#then bday week and two concerts

[livingasaghost]

shit's about to hit the fan starting next weekend and then it's gonna be an all out spRINT to the end of july, not even kind of kidding

[hannieehaee]

them accidentally ditching you on your bday - pu

hhu, vu, pu

part 2

content: angsty, gender neutral, established relationship, etc.

wc: 2766

a/n: tysm to the few ppl who requested this i hope u like it! pls lmk if u want a pt. 2! i decided to go on a diff direction for minghao's for further angst hehe sorry </3

masterlist

jun -

jun's absence was always a source of sadness for you. it was hard to not miss such a special person in your life, especially when his absence was so frequent due to his career.

dating an idol was difficult, but jun always made it worth it. he kept you to himself, always prioritizing you as much as he could. no day would go by in which he didnt contact you one way or another, even if it was just a quick 'i love you.'

these past two weeks had been hectic for him. going back and forth between china and korea, and even japan all at once had him in planes almost constantly. if he wasnt at a concert, he was at a fansign, and if he wasnt at a fansign, he was at some fashion event. there was no rest for a single member of seventeen during times like these. but despite that, life had smiled at jun's exhausted state for once. he had three consecutive days off; with one of them falling on your birthday.

you had insisted that using up his very rare free time on you was unnecessary. that you'd be happy to just have him home as he slept for the entirety of the three days, but he had insisted to spend the day with him. had even convinced you to cancel all other plans you may have originally had for your special day in favor of spending it with him. he had been unable to promise you anything grandiose, cringing at himself when he told you it'd just be a nice day in between the two of you. nothing made you happier than the thought, assuring him it was more than enough.

the day prior to your birthday, he had decided to go stay with his parents. he hadnt seen them in a while, and they were currently staying in jun's home in korea, so it was perfect. he was still a bit exhausted from the previous twelve days in which had received no more than four hours of sleep at a time, but he headed straight to them the moment he landed nonetheless. it was a nice evening he had with them, catching up and being fed home cooked meals by his mom. he went to sleep a bit late, but not until after facetiming you to let you know how excited he was to to spend your birthday with you. it was 1am by then, so technically it had been your birthday already. he let you go at some point, letting you know he'd be in your home by 11am sharp with a gift in hand.

the next day came sooner than expected, with jun groggily waking up, drool on his pillow showing the very deep slumber he had fallen under. he had not slept so well in months, not having allowed himself a healthy eight hours of sleep in a very long time. it was weird, though, he felt way too well rested, more than you'd expect from a regular night of sleep. upon checking the clock he realized why. it was now 2pm .. had he slept a total of twelve hours?! how exhausted had he been? it was now three hours after the time he was supposed to be meeting you. he ran to his phone to check if you'd called, only to find it dead. he had forgotten to charge it before heading to sleep. his exhaustion had truly gotten the best of him last night.

he gave it ten minutes go charge before turning it on, immediately wincing at your ten missed calls and your dejected messages wondering why he was gone, even worrying if anything had happened until finally tracking his location and realizing he had been home the whole time. you did not have his parents' number, so it had been impossible for you to contact him. by the end of the messages you'd informed him that you'd just go for a quick lunch with your friends, letting him know that it was okay if he just stayed home with his parents if he so wished. you'd only hoped he couldve kept you in mind before changing plans.

his day off could not have gotten any worse.

soonyoung -

admittedly, soonyoung could be a bit ... air-headed at times. its not that he didnt think, but more like he acted on impulse rather than logic. this would sometimes lead him to issues in various areas of his life. including your romantic relationship.

you'd been dating soonyoung for a while, already growing used to his silly antics by now. he was a silly boy, who could blame him! you found him endearing more than anything, always making you laugh and find joy in the little things. your relationship had been nothing but fun so far. not only was he entertaining to be around, but he was also a loving boyfriend and practically obsessed with you. he was affectionate to a fault, always doting on you. at some point he became a bit of an annoyance to his members, constantly showing you off to them in your absence. just like with anything else in life, when it came to you, he didnt think much. he just went based on feelings, and his feelings for you were quite strong.

this was why you were confused as to why your boyfriend was absent at this moment. the same boy who could not go five minutes away from you (whenever his job didnt get in the way, of course) without whining, had seemingly forgotten your plans for the day.

soonyoung was supposed to return from japan this morning after two weeks of absence from your shared home. you had told him it was fine if he wanted to rest instead of doing something for your birthday, which coincidentally landed today. a day in with him was more than enough, you'd assured him, but he insisted that all he needed upon his return was a quick nap with you and then he'd be ready to head out for a night out with you. except he never showed up. you waited and waited, receiving no explanation from him. you even called him multiple times, but he mustve kept his phone on airplane mode, as he never responded. you knew how easily distracted he could be, but to straight up forget to come home was too much, even for his standards.

it wasnt until five hours after his supposed arrival that you found out what had happened to him. you received a call from a very exhausted minghao, letting you know that his driver would be dropping off soonyoung at your home shortly. he and the boys had gone for a spontaneous drink after the flight, with chan having lost some sort of bet and having to buy them all drinks as punishment upon arrival. there was no mention of your birthday during the call, making you think that it had even slipped soonyoung's mind to let his members know he had previous plans.

the annoyance you were feeling was the least of your problems at the moment. you'd probably have to deal with a drunk soonyoung as soon as he and minghao arrived, having to put your feelings aside as you took care of him in order to ensure a painless hangover the next morning, yet another day in which he had to work. not only had he forgotten you, but he had prevented you from making any plans to favor spending time with him, time which would now be spent babying him until sleep took over him.

minghao -

the day had started well. you had woken up to a beautiful message from your loving boyfriend, with a few selfies attached as he told you how much he loved you and how badly he wanted to be home with you right now to celebrate your birthday. you felt truly loved upon exiting your room to find a few different bouquets of flowers, all labeled as 'from: xu minghao', your sweet boyfriend who would always give you small showcases of his affection such as this one.

he had left before you were able to wake up, having scheduled as early as 4am. he had a fashion show to attend today, along with many other previous engagements in regards to his idol life. but you were fine with it! he had promised you time and time again that he'd be home on time by 7 or 8-ish in order to have a romantic dinner with you. this had been the birthday celebration you had been looking forward to the most. you had a quick breakfast with a few friends, along with a small brunch with some family, which meant the final and most important part of your day would come last. you were extremely excited. it was a birthday dinner with the love of your life, a luxury you did not often get due to minghao's overly packed schedule.

at 6, you began to get ready, opting for a cute outfit that would have the usually composed salivating over you. at 7, you had all dinner arrangements ready. minghao had asked mingyu to drop off some dishes earlier in the day, claiming he had wanted to cook for you himself but the fashion show would leave him with no time, instead deciding to ask his best friend to do him a solid since he had been off earlier than minghao today. everything was ready by 7:30, so now all you had to do was wait.

you waited until 8, which soon became 9, only to become 10:30 and then 11 in what almost felt like minutes. you knew your boyfriend did not carry his personal phone with him during public schedules, so you didn't bother calling him, instead choosing to confirm his location with his manager, who let you know he had been driven to an after-party at around 8:30, thirty minutes after your established meeting time.

by 11:30 you had already put on your pajamas, dejectedly picking up all the dishes and saving them for another day. you weren't just disappointed, but you were sad too. he had promised you this for days, only to pick an optional schedule over you. this was very unlike him, but you still did not want to give him a pass for his carelessness.

he came back by 12, apologizing as soon as he spotted you waiting for him on the couch, only to be interrupted by you.

"minghao ... what the fuck? you say you'll be here by 8 and just ditch me for a stupid after party? is there any explanation for this or were you just trying to be a dick?", you knew you went too hard too fast, not even letting him finish his apology, but you were mad.

the venom in your voice seemed to irritate him almost immediately, causing a scary side of minghao to come out. he was never mean, per say, but he could be a bit too cold and direct sometimes. he seemed to forget his mistake immediately, instead pining the fault on you.

"y/n, im an idol. this is my job. you know its my dream to get into the fashion field. i need networking to do that. as my partner you have to understand that. its not like i didnt warn you itd be today."

"and i do understand! but all night? you could've told me. you couldve gone back on your word and i wouldve understood, but you-"

"listen. im not gonna have a conversation if you keep yelling. calm down, and when you decide to act like an adult, ill be willing to discuss this with you," it was so easy for him to dismiss you, which shocked you. he was usually so attentive.

"are you .. are you serious? are you drunk?"

"believe it or not, we're not all waiting for this day to put all our own shit aside and celebrate. i cant believe you're not being supportive. you havent even asked me how it went, i-"

"you know what? you're right. im sorry. i hope it went great, minghao. i'm gonna go to sleep now, if you dont mind. goodnight," there was truly no use in arguing. you knew him to be incredibly stubborn, and he was starting to hurt your feelings. so you marched to sleep, deciding to take the guest room instead, slamming the door shut as you finally let yourself cry at your boyfriend's lack of care.

chan -

chan was an exemplary boyfriend. he was, for lack of a better term, down tremendously bad for you. one simple look from you and he was reporting for duty, ready to do whatever you wanted. this behavior manifested in every aspect of your relationship, making him be labeled as a bit of a simp by all your mutual friends. chan did not mind this, however, being insanely into you and willing to go through all lengths to make sure you knew how loved you were by him.

your relationship was very much like a friendship, allowing the two of you to joke around and hang out as friends would, but also having all the special benefits of a committed relationship. you'd show up for each other more than anyone else, making your bond stronger than any other in your respective lives.

you had expected this to be the same case for your birthday. you hadn't mentioned it much, knowing chan was coincidentally busy during that week. you blamed him in no way for his busy schedule, always supporting his passions and even egging him on whenever he wanted to take on even more challenges (although also scolding him whenever he burnt himself out too much). but you were still somehow expected he would at least mention it.

you were surprised to wake up that day - having fallen asleep before chan's arrival home - to no type of reaction from chan. he was already awake, almost ready to leave for yet another busy day of schedules, with no single word mentioning your birthday. you knew he was insanely busy, but not even a quick 'happy birthday'? in the back of your mind you had hoped maybe he would at least bring you flowers or something upon his return the previous night, but he had clearly headed to sleep upon arrival. for someone who was usually a romantic, his lack of reaction surprised you.

deciding not to make a big deal out of it, you didn't say anything, simply bidding him goodbye with a quick kiss and an 'i love you' to match. you had the day off, but no real plans made, so you decided to just mope around the house, maybe schedule a date with one of your friends for the evening. you had kept your schedule open in the off chance than maybe chan wouldve planned a quick little something. you knew you could've just communicated this to your boyfriend, but you had wanted the romantics sue you!

surprisingly, you received a call a few minutes after chan's departure; one from one of your closest mutual friends, one boo seungkwan. it was very likely that he had remembered today's date, very much unlike your boyfriend.

"hi, kwannie," you replied upon answering.

"baby! happy birthday!!! love you!"

you sighed, "thank you, boo. love you too."

"aigoo, something wrong? sad channie can't stay in today?", you could hear and see his pout through the phone.

"no, kwannie. it's nothing. don't worry about it," even if you were slightly annoyed, you didnt want to throw your boyfriend under the bus.

"no! tell me!! you can't be sad on your birthday, cmon!"

"well .. chan kinda, uh, forgot."

"what? did he say anything?"

"nope. just left without saying anything."

"aish, that idiot. don't worry, i'll take care of this, i'll-"

"no, kwan! it's fine. i dont wanna make a big deal out of it. you guys are busy with your comeback. it's okay, i'll get over it."

"but, baby-"

"kwan, really. i'm fine, i swear. have a good day for me, okay? love you."

he humphed, but accepted your response, "fine. you better have fun today too, though, okay? love you."

and that was the end of it. you would now probably spend the next few hours a bit dejected, not looking forward to the inevitable moment in which your boyfriend realized his mistake, knowing you couldn't really be mad at him due to his busy lifestyle, but feeling hurt nonetheless.

[biancadoes1]

I am truly trying to wrap my brain around the spiral today because I feel like we’ve had wayyy worse dropped on us in the last few months (all unfounded of course but definitely more jarring things than today’s posts). Nicola shared friends bday posts and added emojis to some of them. Oooook? JD called her sweet one. Right, ok. Nic shared a dinner which by all accounts could be with Luke… or it might not be. But she chooses to show her friends and TOLD US she prefers keep romantic relationships quiet. Ok, so…..if she’s with JD, why would she share his post and then the next slide, suddenly she’s private again? Did I miss some bomb?!

Ok let’s talk about Wednesday. Nicola went to the premier of a movie that she has several friends in and yes, that includes JD. They got out of a car and walked in together (both looking pretty peeved I might add but that could be circumstantial). And that’s all? Again, am I missing some huge relationship announcement?!

Also I hate when people say well if she was out at a premier with Luke yOu’D uSe iT aS eViDeNce that they’re together…yea, no shit. Because the situations are completely different. And we’ve seen what those two look like in love on a red carpet or event and she and JD don’t got it.

One of the anons a few posts back said it well - Nic has friends that she is going to hang out with and if that makes you have a panic when we see it, it might be time to be a silent partner. I know it feels like we are close to something and then it’s quiet again or we see her out and about at a concert or whatever and that can be defeating when all we want is a safe and secure Lukola relationship. But Bianca and the rest of the wonderful bloggers here can’t always be responsible for bringing us back to earth when we spiral away. Think about how often (aka every time) people freak and once there is time to rationally think about it, everything is fine. And babes, we’ve had a great few weeks!!! Think about all we’ve seen (and haven’t seen, this is key) of Nic and Luke. We are going to be ok ❤️❤️❤️❤️ and more importantly, we can’t be out here acting crazy

Well said!

👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[justalildumpling]

⇢ haechan as your boyfriend

pairing: haechan x reader  genre: fluff, established relationship note: happy bday to our chaotic little pudu!! im sorry for making you the punching bag of my smaus🤠

let’s be for real here, he was the one who confessed to you. it does not matter whether you liked him first, he would’ve confessed first

haechan probably would’ve just started talking to you randomly, asking to become friends and annoying the HECK out of you until you started unwillingly liking him and magically he confessed to you.

when you guys were friends, he probably would’ve hugged you and clung to you a lot but once you start dating this boy… have fun with him stuck to you 24/7! no seriously, you can’t rid of him

expect lots of back hugs, hugs from the side with him placing a soft kiss on your cheek with a playful little smile on his face, him hugging your waist whilst he’s sitting down

your hand will always be warm. if he sees you visiting him at work, he’ll excitedly grab your hand and drag you around; if you’re sitting at dinner with his members, you bet his hand will be caressing the palms of your hand; if you’re having a little cry, his hand will automatically reach for yours, fingers intertwined

so much banter, sarcasm and sass in your relationship like if your friends or anyone saw your text messages to each other, they will be concerned

he would send random photos throughout the week to let you know what he’s up to. it could be a photo of his hair getting dyed with a text saying “i bet you $20 that you can’t guess what colour im dying it this time :p” “red.” “WHAT?!!!>>! YOU WITCH! HOW DID YOU KNOW?” “lucky guess :)” it could even be a photo of his favourite chocolate snacks or a paper cut on his finger

despite your constant old married couple bickerings, haechan would hold so much love for you. he would constantly compliment you, saying that you’re the prettiest person alive, hype you up whenever you buy a new outfit and just gaze at you with a lovesick look in his eyes

that boy and his jealousy are like a match made in heaven (but in the pettiest and jokiest way possible) realistically i don’t haechan would get jealous in a serious sense like he wouldn't be insecure about himself or his trust in you at all but if he sees you hanging out his members (esp dreamies) too much, you best know the man’s gonna either be ignoring you for a bit (to annoy you) or just hanging on for dear life and shouting out how your his girl in front of everyone. 

like i can imagine you and him cuddling up in his dorm and him just randomly asking you, “me or jeno?” “huh? where is this coming from?” “answer, me or jeno?” “you, of course, what are you-” 

and haechan would get up from his bed and shout out “HAH! SUCK ON THAT JENO! Y/N LIKES ME MORE!” and jeno replying with the most confused face, “I WOULD HOPE THAT YOUR GIRLFRIEND LIKES YOU MORE THAN ME??????”

expect lots of facetime calls or just calls in general, it could literally be for a minute before he goes on stage for his tour. “hyuck why are you calling me on standby?” “because i wish you were here, you would’ve loved it here.”

he would call you after every show of his tour and despite the time differences you would still pick up, i can imagine him with his hair damp after his shower, eating a bowl of kimchi jjigae and telling you the highlights of his concert or simply singing you your favourite song as you fall asleep on call

your dates would vary between lazing around at home, watching cheesy rom-coms on netflix with a pile of snacks to going out in the city at night, making your own silly adventure and pretending that it was only the two of you in the world

the best thing about dating haechan would be that he would bring out your inner child, nourishing it and reminding you that it’s okay to have fun and to live in the moment once in a while and to forget about your worries. he would remind you to do the things you love, to make time for them whilst you’re working or whatever adulting things needs to be done. 

your relationship with him would be fun, lighthearted and healing and he would never fail to remind you that you are indeed loved and cherished, not just by him but everyone around you as well

[not-goldy]

I just know when Jennie hit send on those paris pictures, she and Tae were laughing like evil maniacs. Do tkk really think because they are a loud group and trend Tk just cause they breath next to each other, they will somehow convince people Taennie never happened and Tk is real? The entire world watched Tae & Jennie's dating life get exposed little by little, by a hacker, until they took control of their situation and went public in Paris on their own terms. The whole world is laughing at that cult. So why are Jkks even entertaining Tkk at this point? Its pointless. They are always gonna claim atomix is a private date, even with proof from Atomix it was a OT7 dinner. They will always crop members or their friends to push their ship. Its a TK private date, but all members are there. Its a TK bowling date, but Wooga is there. Its a TK skiing date, but Wooga is there. Its a TK concert date, but Nicole is there with JK for some reason and Jennie off to the side and a wooga too that Tae leaves with. Its a TK vegas date, but Hobi is there. Its a TK house date with an impromptu live, but Hobi is there. Its a TK online gaming date, but Wooga is there and Tae living with one of his Wooga members. It's a TK LA beach & dinner date, but Jimin is right there and seems RM was at that dinner, since he posted a picture. Its a TK hotel date, but other people are there. It's a TK premiere date, but other people are there. Full blown stupidity. My ship is a couple, but they don't spend couple days together, confirmed, but they do spend couple days with others, confirmed. They spend time together, but on couple days, is where they draw the line and don't? Its Tae telling us he was alone and slept through Valentines and a couple weeks later its Jk out on White Day with Jimin for me. Two couple days back to back and NOTHING from your ship. MAKE IT MAKE SENSE.

Also HELLO? Tae had another man living in his apartment. Someone he also is extremely clingy to and all over when he's around him. And MF's act like JK is jealous over Tae. Bitch please. JK don't give a fuck. Tae out here with a girlfriend and another man living at his house and MF's think JK will just be okay with all this? I'm fucking wheezing. The man was doing cartwheels on live singing Jimin songs, the day the Taennie news broke. He is the most unbothered person when it comes to Taennie. So why not leave him out of Tae's business?

Also, Its Jikook taking their first trip alone and together, but that isn't a private trip. It's Jikook together alone on Silver Day in NY, but that's not a date and Jikook in Connecticut, but that's not a private trip. It's Jikook taking a private trip to Japan before enlisting, but that's not a couple trip. It Jikook watching The Avengers with no other members, but that isn't a date. Its Jikook ice skating alone, but that isn't a date. Its Jikook out shopping alone, but that isn't a shopping date. It's Jikook together on White Day eating, but that don't count. Its Jikook together during Chuseok, but again, it doesn't mean anything. Its Jikook together on JK's bday alone (bonus for Tae asking Jimin to come sleep with him, instead of the birthday boy, WHOMP WHOMP) but that also doesn't count. Its Jikook ALONE drinking, bridal twirling and hickey sucking, but that also doesn't count. It's Jikook enlisting ALONE and together. Like get the fuck out of here, your ship will never be in Jikook's league. No one is playing your silly fucking games anymore. You ship isn't real and you can't even argue it without looking like you need a straight jacket at this point. Tae put the final nail in the coffin and Jennie buried y'all, while Jikook walking together over your graves for the next 18 months. Its over and done. Move on. You got 18 months to get your life together.

Cook

[jokeroutsubs]

[ENG SUB] 🎈🍰Bday Special🍰🎈Odkrito.si podcast with Kris Guštin and Bojan Cvjetićanin (Joker Out)

You can find the original podcast in Slovenian here.

We made a readable transcript of the podcast (which is audio only) and you can find it under the cut.

Transcript:

I've got two out of the four hottest guys in Slovenia in front of me, Kris Guštin and Bojan Cvjetićanin from Joker Out. Welcome to the Odkrito podcast.

Kris: Hi. Can I correct you right now?

Please.

Kris: Out of five.

Out of five. Well, right. I've obviously forgotten another one then, haven't I. How does a young person like you two feel when they become, sort of, instantaneously famous? And now, I don't know, girls are fainting, going to concerts… etc. How does that feel?

Bojan: It's actually quite okay because in Slovenia fame doesn't exist. So you can live an almost completely normal life. Except that girls do faint, but that's also always nice.

Kris: Well, yeah, it's an interesting feeling. I have to say that I don't really have a concretely articulated feeling about this. For now, I'm diving back into it every day. Now we'll see if it ever gets too much or not.

Back in the day, when the Beatles were around, or we had Bijelo Dugme in the former Yugoslavia, girls used to go (to concerts) in large numbers, screaming, etc. …and they were being pulled by the sleeves, chased through the streets. Is this happening to you too?

Kris: On the streets, not really, if anything, we get asked to take a picture. When you're in public, and when you're not presenting as your public persona, they usually leave you alone, but at concerts it's crazier, because you're with the whole band together, and you're this unit that everybody's screaming for. It can be exhausting at those times, but it's actually also fun.

Are there any panties, bras… being thrown on stage?

Kris: Pearl necklaces.

Bojan: Yeah.

Has that happened yet?

Bojan: It has already happened, yeah.

It has already happened. So you're saying that Slovenian women are not as reserved as one would think?

Kris: No.

Bojan: I mean, technically we don't know if it's the Slovenian women who are throwing. But, yeah, let's say they're not.

Aha. One of the famous singers in Slovenia said that fame helps her to maybe get a nicer cut of beef from the butcher. You said earlier, Bojan, that there is no fame in Slovenia. Is this maybe one part where (fame) can help you?

Kris: I haven't gotten a nicer cut of beef at the butcher's yet.

Bojan: Okay, I did have a couple of nice bonuses like that, perhaps because of that. Some little things, but they come in handy every now and then.

Kris: What's cool is that everybody invites you to movie premieres. That's a pretty nice thing.

Bojan: I found it sweet when I was late returning an item to the shop once and the saleswoman was insisting that I couldn't exchange it any more, but she kept looking down at the floor when she was saying that, and then when she looked up she said 'Oh, it's you! Okay, well, I'll let it slide.'

That is to say that there are small advantages nevertheless. As far as the fame is concerned, if that's what we're talking about, Bojan you are the most exposed as a frontman. You're also the most frequently featured. Kris, you have a famous - at least in Slovenian terms - father. So there's that, too. You two are all over the place now. Maybe it's getting a bit annoying, almost? Isn't it?

Bojan: Yeah. We're getting sick of ourselves.

You're getting sick of yourselves?

Kris: I mean, we often ask ourselves, gee, are we going to do that thing as well? Because we're really everywhere, but in the end you have to know that you're looking at it from your perspective, that you're exposed to yourself only, whereas an average person, even with how much Bojan is in the media, sees him maybe once a week, if that. Now that he's in all the commercials, maybe there will be more.

Bojan: There will be a little bit more.

Now we really see you in the commercials, you hosted EMA Fresh, you hosted EMA. That duet of yours with Maja Keuc, where you two performed Zitti e Buoni - for which many said was much better than the original! Do you consider that an honour?

Bojan: I mean, I count myself honoured, I would never say it was better than original. But I'm very pleased that there was such a good response. I just set out on a mission to infiltrate the Slovenian media space to the maximum.

And you're doing a pretty good job of it now!

Bojan: Yeah, yeah, but I have to do more still!

What else have you got planned then?

Bojan: Fifty commercials.

Fifty commercials, do you have any special… we can talk to somebody here.

Bojan: No, no, I'm kidding.

Kris: By the summer he won't be famous anymore because everyone will get sick of him.

Bojan: Exactly. You've got five minutes.

Five minutes. Okay, now your five minutes is going on right now. I hope they'll stretch out a little bit. Two years ago, you were nominated for Zlata Piščal (Golden Flute), as Joker Out, for Best Newcomer. Then performers of the year. You're nominated for four again this year.

Bojan: For three…

So for band of the year, and two… album of the year?

Kris: Artist, song - with two songs - I guess that makes four - and also for album of the year.

Also for album of the year!

Kris: Yeah yeah, quite an honour, I have to say. But I think I speak for both of us if I say that if we get the album, we'll be more than happy. Because we've been saying for a year or two now, 'Okay, now we've got artist of the year, newcomer, and now, because we've been doing this album for three years, it would be really sick to get that as well.'

It would be good to get the album as well. Then all you're missing is the Golden Flute Award for lifetime achievement. And that's when, in…?

Both: In one year!

Already?

Bojan: Our five minutes are running out, we're at 4.5 now, so next year.

So is this the end of Joker Out or what? Do you have that plan?

Bojan: Yeah, Kris and I are going solo. Duo solo!

Kris: Disco duo solo!

Oh, change of style and everything.

Bojan: Yeah.

Okay, that'll be interesting to see how that thing develops. But - because this is probably just a joke - what's your view on the future, let's say? Do you see yourselves in 10 years still in a band - in the same band - or maybe even in 20, 30…?

Kris: I don't know, I don't think that far ahead. I mean, whenever I did, I was like, 'Come on stop thinking, you can't know anything yet.' I think the less expectations we have for the future, the better it will be, but so far it's going very well and I think we're trying to make it last as long as possible. I wouldn't dare to claim what will happen, though.

What about you, Bojan?

Bojan: Well, I'll be more optimistic. I kind of always wanted, or rather, when we started this story, I always imagined that it would be something that would last. It will last until it feels good for us in reality, right. When it stops feeling good for us, when it stops being a pleasure… in reality, the only thing we don't want is to end up doing it just so we can live off it.

Kris: Yeah yeah, and that's why I'm maybe a little bit more pessimistic about it. Because I don't want to determine my own destiny like that, and then we end up doing something that we don't like to do. Which - it seems to me - happens a lot with some performers.

That they continue to force it-

Kris: They work just because they became 'somebody' and they just continue like that. I think that's why, for example, Duft Punk, who went their separate ways a year ago, I think that was… I mean, I was sorry to see them go their separate ways, but if it was the right decision I understand and I respect that.

Bojan: Exactly.

Well, then you two see yourselves as, say, Mick Jagger, at 70 on stage, but only if it's all still shagadelic?

Bojan: Yeah, but, I mean, ultimately, even if it doesn't happen, we're friends first and foremost, and I'm sure that even if at some point this story came to an end, we'd still be working in various forms, sort of together, or at least be some sort of supporting pillar for each other at some point.

Kris: For example, the Red Hot Chilli Peppers have accepted and thrown out one guitar player three times already, so.

Bojan: He's just come back.

Kris: Yeah, he's just come back.

So there's all these other scenarios, but basically, the main focus for, let's say, the two of you in the future is still music?

Both: Yeah.

Kris, seeeing as you are a chemical engineer, ah, no, an Engineer of Chemical Technology, you (Bojan) are a sociologist or I don't know if you have graduated already?

Bojan: No, this year.

Okay, so fingers crossed. I think you once said Bojan that if you were a professor, you would be a professor at the Poljane Grammar School, is that still true?

Bojan: I said that the only profession that I would be happy to do, apart from being a musician, would be a professor of sociology and I would prefer that to be at the Poljane Grammar School.

Why there?

Bojan: This is my high school, which I have really fond memories of, and I feel like I could take over the theater club, and those kinds of things, like being that cool professor.

Okay, so a cool professor, a professor that we like. What about you Kris, alternative to music?

Kris: Well, I'll put it this way: chemical engineering for me is more or less just on paper. Even if the music thing doesn't work out, I don't know if I'll ever really be doing that. Now I'm going to say I don't really have an alternative. The music comes first and I think it's going to stay that way. I don't know if anything will change, but the side activities are always there.

For example?

Bojan: Football on Sundays

Kris: No, one interesting thing that I talk with Martin, our bassist, about, is that maybe one day - because that's part of the music business as well - we could have our own record label. That's maybe something that we, or I, would be interested in, to get involved in this kind of support industry in music. Otherwise, I really have no idea what I'm going to do if the music thing doesn't go through.

In a way, you're still learning as you go along, given that you've now been 3, 4 years… What, 6? But out of that, you're a bit more at the front in the last 2, 3 years. You're still getting a bit of an introduction to the music industry. What's your opinion of the music industry in Slovenia?

Bojan: Yeah there's a lot of room for progress. What's absolutely happening is that music has again become kind of important for young people in Slovenia.Young people are very aware that Slovenian content creation in all areas is extremely, extremely important and that music is gaining in value, which was definitely not always the case. For the last 10, 15 years, I would dare to say that music has been treated very much as a hobby activity.

People simply just perceived it that way as well, so I think it's all going in the right direction now, but it would definitely be nice to do a lot more in the sense of professionalisation of music.

Is this still lacking in our country?

Bojan: Yes.

Kris: Yeah, it's quite interesting, this music business in Slovenia, because on the one hand it seems to me that all the musicians want to be taken very seriously, want to be serious professional musicians, and make a living out of it, but on the other hand, they have a full time job during the day and they can't really dedicate as much time as they could. That's why our producer, Žarko Pak, is always complaining why there aren't many good instrumentalists in Slovenia. It's because no one wants to spend as much time as it would take to become a really good instrumentalist of their era, by just practicing their instrument, because then it's like this: He goes to work and then he comes home and he has to get the kids from kindergarten, and then maybe he has half an hour in the evening, before he watches the daily news, to fiddle around with his instrument a little bit.

But there's one little vicious circle in all this, because you've got to live off of something somehow. How do you two manage to do it? I guess you two are investing most into music now? Music is way ahead of all the projects, let's say. Well, Kris, at least you've finished your education, you (Bojan) have yet to graduate. How do you manage to juggle the two together, how is that going?

Bojan: I think, in principle, we're really a very diligent band, as far as that goes, given that when I finish, we'll all have university degrees. And it was actually very much as Kris said. I mean, school was sort of a priority, but it was a very divided priority, in this case with music. Because really, besides that minimal effort that we had to put in to get the school part done, all the other effort, and indeed all the resources that we were raising as we went, in one way or another - like with student work and such - all of that was invested into the band. And we have a different starting point anyway, we can't speak for someone who is, let's say, in their 30s, because we are students after all, or rather, when we started, we were high school students. We live at home or we used to live at home, so that financial part was a little bit different for us as we were very lucky. But anyway, we ourselves, until practically very recently, even though we've been kind of in the media and presenting as successful - there were still more times where we had to go to ATM to withdraw the money we've earned to cover something, than to withdraw the money we've earned to spend it. So, yes.

But the future for you then is probably in music, to live off that then, isn't it? If not exactly from Joker Out, then from whatever else - from anything in the music industry. Is that possible in Slovenia at all?

Bojan: Yes, it is. But it's very, very difficult to get there.

Kris: It's just that, I mean, if you want to make a living exclusively from authorship, there are only 10, 20 people who do that. You have to be a really top-notch author, writer, arranger, whatever. The other big source of income are also concerts. The more gigs you do the better. Basically, nowadays when performers are looking at how they're going to survive financially over the year, the first thing they have to look at is 'let's do as many gigs as possible'. I think for us that will probably be the best thing as well.

Bojan: I have to correct myself in retrospect, actually. This exactly is the problem: It's possible, but there's quite a lot of other side activities that have to be included that don't directly involve music. I mean, they come with the music, but they are not part of the music. That is to say, you can make a living out of concerts and authorship and things like that, but it's more of a 'barely getting by' than anything else. So, on our own, there is a lot to be done here to raise the bar.

But can you imagine what it's like to live like that then. You have to keep going to the studios, you have to keep working on it. Where is the free time then?

Bojan: Well, where's the free time if you're in an office for 8 hours and you have to be with bitter people and bitter clients or whoever it is you're working with. At least here you're in the studio, you're creating something, you're with the people you love.

Kris: I might disagree with you on that. I'm just going to say, there's a certain rumour that musicians have a job like this where we can choose our own schedule. This is good, however, there's a catch: if you can choose your own schedule you also have to be available all the time, basically. So you have a very blurred line between work, leisure, workplace, home, studio, etc. It all becomes the same thing. I have a second hand experience in that, because I just see my father, how he lives solely from the music. He may be at home all day in the morning, but then he may have to be in the studio until 3 in the morning, because they are recording something, and because our producer, who is the same as our own, is a night owl or whatever you want to call him.

Bojan: Yeah, but then it just depends on whether you're comfortable with that or not.

Kris: Yeah, yeah.

Bojan: But what Kris said is just absolutely true. You don't really have a private life. It almost doesn't exist because of the fact that there is constantly something.

Kris: But you don't realize it until it's too late.

And as young people, are you two ready for something like that?

Bojan: For now, yes.

Kris: For now everything still works fine.

Does it all look a bit romantic, or not?

Bojan: It's honestly lost a lot of the romanticism for me, but it's still much more romantic than having to wake up in the morning and be on a fixed schedule. We are different, I know that Kris would for sure prefer to have everything neatly planned.

Kris: I really like to be on time, I don't like to be late, but I also don't like to get up early, so I'm somewhere in the...

From 11 onwards.

Kris: From 11 to… a 4 hour workday!

Bojan: Like this, yes!

That would be ideal wouldn't it? Probably for a lot of people. A musician's job is a creative job. What is the most beautiful part of it for you two?

Kris: The most beautiful? Yeah, it depends. I'll put it this way. For me, if we can divide the process of the song creation phase, the first thing is that somebody writes a song, it's usually Bojan or sometimes me as well. It's written at home on the acoustic (guitar), with some melody. Then, the second phase is that you bring it to the rehearsal space, you show it to the other band members and we do it together. Then it's the studio. For me, the arrangment part, when you coordinate with everybody on what you want, how you want the whole song to sound, that can be a very fun part, if you manage to do it quickly, if you're quick to understand what you want from one another. But if not, it can be the most torturous part. Although the studio part can be quite torturous as well, so let's just say that my favourite part on average is when I'm writing a song at home.

Bojan: I would say that the arranging part is my favourite. I mean, it's very nice when you write a song, but it's also always cool when you do it together with the band, because it always goes into some twist that you didn't expect. Almost always.

Kris: That's true.

Bojan: But what Kris said is the double-edged sword of arranging. When it's going well, there is just such… Some kind of dopamine is released and we're all so happy, we all love each other. But if it's not going well, it goes into some such bizarre depression, in fact, that when we say, 'Okay, break,' you feel like we're at odds with each other.

Kris: Yeah, yeah.

Bojan: Literally like that. We're not at odds with each other, of course we're not, but...

You're a bit sullen, aren't you? It's not a good feeling, is it?

Bojan: No, it's really miserable actually. So that really crushes you and sucks out your energy for the whole day. But it's then so much nicer, when it works out. So I'd still choose that part.

Okay. When are the lyrics made? In the morning, before noon, in the evening?

Bojan: For me, in the evening.

Kris: For me, also more in the evening.

The night has its own power.

Bojan & Kris: Yes.

Kris: Why, because it seems to me that in the morning you're still fresh, and you're still in the mood to deal with life, and then towards the evening, when you've had, I don't know, a hard day, then you start going, 'Gee, I wanna write something now, because I'm getting sick of it all'.

Bojan: My brain doesn't work at all in the morning. I'm pretty useless until the afternoon.

Most creators are, I'll say, night owls. There are very few who create during the day, or start early in the morning, sit down at, I don't know, somewhere, and start.

Bojan: Because the night is really… Things happen at night that, I'll say, sweeten the life. I mean, you go out at night, you go dancing at night. In the evening you probably had your first kiss or something...

Kris: The concerts are also in the evenings. Even if you didn't want to be a night owl, you can't do that as a musician. Unless you're going to be performing in community centres at 8 p.m.. But that's… We also have schedules where we go on stage at 1 in the morning and then that affects you for at least the next 2-3 days.

Is that exhausting?

Kris: Again, it depends when.

Bojan: It's nice.

It's nice? Okay, you're still enjoying it. I was talking to a Croatian singer recently, Goran Karan, and he said that he doesn't perform in clubs anymore because he goes to bed at 10 o'clock at night and everybody else is partying.

Bojan: But Goran Karan has done his part. I mean, the evening part of it, don't get me wrong. He's really really done a lot.

Well, you're still on that path, aren't you?

Bojan: Yeah. He can afford not to play clubs anymore. Now, that was terrible, I didn't mean it like that! (laughter)

Kris: It's interesting, because for example now. when we play with older, more established acts, they always tend to put us more towards the end, and I imagine that's also because we're young, and we don't really have any demands on when we want to go on stage, whereas these older bands, I know they've got some requirements that they don't want to go on stage after 10, and you can't really blame them.

Going back to the songwriting: your songs are kind of unique in our musical space, they're a little bit different, I'll say, mostly very lyrical. Do they come from personal experiences?

Kris: Yes, exclusively.

Bojan: From personal and from the experiences of people who are - I'm speaking for myself - who are close to me, and then I try to internalize these certain feelings or events from their lives.

Kris: It's the same for me. Though I haven't really - like Bojan said - written a song about somebody else that I sympathize with. I've more often than not just written songs because I wanted to clarify something inside myself.

But then is the song that is made, let's say the first version, the same as the one we hear afterwards?

Bojan & Kris: No.

Bojan: In the vast majority, no. It happens, but it's not-

Kris: Which one was done in one sitting?

Bojan: Gola practically hasn't changed since the moment it was written. For the whole version, ours.

Kris: But there were also like 3 choruses in between.

Bojan: Yeah, but not for Joker Out. That was before, right.

Kris: Oh, that was before.

Bojan: 'Omamljeno telo' was written whole.

Kris: Okay, okay. It's just that 'Omamljeno telo' was also, let's say, if I remember correctly, written in English at first, right?

Bojan: But all of them are now.

Kris: Well, yeah, okay. But here again the line is a bit blurred, because it happens a lot of times that a text is written in English and then-

Right in the beginning?

Kris: Yes, in the beginning.

Bojan: The second album is practically -I wrote all of it in English at the beginning. Because I am able to say gibberish, just enough to make it sound good and to make it singable. And then I add-

And then what do you do, a translation into Slovene or what?

Bojan: No.

Kris: You have to - you have to separate yourself from the original meaning - because it's just some nonsense anyway.

But then isn't something lost in the song itself, in the lyrics? The message, or something like that?

Bojan: Well, not really, because the basics of the song will remain- It's going to touch on the same themes. But the words will be completely different. Because in English - firstly I don't have a complete mastery of English, neither do I feel it enough to be able to- Let's say, to feel impacted /myself/ by what I have written. Actually, these are just some phrases that connect the melody as much as possible, whereas in Slovene, I go deeper into what I feel, what I want to pour out of myself and onto the paper.

So the melody comes first and then the lyrics, or how?

Bojan: For the first album, when I was writing, I was really writing simultaneously. It was always lyrics along with the melody. Then things could change in the studio, or something, but in principle I did those at once. When I brought it to the guys, I already had a rough outline of what it was going to be, whereas now we're doing a lot of songs that are already aranged, for the second album, but they don't have Slovenian lyrics yet, at all.

Kris: And that's not a bad thing either. Even if you do the lyrics at the start which you're not required to stick to throughout, and then you update the song first with how it's going to sound with the arrangement, and then you influence it once again. When you see how it sounds when the band plays it, you can adjust the lyrics.

Bojan: Exactly.

Kris: You adapt the lyrics to that and you get some new inspiration.

Bojan: Yeah, and in fact also with the lyrics: as he said: Rhythmically, you can play with it. You see that some of the things that we play with the band, in English, rhythmically don't fit together that well, and that you can shorten something somewhere. It's nice, basically. Well, I'll say that when I finish writing it.

You're still sticking to Slovenian lyrics for now, that's what you said earlier, Bojan, that the Slovenian-

Bojan: Yes, yes, the lyrics will be in Slovenian, or actually, there are Serbo-Croatian adaptations that are already happening.

Oh, into Serbo-Croatian. What about English versions for a wider…?

Kris: Not yet.

Bojan: Not at the moment.

You're not thinking about it?

Bojan: No. Unless we're just going to record these ones that are already-

But maybe they would be hits.

Bojan: Maybe.

Kris: For all the songs we've done so far, we could put out some early English version.

But are there any 'dirty thoughts' of maybe, at some point, going outside of Slovenia? Well now you've kind of covered the Serbo-Croatian speaking area a little bit, But further, Europe, the world, America, Wembley, Madison Garden… I don't know, something like that.

Bojan: Honestly, for me, because I am aware of how many artists there are in the world who are present in these markets that we're talking about and who have the ability to have gigs at clubs and be everywhere, like we are doing it here, it seems more often than not impossible to me. Secondly, it seems to me that it's precisely this lyricism of ours, and the fact that we feel what we are saying - I think that we would lose that, wouldn't we? If we went to create just in English now, at least I personally couldn't do that. Whereas in Serbian, I found that it actually flows very well, because it's also my mother tongue, so I can really put the same emotion on the paper. Actually, if we managed to go to the Balkans, I would be extremely happy.

You're working on that, aren't you?

Bojan: Yes.

Okay. Have you ever done any performances in, I don't know, Serbia, Croatia, Bosnia?

Kris: We've done a concert in Croatia, but it was for a Slovenian audience.

Oh, for a Slovenian audience?

Kris: That doesn't count for now.

Bojan: Yes. But this year it's in the plan. We have a couple of shows booked in Serbia, so.

Kris: Yeah, and also it could be that at least one song on the new album will be in Serbian from the begining

Bojan: And that is?

Kris: 'Ona'?

Bojan: Oh. Yes, indeed!

And if it kicks off for you there, what happens then? Some Slovenian authors then suddenly start to write only in Serbo-Croatian or Croatian or Serbian. Can that happen to you?

Bojan: Well, you know what I'll tell you. I think it would be very nice to introduce a little bit of Slovene to the Balkans, because, again, it's not that different. Whatever they say, that it is, it's not like they don't understand us at all there. Because if we understand them, I suppose they could understand us, too. So it seems to me that now maybe the world is a little more open to foreign languages - because no one understands Spanish either, but they all sing, and so on - so maybe they could try to sing a little bit in Slovene, too.

Kris: That would be quite interesting.

Bojan: That would be very interesting.

Well, when we were still in the former Yugoslavia, it kind of worked. Now that there's separate countries, it's a bit more difficult, isn't it?

Bojan: As far as I know, Predin's lyrics were-

Predin's* lyrics were sung, Videosex's* lyrics were sung, and so on. There were a bunch of them that were also sung in Slovene, but nowadays there's this time distance, secondly the linguistic distance has become greater, in a way. Will you be ambassadors of the Slovene language in the former Yugoslavia then?

*Zoran Predin, Slovenian singer-songwriter from Maribor. In the 1980s, he was the front man of the new wave rock band Lačni Franz.

*Videosex was a Yugoslav synth-pop band formed in Ljubljana in 1982.

Bojan: Maybe we will break this barrier, right?

Kris: I mean, I've always had the feeling, apart from the language barriers - maybe I'm wrong - but that, I don't know, Croats, Serbs… don't like Slovenians for some historical reasons. We were the first ones to leave Yugoslavia, and whatnot, so now they won't listen to anything in Slovene because-

But I guess that's getting a little bit lost in this younger generation, isn't it?

Kris: Yeah, it is a little bit. It's faded a little bit.

That negative connotation, maybe.

Kris: I hope so.

The songs that you have are often love songs. Or, I can say, almost all.

Bojan: Quite a lot, yes. Although 'Barve Oceana' isn't.

'Barve Oceana' isn't, but others are, especially 'Umazane Misli', to me is one of the most beautiful love songs at the moment, I have to admit that. What do your girlfriends, if you have them, say to that?

Kris: What, on the fact that they're love songs?

(What do they say) about these songs?

Bojan: I don't have a girlfriend, so Kris, if you have a girlfriend?

Kris: Yeah, I mean, I, when I had a girlfriend, when I wrote a song for her, she was infinitely happy, and when we also put one of those songs on the album, it means a lot to her.

Bojan: 'Omamljeno telo'. (laughs).

Kris: No… I don't know what else to say about it, I doubt anyone would be disappointed…

But do you ever say a line or something to your girlfriend? In a poem you pour yourself out, whereas in a speech, when you're talking… Are you being poetic?

Kris: Maybe it's really easier if you have something difficult to say, maybe it's really easier if you're like 'I wrote this song'. It flows better than it would in a normal conversation, so I… When I wrote something new, I've always shown it to my girlfriend, like 'Come on, listen to this, listen to that, is it good or not?' and then she always gave her opinion.

Kris: And then I told her what I really wanted to say through it.

You, Bojan, don't have a girlfriend, but you write love songs. Is that then a longing or what?

Bojan: Yeah, longing I would say is a good word. Actually, I think love is a kind of strange thing that we can feel quite often, not necessarily in its full form, but, I don't know, you can be walking down the street and see something that you fall in love with for a moment. And you can feel things that you can then put into a song later on. That's why there are also songs that are emotionally charged. They're charged with many different forms of emotion, for the very reason that they don't come from one experience in particular, but they encompass, in a way, all the love experiences that you're constantly picking up on. So yeah, I don't know. I would say that maybe, when I'm walking around, I'm always longing to fall in love with something or someone.

Okay. Then that's a future thing for the time being. We're hoping it happens.

Bojan: Me too.

So, are the songs going to change then?

Bojan: I mean, they'll definitely change. Every major thing in life changes the way you express yourself and the way you live and the way you exist in general, so yeah, for sure.

How would you describe yourselves, are you primarily musicians or lyricists?

Bojan: I'm not musically trained, and I'm also quite hasty, so I'd say I'm a lyricists rather than a musician.

Kris: I'd say I'm a musician before I'd say I'm a lyricists.

So you're kind of a combination then, at least the two of you together, aren't you? That goes together then. But what about the other members, do they also contribute something to the lyrics? The two of you are kind of the main ones in that.

Kris: So far it's just us writing the lyrics. The others, I don't know if they even have the desire to do that kind of thing. But they are very, very good musicians, the others. Let's say that our other guitarist, Jan, if I'm somewhere in between a musician and a lyricists, Jan is… Much more of a musician than me, I would say. Martin and Jure, the drummer and the bassist, are also musicians in that full sense. The two of us are somewhere in between.

Bojan: Right. Lost in Translation.

But together, the sum is greater than its individual members. Which is great. You, as a band, if we go back in history a little bit, you came into existence with… You've had a bit of a turbulent history. Is that a good thing?

Bojan: Kind of.

Kris: We were putting ourselves together a little bit.

You've been building the band for a while? Well, turbulent… there weren't any arguments, were there?

Bojan: The bass player and I were in… We made the first band back in 2012. And then Matic, the drummer, joined us and he was with us until last year. And then I went to a gig at Prulček bar in the evening, where Jan and Kris were in the band, and I wished I could have guitarists like that in the band. And I called Martin. Martin already knew Kris, because Kris went to the same school as him.

Bojan: And then we sort of very quickly got them to join our band. And that's when Joker Out was formed. That was in 2016.

And then you got the name from the internet. I read that somewhere, that you agreed on it very quickly.

Kris: We just wrote all kinds of stuff.

Bojan: It was during the May 1st school break. I remember I was in Banja Luka. Nobody except Kris knew Jan at all when we started the band, so the band was basically just a Messenger chat on Facebook.

You were virtually-

Bojan: Then we were getting to know each other in there, and we were writing down what name we wanted to have, and something like 1,000 options came up. And then there was something about Joker, and then Kris said Out. I don't know why 'Joker Out'. So, yeah.

Was that a little bit alcohol-induced?

Bojan: No, we were 17!

Oh, yeah, 17, you weren't allowed yet. Of course.

Bojan: But we don't drink now either (laughs).

So the name itself as such, Joker Out, doesn't have any deeper meaning?

Bojan: No, it simply sounds good.

Kris: For a while in the beginning we were still fooling ourselves, so to speak, wanting to find some meaning retroactively. Like, I don't know, you pull a card out from somewhere, nonsense like that. But now we're just like 'well it just sound good, it doesn't have to mean anything.' Because even when you look at what 'Big Foot Mama' means? Nothing, and in fact if you heard it out of context you'd think it was the most stupid name in the world, but because they've given context to the name with their music, it sounds good to you, and you just don't ask what it is at all.

Bojan: I was reassured when I heard that Alex Turner, the lead singer of Arctic Monkeys, finds the name Arctic Monkeys terrible, while we all love it.

Kris: I mean, I had a lot of people saying, 'Joker Out, wow, that's a sick name'. But I didn't think it was either.

Well, because some people are always explaining the history of their name… If it has some prior context, right?

Kris: I mean, it can have…

Well, after all, it's just a story, the one that's the context.

Bojan&Kris: Exactly. Yes."

Shagadelic rock n roll- Before I read what that 'shagadelic' was supposed to mean- I knew it from Austin Powers. But I kind of interpreted it as 'getting layed' rock 'n' roll, right?

Kris: Getting laid…

Bojan: Getting laid rock 'n' roll.

But it has a slightly different connotation, doesn't it…?

Kris: I think- You actually got it right!

Bojan: That, the getting laid part, is just one part of it all. But yeah, we're, we're big Austin Powers fans, and we felt that his mojo was the coolest thing in the world, and that, if for no other reason, at least we wanted to feel like we had that mojo. And then, in 2017, when we won Špil Liga*, we jokingly said that we were 'shagadelic rock'n'roll'.

*A student band competition organized by Kino Šiška.

Kris: We said this back then?

Bojan: Yeah yeah, in the first interviews that we had we said 'Yeah, shagadelic rock 'n' roll'. And then it really caught on, so that's great.

Kris: We didn't really think it would catch on at all.

Okay, but now it exists- Maybe it'll become a new genre of music! Kris: I don't know.

In the history of rock and roll - shagadelic rock and roll.

Kris: Yeah, that would be cool.

Bojan: And that it's only us.

Wikipedia, and it's just Joker Out.

Kris. Yeah we'll see if in 10, 15 years time when somebody's like 'Yeah, we're also shagadelic rock and roll' That would be sick.

What would be the characteristics of shagadelic rock'n'roll then?

Kris: I don't even know if it's that much in the music… It's in the music, it's a certain energy that I wouldn't be able to describe with words right now, but also with everything that comes with it. I think, for example, clothing is a big part of what you would call 'shagadelic rock'n'roll', the energy on stage would be a big part of shagadelic rock'n'roll for me.

Bojan: It seems to me that a very big part of this shagadelic rock'n'roll is being unbothered. They kind of throw this criticism our way constantly, that 'this isn't rock, this isn't I don't know what' so really, if somebody's watching this and they think that, we really don't care. Like, we don't give a flying f*ck. So, that's one part of shagadelic rock 'n' roll, that we just do what we like, if it's rock 'n' roll it is, if it's pop it's pop, if it's disco it's disco. That's what shagadelic is.

I wrote that down somewhere. 'Shagadelic' actually exists, it's in the English language dictionary, in Webster's.

Kris: Really?

There's 'shagadelic', which means…

Bojan: (in English) 'A member of the band Joker Out'.

Not exactly. It means 'sexy, especially in a psychedelic or retro way'.

Bojan: Okay. I mean, that's the retro part that he said, these clothes and so on. We rock that style, so yes.

So. We're almost out of time, so Kris and Bojan thank you so much for being guests on the podcast. See you at the concert sometime?

Bojan: See you whenever you want at the concerts.

Okay, the next one is now operation Križanke*?

*The Križanke Outdoor Theatre is a theatre in Ljubljana, mostly used for summer festivals. Joker Out held a concert there on 9th of September 2022, where they introduced songs from their second album, Demoni.

Bojan: Oh no, the next one is already in-

Kris: In Brežice.

Bojan: This Saturday in Brežice.

This Saturday, that is-

Bojan&Kris: But it's already sold out.

Is it already sold out? So we missed that one then. But we still have a chance in Križanke.

Bojan: Right. 9th of September (2022). I think you now have a few more days or so to get your tickets. So yeah, see you, have a good one, have a good time. What else?

Kris: Thanks for the invitation.

Bojan: Yes. Thank you for the invitation.

And the album will be good, won't it?

Bojan: Oh, no, the album will be extraordinary.

Excellent. Thank you very much.

Kris: Thank you.

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Translation by @kurooscoffee , proof read by TWT @klámstrákur and TWT @janpetehoe

[luvdsc]

I MISS YOU PLS COME BACK TO US

((hope you’re living your best life lately ilyyy))

i miss you and ilysm, honey bee !!!!! 🥹💗💗 i hope 2024 has been treating you kindly, and you’re doing well 🌷🌷 how have you been? what have you been up to, sweetpea? ☁️

i have been living my best life, thank you !!! 🤧 in 2023, i traveled with my friends, went to LA every month basically, visited japan for almost three weeks, visited australia for two weeks and steph and ti showed me around 💕, attended two music festivals (seeing dpr irl and rich brian coming down from the stage and stopping in front of us ???? immaculate) and a keshi concert (i was SO close to the stage and the videos are beautiful except my storage was full so I couldn’t get it all rip), hung out with els, omg and moon is basically my neighbor now and we hang out super often and I just went to her graduation (congrats on being one masters degree hotter 🥵), and lana came to visit us over the summer too !! 💘 also it’s been over two years of being blonde now lmaoo

and i’m so excited for 2024 !!!! 💛 one of my bsfs is getting married, i’m going to korea with my friends for two weeks, and i have one music festival already lined up 🥳 ooo also there’s gonna be a fun work trip with my work bsf soon and another nyc trip and mexico trip in the works !! ✨

also, i am slowly starting to write 🥹 i opened up one of my wips recently, ty to lana and moon for the moral support as we’re all gently peer pressuring each other into writing again 🤧 fingers crossed that i’ll have something to announce on my bday 🍒

i wanted to see what everyone has been interested in reading lately and the fic tags are all filled with text scenarios now ?? idk if any of you will still enjoy my fics but i’m having lots of fun writing again !!! 🐝✨

[deepdeepjoyandpain]

It’s summer camp week!

Living my best life: outdoor concert and sushi last night, dinner out with dear friends tonight, kayak day tomorrow, bday party Friday. So so needed.

We did a 2 week trip out West that wrapped up the fifth, two days at home to recover and then she was off. It’s her last year as a camper at this camp - but I learned they do have a 3 week internship program she could possibly do next year. Dreaming and hoping that could work!

Parenting remains hard. But we are making it.

[ardate]

For the end of the year ask game: 1, 2,3 4, 8, 9, 12, 13, 15, 18, 19, 20, 24, 25 :3c

3, 4 and 18 answered here! :]

1- Song of the year?

According to Spotify my most repeated song this year is Carpathian Forest's 'Journey Through the Cold Moors of Svarttjern'. I'm a tad surprised since I phased on em again relatively late this year but it's fair tbh I Did live on this one for a bit

2- Album of the year?

Urgehal's 'Goatcraft Torment' that I just been coming back to again n again this year. Been a while since I got into such a strong urgehal mood but it was nice,, wish I could see them again if only they hadn't split for good wahh

8- Game of the year?

I frankly have barely touched a game at all this year, in part due to Circumstances(tm) and in part due to just not being in the mood for it bhGBH I suppose by default I'll point at Monkey Island cuz it's the one and only game I've really properly started (re)playing this year, and I'd have def continued if I wasn't brainrotting about other things

9- Best month for you this year?

Kind of a bummer maybe but, September, when I finally was able to go home after more than 3 months of homelessness due to the fire 🫠 It was an immense relief to just,, be able to have my space again fhbfb

12- Talk about a new friend you made this year

The Goons, name for group of international friends I made (alongside @ Birb) at the beginning of this year,, Met em at the local bar during a concert w my two other english speaking friends and I was like "you guys aint french?? You're hanging out with us Now" and at the end of the night I was like "You guys are coming back next week so we can hang again (an order)" and well guess it didn't scare em off cuz they did stick around and we hang out regularly now. I love em to bits

13- How was your birthday this year?

Completely uneventful and unremarkable LMAO as it usually is tbf. I have somewhat of an odd relationship w my bday due to many reasons, but in this case I also had been at the bar literally the night before (with aforementioned Goons), had drank plenty, and realized it was my birthday by complete accident the next day. We all were too tired to hang out again after such a long evening the day before so I just went home to vegetate

15- What’s a bad habit you picked up this year?

Hmm good question, I don't think I picked up anything new, more like bad habits got exacerbated depending on situations. I think my RSD got worse this year, probably not helped w all the shit I've dealt with but still,, I wanna try and get it under better control again

19- What’re you excited about for next year?

Actually a bunch of things. Gonna celebrate our 30th birthday together w old friends which should be nice, and I might go to the US for a short while to visit a friend so should be nicies also,

20- What’s something you learned this year?

Too much about housing insurance 🫠

24- Did you keep any New Year’s Resolutions?

Ngl i just don't do this shit hBGJB ofc all respect and fun to those who do, but making a to-do list of a lot of improvements just aint my thing. I'll change from day to day when I can and I feel like it

25- Did you create any characters (in games, art, or writing) this year? Describe one

Sniffs. Sniffles. Snif. 👉👈 Yeag. My Simpsons girlie Ann-Doreen my beloved failgirl with whom I have so so much fun,,, I don't dare share her around too much cuz wow the sentiment to bother everyone w it is strong but we ball and I love toyin with her still :')

[stylesloveclub]

oh stop im gonna cry. i miss bestieing w u all the time!! r ur classes over now? and how have u been??

ive been so busy recently. i took 2 6 week summer courses and it almost killed me. one of them was 5 credits 😵‍💫 i had both finals on the same day (friday) then on saturday i went to pride and yesterday i went to a laufey concert and today was my dads bday. ive literally been so busy. thank god my boss let me take the week off

yes im done w school!!!! i'm good i had like a really reallly REALLY hard school year bc i picked up a lot of extracurriculars and i was just soooooo stressed w my classes. like those upper divs were HARDDDD but i survived!!! if we are being vulnerable this year was so hard . i was really sad . likeeee i felt like the shell of my old self if that makes sense maybe that is too deep for a tumblr ask but i just kept looking back at me last year vs this year and thinking what changed . why am i not having fun anymore . BUT WHATEVER . i'm glad it's summer.

summer classes are KILLER!!! they stuff so much content into such a short amount of time and two finals on one day like WOW thats crazy. BUT U HAD A FUN WEEKEND!!!! i hope laufey was fun and also happy birthday dad! i have ZERO concerts lined up for this summer i miss summer 2023 when i was looking forward to eras..... OHHH HOW I HATE THE PASSAE OF TIME

[dlstmxkakwldrlarchive]

241214 ONEW B-Day Party Review

(credit) Apart from ONEW Noraebang Corner, another party pre-corner was a Jinki mock-up quiz. (Through a qr code, jjinggu could access the quiz and submit their answer sheet – they had to answer 20 questions!)

Q1. Favorite food during wintertime

Correct answer: bungeoppang

Q2. Food Jinki wants to eat after the fanmeeting

Correct answer: samgyeosal

Q3. Current Jinki's phone screen

Correct answer: phone basic wallpaper

Q4. Where does Jinki place his Jjingnyang doll

Correct answer: studio

Q5. Jinki thinks he lacks

Correct answer: charisma

(source)

Q6. How long is Jinki's 4th finger?

Correct answer: 7.5 cm (source)

Q7. What kind of food do you think ONEW is similar to?

Correct answer: dakugomtang (source)

Q8. What's the hardest thing to choose?

correct answer: a title song (source)

Q9. What did you care most about when you traveled?

Correct answer: choosing a restaurant (source)

Q10. Favorite ice cream flavor

Correct answer: chocolate (source)

Q11. What's Onew's favorite birthday meal?

Correct answer: Seaweed soup (source)

Q12. First memory

Correct answer: a fight with a friend when he was five (source)

Q13. What do you think after you've done your makeup when you see yourself at the mirror?

Correct answer: I have to take care of it (source)

the ? in the concert hall map was revealed to be a mini stage in the middle of jjingu!

(source)

Noraebang Corner songs: All About You Taeyeon, The three of us Toy, Blue ONEW, Gasoline Key, Starry Night x2 and G.o.d. 촛불하나

The Noraebang app gave only 72 to JJINGGUx ONEW Starry Night duet, so they sang it twice (source)

ONEW didn't want to sing a SHINee song because they have too many parts & theyre impossible to sing alone but someone asked for 'Quasimodo' so he chose to sing only his parts but the noraebang app didn't have it. So he didnt sing it. (source)

Another song rec was KEY 'Gasoline'! Jinki said that he doesn't really know 'Gasoline', so he couldn't sing it, but JJINGGU pushed really for it to be sung, and he tried to! JJINGGU offered to lead ! Jinki promised to sing it one day after he rearranged it (source)

about three of us by toy & sung si kyung: jinki shared story about him actually sitting with yoo hee yeol directly when they produced the song and even recorded the guide version of it but then he got the chord surgery and so the final song is sung by sung si kyung instead (source)

Yay live performance will be released Monday (16th) source

Ceo jang said that it was a pity that flow didnt get any music show promo so him & ONEW role played as idol and pd and pretended that ONEW was performing at dawn during a music show pre-recording broadcast on ONS channel (source i ii)

Connection (the new mini album) will be released on 6th January, and Ceo Jang announced that teasers will start next week! (source)

ONEW performed Yay four times (before the encore, once for the yt vid, once without an ending fairy and once with an ending fairy - ceo jang scolded him before bcs he forgot abt it the first time 'onew-ssi i know it's a long time since you went to music shows but aren't you forgetting something?') source

the bday party lasted 3 hours and 6 min.

Other songs Jinki sang today: Last Christmas, Lovephobia (only a bit), Dice, Your Scent

Two Vcr: Tone deaf Replay Noraebang vcr & Jjingnyang VCR

Exit gift: photocard, polaroid (random) and 5cm jjingnyang doll

credit

[lunicho]

i spent an arm and a leg.. but my family helped me out cuz my birthday is in june.. i feel very grateful but it did make me feel nauseous to spend that money but there’s sooo much that comes with the vip, at least imo normal stuff i think?? like check in, first entry, the keepsake lanyard and stuff and then access to merch BUT u also get soundcheck, send off, and a limited edition gift (whatever that means) buttt my bias is wooyoung and i really really want to meet them i think it’d be so nice to just say hi to them and if i can, take a selfie with woo and then get something like a photocard signed😭 i also think i’ll still be closer on the floor than i would be in a seat even if i’m a bit further back and it’ll be fun to experience the concert with so many other atinys rather than by myself in my seat :(

i think 82major might come to a city even closer to me because a lot of groups with smaller companies have been touring there recently so i’m really excited about that too!! thank u sm yeah i’m excited, i cried a little but i just felt silly too cuz i bought another ticket first (i will def be able to sell it) but like the vip stuff wasn’t loading and i was trying to convince myself i didn’t need it😭😭😭

sigh.. what’s new with you? i know you have a lot of events coming up in the next few weeks, how’re you feeling about those? have you decided on riize?

- 🍑 anon

aww that's super sweet!! be sure to stop by on your bday so i can wish u a super super super happy b'day!! im glad you're able to go and i hope they organize your send off well so that you're able to have a fair experience! wishing u so so much luck 🫶

ooh that's so fun they better go there! im literally so excited to see them it's not even funny 😭 can't wait to hear about all of your interactions with seongbin once their con comes 🙏🏾 i had that happen to me 😭 i ended up buying two different tickets before buying new ones for enha last year but i was luckily able to sell it on concert day! im glad u got vip regardless, im so so happy for u 🫶 have you started planning your outfit yet!!

currently planning my trip to la for riize 😞 i wanna spend the smallest amount as i possibly can so yeah... i am gonna end up going to riize 💔 im a little stressed about it all cuz txt on the 18th... riize on the 20th.. it's a lot but i wanna go so im gonna make it work! im trying really hard to do as many fun things as i can this year cuz i never do anything fun or anything worth talking about so im trying to live this year to the fullest!!

[thefirstimagifabricator]

life update i suppose?????

since i’ve not been here much recently and won’t be for a bit

lol hi yeah I’ve been dead here that’s bc of the thing called School and also I’m in my school musical and I’m v busy with that and keep coming home and then just like. crashing and falling asleep so i really don’t end up going on socmed shite much yk

and yeah the show is the weekend march starts which is soon so quite busy and then a week after that i have a concert and a week after that I have my science olympiad state-level competition so there’s more busy. this time of year is always busy fjshjfs

might draw and share some shite though

i had a snow day today >:)

I’ll definitely do smth for kdj’s bday (that’s…technically tmrw now oh shit) but it might not be big esp bc i have my last two college supplementals due that night and I’ve not yet finished either of them. and also i have a late English assignment. so yeah

oh and i don’t think i said it here but i play genshin now. as of like. late december. I didn’t play for weeks though but I’ve been playing again bc of events and shite. i drew Gaming two nights ago and I’m v v happy abt it >:)

anyway that’s it i think lol

hope y’all are well and all of you who haven’t read orv yet you should go read it 👍

school musical is footloose btw and it’s going v well

[wishuponastarion]

bday?!?! today?!?! happy birthday!! :DDD 🎉

omg so sorry I missed this, two choir concerts + bday + thanksgiving (amer., derogatory) all in one week Melted My Brain

Thank you, friend!! 😄💜🎂

[pissmoon]

ANGEY PERSONAL LONGPOST

I am so fucking pissed at this guy. He thinks we are bffs because we went to one music fest together and we were smoking when i had nothing better to do. He bothered me and whined and begged that i cover 2 of his shifts so he can go to Berlin with family. I almost always agree to shifts exchanges with coworkers when i can but in this case there was a huuuge joint bday party 2 coworkers were throwing and i told him i want to go and he was offended (i was invited and he was not🙃)...? And it pissed me off how like... He planned an abroad trip with family but he didnt bother to take paid vacations leave he just assumed i'll always exchange shifts with him whenever he asks because i cant possibly have plans and life of my own and he felt entitled to it?? I ended up agreeing tho bc there was 1 shift he could take so i have 5 days off in a row. If its sooooo important to him that he's been bothering me for 1 fucking week. So, 1 hour after we and our manager signed our exchange shifts paper he told me he is too depressed to go to work and cover one of those two shifts of mine and he'll be taking sick leave 'but dont worry you will not get in trouble because i'll 100% be on the second one'. Yea we had a shift together and he didnt tell me that before i signed the shit even tho he already knew! I was so pissed but I believed him and i was kinda too excited about having 5 days off in a row. Next fucking day he tells me he's not going to Berlin with family on that date and if i wanna go with him for 1 or 2 days on my 5 days off. At first i thot well if u dragged me in the middle of this mess you can take me to Berlin in exchange for the hussle. But after 1 day i realized wait ill be on the first day of my period no way i am going to sit in a car/train for hours and then walk around Berlin when its all windy and cold and told him that. He came to my apt uninvited as he always does and kept being like pls pls pls pls go with me. I was like dude idk if i feel right yea maybe but ill probably wont even be able to get out of bed. He took that as a yes i guess and went to a pub with the main gossiper coworker and a MANAGER as he was on sick leave and BRAGGED about how he is going to Berlin with me. On sick leave when he was supposed to cover my shift. Like he made it look like i intentionally exchanged knowing he wont come to work so we can go together? Of course i didnt even feel like going anywhere on my period but he had to tell everyone. And bam big fucking surprise. He promised i wont get in trouble because he 100% will cover that second shift right. He fucking forgot about it and went to Ukraine of all places and called in with some 'my kid is sick' bullshit to work. And he bragged to me about all the trips he had to be on because he was too sad to go to work as i was getting in trouble at work because of him!! He knows damn well our workplace puts bans on exchanging shifts on ppl who fool around like this. I dont give a shit if he gets not so legit sick leaves but he dragged me in the middle of this mess like what for? He fucking gets 4 sick leaves a week to get out of work he can travel whenever he wants. To be petty and selfish now - I didnt go to that coworkers party, i was banned from exchanging shifts along with him. I talked to the boss and they unbanned me after 1 week, but before that happened uhh. I missed the concert by patriarchy and spit mask because i could not exchange a shift with anyone. God i hate this dude so much now how can one be this immature and selfish like what are you 11. I told him it him it was selfish and entitled behavior and i feel like he used me and didnt care ill get in trouble and he didnt reply since. He didnt even say fucking sorry

[viatrix-glow]

tagged in a thing by @mojimallow !!! thank u this was fun 🥺🫶🏽

share your wallpaper:

my phone lockscreen is switch fanart made for the everlasting happiness zine, and my homescreen is vanitas kh but puppy (my friend made him for me years ago)

last song you listened to:

it was something from the genshin ost i don’t remember (i was doing notes)

currently reading:

i haven’t read a book since before covid

last movie you watched:

madagascar (it was my bday)

craving:

for things to be. less stressful rn. and for my brain to give me a break

what are you wearing right now:

oneshot shirt from fangamer (it’s the one w niko and lamplighter aka one of my fave shirts ever) and comfy pants

how tall are you:

like 5’2? 160cm?? give or take

piercings:

just my earlobes.. i want more on my ears but i’m scared of the pain

tattoos:

just one! twewy reaper skull on my wrist :) it’s fairly small. i want another

glasses?contacts?:

tried contacts but gave up. glasses all the way

last drink:

i only drink water

last thing i ate:

fried rice!!!!

favorite color:

i don’t rlly have a set one but i love black and pink and red

current obsession:

still in the enstars/twst brainrot

unrelated obsession:

doing my nails? i guess??? do them every week and i love seeing designs online

any pets:

two cats!!! i love them w my whole heart

do you have a crush on anyone:

i don’t know how to distinguish between platonic and romantic feelings so we will go w i dont know

favorite fictional characters:

the characters i want to microwave:

the last place you traveled to:

new york/new jersey for a concert!!! very fun

i’m not gonna tag anyone but do this if u want!! thank u again for the tag moji 🥺🥺🫶🏽