#the john sugden of it all

[scrapyardboyfriends]

Here’s some quick fauxbert nonsense for you. (I’m so rusty 🤣)

[watching-tv]

Let’s see where everyone’s heads at for emmerdale

[thedepartmentofdiscoveries]

Are You Being Served? 🧷

Season 9, Episode 4: Calling All Customers.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0514484/

[thelovetheystole]

Thought I would list some of the things (clues) the show has revealed about John so far, as he is supposed to have plenty of secrets...

• He was born in 1988, making him two years younger than Robert (and Andy) and six years older than Victoria

• He likes the saying 'Never forgive, never forget' as revealed in his very first episode

• Barbara and I go way back (quote from Eric about John's mum with a bit of innuendo?)

• He grew up locally, and is a capable farmhand

• He always assumed he had siblings 'out there', but just didn't care (again, he grew up locally and was right between Robert/Andy and Vic in age, his mum used to be a teacher in Hotten)

• He did mention that he thinks he might have heard of Robert, specifically

• He claims to not be interested in the Sugden family, and was seemingly especially un-interested in Sarah, as her dad was adopted, even though he did say sorry to her later

• But he did look intently (when Vic wasn't there) at the Sugden family photo, which had Jack, Sarah and all three kids in it

• He had a stepdad growing up, who apparently did care about him, so no reason to 'feel sorry for him'

• Barbara Ann's (his mum) married name looks like it started with a C or a G, like Conne (o)r, Chase, Cro(a)ft, Grant or Gray?

• He said his mum wrote Jack a letter about him once, but Jack never replied

• Called Robert some random/stranger 'that I happen to share dna with'

• Keeps army tags that say 'Aiden Moore' in a box he doesn't want people to see

• 'I know more than you think' (to Aaron when he denied John knowing anything about him or something to that effect)

• Wears a St. Christopher necklace

• According to an interview with Oliver, John has spent 12 years in the army, It's unclear which 12 years

• Having been in the village for a month, he has asked zero questions about anything Sugden related

• He was a medic in the army

• He was the last person to see Nate before he left the village

• He looked like he might have had something in his van after the fire that he didn't want anyone to see

• Refused to be checked at the hospital, even though he was coughing his lungs up after the fire

[renamusing]

Why is emmerdale so stupid to make this all about people comparing them to robron if they are not going to give us the real Sugden after all this.

Like if they wanted this to be an amazing ship and love story they should have stayed far away from the robron memories and built a new ship now that soaps are lacking of a good m/m one.

This was their oportunity to do it right and they are doing this.

Why?

Ryan Hawley save us from all this. Make this make sense and give us Robert back NOW.

I agree wholeheartedly. ED really wrote themselves into a corner if Ryan doesn't return in the foreseeable. I mean, Aaron deserves to be happy and I'm all here for him finding love if Robert/Ryan isn't available, but to rely so much on Robron's previous relationship and storyline points just feels cheap and does a disservice to everyone involved, especially Aaron's character who is one of the most developed and beloved on the soap.

It has been said often, but they are following the Robron guidebook for views and without Robert's big return to make up for it and test John's character who usurped his place as the Sugden prodigal son and his love interest, then it just proves our point doesn't it?

Let's have faith and see! I'm fairly certain Danny would not comeback for this mess after what happened last time with Ben, but who knows... Fingers crossed!

[dannymillerfansite]

Spoilers Emmerdale star Danny Miller has confirmed that his character Aaron Dingle will be sharing scenes with the show's new Sugden.

Show bosses recently announced the casting of former Coronation Street actor Oliver Farnworth as newcomer John Sugden, who'll be joining the village later in the summer.

John is a new arrival who'll be shaking up life for Victoria, who's the only remaining Sugden family member still left in the village.

He has also been tipped to "catch the eye of an unsuspecting resident", creating plenty of drama in the Dales.

Speaking to Digital Spy on the red carpet at the Radio Times Soap Awards, Danny teased: "There's a Sugden coming in. With the history that Aaron has with Robert, it'll be interesting to see what happens with them. "It's going to be an interesting few months, which is great."

Off screen, Ryan Hawley – who played Aaron's husband Robert – recently made the switch to BBC One's Casualty. He's currently playing the role of Jamie Cleveland in the long-running medical drama.

Asked about Ryan's new job, Danny joked: "Traitor! He's a great actor and I speak to him all the time.

"Hopefully he does a good job – I'm sure he will, with everything else he's done. I'm excited for him."

Oliver Farnworth was recently pictured filming alongside Jeff Hordley (Cain Dingle) for some dramatic Emmerdale fire scenes, which will air in a few weeks' time.

John Sugden will be involved in the high-stakes rescue scenes when Moira Dingle and Ruby Fox-Miligan get trapped in a burning barn.

via Digital Spy

[isabellaofparma]

omg your comment about john being a dick but not in a fun way is one of my main problems w this storyline, it’s as if the producers/writers were like ‘oh well robert was a dick and aaron fell for him so let’s just do that again’ but robert was playful!!! he was charming!!! also i think robert had a certain vulnerability about him from the start that i think helped draw aaron in, like outright admitting that he faked his car breaking down to get aaron to come and his soft ‘i’m not messing you around’ to stop aaron from leaving. john is literally just a prick to aaron and takes himself too seriously there’s no reason why that would attract aaron to him lmao

Yeah! Plus Aaron thought Robert was struggling with his sexuality (which he was, but not the way Aaron'd thought) so he forgave him a lot for that. I'm sure John has some issues that make him act the way he does but I'm pretty sure Aaron doesn't even suspect that, he is just like 'What a dick. I can't not fuck him' which okay, lust exists, being horny exists but you need insane amout of chemistry for that to work and more goddamn screentime! But like I said, they seem to be speedrunning through this whole thing so no time for that. And you know, all of this could still work if they leaned into the Robert angle. If they said 'Aaron misses Robert so much he will take any crumbs that's a reminder of him' and that's why they keep giving them these knock off affair scenes but no, Robert is only present at the bare minimum. I don't understand why the Sugden connection was necessary if they don't really want to use it (regarding Aaron, at least). Someone mentioned John could have been Eric's relative, still have a connection to the village, be a dick and hook up with Aaron. Not much would have changed.

[sugdensdingle]

^ Aaron and John’s full scenes from today’s Emmerdale are now available on Dailymotion

I will be posting all of John’s scenes there (and probably Aaron too). My Dailymotion account is @Sugdensdingle just like this blog.

Full disclosure, I am NOT doing this because I care about Aaron and John together, it’s just because I know some people are curious about the storyline but don’t want to watch the full episodes, which is absolutely fair. Plus for me personally, I love Aaron of course and I am still interested in John’s character because he is a Sugden!

[damnitiloveyou]

it’s baffling to me that robert’s barely been mentioned throughout all of this. like the story would still suck regardless but you would assume that the reason they made john robert’s brother and paired him with aaron would be to create a sense of conflict for aaron??? we had literally maybe 2 minutes of that and now aaron’s carrying on as if robert never existed. what was the point!!!!!

The lack of Robert mentions is absurd. But clearly they only made him a Sugden so they could attempt a half-ass speed run Robron do over. It's blatantly obvious that was the plan and that they didn't bother to actually have any kind of plan outside of making him a Sugden. It's why anyone attempting to understand it is wasting their time. We cannot make sense out of something that never had a purpose or point to begin with.

[veryveryverytemporarily]

So it now seems pretty obvious that all they wanted to do was recreate the robron settled family structure of Aaron with a Sugden and Vic as the sister. They were never interested in how they got there hence the lack of interest in a good narrative, just being there. Hope dies hard but I don't expect any Robert angst in this set up.

I also think they want them to be together for whatever reason come the big barn whodunit.

John has no light and shade and is dull dull dull, I'm with Mack; Aaron deserves better.

[sugdenlovesdingle]

just read the news about john sugden and all i have to say is...LAZY WRITING!

i know they're trying to get the robron fandom back but why in the world would they think THIS is how they should it??? like rob's long lost half brother?? give me a break.

and considering that the writing has been so annoying in recent years (in my opinion) i fear the writers are gonna try to hit us over the head with parallels and forced chemistry scenes.....ughhhh

not looking forward to it. at all.

Yeah same here. And even now they're pretending that's not exactly what they're doing.

"Ooooooh who will this new Sugden get with??!?!??? Nobody knows!!! Keep watching!!!"

Uhm he's gay and all of the other gay men except Aaron are either dead or gone so it's really not that hard to figure out!

They really think they can just recreate robron by pushing a Sugden on Aaron. They're delusional.

[scrapyardboyfriends]

We're laughing about the absurdity that Aaron would keep going back to John but watching affair era, Robert is just as bad and frankly so is Aaron. Haha.

He's like whatever this is, it's over, it'd done after the Lachlan drugs thing and then like the next day he's walking up to Aaron at the garage all like "so Lachlan's back home and everything is fine wanna meet up later?" And Aaron's all "you don't care about your step son at all" and then five minutes later he's like "kiss and make up? don't mind if I do!" They're so dumb.

But at least they've been at this for a month already and they've had like...actual conversations. And Robert is investing in his business. And they seem to genuinely enjoy spending time together. And Robert's been having problems with Chrissie this whole time so it's believable that he'd miss being with someone he can be more of himself with.

I mean look at that...character motivations! Haha.

But no really...the John and Aaron stuff is so baffling to me because they still haven't even had a proper conversation yet. They badly flirted over Aaron fixing the van. Had a stilted chat after they hooked up. Aaron accused him of knowing he was Robert's brother and they shoved and punched each other. The van stuff was more Mack and John. And they had that horrendous exchange where John was all "i know you want me" at Aaron so he'd try and kiss him and that's literally it.

The fact that they've never just had a normal chat or tried to get to know each other at all or even talked about the Robert of it all is just...

I truly don't understand how there could possibly be any feelings there from this. It's ridiculous.

[smittenkitteninbrittain]

listen. I have not posted anything on robron in the last five years. I follow emmerdale by checking spoilers now and then. But I had to bring this blog out of retirement because I can't decide whether I am shocked that emmerdale would sacrifice a piece of robron lore like this or very entertained by the thought of Aaron finding out that John is Robert's brother and Victoria figuring out that Aaron did 3/4 Sugden siblings.

and I need all of you on tumblr to know that.

[thelovetheystole]

So, as they are tarnishing all our treasured Robron moments and places, what's next? Their lines?

You know why we're both still here. You know? I know. No one else comes close. I don't want easy, I want messed up.

Are those up for grabs too?

Are we supposed to think that all the beats in Robron's story happened because Robert was a Sugden, and because John is too, 'fate' is just making these moments happen again, at the same (or very similar) places?

Actually, all this story is doing for me is alienating me further from Aaron as a character. Because I can't wrap my head around his 'passion' for Robert's brother (or the name Sugden or the dna they have or whatever it is) or his willingness to make parallel memories with him.

Sorry, I forgot, he just can't help himself against all that Sugden 'charm'.

[renamusing]

hey guys, quick psa. i will be uploading the upcoming john sugden intro scenes at @aarondinglearchive and all his parts afterwards so long as they pertain to aaron's story (which by now we all expect to). the videos will be tagged for blacklisting purposes in case there's people who don't want to see fauxrobert on their dash 🫡

[dannymillerfansite]

Emmerdale 08.08.24 Part 5

Aaron reels as he takes it in, he's bedded his (former) brother in law! And not wanting to out this to Victoria. Aaron decides to get away as he struggles with the revelation.

Mackenzie goes to check Aaron's OK, and Aaron begs him to keep quiet that he slept with John, while Mackenzie is also amused. Aaron's desperate that Victoria never finds out, Aaron though doesn't believe it's all a coincidence and is suspicious of John's motives.

Meanwhile John has been invited to Victoria's house, he looks at Sugden family photos and learns a little about the Sudgen family and hears a little of Victoria's brothers and son, she invites him to stay the night and although he preferred to kip in his van, reluctantly agrees.