#the-chosen-anakin

[oifaaa]

"Why would Padme choose Anakin when Obi-wan was right there" Shut Up Maybe the fact that Padme did choose Anakin and agreed to marry him after a week should tell you a wee bit more about what type of person Padme is

[rochenn]

Neat how both Cody and Obi-Wan are absolute bruisers when push comes to shove. Something about being composed and professional while also having a talent for inflicting blunt force trauma. Rocking up to the Star War with nothing but your fists and winning (most of the time)

[auxxrat]

so sick and tired of the “jedi are an evil and abusive cult that steals children” as if half the reason they weren’t protecting these children is bc sith were out killing them or TURNING THEM INTO SITH. they weren’t even STEALING children to begin with I thought we all knew that was Palpatine’s game not Yoda’s.

[ominouspuff]

Downtime with the disaster lineage

[leia04]

Star Wars; Anakin Skywalker. 🖤

[jaca3rys]

Padmé has top tier self control in ROTS I would have fucked this man every day of my LIFE there would be no "not here"

[graciepasty]

Anakin Skywalker. Revenge of the Sith (2005).

[antianakin]

Out of curiosity: do you believe Anakin was truly was the Chosen One or was it Luke the whole time?

Anakin. 1000% Anakin. I believe it's Anakin as per Word of God, as well, but I don't have the quote on hand right now.

Part of the weirdness over this is because of how the films were released, Luke is obviously the main character of the original trilogy of films, he's the one on the hero's journey, and there was never any mention of a prophecy in those films. So when the Prequels came out and made this whole prophecy thing for Anakin, it's understandable that people sort-of looked at it and went, "But if Anakin was the Chosen One, why is Luke the hero in the end still?" Which has obviously led to a bunch of theories that it was Luke all along, that Qui-Gon misunderstood the prophecy or just misapplied it to Anakin, or even that Luke BECAME the new Chosen One when Anakin fell (all of which are made worse by Rebels sort-of validating this take by having Obi-Wan claim Luke is the Chosen One). I get it.

But the entire purpose of Anakin's story to me only works if he IS the Chosen One and he just... fails. Anakin fails. He defies his own destiny and it destroys an entire galaxy. One of the BEST things about the Prequels is how hard they work to subvert certain tropes and narrative expectations. Padme and Anakin are forbidden lovers, but it's a toxic unhealthy love and the relationship is forbidden for good reason. Anakin is willing to burn down the world for Padme, but it's not at all romantic when the world is actually burning and it's going to burn both of them down with it. Prophecies exist, Chosen Ones exist, but prophecies can be DEFIED and Chosen Ones can fail if they're making selfish choices. You only get the happy ending from the prophecy if you're making the right choices.

So Anakin DOES end up destroying the Sith and bringing balance to the Force, but only when he makes a choice that's primarily SELFLESS in nature. He MIGHT'VE been able to destroy Palpatine the Sith way, but then he himself would still be a Sith and so the prophecy isn't actually fulfilled. There would be no balance in the Force while Anakin remains a Sith. So until he figures out how to leave his darkness behind, he'll continue to defy his own fate.

And that is a FASCINATING way to represent a prophecy and apply a destiny to someone without completely removing their agency or making all of their choices unimportant. Anakin's choices literally define the fate of the GALAXY because the prophecy only gets to come true when he makes the right choices. Theoretically, Anakin could defy this prophecy until he dies. Personally, I think that this is something that could happen. Anakin could make that choice, he could literally just defy the prophecy FOREVER and it would just never happen. It doesn't mean he ISN'T the Chosen One, he just chose incorrectly and so the prophecy never actually gets to come true.

I also like that this leaves room for other people to achieve the same end without being part of the prophecy. Theoretically, Palpatine could still be killed in other ways, even while Anakin's alive. The prophecy isn't stopping someone ELSE from killing Palpatine (or Anakin), it's just a LOT harder. We do see people more attuned to the Force kind-of stepping back from something they can feel is perhaps someone else's destiny or following someone specifically because they have a destiny for something, but the opportunity is there for regular people to step up where a Chosen One has failed. And it's one of the things I love MOST about the Star Wars universe, I love the way this worldbuilding works.

Luke is still a hero, obviously, he plays a major role in Anakin ultimately making that final selfless choice, his faith in Anakin and his refusal to kill Anakin and his adherence to Jedi compassion are what eventually help lead Anakin towards making the choice that allows the prophecy to finally be fulfilled. I'm not downplaying Luke's importance or his heroism at all, but I think it kind-of makes all of his choices even MORE heroic if he's NOT a Chosen One. He doesn't do these things because he was destined to do them, but because he's a good, kind, brave, strong person making the choice to do heroic things. He's choosing to do what he believes needs to be done for the greater good. He's just a regular person, with no prophecies to fulfill, having to step into the shoes of a hero because his father failed and threw the galaxy into chaos. How is that NOT more interesting than just saying Luke was the real Chosen One all along?

So you'll never catch me saying the Chosen One was anybody but Anakin in canon. It's absolutely Anakin and it'll always BE Anakin. You remove SO MUCH of the best parts of Star Wars if you take away that part of it.

[evilminji]

I just realized something REALLY obvious?

That frankly? Should have occurred to me sooner.

The Star Wars Chosen One Prophecy!

.......name your local prophecies for me real quick. Closest religious order. Heck, YOUR religious order. Any of um.

How many do you KNOW? Remember the EXACT wording of? Even the "no really guys, this is SUPER IMPORTANT" Types. I don't no any. Most folks don't! At best? You Remember the general jist of it. Cliff notes. Not those tricky, damning, details... like the Exact Wording.

Also!!!

Pretty FUCKIN Human-centric? To just? ASSUME the Chosen One? Is gonna be a humanoid? It SPECIFICALLY did say? "Born to no father" RIGHT???

Wouldn't it, therefore, make SENSE? To start watching species that DON'T HAVE MALES?? Or be in the look out for a lesbian couple created kid, where one of them is trans? Heck, might be cloning! Chosen One could have been a Vode!

Prophecies are fucky like that!

Frankly? Tell me how Baby Yoda's get made. Are there Fathers THERE? Hmmmm? Grogu might be the Chosen One! We don't know! Can't know! There are BILLIONS of Father-less entities! And frankly? We don't even know how good that Seer WAS! Or the exact age when the vision occured!

We all know DAMN WELL, the just by KNOWING the future, you may change it. How many actions were or WEREN'T taken because of that prophecy? How has that rippled across time? Changed the future they saw? Because they spoke of it. Recorded it. Let it weigh heavy on the minds of Jedi for generations to come?

Maybe Anakin Skywalker WOULD have been the Chosen One. WOULD have brought balance. Been everything good and bright and wonderful, just as they saw it.

If they had kept their damn mouth shut.

But they didn't, did they? And they set the stage for a Sith Tragedy instead. A shattering of the Order. The deaths of countless. It became the very thing the Jedi are warned against. Taught to be worry off. Yet we're blinded too in their own house.

They became attached to it. Fearful of it. Obsessed over it. Hated it.

That one prophecy? Became a focal point of Sithly poison inside their hearts.

They should have Let It Go.

[aj-artjunkyard]

Want so badly for any full-potential Anakins to be the same size as Vader, if not bigger.

Obsessed with the idea that he just keeps growing, that by the time he’s in his late twenties he’s over seven foot tall.

Full-potential Anakin being the size of the Mortis gods and having the same distinct aura of other, so much so that they have to scratch out the ‘human’ in his med-file (they were never fully sure of that one anyways)

[dreamswithghosts]

[lieutenant-teach]

People who believe that Luke was the Chosen One.

People who believe the Jedi weren’t allowed to feel, and the Sith were feeling too much. 

These are fanons.

It’s not canonical.

It’s not true.

Please read what the author (George Lucas) actually said about it.

I’m just really tired of semi-knowing fans who spread this stupidity with a lot of conviction. Probably, some gatekeeping would actually help Star Wars.

[mollysunder]

If The Acolyte had gotten a second season, I feel like they would have revealed that the soul Mae and Osha share will become Anakin's after their story reached its planned conclusion.

It can't be an accident that Mae and Osha were so similar to Anakin, but just a little off because they were born wrong. Osha's struggle with autonomy and self-worth, paired with Mae's unhealthy attachment issues feel like pieces Anakin.

Sure it could be coincidence, or even the writers playing with previous dynamics, but they kept hitting us over the head that Osha and Mae were raised to believe that they SHOULD be one person. That they were born of the Force, but were born wrong because their existence was not of the Force's will. And the only way they for them to be right is to be one, but to truly be one they should have been born by the Force's will, and the only one who fits that description is Anakin!

The show was probably going to conclude at their deaths in a way that harkens Anakin's birth.

[bibxrbie]

"Between Anakin and Luke who is the better Jedi?"

"Who's the strongest?"

Blah blah blah.

Every single person who thinks it is Anakin is wrong because Anakin "coolest thing about me is my kids" Skywalker would beat you up for thinking that his son isn't the greatest thing of all time.

[incorrect-jedi]

Ezra: You can’t beat us! We have something even more powerful than the force!

Darth Vader: And what might that be?

Ezra: It’s the power...of updog.

Cal: Oh my god oh my god oh my god-

Vader: What is...updog?

Cal: OH MY GOD OH MY GOD-

[the-far-bright-center]

Disney SW fans who claim to love Anakin but think the Prequels suck, you're part of the problem. And the OT purists who hate the Prequels and then turn around and blame them for why Disney SW sucks...yeah, you're part of the problem too.

One of the many reasons the Disney SW 'Sequels' were so terrible and destructive was because the people making them decided to completely ignore the importance of the Prequels and reject them as an intrinsic part of the saga. And they seemed to believe they were pandering to 'what the fans wanted' by doing this. But the Prequels are half the entire story as Lucas told it, and they just threw it out the window. The Prequels COMPLETED the saga. But Disney pretended that the saga wasn't complete yet and that it was up to them to do so. Instead of just making 'interquel' material from the beginning (like Rogue One, etc), they arrogantly took it upon themselves to 'finish' a story that was already completed back in 2005. And in doing so, Disney also decided to reframe the saga into something decidedly lesser (a repetitive grimdark story where the cycle 'wasn't broken ackshually', instead of an uplifting and transcendent mythic fairytale), but one which would allow them to continue making 'new canon' material indefinitely (cause that is more lucrative for them). But the Prequels had already reframed the saga and given it a very specific meaning. Without the Prequels, ALL of Star Wars loses that meaning. And without a happy ending for the OT characters and an unequivocally positive resolution to the their storyline, the entire saga is rendered into a perpetual tragedy. So, unless and until so-called 'Star Wars fans' can acknowledge and embrace just how intrinsic the Prequels are to the fictional story they supposedly 'like', they will be running around in circles trying to blame Disney's failures on the very thing that Disney so carelessly ignored and discarded in the first place.