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so sick and tired of the “jedi are an evil and abusive cult that steals children” as if half the reason they weren’t protecting these children is bc sith were out killing them or TURNING THEM INTO SITH. they weren’t even STEALING children to begin with I thought we all knew that was Palpatine’s game not Yoda’s.
#i hate star wars fans i truly do#they wanna pick apart the jedi like of course there are mistakes and wrong doings#bUT THE SITH ARE RIGHT THERE#trying to build the narrative that anakin was abused by the jedi is absolutely crazy when his actions and thoughts were all his own#and GROOMED by palpatine#the only reason people want to pin them as bad people is because yoda could call out anakin’s bad behavior#that and they didnt promote him to master right away because oh im the chosen one i should be#like you need to PROVE you are the chosen one and that you WILL bring balance to the force and NOT DESTROY IT#THATS FHE WHOLE PROPHECY#AND PEOPLE WONDER WHY THEY WERE CAREFUL WITH ANAKIN???#and then the oh well they make you supress feelings#nO#THEY#DONT#they make you surpress attachments so that if it comes DOWN to it you will save the many and not just risk it all to save the ONE#disney has done damage to the star wars community i swear#saw a tik tok comment section where they said the council is like the christian church#lost my MIND#well the jedi fit cult criteria!!#wow! star wars fans find out WHAT A GROUP OF RELIGION IS#LITERALLY ANY GROUP OF RELIGION CAN BE CALLED A CULT NOT EVERY CULT IS BAD#im sorry i cant stand it anymore#star wars#star wars tcw#auxxrat yap#jedi council#jedi#star wars legends
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Oh, I've not even gone into the whole aspect of their having to be basically guilt-abducted from their families.
Because the government-sanctioned order of religious monks knocks on your door, and tells you that they need to take your child to Wizard School and you'll never see them again, and isn't that a great honor for *you?*
Meanwhile, they're taking children who are younger then 9, because 9 is *too old* for proper training, isolating them all into one giant building, drilling into them that emotions are bad, that self sacrifice is good, and that dying for the cause just means you go back into the River of Life and that's pretty awesome.
And then there's the whole Thing that for a group of people who's whole Hat is Diplomacy and Protection, there is not ONE instance in the lore of Star Wars where we see a Jedi Mission that doesn't end in them murdering people.
There are no Jedi Colombos, no Jedi Sherlocks, No Jedi Agatha Cristie's.
For as "uncivilized" as blasters are, they have stun settings, lightsabers do not.
The entire political despotism of the Republic hinges on the jedi.
The very *reason* Palpatine can do what he did, is because the Republic has not had to deal with a galaxy capable of spreading a rebellion.
Because every time the sparks of dissent popped up, after all diplomatic options had been used...
They sent in the Jedi to "Talk sense" into the rebellious faction.
And eventually, the one put in charge of that faction was more interested in being alive, then in their ideals.
And thus, "peace" is maintained.
And I can go ON about this. I have EMOTIONS about this.
sometimes i feel like it'd be easier to get all star wars fans to agree that dooku's first name is yan (a fully made up fanon thing) than it would be to get them to agree that the jedi were good and didn't deserve genocide (a fully fundamental canon thing)
#from a certain point of view#Essay#that's what i say#the Jedi cult#Productivity is the enemy#nerd shit#Star wars
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listen revan is divine because they are mortal not in spite of it. it is divinity a construct. it the trappings of religion in the context of cult, in the fervor of worship, in the reverence for sacrifice, in the 'us' versus 'them.' they are the patron saint of lost causes, they are the prophet of retribution, the god of getting from point a to point b in the most efficient way possible, regardless of who or what you must move though. and it is a godhood held aloft by those who throw themselves underneath them. who come clamoring to their beckoning hands knowing loyalty will be rewarded with loyalty in turn. who eagerly feed a machine they know would shatter worlds to achieve their goal.
#i usually just draw a weird picture about it but i need to like. Explain this. revan is a revolutionary revan is a cult leader#revan failed as a jedi revan failed as a sith#revan is selfish. revan only knows how to live for other people.#revan#knights of the old republic#yeah this goes in the tag. what about it.#rené.txt#i realize i do not Talk about revan a whole lot. except like the prequel au stuff sometimes. but i need you to know what i'm about.#there is no end to the brainrot about it
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Bodevember
Calling all Bode Akuna fans!
The Cult of Cal Kestis Discord server is hosting a special event dedicated to our other favorite guy… and since he’s too good not to share, we’re rolling this out to Tumblr as well so that everyone can join in. Which means…
BODEVEMBER begins Friday, November 8th!
This is a special two-week event dedicated to all things Bode Akuna - art, screenshots, fics, videos, crafting and fandom participation of all kinds.
Yes! We have prompts!
WEEK 1:
Friday, November 8th - Brotherhood
Saturday, November 9th - Jetpack/Scrapper
Sunday, November 10th - Fall Aesthetic
Monday, November 11th - Blaster Stance
Tuesday, November 12th - Ghost Star
Wednesday, November 13th - The Art of Disguise
Thursday, November 14th - A Bedtime Story for Kata
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WEEK 2:
Friday, November 15th - Poor Bastard’s In Love
Saturday, November 16th - The Red Lightsaber
Sunday, November 17th - Moral Compass
Monday, November 18th - Gaze Into The Abyss
Tuesday, November 19th - ISBlues/Nova Garon
Wednesday, November 20th - The Entire Galaxy In Her Eyes
Thursday, November 21st - A Chance To Surrender
Bonus: Friday, November 22nd - Giving Thanks
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We hope you’ll join us in celebrating Bodevember and sharing the love for one of our faves. Please tag your posts with #Bodevember and let us know what you’re up to!
May the Force be with you all! - Mod Dubs
(Credits: art by @animatedjen and @flammabel, used with kind permission - all prompts by @the-dubstep-strawberry )
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are you suffering from cal kestis brainrot? you don't have to suffer alone!
share your jedi fallen order/jedi survivor art, fics, vids & screencaps
brainstorm fic ideas, share headcanons & more
separate channels for ships (all ships welcome!)
server watch parties for new (and old) star wars content
please note this server is 18+ only, thank you!
#come suffer with us lmao#there's also a cult of turgle. there's ship art. you've been warned#you can DM me if you have any questions!#we're watching the acolyte in 10!#cal kestis#jedi survivor#jedi fallen order#(screenshot from me)
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#harry potter#iron man#marvel#the avengers#got#lotr#lord of the rings#star wars#jedi#frodo baggins#thor#oscar#komvie#cult
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Acolyte Spoilers #1
Okay so -- of the many, many, MANY things about SW canon that are both hilarious and horrifying in light of episode 1 of the Acolyte, this is the one that's sticking out to me now: So, apparently, in canon, Anakin and his "unorthodox" training that everybody in the Temple yelled at him for has officially now saved Ahsoka's life approximately 1033 times over instead of just 1032. Why? Because Osha out here, Jedi dropout, working for the Trade Federation on a case-by-case basis (who are talking over comms about how disposable she is!) because, and I quote/near-quote: the Jedi skills aren't transferable. And apparently, they don't really teach you anything else, not officially. If you don't have a master who cares about that kind of thing, maybe you don't get any kind of training that way at all. AND, evidently, if you leave or get kicked out, they don't give you any kind of job training, stipend, or post-Order care, as we saw with both Ahsoka and Osha. So that particular fun little fanon sop to the Jedi just died a lonely death LOL. So Anakin, by teaching Ahsoka an actual, marketable trade (mechanics) (why is that the only trade in Star Wars?? Guys, learn some basket-weaving) absolutely saved her life. (Again.) So, to recap: You're taken to the main government-sponsored (literally, from what I can see) cult, the Jedi Order, often as a baby so you have no say in it. There are laser swords, telekinetic space monks who have lived in power for centuries, a planet-city full of corruption, and absolutely no child endangerment or child labor laws. Your "brethren" can and literally do invade people's minds and control them without asking if it's convenient. You are ostracized for forming any kind of attachment; apparently, if you blink in vague confusion while a fascist green lady asks you if you're down with murdering your young former padawan for political convenience, you're too attached. (AND that is a whole hilarious post on its own). Key salient details will be left out of your file to aid in a coverup about your origins. The minimal amount of critical thinking will be done at all times, if you're lucky. And then, of course, if you dare to leave or get kicked out of this utterly Benevolent Cult in which you had no choice in spending your entire life, you...will have no resources, no job training, and be left to sink or swim. And then at any point the Jedi will have free rein to pop back into the life you've shakily managed to construct for yourself, arrest you immediately on the testimony of one (1) (non-human guy who might not be able to tell the difference between one human and the next!), and then get you crashlanded onto an icy death planet and hunt you down, laser swords out and ready to slice and dice you to death. Yep. Sounds about right. (Wait till you get to the human clones manufactured to die, Osha! That'll be fun.) Sooo -- any sane person's reaction to the Jedi Cult here should be:
@clawedandcute
#the acolyte#star wars#jedi#not pro jedi#anti-jedi#anti-fascist#anti-cult#funny#because this is funny to me#the Jedi#are not about those marketable skillz#anakin#ahsoka#once again the jedi are on the frameup job#this time the jedi are on the frameup job themselves#good Lord they're not even trying to frame Osha and the Jedi are still falling for it#Palpatine over here like: is it really that easy?#yes#accidental sith au#clawedandcute#mywildernesspost
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just had a weird thought...
what would happen if a jedi got pregnant? what would happen to them? would they be forced to give it up? is there contraceptives they are forced to take? would they be forced to leave the order? are female jedi given the choice?
cuz like, we all know jedi aren't "celibate" but like what would actually happen if a jedi didn't want to give a child up?
like i know no one will probably answer this but i giggle imagining someone telling yoda and the jedi council that they're pregnant and they dont know what to do and the council is just exchanging side eyes lmao
like we know that ki adi mundi had multiple wives because his species was dying out but like... idk has anyone ever thought about female jedi in this scenario like??? what if a woman was in that position?
in usual fashion, star wars is male-centered and doesn't think about these things so here i am wondering about them.
#starwars#star wars#jedi#jedi council#yoda#master yoda#ki adi mundi#pregnant jedi do they exist?#like what if a jedi decided they wanted a family even after reaching the jedi master title like ??#the more i think about it the jedi are a kind of cult that idk id want to be a part of#yes this thought was provoked bc of a certain ship#star wars high republic#star wars old republic
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Hey. By the way. Here's your reminder that the way you talk about the Jedi Order can and does spill over into talk of real world religions and sometimes the ways in which you talk about the Jedi betray some really concerning and alarming views of those religions!! So maybe!! Be careful about that shit!! Thanks!!
#next person who calls the jo a cult owes me and every religious sw fan $5#personal#star wars#i know i've made posts about this before but i'm gonna keep doing it until people learn to shut up and not regurgitate extraordinarily#concerning talking points#jedi#jedi order#jedi culture#star wars meta#star wars discourse#ahsoka#fandom: star wars#type: meta
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Between the gods discourse from Critical Role and the Force/Jedi/Sith discourse from The Acolyte, I'm just like... even fictional religion is stressful to talk about, man. Really interesting, sure, but the implications and different factions and multitude of things to consider just make my head hurt and I need to stop looking at it and take a break.
#critical role#the acolyte#star wars#the force#jedi discourse#sith discourse#exandrian pantheon#ludinus da'leth#fictional religion#gods discourse#doesn't help that they're both invoking colonialism and cult tactics in confusing ways#and that it's the source of a lot of cool powers in both cases#i need a break who's with me
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Love how people are SHOCKED when they come on a Pro Jedi blog and criticize the Jedi for particularly heinous bullshit and the Pro Jedi person gets defensive and upset in response.
Wow, no one could have seen that coming.
#fandom wank#pro jedi#pro jedi culture#pro jedi order#listen if you sit there and criticize the jedi in the notes of my posts i will block you at this point#i am beyond debating this bullshit with people#if you want to criticize the jedi go somewhere else#this means any and all gray jedi bs#this means calling the jedi slave owners#this means calling the jedi arrogant or complacent#this means any use of the word cult or indoctrination wrt the jedi's culture#if you put it in my notes you are no longer allowed to interact with my blog again
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HAPPY 31ST BIRTHDAY, BILLIE LOURD!!!
#happy birthday#happy birthday 2023#july 17#july 2023#billie lourd#star wars the force awakens#star wars the last jedi#star wars the rise of skywalker#scream queens#ahs cult#ahs apocolaypse#ahs 1984#ahs double feature#ahs nyc#ahs delicate#actor#cancer
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"If you have a negative interpretation of the jedi you're a bad person who obviously thinks real world religions are also cult-" they're fictional space wizards dude they're not real and it's not that deep. People are allowed to have different interpretations of a text than you including ones that interpret your favourite guys in a negative light. Crazy thought there
#star wars#sw#god those posts annoy the shit out of me#'waaa if you interpret the jedi as a cult you clearly think bad things about real people to' they arent real#who am i being bigoted against? a bunch of pixels on a screen?#some thoughts
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hey what if star wars: the acolyte (2024) had been good. can you imagine if that had been good. can you imagine if the next installment of star wars with that really good cast and those really good fight scenes had covered the beginning of their descent into corruption. if it had been about the central main character who starts out as a kind and well-meaning roguishly charming protagonist had turned to the dark side BECAUSE of the actions of JEDI and her "evil" ""twin"" had ended up as the GOOD one. can you imagine if a jedi who thought he was a good guy and ""meant well"" threw one little girl down a hole and kidnapped the other one. imagine if a gripping critique and/or deconstruction about the jedi practice of taking children and why is it they feel the need to lie about their own people doing bad things in the name of their beliefs. and then that guy with the big sad brown eyes got the protagonist to put on his scary helmet and then they were scared of it together and they touched hands like those lesbians in andor except it was hornier AND!!! it had been GOOD!!!!!! instead of written by FUCKING CHATGPT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#personal#star wars blogging#this was an attempt to recreate a rant that i had out loud at top volume after the credits rolled#it'll never be as good but this is the gist of it#by the way i seriously am not kidding i really do believe they wrote that script with chatgpt#GOD. it was. SO CLOSE#I THINK THE JEDI ARE A MASSIVE SYSTEM OF UNCHECKED POWER POSING AS A RELIGION A DELUSIONAL CULT THAT CLAIMS TO CONTROL THE UNCONTROLLABLE#YOUR EMOTIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!#YOU PROJECT AN IMAGE OF GOODNESS AND RESTRAINT BUT IT’S ONLY A MATTER OF TIME BEFORE ONE OF YOU SNAPS#AND WHEN. NOT IF!!!!!!! THAT HAPPENS#WHO WILL BE STRONG ENOUGH TO STOP HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!#(luke skywalker)
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By now, I think the most interesting thing about The Acolyte is the debates around it. I do not mean to say it isn’t interesting by that, I haven’t seen it, but the searing hot online “fights” are gems. By reading a handful of posts just here—screw Twitter and its short format that won’t let it all be full-blown fun—the show seems to be hitting very touchy spots in society (or should I say Western society?) regarding morality, power, institutions… especially institutions. There are some people that I sense subconsciously see elements, whether it be characters, organizations, or values as stand-ins (or whatever the correct term is) for real-world characters, organizations, or values that they hold on to. I see this especially in post-The Acolyte pro-/anti-Jedi discourse.
#the acolyte star wars#the acolyte (2024)#the acolyte#leslye headland#pro-jedi#anti-jedi#the acolyte critical#jedi critical#star wars show#star wars#institutions#power abuse#good and evil#sith#pro-sith#anti-institution#Religion#Religious group#cults#Mann Walter
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On June 2, 1983, Return of the Jedi debuted in the United Kingdom.
Here's some new Princess Leia art!
#return of the jedi#star wars#carrie fisher#united kingdom#science fiction#sci fi#sci fi art#star wars art#star wars fan art#1980s#80s movies#movie art#art#drawing#movie history#pop art#modern art#pop surrealism#cult movies#portrait#cult film
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