#the end of time part two

[lasttree-garsennon]

Fellas is it gay to tell your childhood best friend turned homoerotic enemy that he is beautiful wonder what one would be without him and ask him to travel the universe with you?

[haredjarris]

Super specific poll time.

Feel free to add propaganda in the tags and reblogs. I would but I'm lazy. And also I don't wanna start crying.

Edit: I meant to set this longer than a day, damnit. Might do it again if this one doesn't get many votes.

[thingsasbarcodes]

Doctor Who 2009x04 - The End of Time - Part Two

[mores0]

The Time Lords Peaked at The War Games.

In my opinion, I think the Time Lords were at their best during the War games. Because before the War games, we didn’t really know anything about the Time Lords or Gallifrey, or any of that really.

But then the War Games comes ripping around the corner and everything took a sudden turn before the Time Lords were even mentioned by name.  Then they were, and the Doctor explains that the Time Lords are his people and Jamie was like, ‘oh, everything’s alright then, if they’re your people than that must be a good thing because you’re good,’ (not what he actually said, but it’s what he meant) but it wasn’t. Like the scene in the End of Time part two with Wilfred and Ten (and I’ll get to that later, hang on).  And when The Doctor went to call the Time Lords, even the War Chief, the main baddie of the entire series, was frightened which really tells you something.

Then the Doctor tells Jamie and Zoe to stay there because the Time Lords will take them home as well. But Jamie and Zoe refused, because of course they would, and the Doctor just gives in and was just like ‘alright then’ and they all move on. And now the Doctor was like ‘okay, but we have to get the hell out of here before the Time Lords get here’ But then the Time Lords begin to arrive.

Then everything begins to slow down. And they begin to slow down. And the Doctor, Jamie and Zoe are trying to run to the TARDIS, but they’re moving at a snails pace, and in the background there’s a haunting and suspenseful song being played, and at this point the Doctor is making a desperate crawl to the TARDIS, but he’s just not close enough to get in, and it was terrible.  But luckily, Jamie was able to open the doors, and it’s like thank God, they made it, everything’s okay now! Wahoo!

But then the Time Lords start to take over the TARDIS to take them back to Gallifrey. And then the Time Lords make their first actual appearance.

They tell the Doctor that he has to come home immediately and face trial, but the Doctor didn’t want to and just wanted them to leave him alone, but of course they didn’t. So they tried flooding the TARDIS, telling the Doctor that his travels were over. So they went to Gallifrey.

And the Time Lords were just so /calm/ throughout the whole thing. They never yelled or got angry, they just said everything like there wasn’t any other option, and it was terrifying.

Then there were the trials where the Time Lords keep their calm and just wiped the War Cheif from existence like it was nothing.

And in trial, after being convinced that the Doctor still has a role to play in the universe, it was another ‘wahoo’ moment, because then they all try to escape, and everything should’ve been fine. In any other episode or series, they would’ve gotten away and had more adventures, but in the War Games, they don’t. They can’t.  So they all say their goodbyes, “I won’t forget you.”

But they do. All of Jamie’s and Zoe’s memories of the Doctor, and of everything they’ve done and seen and accomplished besides their first meeting were wiped away like nothing at all.

And on top of that, they force the Doctor to regenerate to be put on exile in what has to be one of the most terrifying and depressing regeneration in all of Doctor Who, as the Doctor yells “no, no, no” as everything spins before disappearing completely— like what the fuck?? I honestly cried while watching this.

And compared to every other episode or series the Time Lords popped up in, from Classic to New Who, they haven’t matched up to the War Games.

Not even in The End of Time, where they were at their most threatening under the War Games. But at the end of the day, in the End of Time, the Doctor beat the Time Lords, the day was saved, he could’ve went and had more adventures, and the only reason why he didn’t was because of Wilfred in the little machine thingy, not the Time Lords. And they kind of took the back seat to the Master if I’m being completely honest. The Master was the main threat really, not them.

So overall, I believe that the Time Lords were at their best, most menacing and impactful in the War Games, because in everything else it’s always felt as if they took the sidelines, and were always just easily brushed aside or defeated, while in the War Games, they won. And they did so easily.

[bloodurged]

+1000 psychic damage.

[foolishhitt]

“But really, do you think I’d leave my best friend without a defence mechanism?”

[egophiliac]

back at it again with the extremely self-indulgent diafams! I am being emotionally supported by overly-cutesy interactions between anime characters right now, don't judge me.

(also continuing with my headcanons that 1) mustache Bauru, and 2) he'll be hugely tsundere about it but you can, ultimately, convince him to do just about anything via careful application of Sebek.)

[ptr-sqloint]

[puppppppppy]

act 4 :(

@chipper-smol and i came to a realization

[just-null]

i am literally on my KNEEEEEESSSSS. please please make more yandere hantengu clone art.. i don’t care if you don’t color it in or if it’s just a simple sketch PLEASE 😞

is the threat directed at you??? at others??? at something else??? do you even want to find out??? You'll probably be okay if you get back home before dark and make it up to him.

[lasttree-garsennon]

Arrey beti pushpa kaha Jaa Rahi ho apne gadhe par baith kar

[localcanadiancreature62]

Marital issues mad scientists..

They just do this a lot,huh?. I swear if i see another one of these fuckers i will start killing with hammers.

[bacchuschucklefuck]

we let the ocean drown out our voices/enjoying the bitterness/in the chaotic light, I close my eyes and see

[bloodurged]

oh, sweetie.

[aingeal98]

More Jason and Cass thoughts (sorry but also not sorry) but if I was magically given full control over DC and could write what I'd want obviously I'd make Cass Batman but I've been thinking of what sort of reaction and role Jason would have in response. I think I'd write his version of "Congrats on the new job!" as a test, involving the Joker and civilians and gangs and Red Hood and a ton of explosives. Bruce failed me, and now he's given up. You're his successor, let's see how you handle this dilemma that freaked him out so badly he threw a batarang into my throat rather than let me avenge my own death in front of him.

So obviously Cass will overcome the traps and the puzzles. That's the fun part to show how competent both of them are and sprinkle in little character moments as we go. But then we reach the emotional crux of the matter, probably laid out as some sort of saw trap because it's Jason. Here I am, a victim of murder. You say nobody dies tonight but I did, and I want the man who did it dead. Not only did Batman fail to avenge me but he failed to stop the Joker from going on to create even more victims. What right do you have to stop me from getting justice for myself? What right does this man have to life after what he's taken from me and from countless others? I'm not trying to kill a random stranger, I'm specifically demanding justice for my own death that I never got while I was gone.

There are two ways this could go. The straightforward route if I knew my time on this run was limited would probably be a pyrrhic victory like the ones Cass's og series was so fond of. Just like Bruce in utrh, she acts on instinct and saves the Joker (and Jason this time) . A win technically, but she fails the test. Jason is once again vindicated but with nothing to show for it. The story ends with Cass sending the Joker back to jail and going back to the batcave, where the old Robin costume looms judgementally, highlighting her failure. It would be the most fitting end given their character molds, all tragedy and conviction and unstoppable force meets immovable object etc.

However... I think the option I prefer would be a little different. Cass levelling with Jason, a killer talking to a murder victim. She has no right to stop Jason from getting justice, she has no love for the Joker but she knows any death she allows to happen like this would devastate her, just like that death row inmate long ago she tried to break out but ended up letting go once the family of the victim talked to her and demanded justice. I think... In this specific situation, she'd just be honest. Morally she has no right sure. Personally she just really really doesn't want anyone to die. Give her one chance, please. Let her try it her way. Not demanding, not lecturing or insisting, just... Please. Don't do this. Let me try another way.

And then what? Jason asks.

In the end a deal is struck. Cass will take the Joker and lock him up, ensuring he never harms anyone again while also trying to rehabilitate him. But the second she fails and he gets free, Jason kills him and she won't stand in his way. It's the kind of deal that leaves both of them mildly disgusted and dissatisfied with themselves, neither of them naturally creatures of compromise when it comes to this specific topic. But Cass is willing to do anything to avoid death and Jason did not expect the new Bat to be so... Flexible? Kind of? Of course maybe she won't actually hold up her end of the deal and when the Joker gets loose she'll try and stop Jason from killing him and he'll get his miserable vindication, but right now this is something strange and new and he's mildly confused and curious about where it will go. He doesn't believe in her ability to contain the Joker forever but he's willing to let her try because her reaction to that future failure interests him. She's given him a sword of damocles to hang above her head and he didn't ask for it or expect it. It's the type of power he never thought the Bat would just... Hand to him.

The conflict ends with neither of them fully winning or losing. They both don't really know what to feel about this.

The thing is, the second Cass let's Jason kill the Joker she's hanging up the mantle. She's staking the Bat on this, because it's always go big or go home with her when it comes to saving others, even someone like the Joker. In this magical universe where I have unlimited power, Cass would lock the Joker in a secret bunker and have Leslie Thompkins talk to him daily, mostly because I think her pacifism speeches and debates in the comics would make a fun contrast to the Joker's evil sadism. (But what about his rights? Doesn't he deserve a trial and to be held in a regular prison? I'm going to be honest I think Cass would be very comfortable bending the rules on this specific situation. Morally questionable but I'd have fun with it. She's going to let Leslie treat Joker like her personal pet project to save his soul because yes she wants him to change but also she's got a city to save every night so go crazy Leslie, have fun.)

And the Batman series would continue with Cass as the lead, new challenges and new antagonists and every twenty issues or so for the first hundred we'll cut back to the Joker briefly if his chats with Leslie can help highlight some thematic element of the current arc. But bit by bit he'd slowly fade away onto oblivion, maybe getting referenced every hundred issues or so until eventually no one remembers or cares about him because there's so much else going on. Meanwhile Jason's got a good thing going as Red Hood, primarily based in Park Row and a tentative ally on the occasion when their vigilante work aligns. Unlike Joker he's a much more frequent character in the comics, and after say 10 years (this is my magical fantasy universe Cass's batman run is going to last for a very long time alright) when people think of DC characters they think of Red Hood long before they think of the Joker.

Is any of this realistic? Right now of course not. It's why I'd go with the pyrrhic victory if I actually got the chance, because it would be the best way to tell the story in the larger context of the Bat narrative. But it's my fantasy DC editor and writer daydream and I'm going to dream big. They're never going to be normal happy siblings, their personal demons will never fully let them be free and the looming possibility of losing everything they currently have narrative wise if Bruce comes back as Batman will always be there. But it's maybe the closest to peace they'll ever get. Unsatisfying and tame compromise that probably violates several laws and ethical codes but whatever. Cass has never read the Geneva convention and Jason's not going to shed tears over the Joker. Let him die relevancy wise if not physically.

[egophiliac]

tsum events really are just the best, huh