserable and it is Highkey Concerning to see that attitude happen again and again) Plus, I LOVE media and character analysis, it is MY JAM, and.
Yeah.
I've got a lot of feelings that go into this kinda stuff. It's why when I see "no nuance!! just evil!!!"-type takes, that shit really boils my blood.
And is also why I don't actively participate in fandom anymore.
Like, yeah, I make some posts here and there. And I'd love to interact more with like-minded people -- I really love talking to others about characters and media and ships and all that good stuff!!
But I don't go searching for fandom stuff unless it's some art in a completely different language. After my last two fandoms went absolutely horrifically for me in two different ways, I think my trust in modern fandoms is just gone, and I don't think it's coming back.
There's only so many times a person can be told they're inherently evil (indirectly) or badwrong and stupid (directly) for a simple fucking opinion over goddamn fiction of all things.
#chaotic rants#my fandom in 2020 was the absolute worst btw#there was a lot of shit that happened there but the 1 incident that i was violently remembering mid-type#was how someone was writing a 'redemption arc' for my favorite character but#insisted and assured everyone that the character in question was NOT going to ever be happy and was just going to be miserable#and go through the pain of being a better person just FOR that pain because that's all they deserved#and. yeah. kinda hard to vibe with that#people kept talking about that AU like i should love it because i love that character#and was frustrated with everyone else always just killing or maiming the character in their shit#(or sticking them with their abusive parent and calling that 'deserved punishment' for their crimes)#(THAT one really fucks me up)#and im just like...#i dunno how to put into words how hurtful that is to me as both a lover of the character AND#as a person that has done some hurtful things in the past#bc i was a pretty fucked up teenager and it took a while for me to admit i dont get to do whatever i want#to whomever i want#just because i feel hurt and wronged#nothing like sitting there and being told you ARE your worst actions and deserve endless suffering forever bc of it
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wah
#posting An Opinion bc we're at a point in my day where things are their most inactive so people don't have to be subjected to my rantings#it's just me feelin sad about things with no real consequences lol#but good LORD i dislike the way many people in the fandom handle gregory or how they interpret him#and the way so much of it can be traced back to a single source!! the character assassination damage from that One Thing is crippling#i dont wanna write the One Thing's name i dont want it showing up in those tags bc those fans will rip me to shreds but anyway#i know fandom loves a gay evil twink but that is LITERALLY not gregory IN THE SLIGHTEST..... nor is he some pretentious asshole!!#the boy is a revolutionary and a martyr he wants to help the oppressed and voiceless so bad and die in the process#it's his whole THING so he doesn't know how to handle others who don't understand the importance of it which makes him come across as aloof#and he's got the vibe of a gifted kid expected to act mature beyond his years so he can't form meaningful social connections#but he is a good boy and people who think he is Evil are wrong and also probably only watched the movie knowing his characterization from#That One Thing :/ or they don't understand characters are not always clear cut tropes and so they pigeonhole him into one anyway#ok rant OVER ty to whoever read my tags. i have endless Hot Takes on this subject and similar tbh but i dont wanna be a place of negativity
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its kind of funny that i have slendytubbies ocs. and like. ive never actually played that ive never Watched gameplay of that maybe like a boss battle once for a couple minutes not significant enough for me to remember anything
#and they were breedables i was like can i have a little guy ^_^ and they were like ok ^_^#and i didnt know what the fuck slendytubbies was about why did i get him#the other one a friend i lost contact with forever ago also got it i forget why i dont remember if They were into slendytubbies#but they gave me theirs so i dunno. got 2 guys now#this is all because of my very brief fixation on teletubbies it was a dark time for me i hope my friends wanted to explode and kill me for#for it#and i have a feeling slendytubbies is obviously fcking nothing like teletubbies so i dont know. i guess those 2 fandoms crossed over a lot#like of course they would its teletubbies but fucked up and evil its the characters. but i dont know the vibes are so different#but i think it was mostly slendytubbies dominating the dA search cuz i was still sorta active on dA at the time and i just rolled with it#like ok i guess i will look at my best friend tinky winky killing people covered in blood and heterosexual#ANYWAYS whatever i dont draw them much and i never posted a lot of my art cuz i mostly would just doodle him on paper and god knows where#those are. but i liek him. and also my other guy but i didnt draw them much cuz that was b4 owning them i got them some time aftr moving on#I AHVE GOT TO STOP RAMBLING IN TAGS BRO
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