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an examination of theon greyjoy's feelings about and (implied) relationship with evil uncle euron
Theon searched for his uncle Euron's Silence. Of that lean and terrible red ship he saw no sign, but his father's Great Kraken was there, her bow ornamented with a grey iron ram in the shape of its namesake. [...] It might be only a caution, now that he thought on it. A defensive move, lest the war spill out across the sea. Old men were cautious by nature. His father was old now, and so too his uncle Victarion, who commanded the Iron Fleet. His uncle Euron was a different song, to be sure, but the Silence did not seem to be in port. It's all for the good, Theon told himself. This way, I shall be able to strike all the more quickly. -Theon I, aCoK
the first we read of euron is in theon's first pov as he searched the harbor at lordsport for euron's ship. no reason is given for singling that ship out nor an initial reaction to its absence. later down the page euron is described as different from balon and victarion, with none of an older man's caution to be expected from him. that's why theon thought it for the best that euron's ship was not in port, though at this point it appears his only concern is being the boldest greyjoy around, commanding the fleet all the more quickly for its already being assembled, and not being outshone by euron. the only hint at more is his description of the ship as "terrible".
"You can marry off your sister," Esgred[Asha] observed, "but not your uncles." "My uncles . . ." Theon's claim took precedence over those of his father's three brothers, but the woman had touched on a sore point nonetheless. In the islands it was scarce unheard of for a strong, ambitious uncle to dispossess a weak nephew of his rights, and usually murder him in the bargain. But I am not weak, Theon told himself, and I mean to be stronger yet by the time my father dies. [...] [Asha-as-Esgred, to Theon:] "Euron Croweye has no lack of cunning, though. I've heard men say terrible things of that one." Theon shifted his seat. "My uncle Euron has not been seen in the islands for close on two years. He may be dead." If so, it might be for the best. Lord Balon's eldest brother had never given up the Old Way, even for a day. His Silence, with its black sails and dark red hull, was infamous in every port from Ibben to Asshai, it was said. -Theon II, aCoK
by theon's next chapter, when he and (unknown, to him) asha discuss their greyjoy uncles, theon has learned that euron hasn't been seen in the iron islands for two years. atp, rather than just noting that euron's not at home, theon has decided it's for the best if he's died somewhere and can never return. the word terrible is again used wrt euron and it's also said that his ship is infamous all over the world. euron is the only greyjoy never to have given up the old way in any sense, and the implied danger to theon is that he could also partake in the old tradition of a strong, ambitious uncle murdering his nephew. euron has thus been establishled as a villain, a threat, and possible kinslayer more specifically but we have yet to learn all the other, more unique aspects of his villainy. i think it likely that grrm, with his gardener-writing, had not yet decided that euron was an incestuous sexual predator. the risk of nepoticide is enough to explain theon's nervous shifting at the mention of euron's cunning and the terrible things said of him, but it could also apply to euron's full characterization only revealed years later in aeron's pov, one of those little half-open seeds gardener-grrm could decide to grow later.
[Robb Stark, to his assembled bannermen and his mother:] "Euron Greyjoy is no man's notion of a king, if half of what Theon said of him was true. Theon is the rightful heir, unless he's dead . . . but Victarion commands the Iron Fleet. I can't believe he would remain at Moat Cailin while Euron Crow's Eye holds the Seastone Chair. He has to go back." -Catelyn V, aSoS
our next clue about theon/euron is not from his own pov but in the book between his arcs when he's "offscreen". i'd say the fact that theon had confided to robb at all about euron is significant, let alone that he related enough things about euron for robb to rhetorically dismiss half of what theon told him and still feel confident of ironborn infighting with euron on the throne. (with theon's status unknown and asha absent from the isles too, euron would have a claim to that throne and a better one than victarion regardless as the eldest surviving greyjoy. vic is the dutiful younger brother who wouldn't normally make any power play, so for robb to know that euron's rule would be challenged by his younger brothers shows he does indeed have insider intel wrt euron.)
this accurate read from robb stands in pretty, ahem, stark contrast to everything theon must have told robb and himself about the likelihood of a robb/balon alliance. an impartial observer who knew (as theon did) that balon's first rebellion was about bringing back the old way more than just independance from the iron throne would have known those goals were not in line with the kitn's cause and that alliance was a no-go from the start. we see in the quoted portion of theon i above how he lied to himself about balon becoming a cautious old man and this being his time in the sun, yet it seems euron was the one family member he couldn't lie to himself about. not only did euron make such an impression on him that theon always remembered him very clearly but the effect was such that amid all his hostage time at wf fantasizing about his return home, he felt the need to tell robb the truth about this one scary relative by confiding in him with multiple stories. (though if euron had sexually abused theon, i can't imagine him ever explicitly revealing that to robb or anyone else.)
"My uncle[Victarion] is never coming back," Reek told them[the ironmen Victarion abandoned at Moat Cailin]. "The kingsmoot crowned his brother Euron, and the Crow's Eye has other wars to fight. You think my uncle values you? He doesn't. You are the ones he left behind to die. He scraped you off the same way he scrapes mud off his boots when he wades ashore." -Reek(/Theon) II, aDwD
this is euron's only name-drop in theon's dance pov, significant only in that it shows theon had recent news of his uncles, enough to know that euron dgaf about keeping balon's northern conquests and had instead drawn vic and the other captains far away. which brings me to ...
Crowfood. Theon remembered. An old man, huge and powerful, with a ruddy face and a shaggy white beard. He had been seated on a garron, clad in the pelt of a gigantic snow bear, its head his hood. Under it he wore a stained white leather eye patch that reminded Theon of his uncle Euron. He'd wanted to rip it off Umber's face, to make certain that underneath was only an empty socket, not a black eye shining with malice. Instead he had whimpered [...] -Theon I, tWoW
here, we have theon meeting a non-bolton northman he's known before, no different really from all the non-bolton northmen inside wf or any others he'd met growing up there, none of whom really seemed to scare him as his captors did, yet the mere sight of mors "crowfood" umber's eye patch is enough to freak theon the fuck out, wanting to rip off the eye patch for reassurance that crowfood was just a regular guy. this is the kind of terror we'd expect wrt ramsay, which would make sense in that regard, as ramsay had been his most immediate abuser, torturing theon in every sense for around a year almost right up until the moment of his escape, and ramsay's still right there in wf, so theon had good reason to still fear recapture by him. euron, though? that's an uncle he hadn't seen in over ten years, who theon knew to be far from wf as seen in the above dance quote, so he had no reason to expect to see him again in that part of westeros and one would think he had enough immediate problems not to worry about someone he hadn't seen in so long. you'd think his pre-ned, pre-ramsay childhood with all the greyjoys would feel a lifetime away with all he'd been through since, esp the reekening. but whatever impression euron left on him was still just as clear and fresh as ever, so that anyone with an eye patch could suddenly make him feel fear of an uncle hundreds of miles and a decade removed from him. from this moment i take away two things: 1) theon will survive stannis and have to meet uncle euron again bc otherwise i don't see the point of grrm throwing this in here and 2) it now feels a helluva lot more likely that theon was another csa victim of euron's bc i don't think this kind of sudden fear could be accounted for with just general scariness from euron. feels more like being triggered by a trauma flashback (just as aeron had as soon as he heard that euron had taken balon's throne), doesn't it? and after having been recently sexually abused by ramsay all that time it makes sense that he'd be even more sensitive to reminders of another abuser as soon as he'd finally escaped ramsay, moreso than when he was just nervously shifting as he and asha vaguely talked of euron's terribleness.
after all, theon/aeron are already linked in the feastdance as both are youngest greyjoy siblings who happen to also be victims of abuse who had buried their old selves in a new identity. aeron's old self even sounds a lot like pre-ramsay theon. theon remembered pre-born-again aeron as the "most amiable of his uncles, feckless and quick to laugh, fond of songs, ale, and women", and aeron described his younger self as "a sack of wine with legs. He would sing, he would dance [...] he would jape and jabber and make mock. He played the pipes, he juggled, he rode horses and could drink more than all the Wynches and the Botleys, and half the Harlaws too." doesn't that sound like the ever-smiling and joking unserious theon we first met, fond of wine and womanizing, once a good dancer, and better ahorse than most ironborn? the only part really missing for theon is aeron's ability to always win literal pissing contests. you'd think being sexually abused by two different evildoers (euron and ramsay) would be enough of a parallel, but this winds preview chapter certainly makes it seem like they also shared the specific experience of being abused by euron in childhood too. our poor youngest kraken really did never have a chance, did he?
shoutout to this post detailing the evidence of theon's sa by ramsay for inspiration. ik i'm not the first to suggest abuse by euron too, but thought it useful to make the case by laying out all the relevant quotes as evidence.
#valyrianscrolls#asoiaf#asoiaf meta#theon greyjoy#euron greyjoy#aeron greyjoy#what is dead may never die#i really do think asha is the only younger kin euron hasn't been sexually invasive w in some way#vic was too close in age and too big so he raped vic's wife instead and parades naked in front of him#obvsly there would still be shame for an ironborn lady to be raped but we see in aeron's twow chap and w the way vic treated the maester#how much more stigma there would be for a male victim. so if euron tried anything w asha theres some chance it gets back to balon but#he knows that boys would never feel safe revealing such a crime#funny how even w bastardized tv!euron i saw showfans getting creepy sex vibes from his two scenes w fam#cw sa mention#cw csa#theon thursday!#(c)lsb
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me when it's so fucking over
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barbrey being so absolutely mad with bloodlust daydreaming about feeding ned's bones to her hunting hounds that theon says her smiles reminds him of ramsay's holy shit i need her so bad
#liveblog tag#adwd liveblog tag#lady dustin are you free on thursday night when i am free to hang out on thursday night#such a shame about the whole [gestures] because pre-all of that theon would've been so rabdily desperate to fuck her
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Theon Greyjoy BDSM Dungeon Thursday
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Morning losers💕
10:43am EST
Bringing back the basic Snapchat filter lol
My back is no better and I’m starting to freak out…I have some family coming to see me today which will be nice
My cousin is coming on Thursday for a couple days to take me to the specialist and to make sure I’m doing okay
Hopefully my partner will be able to come because I really can’t do this alone anymore
On a happier note..
Here’s Theon in a hat:
Remember
You are loved
You are wanted
Take your meds
Drink your water
Be kind to yourself
#manic pixie dream girl#personal#mental illness#mental health#bipolor#girls with piercings#mentalheathawareness#hypomania#me#bipolar 2#mental health awareness#back injury#girl blogging#girl blogger#tumblr girl#morning losers#morning selfie#morning post#red head#red hair#ginger#selfie#minors do not interact
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something is so fundamentally wrong with me because why did i fall down the rabbit hole of theon greyjoy and robb stark being gay and in love and why am i reading their modern aus on ao3 at 3 am on a thursday night !! on top of all that misery, im like 13 years late to the party! everyone has moved on and im just like hello why did nobody tell me there’s a tragic childhood best friends to lovers to enemies (death trope too) in game of thrones..???
#game of thrones#robb stark#theon greyjoy#robb stark/theon greyjoy#theon greyjoy/robb stark#robb stark & theon greyjoy#gays in got
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trying sooooo so hard to get my spooky ghost theon wip done in time for halloween. we are 15k words in and the in the end is in sight but I’ve still got some pretty major scenes I need to finish plus the ending and then I have to EDIT the damn thing and fill in all my placement holder brackets etc and then do a “would he fucking say that?” pass and also I have work and sleep and stuff during the day SO. ig we’ll see if I can get all that done by thursday 😭
#it’s dire out here like I am out here on google docs in the bathroom at work 😭#and I’ve been having some rough writers block on a big important argument scene bc there’s Much going on#both externally and internally and i want it all to come across genuinely and also yk. have emotional impact on the reader etc#I’ve written parts of it but trying to get it all out together in a way that feels natural is harddddd#plus idk if it’s spooky enough overall…….i can’t stop writing in comedic bits about the inherent silliness of this ghost situation 😭
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Mod's Crush Competition Round 1
Hey guys! Based on the poll I sent out, it looks like some of you wanted to see what kind of fictional crushes I've had and of course I'm more than happy to oblige...
These are all crushes I've had through my lifetime so not all of them are current. Some of them I can explain and others make me question my life choices. They're also all male because I'm only attracted to men. (Maybe next time I'll do a tournament with your guys' crushes)
I tried to limit it to 3 characters per franchise but Yugioh ended up with 5 because there are so many series and I have seen all of them (It's been a very important fandom in my life). I also tried my best to not overrun it with anime. I admit my number of fictional crushes spiked when I started watching anime though. They know how to make them pretty.
Anyways, let's take a look at our bracket:
I am already dreading some of these matchups. For the first round, I am going to split the polls between 2 days. The first half will go up on Tuesday, September 26. The second half will go up on Thursday, September 28. All polls will last a week.
Some reminders:
Please be nice! To me and to fellow voters. I know I've had some weird crushes (and I don't mind if you think I'm weird) but I won't accept hate. If there's a problem, be civil.
Have fun! Don't take this too seriously because it's just a little Tumblr tournament I'm doing for fun and I just want people to enjoy it.
Since the pictures in the bracket are so small, matchups will be under the cut and link to the polls once they start.
Tuesday, September 26 polls
Levi Ackerman (Attack on Titan) vs Finnick Odair (The Hunger Games)
Rocket (Guardians of the Galaxy) vs The Corinthian (The Sandman)
Peter Pan (Once Upon a Time) vs Shun Kurosaki (Yugioh Arc-V)
Koushi Sugawara (Haikyuu) vs Manitoba Smith (Total Drama)
Sebastian Moran (Moriarty the Patriot/Yuukoku no Moriarty) vs Griff Jones (Bunk'd)
Shun Ibusaki (Food Wars/Shokugeki no Soma) vs George Weasley (Harry Potter)
Kenya Yukimiya (Blue Lock) vs Chase Davenport (Lab Rats)
Seishiro Nagi (Blue Lock) vs Karma Akabane (Assassination Classroom)
Ryou Bakura (Yugioh DM) vs Mycroft Holmes (BBC Sherlock)
Doppo Kunikida (Bungou Stray Dogs) vs Newt (The Maze Runner)
Nathaniel Kurtzberg (Miraculous Ladybug) vs Trey Clover (Twisted Wonderland)
Five Hargreeves (The Umbrella Academy) vs Luck Voltia (Black Clover)
Feitan Portor (Hunter x Hunter) vs Tsuchigomori (Toilet Bound Hanako-kun)
Kyoya Ootori (Ouran High School Host Club) vs Viktor (Arcane)
Horace Somnusson (Miss Peregrine's Home for Peculiar Children) vs Percy de Rolo (The Legend of Vox Machina/Critical Role)
Hikaru Hitachiin (Ouran High School Host Club) vs Tetsurou Kuroo (Haikyuu)
Thursday, September 28 polls
Hiccup Haddock III (How to Train Your Dragon) vs Spike Spiegel (Cowboy Bebop)
Eita Semi (Haikyuu) vs Leona Kingscholar (Twisted Wonderland)
Keigo Takami/Hawks (My Hero Academia) vs Colt Grice (Attack on Titan)
Theon Greyjoy (Game of Thrones) vs Azul Ashengrotto (Twisted Wonderland)
Noah (Total Drama) vs Ango Sakaguchi (Bungou Stray Dogs)
Quattro Arclight/IV (Yugioh Zexal) vs Edward Elric (Fullmetal Alchemist)
Millard Nullings (Miss Peregrine's Home for Peculiar Children) vs Jackal (Fairy Tail)
Shin (Seven Deadly Sins: Grand Cross) vs Mihaya (Snow White with the Red Hair)
Ryokan Kogami/Revolver (Yugioh Vrains) vs Tamaki Amajiki/Suneater (My Hero Academia)
Bran Stark (Game of Thrones) vs Rogue Cheney (Fairy Tail)
Gray Fullbuster (Fairy Tail) vs Klaus Baudelaire (A Series of Unfortunate Events)
Shouta Aizawa/Eraserhead (My Hero Academia) vs Reo Mikage (Blue Lock)
Kento Nanami (Jujutsu Kaisen) vs Sanji (Live Action One Piece)
Scott (Total Drama) vs Kurapika (Hunter x Hunter)
Farkle Minkus (Girl Meets World) vs Seung-gil Lee (Yuri on Ice)
Phaser Ryugu (Yugioh Go Rush) vs Franken Stein (Soul Eater)
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Tag 9 people you want to get to know better
Thank you so much to @sedailanderekaden and @aenvittorielle for tagging me and getting to know you better - I enjoyed reading your answers tremendously! 🥰😗
Now, let the game begins! 😉
Three ships:
Cirillach (surprise surprise I know 😆 but I love them so much!) ❤️
Theonsa (Theon/Sansa from GoT 🥺❤️)
Normero (Norma Bates/ Sheriff Alex Romero from Bates Motel 💔)
And many more... 😉
Last song:
In my defence – by my beloved Freddie Mercury! ❤️❤️
Last movie:
Currently revisiting old classics, so my last movie was Cat on a Hot Tin Roof from 1958. Absolutely brilliant performance from Liz Taylor and Paul Newman!
Currently reading: I am always reading at least two books simultaneously. At the moment it is: The Thursday Murder Club by Richard Osman and The Master and Margarita by Mikhail Bulgakov (which I am rereading for nth time!)
Currently watching:
Inside the Mind of Freddie Mercury - Actually I found this by accident scrolling hopelessly through Netflix – hope it will be a good documentary.
Currently consuming:
Sage and Mint Tea (Lent is difficult time 😉 )
Currently craving:
Everything that I decided to give up during Lent – from crisps to chocolate and my beloved Pepsi Max! 😆
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Tagging @xuelingxu @ysangre-fa @craiteys @fonsmortem @cirimanga @aquakaris @caelmewedd @dclcq @eleha-mara 🥰😗
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theon thursday or throw him down the stairs thursday or whatever you want to call it
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House of the Dragon s01e05 We Light the Way // Game of Thrones s02e06 The Old Gods and the New // House of the Dragon s01e05 We Light the Way // A Clash of Kings by George R. R. Martin, Chapter LVI, Theon V // House of the Dragon s01e07 Driftmark // Game of Thrones s02e03 What Is Dead May Never Die // House of the Dragon s01e07 Driftmark // Game of Thrones s02e07 A Man Without Honor // House of the Dragon s01e07 Driftmark // A Clash of Kings by George R. R. Martin, Chapter LVI, Theon V // House of the Dragon s01e07 Driftmark // A Clash of Kings by George R. R. Martin, Chapter XXXVII, Theon III // A Clash of Kings by George R. R. Martin, Chapter LVI, Theon V // House of the Dragon s01e07 Driftmark // Game of Thrones s02e06 The Old Gods and the New // House of the Dragon s01e09 The Green Council // Game of Thrones s01e04 Cripples, Bastards and Broken Things // House of the Dragon s01e09 The Green Council // A Clash of Kings by George R. R. Martin, Chapter LXVI, Theon VI // House of the Dragon s01e09 The Green Council // A Clash of Kings by George R. R. Martin, Chapter XLVI, Bran VI // House of the Dragon s01e09 The Green Council // Game of Thrones s02e03 What Is Dead May Never Die //
#gotedit#hotdedit#asoiaf#theon greyjoy#alicent hightower#long post#(c)lsb#in the entitled quote ali's being somewhat irrational and unfair bc nyra did not take an eye she's not trying to keep it away#rhaenyra was only trying to protect her own little boy whose eye alicent felt entitled to#while theon thought asha wanted him dead when she came to wf to save him tho she didnt have to and hes wishing her ill#and then we don't have a direct reaction to 'now they see you as you are' but you can see the words before that getting under ali's skin#making her look even more hurt and bewildered by her former bff than she already was on this night when her son was maimed#compared to theon still hurt by robb's ingratitude months later and caring abt being liked in wf even after his men killed some of the folk#so that's more a vibes based thing but the rest should be self-explanatory#happy theon thursday!#the book citations are so detailed bc i had this fully edited almost a week ago scheduled for next theon thursday#so i kept coming back to the queue to look at my work and make small little edits#tv: house of the dragon#tv: game of thrones
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happy no gods down there only rats no heroes here only whores thursday
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I have another round of interviews this week (YAY) AND I also gotta find some motivation for myself to keep applying.
GOt some catchup to do only at 4 jobs for the month and trying to be at one per day so we'll catch up in a bit.
The one interview I have tomorrow is for an Interfaith Job and like while I've done interfaith community work before I am soooo unsure about my actual skills that may or may not translate to the role. So curious as to what the interview will look like tomorrow. Imma put my best forward but it's def the MOST imposter syndrome how the hell did I land an interview for this type I've felt yet.
Anyways two more interviews on Thursday. One for a training associate job that I think will go okay and one for a local private school which seems the most wild I got a follow up call on AND YET I think that job (and maybe the one tomorrow) would be theones that teach me most about the local area.
IDK mostly late night rambling because I think I need to journal more and I'm hella anxious so tumblr gets a bit of it tonight.
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I know I said I was going to euthanize subway au but I have to just say that Domeric is the type of silly goose to wear a 3 piece suit to a club and ask to see their wine list
#jfc Domeric stop saying ‘ici garçon’ to the bartender ur at remix on a Thursday evening and Theon is wearing assless chaps#he makes Barb pick them up in her 2001 Pontiac sunfire and he just complains about how he couldn’t get a cab sauv#‘it was obscene they had no idea what I meant by a jovial aftertaste’#meanwhile theon is projectile vomiting his 9 vodka crans out the window#ok I’m done beating this dead horse#get it because Domeric. likes horses and is also dead#subway au
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