#the patriarchy also hurts men
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It so odd that the same people making a fuss about “male loneliness” are the same people who defend the patriarchy which makes it so that men can’t express love to each other without people calling it romantic
Huh so weird
#it’s almost like you don’t care you just hate women#down with the patriarchy#feminism#the patriarchy also hurts men#queer#transgender#fuck the patriarchy
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"Maybe white men wouldn't have overwhelmingly voted for Trump if it wasn't for feminists telling them they're bad all the time!!1!!" Weird how everything men do ends up being women's fault somehow
#men sold women's rights to our own bodies for cheaper gas prices. i could not give less of a shit about their takes on feminism#that one post going around about how misogyny has increased tremendously over the past few years#with all the replies like 'well women tell cishet white men that patriarchy and racism are bad and that hurts their feelings--#--so its understandable they become violently misogynistic and the solution is for you to be nicer to men!!!'#ohhhh my god quit your entitlement for one fucking second. trumps laws are killing women in droves#us politics#(also i feel the need to add that i am fully supportive of lgbt+ and gender non conforming individuals)
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"not all men" but not in a men's rights way, in a "it's important to remember that men aren't the only perpetrators of cruelty, abuse, and evil and that subconsciously or consciously training yourself to view men as inherently evil and everyone else as inherently safe inadvertently puts you in a position where you're both vulnerable to attack or harm from people you otherwise wouldn't suspect, AND causes you to limit the number of allies you might have in a time of need" kind of way.
#This is why I worry a lot about young women (teens and twenties) who seek comfort and validation in r//adf//em circles. Many of them have#been hurt through rape or abuse—commonly at the hands of fathers/brothers/uncles or otherwise trusted adults—and have decided that men must#be cruel because both they and their female/female + queer friends have similar stories of abuse. So they seek out others who share this#belief but in doing so they make themselves vulnerable to further abuse and manipulation. I haven't really observed r//adf//em circles long#enough to be able to say what I'm about to say with certainty but I would put money on the idea that being a RF on social media shares the#same hallmarks as being in a cult because the behavior of the adherents is far too similar than that of tradwives or any other modern cult.#Other RF's use the hurt and abuse these young women have experienced and twist and manipulate their truth to foster a sense of#us-against-them cruelty against a population that could in actuality be their fiercest allies. It's such a vicious and relentless cycle.#That's why when I see RF's on here all I feel is pity — both for the cruelty and abuse they've witnessed and suffered but ALSO for the way#they've allowed that abuse to be weaponized against them... many before they were too young to realize it was even happening. We as a#society have got to get better at protecting our young girls and women from r//adf//em ideology. I don't even mean that in a#“destroy the patriarchy” kind of way because that's such a lofty and disorganized goal. I mean it in a “we have to go into uncomfortable#spaces and show these girls love and empathy because right now the only people validating them are people who use their hate and mistrust#against them and if we want to save our young girls and Queer sisters from this pipeline we have to do the dirty work“ kind of way.#But anyway.#jack.txt
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if i lived somewhere where i could actually study women’s studies without the curriculum being the most watered-down man-friendly capitalism-friendly christianity-friendly slop imaginable i would maybe be doing that instead of environmental science but then i just knoooow i’d have to get a job for some corporation who wants me there to make them seem woke like i’m studying environmental science because it’s a lifelong passion but also bc there aren’t a lot of jobs that don’t make you be a corporate shill and that seems like my best choice
#it’s also all ‘gender and queer studies’ now and i don’t rlly care about that#if i have to hear ONE MORE TIME that patriarchy hurts men too in an ACADEMIC SETTING i swear to god#like school is supposed to be about learning stuff that’s accurate and correct 😭 bye
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unnecessarily long wall of text tag essay aside, “we all need to be nicer to men so they don’t radicalise and try to kill us” is really not a take i’m in the mood for hearing right now.
#sorry i've just seen that post on my dash like half a dozen times since yesterday and quietly rolled my eyes at it every single time.#in case it needs to be said: i don't hate men!#i'm not about to tell other marginalised people how to live their lives but in general i don't think it's healthy or constructive#to express hatred for an entire class of people like that. even just as venting.#HOWEVER.#i also don't see why it's my job to make men in particular feel any more welcome or uplifted or loved or valued than anyone else.#i'm not gonna tiptoe my way around discussions of misogyny and go out of my way to make it clear that Not All Men#just to ensure that some dude who's apparently not capable of critical thinking doesn't get his feelings hurt.#if he's gonna turn into a nazi just because i wasn't extra specially niceys to him#then it kinda sounds like he was just looking for an excuse to become a nazi!#do you think blackpilled incels go on shooting sprees because the left didn't make them feel sufficiently welcome?#or do you think it's just perhaps because the patriarchy made them feel like they were entitled to something they actually aren't#and encouraged them to respond in violent ways when they were denied.#c'mon now everyone.#anyway would you look at that. another wall of text.
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Something that I'd love to see addressed on 9-1-1 is how Buck and Eddie constantly getting inappropriate comments about how hot they are and getting leered at and even propositioned by women while on the job is harassment but nobody takes it seriously because they're men.
But that's never going to happen because when it's women getting propositioned on the job by men it's harassment but when it's men getting propositioned on the job by women it's comedy.
#9-1-1#911 abc#evan buckley#eddie diaz#this is your daily reminder that the patriarchy hurts everyone and men also need feminism
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i cannot believe this has to be said. men are not the primary victims of a system that oppresses women in order to advance the social power of men.
#my post#feminism#YES patriarchy hurts EVERYONE to some extent#but if it sucked equally for everyone it would not have stuck around this long. you know why its still here?#because it grants men an ENORMOUS ADVANTAGE over women and has done so for literally thousands of years#yes some men are oppressed by other systems. this does not negate their status as men. come on guys this is basic intersectional theory#men of color and queer men of all stripes are STILL CAPABLE of misogyny#just like white women are still capable of racism#jfc#ALSO: trans women are women and trans men are men.
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people really love to conveniently forget trans men exist when they talk about feminism. or if they dont they make us out as also part of the problem as if we somehow are able to have the same amount of privilege as cis men. absolutely wild
#“not all men” is a valid statement because its fucking true#like guys. seriously. not every single man is evil#feminism isnt about putting men down its about raising women up to be equal and getting rid of gender inequality#sorry im seeing a massive uptick in people hating on trans men for being men lately and its fucking stupid#like yall are doing a great job at making me feel ashamed to be a man who likes men. awesome thanks guys#i dont normally make posts like this but its been rattling around in my mind for a few days now#its always put out like. all men (trans or not) are Inherently Evil and all women (trans or not) are Inherently Victims#which is absolutely the stupidest shit ive ever seen#and they also leave out anyone who doesnt fit into the man/woman dichotomy. and if they dont its always seen as woman lite#which is also stupid as fuck#not every nb/agender/other person is feminine asshole#anways. case in point. can we stop demonizing masculinity while also discussing the effects of misogyny and the patriarchy please.#because both of those things are very real and very much do hurt people#but im sick of people lashing out at trans men as if the problem magically doesn't affect us anymore because we are men#because guess what! newsflash! it affects trans AND cis men too!!#i shouldnt have to explain it should be obvious but like. im tired man#sorry ill forever be annoyed at women who just hate every single man who dares breathe in their direction because they COULD be an asshole#if you hate someone because of their gender no matter what gender it is i Do Not Trust You#anyways thanks for coming to my ted talk. replies are off cause i dont want to argue with people i just want to express my opinion
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you are men and men are part of the oppressor class, thereby benefiting from privilege regardless of whether or not you want to or acknowledge it
#unless you wanna argue that somehow despite being trans MEN you aren’t by definition part of the group patriarchy is NAMED after#transandrodorks#also saying theyfab is a slur. i have to laugh#theyfab can be a slur when it’s used in conjunction with violence against you. until then it’s just a word that hurts your feelings#there’s a lot abt this post that sucks (and this isn’t even the whole post) but rn i’m thinking about just that last bit
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I love reading Barbie critiques because I thought I was the insane one coming out of that film. The way people built it up to be the pinnacle of feminist commentary - so revolutionary, so hard-hitting, so emotional....and I went in expecting a real mainstream feminist movie only to get...that.
#barbie 2023#barbie critical#me my mine#It felt like an intro course to feminism for people who've never heard of the concept#I wish I liked it more but it was so disappointing to what people said I should expect#I think I'm also annoyed at how feminism is often so watered down in order to be palatable for men#“See?! Patriarchy hurts EVERYONE!! MEN TOO!! Not just WOMEN!!”#okay back to the steve posting
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the thing is i agree that well-meaning cis men are trying to include and validate trans men by bringing them into these heterosexual, misogynistic rituals. some of them may be doing it to further differentiate trans men from women, but i honestly don't think they put that much thought into it. i think, for many cishet men, This Is How You Be Men. this is what they were taught a man was from a young age, and much like their fathers and other men in their life, they're taking in trans men and Showing Them How To Be Men in the same way they were.
i cannot tell you how many cis men (most, but not all, het) I've befriended that have later confided in me that the way i view gender and the way i embody my maleness gave them pause to examine their own relationship to masculinity and maleness. for a few, this led to them realizing they're trans, but for the vast, vast majority, they are cis men who are now less misogynistic, less toxicly masculine, and more comfortable in the way they embody their gender. patriarchy benefits from cishet men not doing this work. i really think this comes from cishet men having never critically examined their relationship to their own gender until they meet trans people.
#ren speaks#also 'women are the primary group oppressed under patriarchy' and 'men are also hurt by patriarchy' are concepts that can coexist#and have for ages#i feel like i say this every few weeks but there's a thousand ways to be wrong under patriarchy and only one way to be right
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I hate how men seem to expect women to solve men's issues. There's a 'male loneliness epidemic'? Ok, but why it that women's problem to solve? Why isn't the focus on encouraging community, emotional openness, mental health awareness and vulnerability between men instead of expecting a woman to fuck their problems away or act as a therapist?
#girlblogging#men's mental health#the patriarchy hurts everyone#the patriarchy is bad for men too#also men on this site need to stop messaging me for pics then telling me how sad and lonely they are when i say no. go see a damn therapist#your girlfriend/wife/female friend/random woman on the internet isn't your therapist
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I stumbled upon the post of you talking about how you're trying to raise a son that won't hate himself for being male. From a young man to the mother of a young man, thank you. Honestly thank you so much. That will mean so so much for your kiddo, both now and for the rest of his life. I hope your mother's day is a joyous one :)
oh anon, many many hugs. and thank you. I hope you don't hate yourself either, you seem like a really kind and caring person. <3
#unforth replies#seriously guys stop saying horrible things about men#the harm it causes it incalculable#my grandmother hated men and while she died before i was born#i've seen the lifetime of baggage and harm her attitudes left my mother and uncle with#especially my uncle#you can't say i hate men but oh no not you you're different#hate the patriarchy and the systems and toxic masculinity#hate the societal norms that lead men into emotional black holes from where they then harm others#but don't hate men this isn't inherent to being male#it's inherent in our broken system that's told an entire gender they're not allowed to cry and shit#ugh i hate it here men are great okay#tbh i can't think of anything more anti-feminist than blanket hating men#i'm just rambling at this point but y'all get the idea#also to be clear my definition of men is anyone who ids as male and therefore takes collatoral damage#when they hear someone say men are the worst or whatever#this has nothing to do with genitalia and everything to do with people who are men#stop hurting men 2k5eva
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We still live in a patriarchy. Do you think “reverse racism” is a genuine problem too?
Genuinely can't tell if you mean "we still live in a patriarchy" sarcastically or not. Mostly because I don't think I've ever said anything to imply we don't, so I'm not sure what you're trying to argue with me about.
Are you mad that I block folks with "men DNI" in their bio? There's an argument to be made that I'm being respectful of their wishes, Anon. I'm genderqueer, which might mean I'm just man enough to make them uncomfortable, username aside. So really, such folks wouldn't want to interact with me any more than I would want to interact with them.
#terfs fuck off#also: MEN ARE HURT BY THE PATRIARCHY TOO#real feminism is for everyone#not just AFAB women
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Yes, the patriarchy hurts men too, but why do we have to convince men that the liberation of women will benefit them in order for them to care about it. I'm not going to sit around waiting for men to be incentivized to care about us as human beings.
#also 'the patriarchy hurts men too' is a false equivalence#bc while yes it does hurt them in some ways they are not the targets of it (and in fact they are the ones benefitting from it)#and quite honestly it's usually brought up to derail discussions of misogyny#talking#misogyny#feminism#intersectional feminism
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thinking of that transles separatist girlie who said every attractive trait in men is eroticized misogyny
#and she was right abt it too!#lmao i tried to look up her tweet and first thing that came up was mackinnon 😭 figures#shes a little... Too mackinnonist / wittigian but i appreciate her boldness. this is a feminist quality#feminism#like do u ever just Think abt that like...#literally. standards for guys. tall big muscular -- usually moreso than you#All... eroticized misogyny..#and i mean. obviously me too i mean look at my bio. miguel o'hara stan#its just crazy gurl#patriarchy bes like hijacks ur sexuality#like .. its so crazy when u think about if u met one of ur fictional squishable guys irl#keiji would be / Is an insufferable misogynist pig [as in. yknow. 🚨] & miguel is just a prick#very cis male coded in the specific ways theyre written#gender minorites tend to internalize hurt esp women. whereas usually cis men externalize it#and not just verbally but also physically#ie keiji killing megumi and miguel FUCKIN DRIBBLING MILES LIKE A BASKETBALL#but if u make them butches then its like. patriarchy solved<33#this is why loving butches is feminism /lh except its also tru#cis maleness is soo reeeee#no like#no like ..#there slike this fashion influencer who named her cat simone pawvoir#i need to go back to sleep
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