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Could you draw a visualization of doomed by the narrative please?
I have many examples of characters that are doomed by the narrative, literally all the characters in Greek tragedies, but I made these two as a first example, a god and a mortal
I wanted to make Cassandra since you know, she always knew her destiny and nobody listened to her, so yeah that was a great example but then I thought that even Helen knew that her beauty would just lead to destruction and death, in some version she even gets killed for her "sin" but I'm not gonna talk about that :D
So yeah I took a perfect line from the musical Paris that Cassandra says.
And then we have Ares or more specifically my interpretation and vision of Ares, I always like to make jokes at his expense, I mean you are a god of war but you always end up losing... But I think he also has more depth than what I like to show, and that's when he wears his armour, don't get me wrong he is a douche in both versions but I think that when he puts his helmet and cloak on he is a different type of person.
#I could talk about this stuff for hours#i love analyzing tropes and the psychology behind a character#greek mythology#the iliad#the odissey#sketch#mini comic#paris the musical#epic the musical#greek epic#helen of sparta never of Troy#helen of sparta#ares#Aphrodite
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Yeah, I know that this is how the story is supposed to go because otherwise we wouldn't have had the Odissey to begin with, but let's be real for a sec.
Penelope wasn't expected to wait for Odysseus. 108 suitors roamed inside the walls of her palace and everybody was fine with that - how long could a kingdom survive without a king? She had to remarry, not a soul was going to speak against it. So how come Odysseus knew that she was going to reject them? Would you dare hoping - betting, even - that your partner is still waiting for you to come back after 20 years? Odysseus could have thrown the towel already. Why would he think that Penelope wasn't going to believe him dead after every other king had returned to home ten years prior? Why would he think that she wasn't going to give Ithaca a new ruler, even though she might have loved him still? He could have said to himself "aight, it's time for the both of us to go on". Yes, he had to see Telemachus again - of course he had - but let's not pretend that he wasn't all the same eager to meet his faithful wife. And why was Penelope faithful? Where did she find the conviction that her husband was going to come back? That he wasn't going to fall in love with another woman on some godforsaken island and decide to stay there? Mind, we're not speaking about a few months of distance, a year, maybe two - twenty years passed and Odysseus knew that she'd been waiting, waiting, for love...
He came back because he had to make it right by her. He knew. What moved him forward was not only the love he held for her but the awareness of the space Penelope had left for him, and that was only his to occupy. And Penelope knew to keep it empty because he was going to return.
The sheer faith that the two of them have in the fact that no matter how long, they've been missed, longed for by their partner, awaited, even... maybe it's just me, but it drives me nuts.
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I've recently made an oc👀
He's got no name yet but I love him so much and I've been having fun trying to practice anatomy with him (> ਊ <)
He's supposed to be a warrior on the side of the acheans but other than that HE GOT NO PLOT YET HE'S ONLY HERE TO SERVE CUNT AND BE PRETTY!!!! I swear I will think about something someday ...maybe... hopefully
#greek mythology#i swear i will think of something#I'm so normal about him#pretty ginger man...#oc#oc art#tagamemnon#the iliad#the odissey#belle tette
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"Let the arrow fly
Once you know that your aim is true"
#epic the musical#odysseus#penelope#fanart#epic fanart#odypen#the odissey#the challenge#yes the lineart looks weird#it's no ai i just scanned a pencil drawing with my phone and then colored it in ibis paint#i just really think that 'rest energy' fits really well#i think that specially within the odissey as penelopes shroud scheme had been exposed her challenge is soo genius#this is a performance that can mean a lot#im really excited for the challenge#penelope of ithaca#odysseus of ithaca#the ithaca saga#epic the ithaca saga#odysseus is supposed to look younger than penelope bc i like to make them struggle to imagine their far away loved ones affected by time#it doesn't matter that he knows 20 years have passed odysseus only knows his son as a baby
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If I was one of the suitors in the Odyssey, I wouldn't die, because instead of trying to marry Penelope, I would've tried to marry Telemachus.
Think about it: she's definitely NOT choosing a husband, but Telemachus? He's 20 (I think some suitors were around that age?), he's the next king, and he's single.
If Odysseus doesn't come back home? Telemachus will be the next king in some years, if someone marries Penelope you can plot with Telemachus to kill him later, I'm sure he'll be in for the ride.
If Odysseus comes back home? You weren't trying to marry his wife, you were here for his son! Who you love very much and have been helping this whole time! You would gladly help him to kill the other suitors of course you would.
Seriously, how is it possible that, of the 106 suitors, no one thought that the clue was winning Telemachus' heart?
#epic the musical#i want one of the suitors to try this tactic and acrually fall in love with telemachus#he's like: i'm so smart and no one can stop me and suddenly he fell head over heels for this sunshine#seriosuly dating telemachus is win win situation#the odissey#odyseuss#telemachus#sorry about the names i'm used to write them in spanish
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Give me all now 😍😍😍 cinema is back
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Given that the War of Troy is dated around 1200 B.C, it would be cool to see more Homeric poems related art that actually showcases the culture these people belonged to: that of a late bronze age civilisation.
Everyone keeps depicting Agamennon & co as if they all lived during the rule of Pericles and I'm kinda tired of it?
And I KNOW these are mythological stories with gods and monsters and magic, but to me it doesn't seem enough of a good reason to just. Deyassify everything.
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Everybody, do yourself a favour and read this. It's written super good with sources and while it is not meant as an easy read (it's still an essay), Cantarella is an amazing writer and classicist I love the part where she states that by telling us that Nestor goes to sleep with his wife right after/before having told us that Telemachus shares the bed with Pysistratus, Homer is basically equalling the two boys' relationships to that of a married couple
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Writing requests!!
I'm opening writing requests for now!
Fandoms I write about:
-Mouthwashing (except Jimmy)
-Spiderman
-Anything Iliad/Odissey related
What I write about:
-NSFW (not any weird kinks like scat)
-Headcannons
-Character X Reader
-Character X Character (nothing illegal or toxic tho)
-Crackfics
-Almost anything really!
Shoot me up a request :3
#mouthwashing fanfic#mouthwashing#mouthwashing game#writing requests#spiderman 2099#spiderman#fanfic#miguel spiderverse#miguel o'hara#the iliad#homer iliad#the odissey#achilles#patroclus#patrochilles#odysseus#across the spiderverse
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THE TELEGONY ISN’T CANNON, OK?
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Hey Mel,,I came with an offering for more Telemachus if possible,,and also cus I love your art💥💥
Here is Telemachus accompanied by his divine godparents (Hermes,Athena and Ares just because why not)
I also gladly accept nuggets as bribe, love you
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Maybe I'm late to the party but I'd like to bring to the attention that Epic is not structurally far from classical greek poetry. The Iliad and the Odissey were both singed by designated bards (aoidos) accompanied by an instrument like a cither. We are so used to reading these poems on paper that we forget they once were part of an oral tradition and that means that Jay's Odissey has come full circle with its ancient singed equivalent. Also, in Epic we can hear recurring musical themes, instruments that evoke certain characters, words or entire phrases often reused. This kind of style is based on the oral-formulaic composition, a techinque employed by epic poets to fixate concepts in the mind of the listening public with the aid of "formulae": a complex of repeated epithets, expressions, verses and topoi.
I'm not sure all of this was in Jay's intentions but I believe it to be noteworthy.
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“While so other magnificent works have disappeared, Homer’s works, even though they were no longer supported by any Church or institution, have come to us intact across the centuries and as many upheavals, never ceasing to fascinate and inspire minds, great and small, generation after generation.
Because these sacred poems are the Greek expression of an heritage common to all our European (or Boreans) ancestors, be they Celtic, Germanic, Slavic or Latin”.
- Dominique Venner.
#Dominique Venner#Homer#the Iliad#the Odissey#Greek myth#mythology#European mythology#European identity#Europe#Nouvelle Droite#Alain de benoist#epic poems#Achaeans#Virgil#the aeneid#agamenon#achilles#Trojan war#odysseus#Ithaca#Troy#Trojan horse
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Witches favourite transport device, invented by Circe.
French vintage postcard
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You try to touch Odysseus Laertiades of Ithaca in front of me and see if it's not the last thing you do ✌️
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What does a girl need to do to get her little hands in The Odissey (the Emily Wilson version)?? 😭
If anyone has it on pdf or something, I'd appreciate if you could share 🥹
#no I can't go to a library because i'm Brazilian#there isn't that specific version and I read somewhere that its easzierd to undertands#(the brazilian version I own is absolute shit I can't read a single word)#and trying to buy it would make the price go 5 times up + 5 times the shipping😭😭#if anyone can help i'd be happy#the odissey#epic the musical#(not really but just in case anyone could possibly help)#odissey
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