#gilmore girls opnions

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Farewell Ugly Betty

The second of my LiveJournal Archive, and the second and last dedicated to Ugly Betty. (I had to delate a link to a YouTube Playlist that no longer exists. From a cursory look through the archives, this is going to be a regular problem in reposting.) I had forgotten some plot lines I wrote about here, and I haven’t revisited the show, so I can’t revisit my opnions.

Originally Posted: Apr. 18th, 2010 at 4:35 PM

No point in denying it, I'm going to miss Ugly Betty. I don't feel at all sarcastic when I say it changed my life. Besides inspiring me to re-immerse myself in the Spanish language after retreating from all foreign language study for years (and thereby really influencing my taste in music) I really felt the show was there for me.

The quality of the show varied a lot. After the cancellation was announced many people tried to pin point where it went wrong, as if it could be revised and we are making a blueprint for future incarnation. But the truth is there was never a perfect point in the series from which the show eventually veered off track. Within the original there were several episodes that were to reliant on the formula set up in the pilot. The produces were aware of this, hence reshuffling the filler episode "SWAG" so it appears as a flashback in episode 11 instead of before episode 5 as it was obviously intended (Henry shows up for the first time in "SWAG", and becomes a love interest in "The Lyin', the Watch, and the Wardrobe".)

Ugly Betty belonged to a brand before it had an identity. In addition to being one version in what seems/ed like an endless copying or appropriating of a Colombian telenovela.  It probably is the one that makes the most radical changes from the story plot (Betty is not instantly smitten by her boss, no less socially adept ugly male friend, etc.) In the USA it also inspired a lot of comparisons to The Devil Wears Prada, Sex and the City and (in my head at least) The Gilmore Girls. People commented on how it pre-empted the TV version of Prada and came off as a sweet/wholesome version of Sex (I was just looking for something to replace Gilmore in its decline. When "Miss Patty" showed up as Wilhemina's housekeeper I flipped). It also got heralded as cross over of telenovela's to North American Mainstream. With all of those quickly made comparisons how does anything find it's own identity?

It's a struggle. If the first few episodes suffered from repetitive plotting, the inevitable move towards more ongoing plots instantly created new plot difficulties. The first questionable decision that the writers made was to have the mysterious woman communicating with Wilhemina turn out to be Daniel's supposedly deceased brother (who had really transitioned and came out a woman). We were led to believe she was the former editor in chief Fey Summers, and the change in direction was jarring. In some ways this felt like behind the scenes everyone thought, "the viewers expect us to zig, so we should zag". I wanted to believe that they could pull this twist off and seem like they were in some Pedro Almodovár film. It did not work that way. (There is probably a reason Almodovár never dabbled in television or set anything in the Sates with a mostly American cast). They did not. Rebecca Romijn was wasted for the better part of two years in an under-developed role.

Alex-reborn-as-Alexis was not the worst of the offensively misdirected plots. In season one there was Betty's father Ignacio's psycho case worker "helping" him become a US citizen while breaking with reality, not to mention the whole Ignacio killing his late wife's first husband backstory which really had no where to go. Season two brought about TWO pregnancy plots purely for purpose of manipulation, and a love triangle that dominated the season and dragged. There are more awful plot points I could delve into, but I would rather focus on the things I love about the show.

While there were some terrible plotting moments, here the show was able to keep some wonderful scenes. It was always colorful, often witty, and most of the time you felt for the characters. Plot points involving paintball wars, Wilhemina and Bradford's non wedding, Claire's escape from prison with an inmate named Yoga, were all groan worthy, but had funny moments and seemed to move on quickly enough.

Season three seems to be where a lot of the audience left. Opinions on it are pretty divisive. They writers toned back a lot of the more farfetched plots from the second season. They cut the two male characters who were vying for Betty's affection, which some viewers saw as a betrayal of the plots on which they invested so much time. Some of the attempts at more real world stories were uncomfortably current. Meade Publications was hit by the same financial crisis as most of the print media with no end in sight. The new CFO robbed all of Meade publications assists reducing Daniel and Wilhemina to beg for a government bail out. When that failed they had to find a Warren Buffet like billionaire to invest in them. Betty got accepted into a prestigious school training people to be magazine editors. It was supposed to be a sure fire way to launch her career, except the story never forgot that print publications are failing all around us. During this period Betty's father had a heart attack and Daniel met, fell in love and married a woman with terminal cancer. (I loved the Daniel and Molly romance- the fact that they made her terminally ill seemed like a cop out). It was not escapism, and might be more than some wanted to engage with.

The show was really toeing the line with what it was: soap opera? soap opera parody? real world based drama through soap opera lenses? The last seems most accurate but hardest to describe. It is even harder to play out. In some ways it only really got it's footing in this quasi genre late season three through season four. But by that point the show lost enough of its audience that it was more of a cult favorite than a national phenomenon the network hoped for (and seemed to get) early in the series. The show got the opportunity to wrap up the plots for the most part. (My favorite of Betty's boyfriends, Matt, was the only one of her serious boyfriends not to return to wrap up the storyline. It was disappointing, but understandable. He would have to become involved with Tyler, his and Daniel's recently appeared half brother, and they really did not have the time to bring in the drama of the other side of Tyler's biological family.) Everyone was given a happy ending, though some were rushed. (Marc falling in love with Troy was ultimately sweet, but did not feel earned). Betty was no longer defined as being "Ugly" and Daniel was free to pursue and discover what work would be a real passion in him (and possibly pursue Betty in a way that really might have satisfied everyone who wanted to see them together and those who did not).

Ultimately the show was about finding out how you make your identity. It was as much of a struggle behind the scenes as it was for the character. In some ways I have never seen a show that was so honest about it. I will always be glad to have seen it.

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Ship #2

@wordstothewisereaders :  Hi! Congrats on the milestone! Can I have a ship for the celebration please? My name is Haley. I'm a straight girl with blonde hair and grey eyes. I'm 5'10. I'm pretty introverted. Superhero movies are my favorite. I binge Netflix a lot, mostly Gilmore Girls, The Office, TWD and rewatches of SPN. I'm top of my class intelligence wise and hate being put in the spotlight. I write some and always love a good sci-fi/fantasy/romance book. I'm also a pretty big space geek and Kaleo/classic rock fan.

I prove 100% of your tastes and I know someone else who does too ;)

Sam

He swears it’s like he made you in a computer.

You loved everything he did, yet had different opinions. He loved how you could spend hours debating on things like who is right in the movie you just watched, how you could suggest the best books and yet how you could see and understand his point of view. 

His favorite moment with you was a cold November night, sitting in a motel room with no A/C to warm you up, discusing whether Harry Potter truly belonged in the Slytherin or Gryffindor house. He had pulled you close, passing an old whiskey bottle from one to the other every once in a while until it was a little more than half way empty. That’s the day he realized he loved you. You would state your opnion and let him speak. See his point of view. Understand him and listen to what he has to say, unlike everyone in his life.

You fell asleep on him that night. You were so adorable, blonde hair falling perfectly down your shoulders, your head resting on his shoulder, your scent clouding his mind. He fell asleep thinking how incredible you are and how he’d kiss you the following morning. 

[saebaragi]

lorelai and chris are to me like blair and dan, great friendship, super fun dynamics, but romance makes no sense between them

[saebaragi]

best couple in gilmore girls is kirk and lulu actually

[saebaragi]

i love ep18 of season 5!!!! but also, i just realized something

idk if you guys know about that, but there's a pretty famous manipulation technique that consists in playing with the other person's mind, and apparently it makes them obssessed; so the manipulator will give the victim attention, lots of it, making they feel loved and appreciated, then they just stop. they disappear, ghost them, really, just stops giving attention and love. and then do it again, with no actual explaining on the disappearing, goes back on showering the victim with love and affection. then suddenly stops again. and that's it. do it again and again. so, the psychological explaining on why that works is because people naturally likes attention and affection, obviously, and this behavior confuses them, it makes they miss the other person and the feelings they bring, and that's why they get obssessed.

do I need to finish my thought process...?

[saebaragi]

my opinion about jess is actually pretty similar to my opinion about chris, i really don't hate the characters, i mean it, however i don't like them as romantic interests so it looks like i hate them because this fandom discussion is mainly focused on romance

[saebaragi]

i commented on a yt video about gilmore girls and for some reason the creator pinned my comment so now i'm struggling to fight the urge to argue with every single response i get under that comment😭😭😭

[saebaragi]

"rory should've ended up with jess" "rory should've ended up with logan" c'mon, we all know she should've ended up with paris

[saebaragi]

smth about the gilmore girls fandom is that people get pissed when you talk shit about jess, someone once argued with me on fricking pinterest cuz i agreed with a post saying "i dont understand why people like jess so much", and people will write a whole essay about his family trauma and how his character arc worked, and dont u dare talk negativily about how u feel about that; but rory??? no one cares about her family trauma or how her character arc worked, she doesnt deserve defenders or any kinds of empathy

[saebaragi]

listen, i'm a paris x rory enthusiastic but i can't ignore the tension between paris and janet, they start arguing and i'm like "kiss! kiss! kiss!"

[saebaragi]

just saw someone saying mitchum was right lmao???? you guys are just mean, maybe he did had the right opnion but he couldnt say like he did, it wasn't constructive criticism, it just destroyed the girl's dreams. constructive criticism would be if he told her what was wrong or suggested another career, talking about the inclinations he realized she had, which would work more for her than journalism; but no, he just said she didn't have "it", she was confused because he didn't explain, imagine you spend your entire life with only one thing in mind to do in your life and suddenly a professional in the field, that you respect even, just tell you that you're dont have "it"

[saebaragi]

i still get to hate jess even if i understand him, fuck him

[saebaragi]

where's that pinterest whisper about rory mistreating lane? i'm very unhappy and i feel like arguing about something i can actually talk about without feeling stupid