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"Marinette is forgiving"
Yes, but not towards the two 14 year old assholes. But specifically forgiving to the.
Asshole that gave Hawkmoth all the miraculous, and then. Hawkmoth himself because?? Poor little man lost his wifey and he was oh sooo sad about it he had to terrorize all of Paris.
No yeah, definitely deserving of forgiveness.
I WONT SHUT UP ABOUT THIS PLOT POINT UNTIL ITS CHANGED IDC
You will NEVER convince me that Gabriel fucking Agreste or even fucking Felix are more deserving of forgiveness than Chloe and Lila.
I dont wanna hear SHIT.
#j.p speaks#mlb salt#i like marinette (to an extent) BUT YALL CANT DENY THIS IS STUPID AS FUCK.#and if yall can bash and salt on Chloe and Lila for writer decisions.#then so can I. but im not salting on Marinette just pointing out actually canon shit that makes no sense#its all about 'these girls dont deserve a second chance!!'#'but gabriel does!!'#SHUT UP WHO THOUGHT THAT WAS SMART? FUCK YOU.#miraculous ladybug#ml leaks#ml writing salt
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looking for fics and seeing how many there are rewriting how the arc about Lila was being handled and I'll be honest. I don't think about it much on my own (it's hard for me to enjoy Lila based eps so I usually erase it from my mind lmao) but. Man
Now Im just thinking about how cool it would be for Marinette and Adrien to work together during the arc instead of... whatever it was lol. For *both* of them to experience temporarily loss of friends, and have solidarity in the pain. To be eachothers confidante and support eachother. To be a hidden duo of Adrien and Marinette in daylight and ladybug and cat noir at night, so the two characters form a closer bond.
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#miraculous ladybug#i worded this vaguely and weirdly compared to what im thinking of but.#it be cool if we actually had lila be more active in helping gabriels grip on adrien.? they didnt do much in the show#part of that is just the lies in the show being poor but#lila could totally tell gabriel how people like nino and his classmates are bad or unsafe for adrien#further isolating adrien from anyone except her while also telling everyone else that adrien just doesnt like them that much#by not having adrien be places it gives lila the chance to wrongly speak on his behalf more#then adrien and marinette could both start to be disliked and distrusted by classmates and kept out of class events#to the point where they secretly meet during them and use it as a chance to support eachother emotionally#and honestly. adrien and his writing has him as an abused kid. i dont mind his lack of confrontion in canon since its for that reason#its realistic and fear of confrontation i just part of his civilian character to me#BUT he could still support Marinette and be a friend to her. and they could still plan against lila to try and slowly work on revealing her#marinette and adrien in s4 STILL feel like two people who are in the same class and friend group but dont really know eachother#i think even a temporary duo like that could let them be so much closer and have us finally get over how mari is about him#my post#tag rambles#i can see why theres so many fix rewrites of lilas arc now since there really is just. so many bttwr ways to handle it#i mean the canon way is pretty much the worst handling possible but i really love the fics for it#ml salt
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Gale Reviews: ML season 4 episode 12 Crocoduel
(Spoilers below)
-So Kitty Section is playing. I gotta say... the outfits do not look as good as they did in the dark. I cant take them seriously with the little cat gesture. Im chuckling
-Oh look Zoe is there.
-That JULROSE HUG IS GOOD S***
-But Marinette isnt there for some reason.
-Luka thinks its his fault.
-Rose sweetie, I love you but no.
-Luka looks so sad... Okay no cap. This is kind of relatable. Look at them developing Luka.
-"I cant tell him Marinette is super embarrassed." Well yea, those outfits do not look good in the daylight. Except Ivans. THAT BOY IS STYLING
-Okay so Zoe being there is nice but it just reminds us that MARINETTE WAS FINE SEEING LUKA EARLIER! (Im sorry this plot hole really f***ing annoys me) (not gonna impact the score. Just need it to be known.
-So They plotting to have marinette and Luka talking again. by throwing Luka and Juleka a party. Cause their birthdays
-Out of context, them being happy adrien isnt there sounds REALLY bad.
-Juleka doesnt seemed sold on the idea...but JULROSE CHEEK KISS.
-Marinette Figured that out in like 20 seconds.
-"Luka loves me but I love Adrien!" just gonna memorize that line
-But Alya is right, they do need to talk
-Marinette does have a point tho. She doesnt want to hurt his feelings. You know, Marinette does care about his feelings and doesnt want to hurt him but she avoids actually talking with the person because she believes she is sparing their feelings.... HOLY S*** THE PARALLELS TO LADYNOIR.
-Marinette stealthed in a garbage can... HOW CAN PEOPLE HATE HER?!
-Marinette is putting a lot of unintentional pressure on Juleka.
-Okay so I really like this scene with Juleka and Luka. it is a good brother sister moment. Luka knows she was hiding something and cared to ask.
-JAGGED JUST SHOWED UP!
-And Jagged not noticing his daughter... dude not cool.
-And Anarke is here! Time for PARENTAL SMACK DOWN
-Jagged is not subtle
-Jagged dove out the window! The man is trying to be a decent dad now. So I will give him points for trying. and 3 points for that landing
-Poor juleka. She has so much pressure on her. And Luka looks so giddy. (or as giddy as his character model will allow)
-Juleka is standing there... the guilt... poor girl. Marinette why did you make her go through that.
-And the plan obviously backfired. SO LUKA IS GONNA GET TARGETED NUMBER 3!
-What akuma would he have he had anyway? I wonder if its like tear drops on my guitar
-Wow... Um that was touching. The group showing they care about Luka. That is sweet and prevents an akuma. NO ONE IS ALLOWED TO SALT ON THEM TODAY.
-Shadowmoth just like "They are teens.. SOMEONE WILL BE DEPRESSED"
-Now Shadowmoth focused on Juleka.
-Wait... doesnt Juleka have a charm at this point?! THE AKUMA WOULDNT HAVE WORKED? Yeesh the plotholes in this.
- Marinette comforted Juleka. It is still cute
- Jagged stone showing up to his kids party.
-Shadowmoth mothblocked twice.
-Everyone is shocked that Jagged stone is their dad. And Hawkmoth is going for attempt number 3
-AND FAILURE. Shadowmoth keeps getting dunked on. Even shadowmoth realizes it
-"Why do you think your dad loves luka more" Sees Dad give son gift and not to tell Juleka. NOT EVEN 10 SECONDS
-And Jagged proves he is an awful dad... And I got my hopes up.
-Shadowmoth you tried that already
-Marinette channeling her angry gremlin energy to yell at him. I love it
-plot twist HE ISNT A BAD DAD! The gift was for Juleka! And he was trying to be subtle. WELL PLAYED JAGGED. you escape my wrath for now. BUT SO HELP ME... I WILL BREAK YOUR FACE IF YOU MAKE HER CRY.
-Shadowmoth's consistent failure makes me laugh
-The album that caused their seperation? Oh damn
-Shadowmoth is like "FINALLY A DIVORCE!"
- Wait... the item broke as it was getting akumatized?! HOW DOES THAT WORK?!
-guitar villain vs CAPTAIN HARDROCK! AKUMA FIGHT! PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF EVERYTHING. PLEASE DONT MAKE THIS BORING!?
-I love this already. Also Alya is acting to get a distraction.
-Ladybug arrives. And they are fighting...
-Adrien is make up first and safety second.... I love him so much
-Oh wow CANON is not nice to Ladybug. (thank you I will be here all week)
-CHIMNEY CHAN!
-Chat noir saving Ladybug... a nice change of pace.
-Ladybug doesnt even know she is already in love with him. (Ladynoir banter at its finest.)
-Chat noir... you have a jetpack power up.
-SKY FIGHT!!!!
- oH MAN THIS FIGHT Looks fun
-Shadowmoth is so done already.
-And ladybug learns the lesson of the day... Talk it out.
-Well that was suspect. (so help me if Luka figures it out...)
-JULEKA HERO DEBUT TIME!
-ROARR!
-I love the purple tiger. He really brings out the wild side
- The transformation is great. I love it
- Chat noir happy to meet another cat hero.
-THEY HAVE A SPACE POWER UP! WHY DID HE NEED TO LAUNCH THEM?!
-Oh.. that is interesting. It has to be put together for the akuma to come out. Interesting.
-Chat noir is clutch today.
-Thats where the tape comes in.
-OH HER POWER IS Collision?
-So its like... a Super punch? Neat.
-And now that it was all together it could be destroyed.
-They almost died in the air.
-So many people almost died.
-Oh neat two charms in one!
-Juleka spoke up! Oh no. I LOVE HER EVEN MORE NOW!
-And father daughter moment is cute.
-Now for Luka and Marinette finally talk.
-And they both agree to be friends
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Overall 8 out of 10. (Not including the Plot holes. with plot holes included. 7 out of 10)
I will say this, Great episode for the Couffaine family. All of them got some Development. (well anarke was a bit lacking but still)
Juleka was MVP. And I am glad Marinette and Luka are friends.
It was cute and the fight wasnt boring. I think they could have done a bit more with it. But it was fine. The comedy was on point.
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IN NEW YORK YOU CAN BE A NEW— Hero :3
My ML NY Special review/thoughts
First things first, I love this whole intro sequence they had going for the special. Really takes me in for the ride that they’re going International. Anywhoosies, the following are majority of my thoughts as I chronologically had them as I watched the special.
Starting off: SPACE POWERS SPACE POWER SPACE POWERS :o
I know they’re just friends, but im just saying Chat, not everyone goes out of their way to research rose colors to give to their “friends” ;3
CONGRATS ON THE BABY MS. BUSTIER!!!!!!!! May we meet your baby in ANY of the next two seasons. :3
Sock Washington Adrien and Marinette’s growth :’3 I love the analogies for her good FRIEND she uses.
Nathalie in bed rest from the peacock miraculous low key makes me wonder if Emílie started there first before. . . Well, ending up out.
I LOVE that this is an ACTUAL post S3 film. Most special films are made with that “description” to be inserted in any season, but they always feel off with continuity in the main series. Here we carry on that that although Adrigami and Lukanette are in the steps of “building” towards something from S3. . . We see that Adrienette/Ladynoir is just . . . Not going away anytime soon :3
The Ladybug kitty beeper 🥺 I want one. Gimme
Plagg: See any supervillains around??
(Idk. Try below the house 😬)
I love to see Kagami. I see she’s supportive of Adrien and his feelings with toughness lol.
Not gonna lie I low key actually think it’s sweet that Luka is so supportive of Marinette in general? He’s such a secure and good guy. I really could never (I actually forgot about the salt and comments about how he’s bland while watching him in this minute he had lol) He wasn’t bad. He was just here.
Marinette lights up Adrien’s thoughts/problems and he doesn’t even know it lol Boy can go from “Oh no, Ladybug is gonna be so pissed” to “OMG Marinette is here :D”
In regards to Alya: I didn’t know NYC was a “romantic” city. I just thought it was “flashy” lol
The SUNSETTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT VIEWEWWWW and the HUGHGGGGGGGGKVDXHHXHXEEEEEEEERRDUURUTXITCTICTCITUTXOCOHVURSUZIFDIEURJJUSDIFIAWEKVMMVVFJHSHTYETIFJCHgshjfjdufii—
Nino FINALLY said it 👁👄👁 “Adrien is a baby chick coming out of his shell”. He straight up called out his own bro on his absentness. . . #wokenino
Ok, Majestia’s badass. I like her in this a lot and she’s a MOTHERRERFVHDYSYHFJYSIRKG GC DFUKGJG—
Sorry. Better luck next year, Domacles 🥺
“IN NEW YORK YOU CAN BE A NEW MAN!!!”
Alya’s pointing XD . . . Annnnd Adrien missing the sign U_U
“The croissants are en route” BITCH I—
But Adrien, dear, PLEASE catch a hint :’3
No, Chloe! Don’t throw the mini Lafayette D:
I LOVE the new girls, Jess and Aeon so much
💕Sabrina x American Boy💕 that’s all. This matters to me
Kim found a buff friend to do buff things with🥺
We need a Hot Dog Dave in our real lives. A hero that brings free food. Hmmmm
Flying Adrienette . . . Dancing, together 🥺 UGH THEYRE SO IN LOVEEEEEEEE
Marinette AND Adrien’s Worst Continous ENEMY: Automatic Doors still
I’m trying SO HARD not to make anymore Hamilton references in this special 👁👄👁
American villains have the “common sense” Hawkmoth lacks. Technopirate:“Why do you want jewels? Don’t you want a bomb? No? Umm, okay?”
Chat Noir blowing his cover because Marichat!!!!!! Not gonna lie I found myself yelling a lot in excitement
. . . And THEN I found myself crying because seeing Ladybug being ACTUALLY LEVEL 9,000 mad at Chat Noir made my heart hurt. Ladybug chill 🥺
Lafayette was an American miraculous holder!!! 👁👄👁
These entire scenes. . . I don’t EVER wanna see them like hurt this again.
Oh yeah, Hawkmoth does stuff. The girls work to seek LB and CN as all adult heroes are going mad.
And the reunion 💕💕💕💕💕🥺🥺🥺💕💕
I just really love to see that even though they’re both “moved on” from their “love”, they keep coming back to and caring for each other. . . Those fist bumps are now equal to passionate Ladynoir kisses to me 🥺
LOOK AT THE AMERICAN HOLDER!!!!!!! I didn’t see this coming at alll and I’m fucking PLEASED with what we got. A Native American girl being a holder. *chefs kiss* I’m so freaking happy guys.
(Rip Paris but NY has bigger problems lol)
Omg Justicia and Knight Owl are together💕 I’m pretty sure that’s canon if you catch my drift 👀
Kind of an afterthought but I was a bit surprised to see the space powers shown kind of secondhand in this. I still hope to se them more in action within the show. Chat’s space costume looks gorgeous mimicking a night sky.
This special brought loves square fluff, hurt, super gays, more people of color, good insight on what the US is doing with their heroes, and a posible birth of more American holders? This isn’t even past the tip of the iceberg but this episode brought good stuff!!!!
10/10!!!!
#miraculous new york#ml New York#ml new york spoilers#ml new york special#ml spoilers#ml ny#ml ny special#miraculous ladybug new york special#ml#miraculous ladybug#miraculous ladybug and chat noir#ml thoughts
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What your Favorite Miraculous Ladybug Ship says about you
Title is simple, im just gonna get started. No ships shall be spared and my mouth shall not be stopped, so yeah warning for those who are under 18 or otherwise don’t want their innocent minds peirced.
Also, considering there are many different reasons for shipping, im just gonna put them all in dot points as subtypes
Adrinette (Adrien X Marinette)
You are a Miraculous Ladybug fan
You like keeping things canon and/or endgame
You are a Marinette stan
You hate the season 3 finale.
LadyNoir (Ladybug X Chat Noir)
Your ideal love dynamic is bantering with occasional puns.
You probably think that Ladybug should treat Chat Noir better than she did in Reflekdoll.
You liked Oblivio.
You are an Adrien stan.
You hate the season 3 finale
MariChat (Marinette X Chat Noir)
You are a fan of the ‘Friends to Lovers’ trope
You want to be wooed by Cat Noir and his many puns.
Evilustrator is your favorite season 1 episode
You have an addiction for the dramatic irony of two people talking about the people they love, not realising that their love is right in front of them.
You hate the season 3 finale.
Ladrien (Ladybug X Adrien)
You have an addiction for two lovestruck dorks not being able to talk with eachother or make any proper sentences.
On the other end of the spectrum, you think Ladybug would be the domme in the relationship once they are older, and probably have discovered a fantasy of being tied up by Ladybugs yoyo.
You hate the season 3 finale
The Lovesquare(tm) (You know which one im talking about)
You like getting teased nonstop for 3 seasons straight by a garden gnome who can’t write relationships, so he hides behind 5 seasons worth of akumas so he doesn’t have to.
Any time that either of the ships are in the same frame doing something cute, your brain is screaming at the screen for the two of them to kiss.
You are a fan of Oblivio
You are also a fan of that sleeping pic in Startrain.
Oh yeah, you also hate the season 3 finale.
DJWifi (Alya x Nino)
You like the idea of two nerds hanging out together.
Your favorite season 1 episode is Animan.
If you like them more as heroes, you probably like the idea of the two fawning over eachother like they did in that Heroes Day special.
Even if you don’t particularly ship them, you ship them anyways because it makes for great fanfic ideas about post-reveal double dates with Adrinette.
AdriNino (Adrien X Nino)
You probably saw those memes about the two bros being all homoerotic with eachother and thought it would make a good writing prompt. For those who don’t know what I mean, here it is:
Alyanette (Alya X Marinette)
Your a fan of two girlfriends hanging out together.
You may or may not ship Adrinino.
Based on the above point, you also think that an older Alya would make sexual innuendos when discussions ever turn to relationships, and Marinette would the innocent one who tells Alya to stop in embarrasment.
Ninette (Nino x Marinette)
On the light side of the salt spectrum (aka nonexistent) You think Nino’s crush on Marinette was cute AF in animan.
On the other side of the salt spectrum, you probably dislike Alya, or at least how much Alya has made Nino her side-dude and took away his main character rights (but i don’t blame you)
Alyadrien (Alya X Adrien)
You love Adrien, but Marinette’s inability to speak to him drive’s you so frustrated that you pair Adrien with Alya because you think Adrien should have a relationship with someone he can Actually talk to.
If its Rena Rouge and Chat Noir, you could also be interested in Chat Noir finding a new incredibly amazing person to crush on. Or just a superhero rebound. Who knows?
If you age up the characters, There’s a good chance you are incredibly horny. No seriously. I searched up the ship on AO3 and found that most to all of the fics I found on Alyadrien led to some smut story. If you like this ship and go on AO3, you can only be horny. Only exception applies to the next ship
If you ship the two of them as civilians, you have either have an interest in Cheating, or the idea of Alya stealing Adrien from Marinette ‘just because’. If you ship the two of them as heroes, you like the idea of them have a ‘friends with benefits’ style relationship where after a night of partrol they sneak off to romp.
Alya X Marinette X Adrien X Nino
You are bisexual
You love the Entire Miraculous Nerd gang.
You have a love for non canon gay ships, but also a strong love for canon straight ships, and it tears your heart to have to choose, so you just decided to ship them all together, so everyone is happy.
You could also be horny for this ship as well if you age them up, but you could also have a desire for fluff between four people
Lukanette (Luka X Marinette)
You have an intrest for men who play guitars.
You are a fan of Luka
You are a fan of people with blue hair.
You think Marinette should move on from Adrien if she can’t even talk to him.
Inversely, you ship Adrien with someone else and just decided to ship Mari with Luka as to not be called a Marinette hater.
If you are one of the people who are still salty over Chameleon, theres a good to honest chance you ship these two because you think Luka is the ‘better Adrien’. Also you probably think Adrien is an asshole for Loving Ladybug but not loving Marinette.
Lukadrien (Luka x Adrien)
TWO OPTIONS. Either A, you have a crippling addiction to Yaoi and like the ending of Captain Hardrock, or B, you are someone like me who has a liking for the Idea of Luka swooning Adrien right in front of Marinette while she stands there gobsmacked.
If your B, this can be either for humorous reasons, romanctic reasons, or both.
Also this commercial (Watch the end and you’ll know what I mean)
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Adrigami (Adrien X Kagami)
You cannot stand Marinette’s inability to talk to Adrien, or her stalkerish tendencies. PERIOD.
You think Adrien should move on from Ladybug and be happy, but you definetely think it should NOT be Marinette for reasons above.
You have an addiction for two people that fight eachother in combat, but also love eachother. (And also want to screw each other)
You like bluenettes, but you also like Dommes.
You are a fan of the season 3 finale
Kagaminette (Kagami X Marinette)
You REALLY love bluenettes, so you say to yourself ‘I want more!’
There’s a good to honest Chance that you also ship Lukadrien, regardless of whether its romantic or not.
If its not for romantic reasons, you probably like the same idea as Lukadrien, but from the other side of the gender spectrum.
You really like those anime stories where one person is up against the wall and their prime rival/future significant other just aims their sword at their neck and using the flat end of the blade to lift the others head up.
You are probably a fan of the Ikari Gozen episode.
You probably thought that Kagami should have gotten the icecream with Marinette in heart Hunter
Lukagami (Luka x Kagami)
You gotten attached to both Luka and Kagami, but you are REALLY attached to the Adrienette ship, so you pair these two together so that they don’t feel lonely.
Actually, you dont really have to care about them personally, but you still ship them because you hate the idea of someone losing in a relationship triangle.
Adrigaminette (Adrien X Kagami X Marinette)
The reason for shipping this three is the same as Alya x Nino X Adrien X Marinette, but you either thing Nino and Alya are fine on their own, and think that all three of the aformentioned characters are too sweet to think that any of them deserved to lose in the relationship. And that is perfectly fine :)
Alternatively, you could be a Chameleon salter who is still mad at the class, but considering you ship these 3, you probably aren’t as salty as other people in the fandom, and just want some actually fluffy romance.
AdriLukaMari (Adrien X Luka X Marinette)
Love triangles. Just love triangles. And one that actually has more than 2 people so its actually more angsty.
Alternatively, if you ship all 3 of them aged up, you probably think Adrien is a bottom in the bed ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°).
Also alternatively, your fantasy is probably being swooned by two boys after your heart, but you are also a part BL fangirl.
Lukagaminette (Luka X Kagami X Marinette)
You are a Chameleon Salter, but you also probably hate Adrien, and by extension Chat Noir, and are probably one of the biggest salters that give the fandom its salty rep.
You absolutely go one AO3 to ONLY read salt fics where Lila gets exposed and defeated.
You probably read fics about Chat Noir being a stalker because you think flirting = SEXUAL HARRASMENT! You give Kudos for fics that either ‘make Chat Noir pay’ or take Adriens ring from him.
On that last note, guess who becomes the better Chat Noir?! (I am being sarcastic as hell, and of course its probably Luka)
You also hate the class and want them to either suffer, or apologise for hurting the ‘amazing, wonderful godess that is Marinette’ and kiss her feet like the dogs they are.
You probably have tunnel vision on Chameleon, and have failed to notice that aside from a that one episode, Lila hasnt impacted the show as much as you think she has in your fanfic.
You probably dont even ship Lukagaminette, because to be fair nobody ship this particular 3-pair, unless its one of the subships
You may also realized I tricked you, but I couldn’t exactly create a Salter X Salt ship, OC ships don’t count.
...Actually, there is one actual reason for liking this ship...BLUENETTES GALORE!!!
Lukadrigaminette (Luka X Adrien x Kagami X Marinette)
This is one of two things, either its the same reason as Alya X Marinette X Adrien X Nino where you just want all of them to be happy, or you are an ABSOLUTE SALTER who hates pretty much everything in the show (except Adrien) and so resorts to MAXIMUM FLUFF. You are tired of the Chameleon episode and Marinette not being treated right, tired of Adrien being treated wrong by his Father and possibly the show writers, tired of people fighting over the lovesquare (tm) and the alternate Kagmi/Luka ships, so you just ship these 4 lovable bastards and keep everyone else away from them. Fuck the class, Fuck Gabriel, Fuck Lila, fuck everyone else in the show, you want some damn happy fluff so you take these 4 and put them in the happy bubble away from the troubles of the fandom. You are the biggest salter out there, but are also the best kind of salter who wants fluff and does not give a damn.
Chloedrien (Chloe x Adrien)
Lol no XD. Nobody ships this.
But if you do like the characters, you probably think they are close as siblings.
Chloenette (Chloe X Marinette)
You used to be a Drarry fanboy/fangirl if you were a book lover, or a Sasunaru fanboy/fangirl if you are a weeb.
You are a fan of the enemies to Lovers trope
You probably want Chloe to have a proper character development.
This clip:
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Nathanette (Nathaniel x Marinette)
You believe the show has gone down since season 1.
Evilustrator is your special ep.
You keep away from the fandom because you do not want to be involved with the war between the Chloethaniel shippers and the Marcaniel shippers.
Chloethaniel (Chloe X Nathaniel)
You also think Chloe should have a proper character development, but you are also heterosexual.
You think the show has been going down since season 1.
You are probably in a secret guerrilla war with the perople who ship Marc X Nathaniel.
Chloebrina (Chloe X Sabrina)
You have an addiction for alpha bitch girls.
If you age them up, you have a secret interest in BDSM that you haven’t told anyone about.
You think that whoever is the domme is depending on how drunk an aged up Chloe is before the start of your fic.
There is a good to honest chance that you probably ship them with actual fluff and that Sabrina has a secret crush on Chloe, which is the reason you believe that Sabrina sticks by her side.
But in most fanfics where there are multiple pairings, chances are you don’t pay all that much attention to it unless its the main focus of the story.
Sabrina X anyone else
You think Sabrina deserves better.
You also hate Chloe, or you don’t, but think that Chloe and Sabrina’s relationship is unhealthy and that they should see other people.
Lukloe (Luka x Chloe)
That one comment from Chloe in Miracle Queen has been the basis of your entire ship, actual character interactions be damned.
Also, you probably think Chloe needs calming guitar guy to counteract her alpha-bitch attitude.
Your name is DEFINETELY NOT @zoe-oneesama, if your tumblr posts are anything to go by.
Julerose (Juleka X Rose)
You like keeping things canon - but not really because nothing has ACTUALLY been declared yet, just teases. But still.
You hate Princess Fragrance because of Prince Ali, and your favorite episode is likely Zombizou because kissou~
If you are part of the salt-dom. you regularly go and find people who dont ship Juleka and Rose together and send them rude messages because apparently ‘their sexist’.
AliRose (Prince Ali x Rose)
You haven’t watched Miraculous past season 1, or believe the show has been going down since then. Though really I don’t blame you.
There’s a good to honest chance that you don’t REALLY ship the two, and moreso just have them be the biggest BFF’s who are inspired by eachothers kindness and are probably pen pals with one another, because shipping people as best friends has been a thing. Good luck explaining that to the Julerose fans who keep sending death threats when they are not reblogging Julerose fanart!
Kimix (Kim x Alix)
You are a sucker for atheletes.
You are a fan of the Rivals to Lovers trope.
You believe in the inherent eroticism of daredevils who dont back down from dares.
Kimmax (Kim x Max)
You believe the school tropes about jocks bullying nerds is highly overrated, and seeing these two for the first time made you smile and ship them immediately.
You believe in the inherent eroticsm of opposites attract
Alix x Kim x Max
You like both ships a lot, and considering they don’t cause fandom wars like other CERTAIN ships in the fanom, you just quietly 3 pair this trio while other shippers throw salt and insults at eachother.
Ivan x Mylene
Everyone ships these two, but if you are one of the people who consideres them the OTP, you are probably just here for somewholesome side characters.
Marcaniel (Nathaniel x Marc)
You believe that Season 2 was the greatest thing to happen to the show in terms of the new characters it introduced.
Reverser is your favorite episode.
You are probably in a secret guerrilla war with the perople who ship Chloe X Nathaniel.
You believe in the inherent eroticism of two boys in love, and both of them are bottoms.
Kimette (Kim x Marinette)
Your name is @lunian, your ship came out of nowhere, I am confused on what reason you shipped the two together, but I love it anyways. Keep up the good work.
GabeNath (Gabriel x Nathalie)
Either you think Nathalie’s love for Gabriel is beautiful in a tragic sort of way, or you think most of the show’s problems could have been avoided if Gabriel moved on.
Like Nathalie, you are probably attracted of Gabriels best quality... his extensive prebattle and post battle monologues.
Chlogami (Chloe X Kagami)
You believe in the inherent eroticism of deep hatred.
You ship Chlonette, but you want people who are actually at eachothers throats instead of snarky banter.
You believe the minute Kagami told Chloe to essentially piss off, Chloe should have kissed her right then and there.
Also the same video from Chlonette could be applied here.
Marinette x Entire Class
You are a diehard Marinette stan, and you have an addiction for harem fics.
Lilanette
There’s a good to honest chance you ship this because your one of those rare few people who try to ship every possible ship (without delving into the WTF-ships).
Alternatively, you have a thing for psychopathic lesbians.
Liladrien (Lila x Adrien)
You may be one of those people who ship Volpina X Chat Noir back in season 1. I mean, its nearly nonexistent, but I’ve seen some comics.
However, you are most likely someone like me, waiting for the day that a bunch of us are able to find eachother and group up together to form the ulimate group of evil, and when the time is right, we post so much Lila x Adrien stuff on the Miraculous Ladybug tag that it will cause the fandom to burst into flames as all the Marinette stans foam at the mouth and collapse in sheer anger, shock and fear of our combined terrifying might.
If you don’t know what I mean yet...er...I mean if you ship Lila x Adrien, you are a massive troll. Or you really hate Marinette’s stalker behaviour and want to see her suffer. Probably both.
Adrichat (Adrien X Chat Noir)
Your name is @buggachat, and you are the Destroyer of Logic and Bringer of Fandom Chaos.
EDIT: Forgot a ship
Kimdine (Kim x Ondine)
You just wanted good things for Ondine.
You also wanted good things for Kim, and probably hated the way Chloe treated him in Dark Cupid.
Syren is YOUR episode.
You’re probably waiting for someone to create a fanfic of Roi Singe saving Ondine from an akuma.
#Miraculous Ladybug#Miraculous Ladybug ships#warning contains some salt#But not as much as my others posts#Ok what am i kidding it probably DOES contain as much as my other posts#At least for a couple of ships
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Lets say there was no toxic Lukanette stans. And you were able to view Luka and Marinette's dynamic in its entirety. Would you ship it more then the Lovesquare?
If we are talking Canon Lukanette, not Fanon, no salt. Just pure Lukanette.
Still no. But I also have nothing against it either.
Marinette choosing Luka would be a rational choice.
What do I mean by that? Why would that be a bad thing?
Well think about it like this.
Marinette considering Luka because:
-He is someone she can talk with.
-He is encouraging
-Her friends and others comment on how good they are together.
-He has confessed to liking her civilian self.
-He is understanding, to the point of saying he is willing to wait until she is over Adrien
By all feasible logic, that would make Luka an ideal choice to date. If one was using their head.
But from an emotional perspective, I don't see Marinette’s heart in it. Like the end of Miracle Queen, only after seeing what she believed was Kagami and Adrien together. Did she shut off the feeling and went to hear Luka’s song. The rational decision in order to move on.
Im not saying she doesn't like Luka, She does like Luka, but to say it is Love is something I wouldn't really call it that.
The argument for Adrigami is actually similar in this regard.
Adrien moving on from Ladybug was based on logic, BUT he chose based on Feelings.
The problem? He was following his heart, but not his head:
-He felt Kagami and him were similar, Similar background, similar interests.
-He felt that Kagami was into him
-He felt that Kagami understood what he was going through.
But we actually see Adrien’s head have doubts in Miracle Queen. If he had simply went with what he was feeling, He probably would have kissed Kagami.
It might feel reasonable, but he knew it was not rational or Fair to do it.
But with love square. That is where the heart and mind actually blend together.
Marinette falling for Adrien wasn't based on Rational thought. She had initially dismissed him as another Chloé, The umbrella scene opened her eyes to show her that her thoughts were in accurate, that she could feel what he was really like underneath. Then her head followed suit.
Chat noir falling for Ladybug was actually less from his heart and more about knowing how to relate. His thoughts on her, how dazzling she was, how innovative, things he felt he lacked. His mind was rationally pushing him towards her. And then his feelings followed suit
Chat noir is the heart, Ladybug is the mind. They both bring out something that the other needs, both similar yet different.
Oblivio is a genius example of this.
Adrien bringing out an emotional connection between the two which helped encourage marinette to go fight.
While Marinette’s creativity and innovative nature helped inspire Adrien allowing him to find a way to help Ladybug despite his powers. (side note, seeing that ALSO made Reflekdoll super annoying when Adrien couldn't figure out the straight forward Solution, but that is a rant for another day)
At the end of the day, my opinion is my own.
This is why I just don't really ship Lukanette or Adrigami from a pure perspective. But they are fine ships. (So long as the salters aren't Demonizing Adrien or Marinette, but I rarely see toxic Adrigami shippers thank goodness.)
"Love isn't a decision, it’s a feeling. If we could decide who we love, it would be much simpler, but much less magical."
#ml#miraculous ladybug#gale's opinion#no hate on the ships#so I am tagging it accordingly#lukanette#adrigami#lovesquare#adrinette#ladynoir#marichat#ladrien
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