#the overthrow trilogy

[foxqlove-draws]

ESTA TIME ESTA TIME FUCK YEAH WORST BIRD

SPOILERS FOR THRIVE

[toxictoad]

Luke is such a funny character because he perfectly encapsulates the reality of growing up in a small town and when you finally get to leave it's a complete shitshow but you're still having the time of your fucking LIFE

[the-nameless-wacky-inventor]

You KNOW things are getting bad when suddenly the political state of the British government portrayed in Ptolemy’s Gate is becoming relatable to real life.

[cl0-ud1]

ALRIGHT i see a bunch of kenneth oppel stuff on here but no one talks about the overthrown trilogy.

I (personally) HATE ESTA. i’m sorry but i just do not like her, i have a hate club (with just me) dedicated to esta, i hate that stupid fucking bird lady.

i see seth and petra as very close friends and esta ruins their dynamic because SOMEONE DECIDES TO FUCKING RUN AWAY WITH A GIRL THEY JUST MET *cough cough* SETH *cough cough*

also, personally, darren was cool. aside from what happened, he was cool…

[superlintball]

One of my absolute favorite things about the Mistborn series (era 1, specifically) is the bait-and-switch of the overarching plot.

Like, you go into it and you're like, "Yeah, okay. I'm reading one of the Big Fantasy Trilogies of the modern era. Hell yeah. What's this all about?"

And so you read. You get introduced to the characters, the magic system, and, most importantly, the central conflict: it's an assassination plot.

Clearly, the whole trilogy is going to be about finding a way to kill the god-emperor of the cruel and oppressive regime, and the final book will have them overthrow him and everything will Be Good.

"Of course that's what will happen," you think to yourself. "That's a pretty standard narrative structure."

So you keep reading.

But as you read the book, something doesn't feel right. The pacing seems... Off. Isn't this book moving too quickly?

And then, as you get around the second act of the book, it hits you all at once.

"Are they... Are they gonna successfully assassinate the Lord Ruler?? IN THE FIRST BOOK??"

It sure looks like it.

SO WHAT THE HELL ARE THE OTHER TWO BOOKS GONNA BE ABOUT.

[warrioreowynofrohan]

Me, reading “On Faerie-Stories”: Star Wars is a faerie-story.

Of course, it’s been called ‘science fantasy’ or ‘space opera’, but that doesn’t entirely get at the same thing. Tolkien may be the source of the popularizing of the fantasy genre as we know it today, but much of fantasy is arguably not faerie-stories. (Which is not to say that they are bad! Only that they are doing something different than a faerie-story as Tolkien describes it.)

But Star Wars (the original trilogy) is. It feeds the imagination, the desire for the strange and wonderful and terrible. It gives us not only shining swords and magic, but strange worlds, cities in the clouds, and ogres in forms like Jabba the Hutt. It is concerned with Good and Evil, with the overthrow of a usurping tyrant and the return of the rightful form of government.

And it has eucatastrophe in in the same way that Tolkien does. The key moment on which Return of the Jedi and the entire trilogy turns is the renunciation of power, the moment when Luke throws away his lightsaber and refuses the temptations of power that are offered by evil. And then it takes us up to the very edge, the expectation that this renunciation will lead to nothing but a horrible, torturous death – and it says no. It says that clinging to Good against all hope can give it the power to reach into the very heart of Evil and draw out goodness from it, and in that moral power rather than physical power lies victory. It is not inevitable and it does not always happen – in the words of Tolkien “eucatastrophe does not deny the existence of dyscatastrophe, of sorrow and failure: the possibility of these is necessary to the joy of deliverance” – but it can happen and the heart of Star Wars is that it does.

[medievalandfantasymelee]

THE HOT MEDIEVAL & FANTASY MEN MELEE

FIRST ROUND: 37th Tilt

Ahmad, Marco Polo (2014-2016) VS. Aragorn Elessar, The Lord of the Rings Trilogy (2001-2003)

Propaganda

Ahmad, Marco Polo (2014-2016) Portrayed by: Mahesh Jadu Defeated Opponents: - Glenstorm [Cornell John], The Chronicles of Narnia: Prince Caspian (2008)

“1) Nails, hair, hips, heels, treason, fat, beard real, purse full, big bills, BITCH! He’s a BIG deal!! 2) Get yourself a man who is an evil vizier AND gets pegged. 3) Ahmad your hair is too luscious. Your plots to overthrow the khan are too farfetched. Ahmad the murder mural in your office is too detailed. Ahmad they’ll kill you!”

Aragorn Elessar, The Lord of the Rings Trilogy (2001-2003) Portrayed by: Viggo Mortensen Defeated Opponents: - Isildur, Son of Elendil [Maxim Baldry], The Rings of Power (2022-)

“I don't even know where to start with Aragorn because everything about him just makes him so ridiculously hot. He's brooding and mysterious, but he has a great smile, he's an incredible fighter but also recites Elvish like the most beautiful love poetry, he looks great all grimy but also very fine when he's all cleaned up, his voice is sexy when he's whispering gently to those he loves and when he's barking out an impassioned speech on the battle field. He's brave, loyal, humble, selfless, intelligent, compassionate. And then just look at his face and his hair and his hands. All so hot.”

Additional Propaganda Under the Cut

Additional Propaganda

For Ahmad:

For Aragorn:

“Does this guy really need propaganda? Is it not enough that he led an entire generation into having unrealistic hopes in their choice of partners? Does he not just drip hotness out of every pore of his being? Well. Let’s sum it up: - mysterious ranger with cool hood - loves his wife - wears cool jewelry - sharp humor - hair - cool sword - opens doors like no one - can and will sing - horse girl at heart - king - do I need to continue?”

“He looks great scruffy, he looks great cleaned up. He's kind and smart and caring and also really good at fighting. He's everything.”

[other-peoples-coats]

struck by the idea where, For Reasons, plan saddest desert hermit doesn't get off the ground and team proto-rebellion have to pivot and pivot fast.

chucking the conspiracy equivalent of a uey at 100mph on the highway, and everyone involved is sleep deprived, stressed as fuck, and experiencing y'know, several levels of Devastating Grief.

the person with the brain cell is bail organa, a man who in canon spends like 20 fucking years playing ding dong ditch with a genocidal psychic space wizard and his boss, an even more genocidal space wizard. This man is not lacking in gumption, one can say. he is possessed of life threatening amounts of chutzpah, one might also say, except that he spends twenty years winning the ding dong ditch match with, again, a genocidal fascist dictatorship which includes two genocidal psychic space wizards who literally know he was in tight with the genocided group of space wizards plus the [mumble] number of other murderous genocidal space wizards, plus the rest of the non-space wizard space fascist cohort.

So. What does a man with a spine of steel, a heart as big as a planet, and more gumption than anyone should possess do, when plan 'split up the kids and hide the most famous man in the galaxy on the saddest hell planet' is a no go?

lie. lie like a fucking rug.

What's palpatine going to do? day one of the empire, his super awesome chosen one space wizard makeover project is still in progress and not yet wheezing his way into the galaxy's nightmares, and bail fucking organa strolls into the imperial senate with:

one (1) baby (female)

one (1) baby (male)

several (~20+) aides and various hangers on, including;

one (1) brown haired blue eyed man who could, if you squinted a bit, probably get third place in a general kenobi lookalike competition, were those now not super duper illegal

Sidious, of course, could be like A JEDI KILL HIM TRAITOR ETC, but, crucially, his wheezing attack dog is still on the lab table getting seven inches added to his height and cup holders installed, or whatever the fuck skeevy sheev added in as extras. Palpatine is an old guy who is still trading on being A Beloved Grandfather who was Reluctant To Take The Throne, and is still easing the galaxy into the whole, y'know, we're a fascist empire now, kneel or perish.

Palpatine, on day one of the empire, can't point at bail fucking organa and be like HABOURING A TRAITOR unless he is really, really sure, like 110% sure, because it's bail fucking organa and every goddamn senator will baulk like a horse at a plastic bag if he accuses, again, the senator of alderaan of high treason on day one of the empire.

A secret rebellion is fine, if not ideal; you can theoretically stamp it out, and, also, it's small, percentage wise.

The entire fucking galaxy thinking that, hey, if the guy in charge is going to go after fucking alderaan, what's to stop him going after us? bigger problem. huge problem. original trilogy kinda touched on that one. Day one of the empire, everyone is still basically on war footing, and fuck man, if alderaan is copping it....maybe this empire isn't great after all. maybe we can make our OWN empire, with a different emperor.

Would palps win? eh maybe. would it destroy all credibility forever and ever amen? yeah. the difference between a 'legally installed emperor' and 'a dictator we must overthrow' is how willing the galaxy is to lick boot, and there's not yet the fear of The Empire black bagging you to keep those tongues going.

so. palpatine can't say shit. palpatine can imply shit, palpatine can get his lackies to say shit. but, crucially, palpatine himself can't say fuck all about the goddamn kenobi lookalike that is now following after organa and wiping his kid's little butts and playing gofer and whatever else.

and what's more believable? bail fucking organa is hiding a traitor, or bail organa and his wife have a situationship with a guy who looks sort of a bit like a former general? the same kind of situationship that like, half the senate has had at one point or another with a guy (or guys) who looked sort of a bit like said ex-general. go to any high level business and/or political building, you'll find half a dozen guys who look vaguely like said hot ex-general, and many of them will have a more or less (often less) accurate coruscanti-ish accent. or will develop one.

(hey, it's a niche. gotta pay the bills somehow, and if you get the job because you dyed your hair and grew a beard, well, you're still using your political science degree, right?)

of course, that only holds for so long, but by that point it's been, y'know, a while. and that looks worse in a different way -- what, kenobi was fucking walking around in front of the whole imperial senate, and none of them noticed? absolutely not, all credibility is gone forever.

which means. that palpatine and the organas are stuck in a full on staring match about this guy who is 100% for sure not kenobi, because -- well. he can't be kenobi. becuase that would look bad. but also. it's kenobi. but also. it can't be kenobi.

(vader takes one look at this guy who looks like his master kenobi and then rolls his eyes, because he has already met aproximately 90,000 people who look vaugely like his master and he got very good at picking out how the newest one was not kenobi his master by the time he was a senior padawan.)

[nyaagolor]

One of the things I find funniest about 5/6 is how much more insane the stakes get for the finales. Every AA game has had really broad themes but ultimately every final conflict in the trilogy+4 was pretty small in scope, with your villain representing a problem rather than literally Being it. Manfred and Kristoph represented corruption, but they were only ever a face, a consequence, or a symbol of it. Phoenix is taking down one specific symptom of a broader societal conflict within his world because This Specific Person has a personal connection to him in some way. Can you imagine if Engarde actually WAS the assassin? Or if at the end of AA4 we were trying to literally take down the bar association instead of just Kristoph? bc that’s how 5+6 feels to me it's honestly kind of hilarious

The finale cases of the trilogy really stand out to me because while the broader themes are represented through the villains, ultimately our final culprits are Just Some Guy and it makes the conflict so much more personal to Phoenix and resonant with the audience. Then 5 and 6 are like “we can and WILL take on international spies and overthrow the government”. Why. What about the villain as a representation of the protagonist’s grief? What about smaller scale conflicts as a vehicle to represent abstract ideas about truth, corruption, and justice? Why is there power creep in my lawyer game?

[wisteria-cherry]

a finnick odair fic where reader is a capitolite, aged somewhere around 18 where finnick is still a forced pr0stitute

reader buys his time but as it turns out they’re looking to overthrow snow, and so asks that finnick gather secrets for them that would aid them

this is what initiates finnick’s love for secrets in the actual trilogy bc 1) he sees their worth as opposed to money and 2) they remind him of reader

and then reader dies at the end womp womp

[pumpkinrootbeer]

something that stands out to me on my reread is how present haymitch is even when he's not physically there in the books. they kind of undo this in the movies by showing us him running around to get sponsors but how much he comes up during the games, especially in catching fire just really highlights how necessary he was in everything.

a change i absolutely hate is them having haymitch send katniss notes in the movies when in the books they could just communicate effortlessly. two poor kids from seam, they knew each other. we don't really see that kind of communication from anyone else in the trilogy, it's both a testiment to how alike they are and how uncannily clever haymitch manages to be throughout the entirety of the series. I keep thinking about specifically "... a water source for those who don't have mentors as smart as Haymitch."

just. yeah that's my drunk genius who overthrows a government. u go king ily

[scholliski]

my university unknowingly asking me to write an essay on Edgar Allen Poe, not knowing I’m insane and have spent years decoding his life and works to compare them to a trilogy about a teenage boy overthrowing the mafia through the power of stubborn idiocy.

[marietheran]

Thinking how TBoSaS as a whole seems to have more mentions of anything alluding to religion than the previous three books together... By no means is there a lot of it here either - but there's Sejanus' District 2 funeral customs and it crops up in Lucy Gray's songs... "I know the soul that you struggle to save" is explicitly religious terminology (likely not correct religious terminology, but never mind) and of course "You're headed for Heaven, the sweet old hereafter". I'm almost hesitant to count the latter, because the characters in the trilogy also have some vague ideas about some sort of afterlife - Katniss comforts herself thinking "Rue is safe and happy now" after the girl dies, and - I'm not sure it's in the books, but it's in the movies - there is the "If I see you again it will be in another world" line (meaning "either we overthrow the Capitol or we all die"). But neither actually says the word "heaven" outright.

And I know I'm sort of grasping at evidence here, but I do like to think it points to the conspicuous lack of religion of any sort in THG being a state manufactured by the Capitol, if it increases the longer it has been in power.

[aleksanderscult]

What would you think Aleksander's google search history be like? :D (If he had access to it oc)

Now that's very interesting and fun!

Grishaverse trilogy:

"Tips to keep your cool"

"How to endure immortality"

"I've caught feelings what should I do?"

"Local pastry shops" for his sweet tooth y'know ;)

"Sneaky ways to overthrow the shit monarchy"

"How to make your love interest see reason"

"100 + 1 ways to kill your romantic rival"

*after Alina escapes*:

"Ship schedules from East Ravka's port"

"How can you feel less lonely"

"Merzost: What side effects are there?"

"How to make your nichevo'ya pick you up and make you hover above the ground like a badass"

"Rizz lessons"

"Creative ways to dispose your second romantic rival"

"Tips to deal with heartbreak and loss"

Nikolai duology:

"Tips for better patience"

"Tips for better patience"

"Tips for better patience"

*after he sees Alina*:

"Cure for brainwashing"

"Tips for even better patience"

"Tips for even better patience"

"Tips for even better patience"

"How to annoy your enemies"

[1shroom1]

My mother, who’s a huge interview fan herself, and I have developed a modern day (?) iwtv au on crack. It’s plot line is supposed to take course over a book series trilogy. The names of said series are subject to change.

The first series is The Vampires on TV (featuring The Bachelor Lestat and a soap opera with the main cast of Louis, Lestat, Claudia, and Armand living together)

The second series is The Vampires go to therapy (with Dr. Santiago as a Dr. Phil replacement)

And the third series is The Vampire domination where Louis, Lestat, and Armand overthrow the US government (and Lestat eventually plans world domination however this is a WIP concept)

There’s also a spin off series about Magnus’ wacky adventures in the psych ward.

Anyone wanna write it with me?/j

[written-among-the-stars]

Plot Ideas For A Fantasy Book

To figure out what the central plot of my fantasy book should be, I listed the central objectives of many fantasy and fantasy-adjacent pieces of media and tried to group them.

So here's a list of possible plots or "missions" for a fantasy story:) (plus examples)

Finding an artifact (Harry Potter and the Deathly Hollows, Talus Duology)

Finding an animal (Shadow and Bone, Fantastic Beasts and Where To Find Them)

Unraveling a secret (Harry Potter and the Philosopher’s Stone, Stranger Things S1-4)

Murder mystery / Unraveling the circumstances of someone’s death (The Grimoire of Grave Fates, Cemetery Boys, Stranger Things S4)

Finding out the cause of someone’s disappearance and finding them (All Our Hidden Gifts, Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets, Stranger Things S1)

Curing a curse (King of Scars, Stranger Things S2)

Heist (Six of Crows)

Defeating a villain (Harry Potter Saga, Shadow and Bone Trilogy)

Overthrowing the regime (THG: Mockingjay)

Winning a game (The Hunger Games, Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire)

Getting revenge and/or justice (Crooked Kingdom)

Saving a business/company/house/… (Lockwood & Co.)

Saving the motherfucking world (Umbrella Academy S1-3)