#the siege of terra

[haaaaaaaaaaaave-you-met-ted]

Siege of Terra Vol 2 - The Lost and the Damned - Mortarion by Mauro Belfiore

[djemsostylist]

shoutout to the fact that Dan Abnett, who once wrote a book that made me cry over superheavy tanks of all fucking things actually wrote the death of my most beloved child and the subsequent descent into madness of his most beloved children and i felt NOTHING and that is REMARKABLE dan what the fuck happened to you are you okay what was that fucking abomination of a book

[assassinsith]

Felt like being emo before bed and decided to listen to Malcador's monologue from The End and the Death Part 3. Hurts a lot.

[ahauntingwewillgo]

GARVIEL "IF YOURE NOT GONNA SAVE MY WIFE THEN I WILL" LOKEN

[skunts-own-truth]

God damn, the End and the Death is better than I could ever have imagined. Dan Abnett really did put his entire Danussy into this one.

[bonesingerofyme-loc]

Scorch the earth like phosphex, son

In light of The End and the Death Part I being right around the corner and Garro: Knight of Grey having just released, here’s a repost of some thoughts on how moronic deluded irrational incapable of reading some Chaos fans are, here at the end.

There is a significant amount of what appears to be refusal among Chaos/traitor fans in accepting what Chaos is, even though it's been evident since pretty much forever.

The Horus Heresy, since it was just a couple paragraphs, was pretty clearly about how the traitors were duped, used, and dumped by the chaos gods all in the name of fucking up the Emperor and ruining the Imperium. Horus was abandoned by the Four at the last critical moment because it didn't matter anymore. They'd won the game. The Emperor would be a ruined husk, the Imperium would wither on the vine and turn into a bloated, monstrous husk that would feed them anyway.

The entire Heresy has been a manipulation by gods of hell. Nothing about this is debatable or even subtext. From the start, it was the Four wanting to fuck up the Emperor and everyone were tools.

It's a riot when the meme 'traitors losing, per usual' comes up in every Heresy and Siege of Terra novel. What the fuck is a win for the traitors? They're sworn to Chaos. They are being puppeteered by daemons. This isn't a clash of ideologies, this isn't a civil war, this is an extinction event for an entire species orchestrated by Great Old Ones from beyond the veil. This isn't fucking Grant vs Lee. Any win is a loss by definition - the end goal of chaos is to obliterate the materium and devour everyone.

There are no ideals to traitors. Lotara Sarrin, queen that she is, said it best in this book: she followed Horus because she wanted to. All of them dress up their reasoning in flimsy justifications, but it all boils down to, basically, fear and petulance. Fear of death or ignominy, or petulance at not getting what they want.

The traitors wanted to tear down the Imperium over a complete and utter lie, perpetuated by everyone, and hey, they fucking succeeded. The Imperium is dead and its corpse will live for 10,000 years. Horus said let the galaxy burn, and burn it did. They wanted to destroy the Emperor's dream and they did. They wanted to kill Terra and they did. They wanted to break the Legions and they did. They wanted to strangle the Imperium's concept of enlightenment and they did. The traitors achieved all of their goals, save one, which was conquering the galaxy itself, which wouldn't have lasted anyway because they all fucking hated each other and it would've fallen into internecine war immediately. The Cabal were really stupid, but that they got right.

It's a riot when 'traitors losing, per usual' comes up when the Heresy has been 58 books of the traitors running absolutely amok over the loyalists, massacring named characters left and right while getting off scot-free because of the imbalance of named characters in 40k. They spent 58 books tearing down the Imperium with barely any rebuke, and then have spent 7 novels murdering Terra and inexorably crushing every last point of resistance before them.

But because your favorite Chaos Champion didn't get do a sick ollie and blow up the Palace all by themselves, they keep losing, per usual.

I guess people just want bolter porn? Maybe that's what I'm missing? I don't know. I don't get it.

In the end, it's amusing when 'traitors losing, per usual', has been the expected canonical outcome in a pragmatic sense since Warhammer was Rogue Trader. Kind of the whole reason 40k exists is because the traitors ultimately did lose the material side of the conflict. Horus dies. The daemon primarchs are banished. The Scouring drives them all into the Eye.

But remember - even if the loyalists manage to eke out a brutal, pyrrhic, slogging victory, it's a stupid, nonsensical, totally lopsided loss for the traitors. I mean, Magnus only killed Vulkan hundreds of times and then shredded him into a semi-lucid skeletal thing with questionable cognition while Vulkan managed to banish Magnus for a period of time but hey, Magnus went down like an absolute chump. Sanguinius only was beaten to shit and back, skewered, strangled, and left barely able to stand while he banished Angron back to the warp for a time, but you know - total chump.

It's funny because by definition, the traitor primarchs can't lose. They are immortal. They last forever. They've had endless victories through the Heresy, driven by fate because their future is already written. But when Jaghatai sacrifices himself for a momentary victory over Mortarion, at the cost of his life and the loyalists losing a massive asset - Mortarion went out like a chump.

It's a funny kind of perspective, because it reminds me of the in-universe mentality of these characters, always complaining they didn't get enough attention and love, all while being actual immortal demigod superhumans with infinite power at their fingertips. Or like chaos fans, complaining they don't win all the time even though the whole series is about them winning nonstop for seven in-universe years until an 11th hour, barely worth it, catastrophic conclusion that is essentially a chaos win, anyway.

[ladymirdan]

“Uhm the traitors failing at the siege of Terra is dumb. These are supposed to be the smartest guys in the galaxy and they have superpowers. But everyone got distracted/vindicted/had a dumb moment”

It's such a weird take for me. Have these guys never had to do a group project with really smart people? Especially really smart but slightly(very) narcissistic people?

Siege of Terra went very much as expected. Easirly the most belivable moment in 40k.

[stargazing-sapphire2]

Sanguinius: Full time Primarch, part time Sass Master

[soraka-in-warhammer40k]

"The Siege of Terra? Ah, that's nothing complicated. It's just one planet, compared to the whole Heresy leading up to it, that's nothing! Just read the books one after another, it's mostly linear. Two factions mashing into each other, no third party interference, on one planet in one system. How bad could that even get?"

Meanwhile the "Siege of Terra" Lexicanum page:

I can't wait to get to this in about 30 volumes or so because holy does this look like an absolute chaotic trainwreck - and that is just the Commanders!

[dateless-bar]

'Remember the start of my story?'

Horus Rising - The End and the Death: Volume II

Until we meet again

Screenshot from video: [Sanguinius] Tears and Saints

[haaaaaaaaaaaave-you-met-ted]

Sanguinius and the Siege of Terra by Vitaly Perevoshikov

[djemsostylist]

Or like, what about Rogal Dorn huh? This man spent his entire life, his entire fucking life dedicated to this cause, he gave up everything to serve the Emperor because he believed, he believed in Him and he spent 7 years in agony destroying everything beautiful he had built to create something monstrous to make it survive, who cried when he said goodbye to the brother he loved and who had made it through hell to come and fight at his side and then literally spent an eternity in the wilderness alone holding on to the one thought that he would not give in, even when he didn't even know his own name and then he just walks into the room where his father is almost dead and his beloved brother IS dead and just like, pretty shrugs and is like, welp, pops his other brother's dead head in a grocery bag and keeps on keeping on WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK DAN. WHAT. THE. FUCK.

[doolallymagpie]

back at it with the possibly-contrarian Lotara Sarrin takes:

were it not for the fact that she's gotta push World Eaters around all day, the woman would be channeling some serious Morticia Addams vibes

[firstchaplainerebus]

four days for the end and the death part 3. Predictions:

It was all an indigestion dream that Leman Russ had

Loken hits the emperor over the head by accident and puts him in a coma instead of horus

we see malcador’s stamp collection. This has nothing to do with the plot

Oll and John come together and create a super mecha for the emperor to pilot

Basilio Fo finally activates his doomsday device, only for everyone to find out it’s just a normal smoothie machine. He was thirsty.

Erebus smokes a huge blunt. Look at him.

Rogal Dorn smokes an even bigger blunt but he acts like he doesn’t like it. Real bitch about it. Coughs a lot and talks about his teeth missing.

It is revealed that Horus Lupercal is long dead and a cardboard cutout has been placed on the bridge of the vengeful spirit in order to hide the true warmaster from sight. Who is that you may ask? Why, you fool. It’s Peeter Egon Momus.

Guilliman shows up and he got everyone’s DoorDash order wrong. 😑 again.

[skunts-own-truth]

Aw shit, this is about to a great morning! Gonna guzzle me some Garro, straight from the magnificent James Swallow.