#the yale episodes are so fun

[average-if-enjoyer]

Children of Cain: The Ballad of the Young Gods as a Netflix series by @childrenofcain-if

Had a lot of fun making this. I always enjoyed seeing these sort of things pop up for IFs so to make my own was an interesting experience.

Credits and musings under the cut. It's a wall of text so don't worry about it.

Who's Watching template belongs to @bitchronan link to the post itself.

Overview, Show Preview and Episode Playing templates belong to @seungnm link to the post itself.

The picture of Yale in the Show Preview template belongs to @poems4proserpine saw it pop up and knew it was exactly what I needed.

Dialogue used for the subtitles is from this post from one of the many C snippets the author has written on their blog.

I really enjoyed portraying the show and episode summaries as if it was the MC's dad narrating them. In a way it's him keeping an eye on them which felt appropriate. Especially if he is indeed Hades from the beginning...

I created this with MC and C in mind, and who doesn't want to watch 24 episodes of a growing romance with a banger of a pay-off in the second season's finale? And there's still another to go!

(Don't worry, they definitely confess and kiss by the end of the first season. Or do they...)

But I should stop typing. I might try to make some social media templates to show a glimpse into my MCs, even if I think they would hardly use social media, if at all.

I swear if there's any spelling/edit mistakes I may cry. And no, the British spelling 'realise' does not count before any of you decide to be funny.

I'm watching you, and so is M.

[sakuralovespossums]

Human Frylock x GN Reader

Honestly, you getting with Frylock makes the most sense

He’s objectively the most attractive, smart, charming, good with kids, you get it

But just cuz he’s the most humble, doesn’t mean he isn’t equally insane

There was a whole episode where he went full yandere and implanted his brain in the corpse of his crush’s dead boyfriend

BUT HE’S STILL A KEEPER!!!!

Calls you “babe” or “hon” often

Always has an arm around your waist when going out

It’s also a subtle way of showing people your his when someone tries to hit on you. He doesn’t get aggressive or anything but his usual frown does deepen and his tone gets more blunt

If the harasser still doesn’t take the hint and really gets on his nerves, he’ll use one of his inventions to brutally mutilate them then act like nothing happened

Other than that, he’s still generally a pretty chill guy and is the best boyfriend

Always plans ahead for alot of things like dates, trips, grocery shopping, special events (my ADHD ass is so thankful)

For those who deal with periods, he even keeps track of your cycle for you and buys all the things you need like pills, snacks, blankets, etc.

His deep voice is so soothing and he takes full advantage of it lol

One time you saw him without his goatee and you swore for a millisecond he was someone else. It’s just so weird seeing him with a bald face

Shake is an annoying pest who’s always following you around and tries to convince you to ditch Frylock and get with him instead

Carl just thinks your a weirdo for wanting to date one of his weirdo neighbors

There are days where you just walk into your bf’s room and plop your chin on his shoulder as he types away on his computer. No words. Just silence and occasional kisses

He def wears cologne

The only guy to ever make braces look hot

It would be cute if you guys met at one of those prestigious universities like Harvard or Yale. Either you bumped into each other in the same dorm/class building or were assigned to work on a project together. You guys slowly bonded and became friends, to eventually something more

You help him put in his yellow hair dye every few weeks, but you also really like seeing his natural hair color

One time you put in the wrong hair dye by accident and Frylock was left with an ugly colored hair for weeks. You desperately tried to hold back your laughter at seeing how moody he was with messed up hair. Shake wouldn’t stop making fun of him for days

You can’t help but feel a bit bad for him as he has to deal with his chaotic roommates (mostly Shake) all the time, so you help him however you can

Cooking and bringing him food, dragging him out of the house to your place or somewhere fun, buying new science supplies or books with him

He used to go shop for those by himself, but now can’t think of doing it without you since you make it way more fun

He never quite realized how lonely he was until you came along

He teases you about wearing his red sweaters all the time like it’s yours now and sometimes chases you around the house to “get it back”

Frylock is noticeably in a better mood when he’s with you. He doesn’t smile but has an upturned smirk instead of his typical frown and always plays along with whatever joke you tell him. That’s how much in sync you guys are

Everyone sees you two as Meatwad’s parents (his teachers, the neighbors, hell even Carl and Shake)

It doesn’t help that you often go with Frylock to Meatwad’s student/teacher conferences

Or play with/babysit him when your bf’s too busy

Or how you and Frylock always hold Meatwad’s hands when walking to the park

Or come to Frylock’s aid in lecturing him why he’s still listening to MC pee pants when his bed time was an hour ago and………..

Ok maybe you are his parents

NSFW stuff

I just see him as a top. He likes being the one to lead but will let you take the reigns if you want

Again, he uses his voice to his advantage ;)

He likes using toys depending on the mood

I feel like he would tell you he doesn’t mind if you sometimes wanna go solo with your toys (nothing wrong with sexual independence) but secretly grumbles and is jealous lol

Shake has def walked in more than once just to annoy you two and ask if he can join

*slams the door in his face*

He has more length than girth

Frylock has a pretty well toned build, which really doesn’t help make you any less desperate for him

And maybe also make you feel a bit self conscious of your own body. He tells you he finds you gorgeous just the way you are

You love how his goatee scratches your skin, lips, thighs, everywhere as he kisses you all over

Is so amazing at aftercare. Always checking if he didn’t go too hard on you, gets you a towel, water, snacks, anything you need

[baura-bear]

tell me about your ww2 men

ohohoho you have no clue the can of worms you've opened >:)

my primary fixation at the moment is Band of Brothers but I thoroughly enjoy the other HBO war shows (The Pacific, Masters of the Air) and other war media because what's more fun than taking the bond that men form while in their most desperate moments and turning it into something gay!

Band of Brothers is about the 101st Airborne Division and their tour of Europe (specifically Easy Company) My top ships at the moment are Winnix and Baberoe (though there are SEVERAL more but that would take hours to get into). Also gotta preface because I know you haven't seen it. I am NOT shipping the actual dudes. Just their fictional counterparts (though a lot of the stuff irl men did was suspicious as hell...)

Winnix is Dick Winters and Lewis Nixon who are basically polar opposites. Dick grew up in rural Pennsylvania to a Mennonite mother, never drank, humble family, you get the vision. Nix was super fucking rich, went to Yale, had family homes in New York and California, spent his youth traveling Europe, and was an alcoholic. Despite them being polar opposites they became best friends and spent the entirety of the war side by side. Like. riiiigghhhtttt. suuuureeee. you're not in love. basically every guy that wrote about them was like "yeah i had no clue why they got along they were nothing alike" anyway they defo fucked in a foxhole

Baberoe Is Eugene Roe (medic hehe) and Edward "Babe" Heffron. There's an entire episode that centers around their dynamic and Eugene's role as a medic. The entire episode Babe is getting more and more frustrated that Gene won't call him "Babe" (like everyone else does) and is instead calling him "Heffron" or "Edward". This episode takes place during the Battle of the Bulge so it's pretty dismal and Eugene is just becoming more and more distant trying to disassociate from the horrors of battle and watching men die. Babe's friend Julian ends up dying and he feels guilty because they promised each other that if either died they would collect his stuff and bring it to his mother. Babe is unable to get Julian's stuff so he's really fucking torn up. Eugene quite literally feeds him chocolate and then cuddles him in a foxhole???? because that's a normal thing to do right. everyone cuddles their homies in the foxhole. The episode ends with Babe and Eugene sitting together in a foxhole while Eugene patches up a cut on Babe's hand (I can't even begin to unpack the significance of the bandage he uses but trust me there's more gay levels to this shit) Eugene calls him "Babe" finally which Babe is very excited about "Hey, Gene, you called me Babe!" "I did? when?" "Just now." "Babe. I guess i did." "Heheh! Babe." "Heffron. Watch the goddamn line" Also Eugene is from Louisiana and Babe is from Philly so they both have silly accents that I love

Beyond like making them gay and shipping them I do actually just think the story is very compelling and admirable AND it's a beautiful show. Like from the cinematography to the writing, acting, music. It's so good. There's a reason it holds up 20+ years later

i could literally write paragraphs but i won't subject you to that torture

[blairwaldcrf]

this literally the best Rory/Logan AYITL endgame take I've ever seen and I'm just!!

from Augustine90 on reddit:

I also just rewatched an episode of Gilmore Girls and it also got me thinking about the enigma that is Rory's and Logan's relationship. I'm a hopeless romantic and determined Rory & Logan shipper, so here is my theory :) Fun fact - I already had this theory at the end of the original series! I absolutely believe in the circle of life theory. However, people seem to forget that there is a third Gilmore Girl, Emily, who in my opinion plays a very important role for the storyline to come to a full circle. When Emily and Richard first met, Richard was to marry another girl. However, he fell in love with Emily and despite his family's disapproval, they ended up together and were beyond happy (most of the time). While Lorelai distanced herself from her parent's world and rebelled against their values and views, it's thanks to Rory that Lorelai eventually reestablishes a relationship with her parents. In that sense, I felt like Rory - having grown up in simpler circumstances than Lorelai - managed to recognize and appreciate the value of Richard & Emily's world in a way that the rebellious and proud Lorelai never could. While Emily and Lorelai represent two extremes, Rory is the link between these two worlds. There seem to be clues for that all over the original series. While it's important for Rory to work hard for her accomplishments, she also made many choices that brought her closer to her grandparent's world, such as for example choosing Yale and supporting her grandmother's social functions, such as her involvement in the DAR. Rory is not a posh snob, but I think she sees the value in her family's heritage. This bond only strengthens when Richard, whom she dearly loved, passed away. The fact the only right place for Rory to write "Gilmore Girls" is in Richard's old office, highlights the importance of the role her grandparents play in her and Lorelai's life. So in that sense, while Logan may have some similarities with Christopher, to me, he has more similarities to Richard (they met at Yale, he's a boy from a good family, but not scared to choose love over family, he's intellectual and smart but also funny, etc.). Just because they are not together now, it doesn't mean that they never will be. I have a strong suspicion that he won't get married to Odette and that he and Rory will find their way back together eventually. Most people never talk about this, but what bothered me in the revival is that we never learn who actually bought Emily's house resp. whether she actually ended up selling it after all. I have this idea that Rory and Logan end up together and they will raise their child in Emily's and Richard's house. As for the really big question, why they didn't end up together right now: Well, first of all, I think they needed to keep the fans longing for more :) It's a cruel and very Woody Allen-esque thing to do, but it's the imperfection of the (still) unfulfilled romance that makes the storyline of Rory and Logan so romantic. It's clear that they both love each other. But the timing is not right. When Logan first proposed to Rory, the timing was not correct because Rory wanted to find her own way in life prior to settling. The revival reveals that clearly, Rory hasn't exactly found her place yet since the whole journalism thing hasn't worked out yet. I think it's very important for Rory to be strong and happy by herself, before committing to someone else - something she got from her mother.

[picklesaremyenemies]

rory's 'dropped out of yale, DAR' era is so bad, but then there's also the lorelai parts of the episodes where its just luke, lorelai and her psychotic dog Paul Anka, which is fun.

I love dog Paul Anka.

[dontirrigateme]

*arrives at lecture hall and takes out notebook* *raises hand* 4, 12, and 24 please!!!

I'm sorry, the lecture has ended. Thank you for your interest.

lol anyhoo, thanks for the ask, stranger...however, I'm going to find it a little difficult to lecture when i feel like we've talked about these things to no end. That being said, let's see what I can come up with.

4. The character I relate to the most I think is the bazooka. I seem inconspicuous, but I'm volatile and I'm also kidding. You know my answer is going to be Nixon (minus the wads of cash and Yale education). The sleep issues, the cynicism, the way we value pets over children (kidding again, stand down). But also, if he has a job to do he doesn't screw around (I mean...not a lot). Another character might be Speirs - he does the job and moves on to the next thing, doesn't indulge in rumors (except to perpetuate them...I'd totally offer cigarettes to people if I caught them talking about the POW story). But he does what's necessary for the given situation, and moves on. Like when the war is going on, he abandoned hope and accepted that he'd probably die, because that's what he had to do in order to be effective. Then, when the war is over, it was okay to hope again, and the mission now is to preserve life (so to speak), so we see him doing everything he can for Chuck when he gets shot. Also, we have the same mindset when it comes to looting (for anyone reading, when I saw this episode for the first time and saw Harry not sharing the silverware with Ron, I told my sister, "I'd be taking shit off the walls then," and Ron promptly goes for the giant nazi banner).

12. I think i mentioned somewhere that I was more shocked at the things that were true (like the stuff Speirs did, I don't know how that guy lived through the war, he had no business being that badass). I had said it was Blithe's death, and the most shocking thing about it was that first they had you believing that it took about 4 years for his wounds to finally kill him, and then that they just shrugged and were like "our bad" and never fixed the episode where it says he died. Weird.

24. A character to be my best friend? Can I say all of them? Assuming I can't, I'm gonna go with the smokestack. Favorite character, I freaking love that guy. Smokey would be an absolute blast to hang out with - he's scaring Tab with bugs, swimming in the Roman baths at British museums, and telling the military that his dad wrote a note that says he has to come home now. The guy sounds like so much fun and he deserved more screen time dammit.

I know, not much of a lecture. I will hang my head in shame accordingly. But I appreciate the ask. 🙃

[kissandships]

My Gilmore Girls Opinions Now That I’ve Finished The Series & The Revival

Rory is not as horrible as people are saying

Michel is annoying AF. I only understand half of what he says, and he’s so unnecessarily mean and rude

Sorry but I’m with Lorelai— I would not want my daughter to be hanging around a boy like Jess

I don’t really like Dave. But I don’t hate him either. He’s just kinda… meh

How come Dean became such a big jealous, controlling jackass?

Dean is a good boyfriend as long as he doesn’t feel threatened

👆🏻Which means he has a small dick

Jess is terrible

Richard is an asshole and a cheater

Paris is one of my favorite characters

I don’t think Rory choosing Yale is so… disappointing

Man, this show is Jewish. I love it ❤️

Poor, poor Lindsey 😭

Also Rory in 4x22… 🤬

First impression of Logan: what a gigantic ASSHOLE

I agree with Luke in 5x5– Rory and Dean shouldn’t be together

Michele deserved that chewing out from Lorelai

Emily deserved every chew out from Rory and Lorelai

Luke would have told Lorelai about April, ASP totally changed his character in season 6

6x16 shows what kind of Dad Christopher really is, and Lorelai should be thanking God that he left high and dry

Rory and Logan shouldn’t have gotten back together after he cheated on her

Did I miss the episode where Jackson resigned from town selectman or whatever the hell it is that Taylor does?

Sleeping with Christopher had everything to do with Luke

I really hate Michele. It’s gotten to the point where I either skip his scenes or mute him

Okay, okay, I’m just going to say it. I’m going to say it: Christopher has a small dick

Rogan are growing on me

What happened to Sookie’s third baby?

I cried when Lorelai sang I Will Always Love You to Luke 😭

Luke Danes is the DEFINITION, the EPITOME of “if he could, he would”!!

Why are Netflix shows and movies so dark?

Luke and Lorelai forgetting Rory’s boyfriend Paul is funny, but Rory wouldn’t forget him like that

Luke and Lorelai would’ve been married by now, and they definitely would’ve had The Kid Talk

Paris is still very insane 😂

Luke not telling anyone the WiFi password is so Luke

The Real Paul Anka is still living? (As of 2016)

WHY ARE THEY STILL LYING TO EACH OTHER???!!!

Fall was a nice episode, Spring was fun because of Paris, but Summer and Winter? 🥱

The delivery of The Gazette was actually funny and in tune with the original series

I hate, hate, HATE that they’ve reduced Rory to “the other woman”

The musical was weird as hell. It seemed like they were just wasting time. And I know it happened before Brokenwood s9, but it felt like they were ripping that off

Carole King belting out I Feel The Earth Move and everyone saying it wasn’t catchy was funny, I gotta admit. I like that sort of meta humor

They did Lauren Graham so dirty, putting her in that lacy black dress

[furiarossa]

Gargoyles vs ChatGPT

It seems that ChatGPT knows NOTHING about the tv show “Gargoyles” and tends to... invent a lot of things. We tried to correct some of these errors in the beginning, to tell the AI "Hey, this is not exactly what happened in the episode", but in the end we thought... but yeah.. why not indulge, then?

So here is the TV series "Gargoyles", narrated by ChatGPT.

1. Talk me about love... in a weird and wrong way... and why is Angela there? (Also, loving the “Blind date Owen Burnett”. We’ll talk about that later.).

2. He loves redheads... and Margot Yale, I guess?

(Also, Owen weeping in a corner because he got replaced by Margot).

3. Okay, okay, this is the plot of a fanfic. Which of you wrote this?

4. Uhm... this Alexander's "origin story" is all wrong, but, oh, okay. Now we know the power of the Cauldron of life (???).

5. An epic Dragonball style fight between Titania and Fox! We... we didn't remember this.

6. Ah, that time in "Eye of the Beholder", in which Lexington saves Matt Bluestone with an helicopter, from the evil Demona...

7. The “perfect man”?

8. Don't like "The Goliath Chronicles"? Worse for you: you’ll miss the fabulous cameo of... Scrooge McDuck?

9. And finally... the Owen’s blind date episode. It was fun, right? Everyone remembers it!

[bethestaryouareradio]

Celebrating Grandparents

Fun with our Grandparents!

"Grandparents are both our past and our future. In some ways, they are what has gone before, and in others, they are what we will become." —Fred Rogers

Hosts Julia and Keerthi talk about the superpowers of grandparents. They possess the unique ability to turn every mundane event into an epic adventure. Each one is a treasure trove of adventure, mystery, and, quite often, questionable fashion choices from their youth. They’ve seen it all—wars, moon landings, and the evolution of the telephone from rotary to touch. Keerthi’s grandparents are Indian and don’t speak English, so they couldn’t be on the show today. But Keerthi shares how much she loves hanging out with them on their coconut farm when she visits India. One set of her grandparents is from the same village where Kamala Harris’ mom grew up! Julia introduces us to her two amazing and accomplished grandpas.

Yukon joined Julia and Keerthi for a lively discussion about how he came to America from China and became a renowned economist, not seeing China again until he became the World Bank's country director for China with an office in Beijing. His stories and advice will have listeners craving more. Unfortunately, Julia’s grandfather on her dad’s side was unable to come on the program but she interviewed him about his life earlier. Jonathan Howe is a retired four-star United States Navy admiral, who worked at the White House with Henry Kissinger and President Nixon. He was the Special Representative for Somalia to United Nations Secretary-General Boutros Boutros-Ghali. He met his future wife at age 13 and the rest is history. Both grandpas have Wikipedia pages.

Yukon Huang: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yukon_Huang

Jonathan Howe: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Howe .

This show honors grandparents everywhere! Grandparents are the heart of our history, the soul of our future. Celebrate your grandparents. Happy Grandparents Day!

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Bio: Yukon Huang:

Yukon Huang, Julia’s grandpa, was born in Chengdu/Sichuan and grew up with his grandfather in Changsha/Hunan. In 1949, his grandfather sent him to the United States, where his parents were studying. He did not see China again until he became the World Bank's country director for China and had his office in Beijing. He attended school in Washington, then the only Chinese among 600 students.[3]Yukon Huang is a senior fellow with the Asia Program. He was formerly the World Bank’s country director for China and earlier director for Russia and the Former Soviet Union Republics. He is an adviser to the World Bank, Asian Development Bank, Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank, and various governments and corporations. His research focuses on China’s economy and its regional and global impact. Huang has published widely on development issues in both professional journals and the public media. His articles have appeared frequently in the Financial Times, South China Morning Post, New York Times, Wall Street Journal, Foreign Policy, Bloomberg, Foreign Affairs, and the National Interest. His books include East Asia Visions, Reshaping Economic Geography in East Asia, and International Migration and Development in East Asia and the Pacific. His most recent book, Cracking the China Conundrum: Why Conventional Economic Wisdom Is Wrong  (Oxford University Press) focuses on U.S.-China Economic and Technology tensions. He has a PhD in economics from Princeton University and a BA from Yale University. https://carnegieendowment.org/people/yukon-huang?lang=en

Listen at Voice America Network, Empowerment Channel: https://www.voiceamerica.com/episode/151308/fun-with-our-grandparents

[mikereads]

Blair is rehearsing for Romeo and Juliet with a boy and he brings her home. He tries to kiss her but she pulls away saying she is busy with doing her poem assignment. He insists reciting a poem “let me count the ways” (🤮). Thankfully they are interrupted when the lights get turned on. Blair assumes everyone is asleep but is mistaken. She says they are just rehearsing and shakes his hand goodbye.

The episode is called “Emily Dickinson”. Mr.Bradley says the girls may not like poetry because it’s “flowery” aka gay! He asked Blair if she has hers done and she lies she does. Late Tootie asks her if she’s finished yet and Blair says no she just needs some inspiration. She teases Blair about the boy she saw but she shrugs her off still not inspired even after they kiss. She then picks up a book of Emily’s poetry. Aka the episode title. She teases she can’t be much based on her hair but once she reads a poem it’s a different story. She reads Beauty crowds me. Tootle doesn’t get it but Blair does

“I just have to get inspired, poems by Emily Dickinson”.

“Its a beautiful poem. You know she writes the way I’d write if I had the time.”- Gay!

In true sitcom fashion this gives her the idea to change a few lines and plagiarize it. Passing it off as her own by giving it a Blair touch. Tootie says it’s a bad idea but Blair doesn’t listen. She makes an excuse it’s okay since shes already dead- teen logic. When she first picked up the book she pretended she wasn’t familiar with her but she knows she died in 1886. More on that/ Blair is someone staying up late and reading Emily Dickinson poems alone under the covers, lesbihonest!

Blair feels guilty when she gets an A+ and everyone gets bad grades. Yes it’s to show plagiarism is wrong but also how did a English teacher who teaches poetry not recognize an Emily Dickinson poem that a teen girl slightly altered - no wonder he is fired before s2!

“So what are you going to do now Miss. Emily Dickinson,”- Tootie, I agree Blair is gay like Emily Dickinson.

“Poetry is like love it is better the second time around.” Blair x Jo!

Blair says she couldn’t sleep and Mrs, Garett asks her if it’s about Jason(?) she says no she has been busy thinking about Emily Dickinson, gay. She confesses she copied the poem and is convinced to come clean since she feels quite ugly for stealing. Jason then comes over and says he wants to kiss some more but Blair is preoccupied and not interested. She wants to come clean for what she did but Mr. Bradley says she can leave so Jason pushes her out the door.

Aka Jason is 17/18 not sure but he is doing college applications, Blair is 14, EW!!!!! 🤮

He then tries to wrap his arm around her and kiss her pulling all the “moves” but Blair isn’t interested. She is actually quite annoyed. When he leans in to kiss her she pulls away and turns her head having him kiss her cheek instead which is still to much.

“I’m leaving” “I know” That is her response she wants him gone, mood! Then makes fun of saying he’s going to college not war calm tf down. He says it twice insisting to kiss her which is just disgusting. He’s a creep, goodbye “doughboy” mood

“I’m sorry Jason I’m just not into this.” Gay!!!! Actual dialogue need I say more!

He still insists saying he is into (EW, no means no asshole ) but Blair says no she’s not and that she feels guilty. He asks her why they haven’t done anything. She says she has and he thinks she means something else (again the perceptions) but Blair clarifies she means cheating on her poem. He says it’s not a big deal he is cheating to get into Yale. (Which for Blair in later seasons is a big no-no the way she sees Ivy League schools.) He tells her to come here and pulls her towards him. She does try to kiss him but still isn’t into it. She cuts it off again saying sorry she needs to do her poem. The OG washing my hair excuse to get away from a guy and she runs inside. To confess she cheated and that she may be gay like Emily but she can’t write like her- sort of.

She wins a poetry contest third place but again how??? How did no one realize it was plagiarized. I mean Emily Dickinson is one of Americas greatest poets, one of the worlds greatest and changed poetry forever! How?????

This is Blair on a date what a very heterosexual thing for a girl to do on a date. Loll a very not gay girl who doesn’t suppress thoughts of hugging and touching girls. How strange- lolll I had to. I mean she doesn’t look miserable at all (sarcasm)

The first line of her poem is how she doesn’t like what she sees when she looks in the mirror….- gay!

[frazzledsoul]

The thing with Logan in the planetarium episode that I can't really agree with is him using the fact that Rory is living at his place as a pointer against her when he offered for her to stay there. Sure, it's Rory benefiting from Logan having an apartment and not paying rent, but they're in a romantic relationship together and the key point here is that he offered. To me that comment of his is more of a personal attack against Rory in a similar way to how her article felt like a personal attack against him and his friends, but even that is not as comparable because we don't really see Logan be that incredibly close to those people. And it also feels lackluster when you recall that Logan has always had a love-hate relationship with the rich world he's a part of: in season 6 he was more than fine drinking during the day just to get through having to socialize with older rich people at one of the events that Rory organizes for her grandmother, he constantly argues that he's only being pushed through one door and has no further options because of his father, all while neglecting to consider the sheer benefits he has just from being in his family, and then in season 7, not even 5 episodes near the end, he's at least accepted that he's rich but is now all defensive about it?

It's just inconsistent writing on the character's part that in turn makes me feel disinterested in this whole side of his character that is so attached to who he is. If it was a more concretely written development for him, I'd at least accept it in season 7, but the writers felt like they needed to hammer in Logan slumming it in like 4 episodes before the end when he abruptly proposes to Rory and then dumps her. That's why the planetarium argument is neither here nor there for me when it comes to Logan and him calling out Rory. If he came from humbler origins I'd fully understand his criticism, but he doesn't. And he himself has such shifting feelings about being part of the rich world and his supposed friends, not to mention how this issue isn't even really resolved well within the episode for me because he goes from criticizing Rory's approach to being all "you intimidate me because you're such a good writer", that wasn't the issue they were arguing about. That's why I still don't agree with fans of his saying how this one scene is important in terms of Logan calling out Rory. Does this scene lead to any change in their relationship and Rory's own view of her privilege? No it doesn't. She still remains aloof as to how much privilege she has when she can't get into the NYT fellowship and Emily is even all "you didn't get it because of nepotism!". That even may be true, but Rory being able to finish Yale with no further student loans and a solid curriculum for future work is still more than other people get.

So pointing out that she doesn't pay rent there was a low blow for Logan and he knows it, which is why he apologized, but I don't think that makes every other point he made invalid. For me, it's not so much Rory's belief that "these people are rich, I'm not, therefore I have the right to make as much fun in them in print as I want, even though their chief sin is being boring!" but that these people were important to Logan, he needed them to further his goals, and she didn't care and decided to make fun of them anyway. It doesn't matter if they're his best friends or he likes them that much personally (they're not, he doesn't) you just shouldn't....do that. It's morally and ethically wrong. Find another angle. Rory didn't seem to care. The fact that Logan makes the connection with the website guy himself (to further her goals) when she doesn't care about his makes this even worse. However, I have little to no respect for Rory's profession in general because of stuff like this: journalists often seek to hurt and screw over any target they can find just because they can, and they don't care if their targets deserve it or the consequences of their actions. And I'll point out that Rory gets exactly in this frame of mind when she hurts Lorelai in AYITL by insisting on writing her side of Lorelai's life story when Lorelai all but BEGS her to find another angle and just write her side. You should tread more carefully when it comes to people you care about. Often she just doesn't.

This is why I kept going back to Jess, because Rory essentially ruined what should have been a great night for him because she was mad at Logan because her feelings took precedence over his. He didn't use her callousness against her (good for him) and she knew she had fucked up and treated him badly and apologized (good for her) but that doesn't mean any of it was right. In both cases Logan and Jess are trying to be adults and Rory has little respect for either of them.

How Logan feels about his privilege in general and Rory's ability to criticize it when she comes from similar privilege herself is a separate issue, but the fact that it is a conflict in the first place is reason enough for me to say no, this was not the second worst episode in the series and doesn't deserve it's reputation. And this is a low blow because Jennie Snyder Urman had no way of knowing this when she wrote this episode, but it's immensely amusing to me that Rory argues that she doesn't have a trust fund like Logan does when it's fairly obvious that she is using family money to get by in AYITL and ASP didn't want to say that outright.

So point being in general...this is not an altogether terrible storyline, Logan made some good points, and it's probably worth it enough by itself to move the episode out of the "second worst episode ever" category.

[saebaragi]

listen, i'm a paris x rory enthusiastic but i can't ignore the tension between paris and janet, they start arguing and i'm like "kiss! kiss! kiss!"

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Lingthusiasm Episode 74: Who questions the questions?

We use questions to ask people for information (who’s there?), but we can also use them to make a polite request (could you pass me that?), to confirm social understanding (what a game, eh), and for stylistic effect, such as ironic or rhetorical questions (who knows!).

In this episode, your hosts Lauren Gawne and Gretchen McCulloch get enthusiastic about questions! We talk about question intonations from the classic rising pitch? to the British downstep (not a dance move...yet), and their written correlates, such as omitting a question mark in order to show that a question is rhetorical or intensified. We also talk about grammatical strategies for forming questions, from the common (like question particles and tag questions in so many languages), to the labyrinthine history that brings us English’s very uncommon use of “do” in questions. Plus: the English-centrically-named wh-word questions (like who, what, where), why we could maybe call them kw-word questions instead (at least for Indo-European), and why we don’t need to stress out as much about asking “open” questions.

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‘British intonation: Meghan teaches us’ post from English Speech Services

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Yale Grammatical Diversity Project English in North America entry on Canadian Eh

Liz Stokoe Twitter thread on open-ended questions

Lingthusiasm episode ‘Corpus linguistics and consent - Interview with Kat Gupta’

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Superlinguo post ‘New Publication: Questions and answers in Lamjung Yolmo’

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[radiant-reid]

waittttt em went to an ivy??? which?

she did !! we love a smart queen.

LET'S TALK ABOUT THEM PRE-BAU

in her first episode, she says she corrects Hotch when he asks about her going to Brown and says she went to Yale (ironically, Spencer's safety). and it actually makes her the character who went to the school with the lowest acceptance rate

Then there's Spencer and Penelope both went to Caltech, although she dropped out so she likely doesn't actually have a degree. Spencer also mentions going to MIT in one episode but he's got like 100 degrees so maybe he lived in Cambridge for a while. i love that this is technically canon and i will never admit it was a writer's mistake

in terms of acceptance rates, next is Morgan who went to Northwestern and then presumably Northwestern law on a football scholarship, fun fact. Then he became a police officer. why go through all that to be a cop ?? who knows

at .1% higher acceptance is Doctor Tara Lewis, also an Ivy girl, who went to Dartmouth (smart queen again)

Alex Blake went to Berkeley for her undergrad but she has a PhD, possibly from there but maybe from somewhere else since she taught at Georgetown and worked for the FBI from 24

Hotch went to George Washington University for his JD, presumably there for his undergraduate as well ? (sidenote: GWU is not Georgetown !!! let's get it right) then he worked murder cases long enough to want to join the FBI, where he worked in the Seattle field office before joining the BAU

JJ went to University of Pittsburg on a soccer scholarship, but her senior year at least was at Georgetown, which she mentions to Rossi. I'm guessing her major was communications and she was considering going into politics

i think that's all they mention but if y'all know any others lmk

[24hrfrog]

Thats it imma take all the tgm asian characters and adopt them

some headcanons for my kids (+ I’m basically just channeling my own family/friends/myself onto them <3)

They all have ethnic names period even if theyre not listed in the movie, they have them. (most of the time growing up asian american you will 100% have a name given to u by ur parents/family member/close family friend/grandparents, the only bad that comes out of that is only members of ur family use the name and are the only ones who can pronounce it most of the time and when it comes to papers u sign, u dont rlly include ur asian name bc its like a middle name and isint always necessarily which is p shit, we are given such American first names because they’re easy to pronounce when coming over :/)

Yale has a tradition of inviting flying friends over to his place for New Years for a Korean celebration and makes a seaweed soup thats always eaten for the new year! (something my own family does)

Yale taught Harvard Korean and always has Harvard tag along on Korean trips to visit family! They love Harvard and Harvard loves the food lolol!!! and them ofc!!!

Halo met Fritz first and they stuck together like glue being two of the few asians, when they met Yale they made their own little friend group (i think other pocs can relate, when being in a place where there are ppl who make u feel alienated, finding people who are the same as u is comfortable and its easier to relate to each other, at least in my experience)

Fritz has a small lil “asian glow” when drunk LOL meanwhile Yale is head to toe bright red 💀

Yale bought Halo (and later on Phoenix!!) a hanbok as a birthday present (she would look so pretty in one omg, a hanbok is a traditional korean clothing, they are rlly pretty, its like a flowy dress)

Halo incorporates Mandarin in her english

Yale has no siblings so he basically adopted Halo and Fritz to be like his family, he act like a big ol older brother to them, a lot of his own family is in S. Korea

When Fritz’s grandparents immigrated over, the ones taking down peoples names wrote his last name incorrectly as Avalone (this is a true story from my family, my last name is incorrectly spelled and hence its pronounced incorrectly as well honestly this hc can also go with Halo)

Fritz is the youngest of the three, Yale is the oldest

They all taught each other swear words in their language AHAH

Fritz has a younger sister who got him into kpop (lol my own sister) and he has a lot of photocards, Halo teases him about it even tho she herself is into a lot of jpop and cpop groups

Yale always picks up a kpop album for Fritz and his sister on his Korea trips! ��

When Yale gets angry he rants in Korean (when someone talks super fast in korean its so entertaining, like speak ur truth bro hell yeah but also dont yell at me or ill cry MCNDJD)

Yale’s guilty pleasure is watching Chinese dramas, he and Halo’s mom get together and break down the latest episodes of their shows they bringe whenever he’s in town HAHA (i think Yale would be a hit with Fritz and Halo’s parents)

Fritz is re-learning some of his Mandarin from Halo since as a kid his parents didn’t enforce their languages onto him but he does know more Filipino!! (me shaking my fist at my own parents, i couldve been a fluent bilingual lol)

Sometimes on comms Yale and Harvard will switch to Korean and annoy their flying partner for fun AHAHA

[literatikoo]

Lane Kim deserved better

I mentioned a couple of weeks ago that I would only write Lane Kim meta when I am very very angry because I need to be powered by spite and petty energy to unravel exactly how much of a disservice this show was to Lane and by extension any Asian kid with a similar life. And, well, it's happening now, so buckle up kids, this is going to be a loooong ride because I have a lot to say.

Before we start on the negative aspects, the show got a lot of things about Lane right, which is why I care so much about her character. Yes, ASP obviously didn't know how to write a POC experience and it's seen in the way some very harmful stereotypes were propagated (the tiger mom trope, Mrs Kim's religious beliefs, the depiction of the Kim extended family etc) but at the same time Lane was beautifully written as a character, unlike her plot which left much to be desired. Lane Kim was an Asian girl with rock n roll dreams who had an extremely fraught relationship with her mother and had to fight for even a semblance of independence. And I hate to say it but a lot of daughters of Asian households are forced to hide a part of themselves from their families, so Lane's story was authentic.

Not only was Lane amazing as an individual, she was also a great friend. She was the only one who was really in Rory's corner; she never judged her and supported all of Rory's relationships (my favourite example of this is when she barely tolerated Jess in S2/3 and then did a complete 180 like 5 episodes later, all because Rory decided to finally accept she liked him). Lane never pointed out what Rory was doing wrong not because she was afraid of doing so but because the two of them had been friends for years and Lane believed that Rory would figure it out one day. Lane shows this unconditional kindness not only to Rory but to everyone. She takes in her Korean cousin and teaches her to have fun even when she's afraid that Mrs Kim has replaced her, she lets Gil be in the band because she empathises with him, she takes care of the band and prevents it from breaking up multiple times. And these are only a few examples of Lane being the kindest character on GG.

One of the best things in Gilmore Girls is that the most unproblematic, amazing guy is given to Lane. Dave Rygalski is the best love interest on the show hands down (Sorry to my boy Jess but Dave was LEAGUES ahead of him at 17) and Lane definitely deserved someone like that. Their story was adorable and I would have loved for them to be endgame. However, what grates me is that when I see people talking about Lane "deserving better," it's usually about Dave vs Zach. When Lane actually deserved better as a WHOLE and not only in terms of love interests. I always thought it made more sense for her to end up alone at the end of the og series. Because Lane was a person who craved independence and she was not going to get that while tied to some guy (even if that guy is boyfriend extraordinaire, Dave Rygalski). It's even worse when we see that Lane is the only female character on the show to be treated this way. Rory rejects marriage for her career while Lane ends up with marriage as her storyline. Lorelai and Luke get back together but their relationship is still left open ended, though arguably it would've made more sense if they got married when Lane and Zach did. Paris gets into Harvard Medical school and gets a great relationship, similarly Sookie gets the family she wanted and continues to be amazing at her job. But Lane... god Lane is the only one without an open ending, without any space for speculation of where her life might lead her. Not only did they marry her off, they also gave her a terrible first time and twins, effectively locking her to Stars Hollow. The show even cut down all hope of her being a rock n roll mom as one of her S7 storylines is choosing the kids over going on tour with Zach. She doesn't get to be her own person for more than ONE season; she's stuck with being a daughter and then a wife and then a mother.

Something else that angers me about Lane's storyline is that we never really get to see how badly her relationship with her mom affects her. Don't get me wrong, I adore Mrs Kim's redemption arc and I think it was beautifully juxtaposed to Lorelai and Rory's crumbling relationship, but having a mother like that is hard. Not only did Lane have to hide 90% of her personality from Mrs Kim but she also lived with the fact that one day she might have to choose between her dreams and her mother. In the end, Mrs Kim makes that choice for her and deals with it by kicking Lane out in S4, and yet we never really see how that negatively affects Lane. Hell, Jess acts like a broody teen for two seasons, Rory wastes six months of her life away at the DAR and they both come out of it successfully. Lane gets kicked out, figures out her own living conditions, gets a job, works insanely hard for her band and... ends up having to give her dreams up completely.

Lane and Paris shared a lot of similarities too, even if they both had different friendships with Rory. They both came from terrible families and looked to Lorelai as a mother figure, they both cared deeply for Rory, and they were both incredibly passionate about their careers. Paris made calendars and flashcards and went crazy studying for both pre med and pre law. Lane was a walking, talking music encyclopaedia, she bought CDs obsessively and organised them by genre under her floorboards, she taught herself to play the drums and then found a band to play for. And yet... only Paris becomes successful in the end, whereas Lane takes over Kim's antiques. Lane was still a musician in AYITL and she can be rock n roll even with kids but this is all hypothetical and we never see it on the show.

There is a lot of terrible, lazy writing on the show and a lot of characters get ruined because of it but with Lane, her character stays the same, they just ruin everything else for her. I think she'll be an amazing mom and will probably make her best out of doing music casually. But the writers also took something so special and destroyed it just because Lane stopped being as important to the plot as she was in seasons 1-3. Lane and Rory drifting a little after Rory leaves for Yale makes perfect sense, that's just how relationships are, always changing. And yet as Lane's importance to Rory decreased so did her importance to the writers.

Lane wasn't the kind of character that needed character development or a redeeming character arc- she was never a bad person and nothing about her had to be fixed, unlike Jess or even Paris. All she really needed was for her dreams to come true because for the first 4 seasons her dreams were the biggest fixture of her personality. Like how Jess needed to overcome his trauma and Rory needed to figure out where she fit in and Paris needed to become a girlboss, Lane needed to realise her dreams because that's where her arc was leading her. But it just didn't happen. Instead, Lane becomes 2-dimensional; a large part of her screentime is taken up by Zach problems, her dreams fall flat and she becomes tied to Stars Hollow for the rest of her life. Not to mention we see less of Lane in favour of Logan and the dickhead posse.

This is not me hating on all the other characters I've mentioned in this meta, I'm just pointing out the lack of respect the writers have for Lane in comparison to all these other people who fulfilled the role they were made for. Why would you write Lane to have all these dreams and make her struggle so hard for 4 seasons just to smash them to pieces? And why is it that one of the only POC characters on this show is treated like this?

And you can't tell me the writers didn't know what they were doing, not when this is a direct quote from Lane in S7:

"It was such a small window -- a peephole, really. For years, I was this repressed kid, and then there was the briefest of windows. And then -- slam. All of a sudden, I'm this overburdened mother. I barely got to do it, Zach. I barely got the chance to be a person."