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watcherglowcloud · 2 years ago
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every now and then the autism is too strong and i Have to learn a new string of words to memorize
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beevean · 8 months ago
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I'm so happy that I get the chance to rant again, because the subreddit just gives me so much inspiration <3
I don't really care about Carmilla. She was, at the end of the day, a villain from a kid's cartoon, who wanted to conquer the world because she was just so eeeevil, with only the barest of backstories to pretend she had good motivations. In fact, it's hilarious to me that when you think about it, the N!Isaac vs. Carmilla epic fight, one of the climaxes of this show that has touted itself on being so deep and nuanced, has all the emotional depth of an average Sonic vs. Eggman boss battle: the impossibly cool superhero wants to stop the nefarious supervillain and her world domination plans.
(no shade to Sonic and Eggman, who are far better written than those two assholes could ever hope to be. you know what I mean)
yeah yeah she became what she depised, after a whole season of sitting on her feminist ass lol and then randomly going insane at the last minute. peak writing, as per usual.
No, it's as usual Lenore who has my attention.
She's the most human of the sisters, they say. And they're right. She is a terrifyingly realistic depiction of an abuser.
She's not a cackling madwoman who only serves as a caricature, and she doesn't exist only for shallow representation like Striga and Morana who have no objectives or personalities outside of each other. Lenore may not want world domination like Carmilla, but she absolutely longs for power over other people. I went about it here, how once you read between the lines, Lenore only wants to feel powerful and important, and she's willing to steep as low as she can to get her way because she folds like a coward the moment she doesn't have the upper hand. While Carmilla would just beat people for shit and giggles because look at how Evil (but in a Cool way) she is, Lenore is genuinely convinced that everything she did, all of her physical, mental, emotional and sexual abuse, it was all for a good cause, and she did nothing wrong, and anyway you were enjoying it too so what's the issue?
So yes, in this, she's human. She's a cruel, cunning, vile human like many women in the world who know that they can use their charm and take advantage of emotionally starved men to feel powerful, all while still painting themselves as cute and lovable. Her vampiric nature doesn't come into play until the very end, where she realizes (in theory) that she's nothing but a disgusting evil creature and she's doomed to always be so; but until then, you could write her as a human and little would change in her personality and the way she played with N!Hector.
And that's what makes her scary to me. Yes, Dracula and Carmilla are more dangerous on a wider scale, but we are much, much more likely to fall into the trap of one of the many Lenores around the world.
(I usually don't like making it all about gender, but Lenore's abuse of N!Hector is absolutely gendered. Her entire character revolves around what I can only call toxic femininity.)
And that's why the takes I see about her deadass trigger me, because what the fuck do you mean, she's the less cruel of the bunch????
I don't give a shit about the Lesbians, but at least they realized that what they were doing was wrong! Sure, their motivations were mainly self-centered because they didn't want to waste their existence fighting, but they also took pity on the humans they were meant to kill!
I just fought fucking farmers. Saw the fear in their eyes. Not fear of dying. Fear of not having fought. Fear of not saving their people.
It's more empathy than Lenore ever showed for N!Hector, with her filthy "you were having fun"!
"Found her strengths" yeah, instead of physically torturing N!Hector, she used manipulation, abuse, coercion, gaslighting and rape by deception to "solve his problem". Wow, such strengths, many power. And then the second things got worse for her she immediately decided to peace out of life rather than wait a few decades until N!Isaac died, sorry N!Hector if you grew to care about me but my own bratty feelings are more important. I'm sorry, I know it's in bad taste to paint suicide as the cowardly way, but it's what the story did!
The Lenore apologism creeps me out more than anything else. I can stand the Carmilla stans who think she's so cool and badass and #grrlpower. I'm annoyed but resigned to the N!Isaac stans who believe he's the most complex character of all time and forgot about all the petty murders he commited. I'm baffled by the N!Dracula stans who genuinely believe he had the right to start a mass slaughter because some peasants didn't take him seriously enough. But this rhetoric that Lenore is the least evil of the sisters, that she was ultimately a poor broken woman who only did what she thought was the right thing, terrifies me. She's a realistic, human female abuser... and just like many female abusers, her crimes get brushed off because she's cute, because she looked sad enough, because women who sexually dominate men are inherently hot. And I know that fiction is not reality and you can enjoy villains without being a bad person, but the arguments the stans use, not to paint Lenore as cool like Carmilla but to actually downplay her very realistic crimes, just hit too close to home for me.
I just wish that "human" didn't become shorthand for "good deep down", because it's not true. Sometimes a "human" villain is far more evil than a villain so shallow they don't quite feel real.
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ghostpebble · 22 days ago
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SONIC MOVIE 3 SPOILERS AND RANT BELOW :)
SOBBING. SOBBING. SOBBING. WATCHED IT YESTERDAY AND I WAS CRYING THE WHOLE MOVIE BECAUSE THEY USED IT. THEY USED LIVE AND LEARN. AND NOT JUST ONCE. A MOTIF. THEY GAVE SHADOW A LIVE AND LEARN MOTIF. I AM EXTREMELY INDESCRIBABLY HAPPY. LET'S FUCKING GO
PLUS: EGGMAN'S MOTIF!!! IT WAS HERE!! THEY USED IT!! AND IT WAS ORCHESTRAL. BEAUTIFUL.
SONIC'S ESCAPE FROM THE CITY PLAYED, TOO, BUT NOT AS CONSISTENTLY. BUT ALSO, WHOEVER WROTE IN HAVING SONIC SAY "FOLLOW ME" UH HUH. I SAW YOU. YOU DID THAT ON PURPOSE AND I LOVED IT
I WANT THE DONUT LORD SWEATER. THAT NEEDS TO BE MERCH. I DONT CARE HOW MUCH IT IS. IF SOMEONE MAKES IT DM ME I WANT ONE THANK YOU
SPEAKING OF DONUT LORD. I KNEW THEY WOULDN'T KILL HIM OUTRIGHT BUT OH MY GOD WAS I CONFLICTED. BECAUSE ON ONE HAND, OH MY GOD. SHADOW JUST BROKE LIKE ALL OF TOM'S RIBS. NO PLEASE NO. BUT ON THE OTHER HAND... OH MY GOD. YES. THIS WILL BE PERFECT FOR SONIC AND SHADOW'S PARALLEL.
AGAIN, SPEAKING OF: PARALLELS, SPECIFICALLY THE TIME HOPS IN SHADOW'S MEMORIES OF MARIA. BRUTAL. CRIED THE WHOLE TIME. THAT RECORD PLAYER ONE REALLY GOT ME. GOD DAMN. PLUS, THE PARALLELS FROM TOM'S HEART TALK THE ENTIRE MOVIE AND ESPECIALLY THE MOON SCENE. CRYING. I KNEW IT THE WHOLE TIME BUT STILL. CRYING.
ALSO, OPEN YOUR HEART. SPEAK WITH YOUR HEART. WE'RE WINNING
DAMN: WHY DID EGGMAN GET TO SAY DAMN BUT NOT SHADOW
AND ALSO, NO FAKER! THERE WAS THE CONVO ABOUT WHY DO YOU LOOK LIKE ME, BUT NO FAKER :(( MAYBE NEXT TIME
I MIGHT BE REMEMBERING WRONG, IT MIGHTVE BEEN FROM THE KNUCKLES SERIES I WATCHED BEFORE, BUT OH MY GOD. THE WACHOWSKI KIDS' BEDS. KNUCKLES AND SONIC IN THEIR CARS ARE CUTE, BUT OH MY GOD TAILS AND HIS AIRPLANE.
OSSIE!! MORE OSSIE!! LOVE OSSIE. THANK YOU
CHAO GARDEN! AGENT STONE BEING A BADASS CONSISTENTLY. I LOVED AGENT STONE THIS WHOLE MOVIE. HE REALLY GOT A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT. LOVE HIM. ALSO A LITTLE SAD SONIC DIDN'T END UP WEARING A SPEED OR DARK CHAO MASK TO LOOK LIKE HIMSELF OR SHADOW, MISSED POTENTIAL :( STILL FUNNY
WALTERS' DEATH WAS UNEXPECTED TO ME NGL, JUST BECAUSE IT WAS SO ABRUPT. LIKE... OKAY. I GUESS. COOL. MAN'S DEAD.
THE MARIA BEING PULLED BY SHADOW ON SKATES. EVERYTHING MARIA. EVEN WITHOUT THE ILLNESS, THAT WAS THE PERFECT MARIA AND SHADOW DUO. YES
TBH, I LIKED THE GERALD AND IVO DUO. IT WAS SILLY. THEY WERE THE COMEDY IN AN OTHERWISE VERY HEAVY MOVIE STILL SOMEWHAT AIMED AT KIDS. SOME THINGS HAD ME LAUGHING BECAUSE IT WAS SO WRONG, LIKE THE SPANKING AND HOW GERALD JUST GOT ZAPPED LIKE A FLY IN AN ELECTRIC SWATTER. ALSO, EASY TO EXPLAIN GERALD'S AGE, HE KEPT LICKING SHADOW'S QUILL, WHICH IS LIKELY WHAT KEPT HIM ALIVE SO LONG. SO YEAH. I DIDNT THINK IT WAS BAD, MAYBE A LITTLE WEIRD, BUT THATS THE ROBOTNIK FAMILY'S THING
SHADOW'S "BOO." ENOUGH SAID
DID SHADOW REALLY HAVE TO SLAM SONIC'S FACE INTO THE GLASS LIKE THAT LMAO
ALSO SHADOW KICKED TAILS!!! THE STREAK CONTINUES
IT IS NOT LOST ON ME THAT SONIC'S POV BEGINS AT HIS B-EARTH-DAY PARTY. FUN REFERENCE TO GENERATIONS
LIVE AND LEARN. STILL HAPPY. JUST WANTED TO SAY IT AGAIN. THE WHOLE DOUBLE SUPER SCENE AND THEIR OWN FIGHT AND THE FIGHT AGAINST THE BOTS. EVERYTHING. PERFECTION. SOBBED. THE SUN RISE AND LOVE STILL EXISTING EVEN AFTER THE SOURCE IS GONE LIKE THE LIGHT. STILL SOBBING
THE WAY THEY HAD ROBOTNIK LEFT ON THE STATION LEAVES ME TO BELIEVE THEY LEFT IT OPEN ENDED ON IF HE LIVED SO THAT JIM CARREY HAD THE OPTION TO COME BACK, AND THATS FINE BY ME :)
PISSED ON THE MOON AND THE BROADCAST?? AND IT WAS A BROADCAST FOR STONE SPECIFICALLY??? WE ARE SO FUCKING BACK
SHADOW'S INHIBITORS. YES. HIM FALLING TO EARTH, ALTHOUGH DIFFERENT FROM THE GAME. YES. YES. YES.
1ST POST CREDIT OF METAL SONIC AND THE MISS AMY ROSE. HELL YEAH. IM SO HYPED. METAL LOOKS ABSOLUTELY AMAZING AND AMY IS SO CUTE. WONDERING HOW THAT'LL LEAD INTO THE NEXT MOVIE THOUGH?? WHO KNOWS
2ND POST CREDIT WITH PARALLELS?? WITH SHADOW LANDING ON EARTH IN A FIELD ALL ALONE FOR A SECOND TIME, THIS TIME MAYBE AMNESIAC AND HAVING TO ADJUST TO EARTH AGAIN?? OH MY GOD?? I WAS SO HAPPY THEY DIDN'T END UP JUST KILLING HIM OFF, ALTHOUGH IT WOULDVE BEEN REALLY GOOD. IF HE HAD DIED THOUGH, HE PROBABLY WOULDVE GOTTEN A LAST WORD IN TO MARIA ANYWAY, BUT STILL GLAD HE'S IN IT TO WIN IT
PLUS SHADOW SPIN OFF SERIES!! AND NEXT MOVIE IN 2027. THANK YOU KEANU FOR MAKING OUR FIRST MOVIE DREAMS COME TRUE, THANK YOU SONIC MOVIE TEAM, THANK YOU ALL CAST
THIS WAS MY TED TALK THANK YOU FOR READING
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madychi · 8 months ago
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Back at it again! Smokes relationship with the Chaos Council in Tails Prime!
Next up is the man himself, Mr. Dr. Eggman!
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The two of them can engage in playful and witty banter. Mr. Dr. Eggman mainly rants about his life, which is always ironic to Smoke since he’s literally the prisoner.
And yes, Mr. Dr. Eggman did let Smoke take his job for a day.
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msrosey · 14 days ago
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No Such Thing as a Friendly Ghost
Rant on the differences between Movie-verse! Shadow and SA2! Shadow real quick because I am suffering! Suffering!
So Movie-verse! Shadow is so absolutely grief-stricken it was killing me to watch.
Like. SA2! Shadow was grieving, but he was driven towards revenge from pretty much the beginning (adjusted memories non-withstanding). He was the one who went to Eggman when he was freed, he was the one who set up the events of the game. He had agency.
Movie-verse!Shadow...doesn't. He gets woken up and immediately just wants to get away. No blowing up the base, no searching for answers from the guys still in the glass watching room, just defending himself against the armed guys trying to keep him in and then immediately bouncing. And when they chase them, he fights some more - he doesn't go looking for it. He even says it to Sonic - "Why can't you people leave me alone?"
And he goes straight back to the old G.U.N. facility. Like, it's so clear he had no clue what to do! He just sits in the wreckage of the only home he ever knew, with no clear next steps, just. There. Gerald is the one to tell him what to do. Gerald is the one who pushes him towards to revenge, who tells him its the only way. And Shadow just...follows?
In the game it was clear that Gerald had to mess with Shadow's memories to make him think that this is what he wanted, what Maria would have wanted. In the movie it's clear that Shadow is just looking for someone to tell him what to do. He even joins Agent Stone for guac, just cause Gerald said to stay with him! That's unthinkable for Game! Shadow or IDW! Shadow, both of which are big ignore-plan-jump-into-the-fight characters. Movie-verse! Shadow is strangely, like, innocent?
Like, Shadow is grieving, so badly, but its devastating because he also doesn't seem to realize. Like there's this underlying confusion when he's not actively fighting, and it's clear he has no frame of reference for anything he's feeling? It's like if Sonic had lost Longclaw and then never been exposed to the Wachowskis or Green Hills, just festered in his own guilt until coming across Knuckles or the echidna tribe.
AH and this is already so long but guys, can we talk about how the moment when Shadow starts to realize Maria would not want revenge and he no longer had someone telling him what to do, he like. Immediately tried to die. Several times.
He taunts Sonic to finish him off, despite him having the upper hand multiple times in the battle! He returned to the Eclipse Cannon alone to keep it from blowing up!
Like, yes the latter was the heroic things to do, but there's something so self-sacrificing about both, especially when he could have gotten Sonic's help with the ship? The rest of Team Sonic's help. This Shadow has (somehow) innate Chaos teleportation abilities, you're telling me he couldn't just teleport Sonic back to the ship and get things fixed with Knuckles and Tails' all together? But he doesn't even try, and it. feels like it's all tied back into this intense guilt and barely hidden desire to just not be there anymore.
Also I just can't get the image of him in the blown up base out of my head. He's just...standing there. Walking the halls. Haunting it.
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And I know Knuckle's mention of Casper being scary is largely comic relief, but he has a point. Someone who doesn't care about their own life anymore, who stays replaying awful memories trapped in their own head, and who sees no future where they're in is terrifying.
They can't be friendly, or kind. Not even to themselves.
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playertwotails · 6 months ago
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I have a very funny idea about Sonic that's gonna require me to go into a bit of a tangent on a funny personal story for it to make sense but stay with me. (I do not personally have any memory of this story but my mom likes to retell it sometimes cause it's funny)
So to the story time. When I was a toddler my parents were worried I might be mute or partially so because I would either not talk at all or just say one word and no complete sentences. This kept up until I was 2 years old and after taking me to specialists one finally realized there was nothing actually wrong with me but my older sibling was talking for me so I just didn't. (Sidenote, my older sibling is not much older than me, a bit over a year apart so it's all toddler v toddler at these ages, just saying this so no one thinks my sibling is like mean or something, they were about as much of a baby as I was )
Fast forward after the "diagnosis" and I'm still 2 not talking and up until this point my older sibling has been getting away with stuff cause I wouldn't talk.
Well one day our mom comes back to me crying and my sibling not saying what happened and our mom out of habit just starts asking me "Oh what happened?" She was not expecting a response but according to her I pointed to my sibling and said in a very clear sentence "They hit me with a broom!!" To which my sibling in the shock of the moment just said "THEY CAN TALK??!!"
(Apparently baby me had impeccable comedic timing on when to snitch on my sibling)
Moving on from personal story back to my obsession with the Sonic series. So I'm a big fan of mute/selectively mute younger Sonic, it's *chefs kiss* for me.
I had a funny scenario in mind where Sonic has been battling Eggman for a while and Eggman is well aware that Sonic does not talk. And Eggman has a new cannon fodder accomplice in what ever new scheme he's got cooking up for the week. And he tells this new meat shield not to bother really talking with Sonic cause he's not gonna say anything back.
Maybe this is sometime after Sonic got Tails and they were fighting Eggman and his new chump of the week. Eggman and Sonic are alone and Eggman starts ranting about how he was going to 100% betray his new sucker of a partner in like the next hour. Cause to Eggman, Sonic is pretty good sound board since he doesn't talk back so why not tell him his petty schemes.
Cue a bit later they're all back together all out brawl style and Tails gets hurt or captured or something just enough to piss off Sonic and immediately Sonic turns to the new Eggman stooge and just goes "Eggman said he's gonna betray you here in like 5 mins."
Eggman is too shocked to deny it, just immediately shouts "SINCE WHEN DO YOU TALK!!!????!!!"
Which not a great defense against the betrayal accusations and Eggman now has a new problem of fighting a, as of 5 seconds ago, new enemy.
Idk I was just thinking about the story my mom likes to tell again and brain rot connected the dots back to Sonic lol.
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marionedde · 11 months ago
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heads up this is a rant about sonadow (positive)
Starting to get into Sonic lately and I’ve learned about generations, and my mind is blown by the fact it’s literally called
SONIC X SHADOW
it’s like naming and episode of a show after a ship- oh wait that already happened in South Park nvm
but still. how on earth were the developers just like “hmm yeah a good name for this would be uh…like, Sonic and shadow…umm… ah fuck it well call it the ship lol no one is gonna read into that”
I’m sorry but fans will read into shadow making eye contact with Sonic for 0.5 seconds you think they won’t find this interesting?
sega foh with that cmon
I mean unless it was very very intentional
the fact that in Sonic prime there is a (spoilers) scene where Sonic PLOWS THROUGH A VOID LIKE A BULLET AFTER SHADOW, obviously shaken up at the thought of him dying, swooping him up like a bride and proceeding to flirt-fight for the next 5 minutes while a GIANT SPACESHIP was headed DIRECTLY FOR AN RNTIRE SOCIETY and my man did NOT break eye contact with shadow the entire time. He was very aware of eggmans ship and didn’t even look worried about the place he was just about to conquer, while three minutes ago he was shaking in his kicks about shadow dying????
but obviously no homo I mean like /j
update
the ending of Sonic prime was WILD
ok so bros desperately speeding through space time with his rival in his arms about to die, fueled by the need to keep him alive and you CAN HEAR THE DRIVE IN HIS VOICE TO KEEP HIM FROM KKICKING THE BUCKET
like that’s just flat out lgbtq+
SEGA YOU CANT HIDE FROM ME
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dr-spectre · 10 days ago
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Im gonna be for real with you guys, when you stop getting deep in the roots of a fandom and stop giving a fuck about other people, you become so much more happier.
I feel happier as a Sonic fan when I stopped watching those 5 hour videos about how Sonic Frontiers is "fundamentally a bad game" and how "the story is the worst thing humanity has ever written" and "wahhh the fandom is toxic wahhh!!!! People can't handle criticism wahh!!!" Bitch they can, you're just presenting your points in a fucking shit way that makes people feel bad about themselves and you don't leave the door open for a healthy conversation. If you spend a large chunk of your "critique" on a video game talking about how toxic a fandom is then I'm sorry but you cannot complain about the fandom talking shit about you.
COUGH COUGH!!!
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There's a difference between "oh i thought the story of Sonic Frontiers was a bit underwhelming because the side characters don't do much and I wish Sage and Eggman's relationship was more fleshed out. Like maybe if they added more scenes of them together it would better and make the original ending more impactful."
Verses "Frontiers fundamentally has a bad story and I'm gonna spend the next 5 hours shitting on it and nitpicking every little thing about it."
I'm not saying that you cannot be negative, I'm saying that if you are gonna be negative, don't be a cunt about it and feel like you're above anyone else. If you wanna rant then present your points in a funny way and make sure people who read or watch your points know that you're just rambling and ranting first. If you're gonna make a critique, you have to understand and acknowledge WHY people who disagree with you enjoy the thing. You cannot just constantly shit on something like the video game took your wife and kids and punched you in the balls man.
I have my own issues with Frontiers story and Ian Flynn's writing, but I'm not gonna be a cunt about how I say it. I've met people who like Amy's interpretation in Frontiers and they've explained why they like her in that game. They enjoy the more mature and mellowed Amy who isn't a hyper annoying starstruck woman. However, for me personally, after replaying Adventure 1 and 2 with retranslation mods, i've grown to really like Amy and i prefer when she's energetic and angry and all of that stuff. Plus i don't like the current voice direction so it makes her writing a little bit worse for me, she sounds like she's 35 instead of being a teen or young adult, but i could just play with the Japanese voices on if i wanted to so it's not a huge deal that makes Frontiers' story an "objective mess."
I think that life becomes more fun when you sit down with a piece of media, gather your own thoughts about it and maybe discuss it online in a fair honest manner. And you only seek out other opinions from people you actually wanna have a healthy discussion and debate with. Watching those several hour long videos about video games where most of it is just nitpicks and constant "why?" questions to every LITTLE FUCKING THING makes my brain wanna erupt into flames. I could apply the "oh why this? Why that? Why did this?" To every single story in existence if i wanted to. I could do it to make a story seem worser than it is.
If you wanna watch fair and honest reviews about Sonic media then watch videos by Sam Procrastinates and bickuribox12. They both address their positives and negatives on things and do fairly criticize media that they review without being overly dramatic, melancholy, and unfair.
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hall0wedwyrm · 8 months ago
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Basically, TLDR i saw a fake screenshot on TikTok showing Amy in the Knuckles series and it got me thinking about how she... doesn't quite fit in the movieverse yet...
So here is my long rant about why it would be bad for her to join in Movie 3 and she should be saved for a future installment.
to preface: I DO NOT HATE AMY OR HAVE ANYTHING AGAINST HER. I think shes wonderful and shes literally a main character so shes very important obviously.
First, the elephant in the room. Shadow the Hedgehog. One of, if not THE most, complex character in the Sonic franchise, let alone in the main expanded cast. Having to introduce, and illude to, aspects of Shadow’s backstory (his relationship with Maria and Gerald, The ARK, how he was made, and the fallout) and his future (returning with amnesia in his next appearance, potentially introducing the Black Arms and some of the Heroes and Shad05 story beats that are important who he becomes) in about an hour and a half to 2 hours. I just don’t see how it would be a good idea to introduce a core member of Sonic’s friends into the movie series when she could be introduced later so that Shadow has more of a time to shine, and Amy can too later on.
Historically, Amy’s talk to Shadow to remind him of his promise to Maria has been filled in by another character when the plot called for it. In Sonic X, during its own adaptation of SA2, Chris spoke to Shadow to try and help him remember his real purpose and talk sense into him. While it didn't exactly work out, it shows that this role could be interchangable in SEGA’s eyes. I propose a similar story, using Tom’s niece Jojo. Being a character who is around Maria’s age and doesn’t have a complete character behind her as of now, this could be a more meaningful way for Shadow to realise his purpose and remember his promise. Hearing the words from someone who is like Maria (a young girl who cares about Earth) would be more impactful to him. I can see any human character taking up this role though, but Jojo would be the best candidate, due to her simiarities to Maria.
However, while not introducing another new character could be good for not overcrowding the movie with new arcs and introductions involving them, I could see this working for one character; Rouge the Bat. She was introduced along with Shadow in SA2, which is immediately a good sign, as their plots intertwine with each other. They both work with Eggman, until they turn the focus on saving the world. Rouge is one of Shadow’s closest companions going forward, and has her own arc too. She is the one who frees Shadow in Heroes, and rekindles their friendship there.
Rouge also could connect back to the previous movie. Being a jewel thief at heart, she goes after the Master Emerald, but in Movieverse its destroyed and the Chaos Emeralds are retrieved from it. She is established as being the Rival to Knuckles, and this could help him fill a new purpose on Earth (cos lets be honest… he didn’t really do that in his show-) of becoming a protector of the Chaos Emeralds instead or something. The main part of SA2 is about the Chaos Emeralds so this makes sense. Refinding the Emeralds or going to the right spot to use them and such but thats besides the point.
Another huge loss of introducing Amy in Sonic 3 is missing out on how she was introduced in the franchise. In Sonic CD, she was introduced along side another key character in the franchise; Metal Sonic. She saw a blue hero coming to help her, believing it to be Sonic, but turned out to be Metal instead. Having Amy navigate the trio around and give them the lore would make a lot of sense, given the way that others were introduced in the second installment.
Its also appropriate for this introduction too, since Metal Sonic is the perfect equal to Sonic, compared to Shadow's unintentional equal. After Eggman's failure of using Shadow, creating Metal is the next best thing. Whatever the story is with Metal, whether its faithful to Sonic CD or is twisted to fit the Movieverse story.
Now... I think introducing Amy could also mess up a lot of aspects of what the movieverse has set up for the stories of the characters. I 100% know that they will try and pull off a romance for Sonic and Amy, since its one of her main character arcs and for the longest time and its kind of (??) the main romance of the franchise. BUT according to the Sonic Dream Team character profiles, and the ending of Frontiers, she's drifted away from that interest in him... so to go back to that would be a really weird choice. I know its a different universe, but if SEGA is trying to steer away from that, then why would they go back on it?
PLUS I think it would be a huge detriment to both of their characters. Movie Sonic is much different to the Sonic's of the past, as he has all of the charms of Modern Sonic (his quick wit and charming personality) but hes younger and less experienced and jumps head first without thinking because he doesn't know what to actually do. He was thrown into the role of the hero in the first movie because the place he grew up was being threatened and he refused to run away. Amy being introduced as solely 'the love interest' also does a disservice to her character. She's strong willed, and unafraid to stand up to Eggman and any other wrong doer. She's also rather hot headed but still kind and cares for those who matter. (this is also part of a larger discussion i wrote about how in canon Sonic and Amy wouldn't work out because they want different things and are very different people but thats for a different day and/or if anyone is interested). Sonic immediately switching to a head-over-heels guy would be a complete ruin of his character built up, while also immediately destroying Amy's.
Another problem is that there isn't a focus on romance of any kind in the story so far, and introducing it could mess up what they have going. The Movie's are clearly about familial love and growing up and filling the boots of a hero. It is not a story of romance in any way. The first movie was friendship, the second was about family bonds and making new friends, and the third is most likely about trust or learning to trust again (Shadow has to trust Sonic to save the world). It'll also be a huge moment for Sonic's character; Meeting someone who is not just against him and Knuckles and Tails, but against the world itself, someone who is so hellbent on revenge for the one he lost, and how hes going to over come that WHILE meeting his new love interest... is a huuuuge task to pull off and the two stories don't really mix imo. Plus even in SA2 the extent of the romance is just 'Amy mistaking Shadow for Sonic and then she thinks its awkward and gets embarrassed and thats how they meet for the first time'.
So yeah this could be done much better if it's something thats going to happen, and it would be better left for a 4th or separate installment. Having a mini romance arc along with the Metal Sonic stuff works better because the introduction of a potential romance was worked more into Sonic CD than anything.
Im still gonna be pissed off if they do a romance, because Sonic the Hedgehog has never been about romance... but its also a multimillion kids film franchise and its bound to happen, especially when its the main male and main female character. Just know i won't enjoy it lol.
IF they do Amy... I want tarot cards AND the Piko Piko Hammer and if you take either of them away i will be causing problems (on purpose). If you give her the original outfit +11 points and if you make up an outfit whatever as long as it works and its cute (I'm partial to Dungarees myself).
anyway yeah id like to see other opinions on this... maybe some other ways it could work out? or how else she could be introduced? or maybe even of she could be in Sonic 3 but idk what they would do for her to make her not get sidelined or overtake the plot...?
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skaruresonic · 8 months ago
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what were your favorite things about starline before he was ruined
Oh, God, Starline. ;A; How I miss the poor bastard.
Beyond his design, my favorite things about him included his foppishness, his showmanship, his meticulousness, his (relative) calm demeanor, his "comedic intern" angle, and his devotion to licking egg-shaped boot.
Oh, and the most prominent aspect of his character, the linchpin on which all else rests: the simpery.
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I will give credit where credit is due, his simpery of Eggman coupled with his more cautious and lowkey nature (at least, compared to Eggman) offered a genuinely new and refreshing dynamic at the time. It didn't seem to come with strings attached as it usually does.
I also used to like his penchant for unintentional comedy. It seemed to be the same flavor of comedy with which they tinge some of Eggman's character.
Granted, Starline was probably always meant to be something of a buttmonkey, but later issues had him ping-pong between being Better Than Eggman(tm) and a buffoon. The constant switch made it difficult to fully invest in him in either case, because one minute we were meant to consider him a srs bsns mastermind and laugh at his failures the next. And not in the balanced way Eggman's humor generates; there were times I genuinely couldn't tell whether we were supposed to root for him or not.
And then, of course, he got crushed under rocks. Big oofed.
Starline used to be funny. Watching him rant and rave? Cry tears of joy? Make an uwu face as Rough and Tumble embarrass him in front of his idol? Funny, because it subverted his otherwise suave Bond villain image, and because you knew that eventually Eggman would crush his windpipe like a squeaky toy. Selling your soul to the devil can only end in tragedy. It filled you with a morbid sort of joy and a dark anticipation as you waited to see how bright this dumpster fire would blaze.
This was one pathetic meow-meow of a man, strange yet oddly compelling. Shame his delusions of grandeur stole away the entertaining aspects of his personality for a more boring, straight-laced character. Even bigger shame that we were supposed to pretend he never meant anything to begin with.
That's not to say Starline could never have had character development, nor that he should have remained a static character. Just as Sonic exerts a positive influence on others, show us how Eggman exerts a twisted influence. Make Starline's devotion to Eggman even unhealthier and fucked-up than it already was. Not in a "I can fix you" kind of way, but in an "I will light myself on fire to keep you warm" kind of way. To the point of self-destruction. That seemed to be the logical direction for such a character, anyway.
But nah, they had to drag us along Starline's unimpressive journey to strike out on his own. Which, like... He stole 90% of Eggman's shit anyway, so how effective was he really? And even if the whole point was that Eggman made him and he's nothing without his idol, then why did the book give him two mini-series? Has he been mentioned even once in the book since his death? Somehow, I very much doubt it.
I don't want to get into it with his creation of Surge and Kit because I'd rather pretend they don't exist, thanks. Yes, I'm aware Starline was originally conceived as their creator, but I think Flynn should have caught on that his character had changed. Realized that trying to cram him back into the original mold would only break him.
And you know what. Even after having suffered 30 issues where Starline was fucking insufferable with his whole "I'll surpass Eggman" schtick, I still felt sad for his passing.
To make matters worse, I felt foolish for my emotional investment, because dammit, I guess I was hoping his story would have culminated in something more substantial than "his favorite flowers are forget-me-nots (snicker)."
Now that I've learned that IDW can drop even their most popular characters in a heartbeat, I'm never making the mistake of even accidentally becoming invested in them again. They're not going to bother developing them or even give them a proper sendoff, so why should I continue reading?
Fs in the chat for my boy. They did him so dirty.
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crusherthedoctor · 8 months ago
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THANK YOU, I'm so tired of everyone saying you have to be dark and edgy to be interesting!
It's ironic, isn't it? We complain about the way media is simplified elsewhere on the web, and yet this place is no better when you get down to it. But because it's one way on here instead of the other, that makes it okay. Somehow.
I take issue with characters who are meant to be a piece of work being diluted as much as the next guy. I don't rant about Eggman's villainy being overlooked, and not being seen as worthy of being the main villain of a more serious plot, for nothing. And while I'm not as devoted to Shadow as a character, I recognize that his rough edges ought to be acknowledged instead of omitted. And so on.
But how Tumblr can't recognize that it can go the other way as well, and just as often, is beyond me. We've already seen the results many times before with Sonic alone: it's turned IDW Sonic into a cynical person's idea of what heroism is, it's turned the zombot arc's reputation among the fandom into that of an emotionally gripping masterpiece because it's nothing but endless suffering and failure until the very end, and it's turned speculation for the third movie into a vocal demand to see Maria's death onscreen and in complete gorey detail, because that'll make everyone finally take the blue hedgehog franchise seriously.
But it's not just Sonic, is it? It's affected many other IPs as well, and not just obscure ones: think back to how many iconic characters over the last decade, who are known and beloved for being idealistic and selfless, something to aspire to, have been written as bitter, disgraced, useless shells of their former selves. Because the real world is oh so cruel, therefore our heroes also have to be cruel. All of them.
There's a growing pressure to make things edgy for the sake of it, even when the source material isn't meant to go too hard on that angle, because it's apparently more real that way. There's a pressure to make your relationship dysfunctional and volatile for the sake of it, even when the characters involved don't really suit it, because otherwise it's "just" fluff, and will always be "just" fluff, whatever else you do with it be damned. There's a growing pressure to have as many taboo interests as possible, lest you be seen as a puritan and a Literal Frollo, even if you're perfectly accepting of people with unconventional tastes and don't immediately assume they must literally be a _____ in real life because the work they consume happens to include _____.
I hate this overcorrection. I really do. And I'll bitch about it as many times as I need to. People involved with the official media will continue missing the point as long as the loudest voices keep failing to address the real, central issue: that bad writing is bad writing, and OoC is OoC, no matter what direction it leans towards.
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mathewryf · 9 months ago
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A rant about Prime Sonic and Perfect Chaos
Okay I'm fucking losing my mind right now because of all of those Nine posts, and there's something I need to state again.
The version of Sonic that Sonic Prime presented flies completely in the face of the Sonic that we used to have, and that ending is where things make it REALLY apparent.
Regardless of the whole continuity problem that official channels have presented, there's a fundamental misunderstanding of how Sonic does things that makes Nines fate upsetting.
To diplay what I mean, let me go over a specific scene. You could even call this my "One Heroic Scene".
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Let's talk about this scene from Sonic Adventure, the leadup to the final fight against Perfect Chaos.
From the beginning of this game, Sonic has been fighting Chaos, and up until the last chunk of his story he's assumed it's just been some sort of mindless beast under Eggman's control. Regardless of how many setbacks there were, he fought chaos off with no qualms.
He, along with the rest of the cast, gradually learn more about Chaos through Tikal's visions, and he eventually pieces together how Chaos came to be so violent. Sonic doesn't encounter Chaos again after he gets that information, at least not until it snatches the last Chaos Emerald in the Mystic Ruins Jungle. After that point it floods Station Square, completely destorying the city.
That's about where this scene picks up. Tikal shows up, begging Sonic to seal Chaos away in the Master Emerald once more... and Sonic blatantly refuses. Knowing what he knows at that point, he refuses to seal Chaos away again because it won't actually solve anything.
Chaos would have still been in turmoil.
Chaos would have still been in pain.
Chaos would have continued to suffer. Further, Chaos would cause more suffering the next time the Master Emerald broke (and there definitely would have been a next time, even without SA2).
Whether Sonic knew about the whole "positive/negative energy" thing or not, he had the conviction to resolve the situation then and there. More importantly, he chose to forgo the easier route of sealing Chaos away for the sake of sparing it that cruelty.
Even though Chaos had lashed out and caused so much pain, Sonic was still willing to take the harder path for the chance that the turmoil in Chaos's heart could be dispelled.
He did all that for someone that he considered his enemy, and he fought his heart out to reach that goal.
SO, if he would do that for Chaos, who was at best a stranger, and at worst his enemy...
Why the hell wouldn't he do it for Nine, whom he considers a friend?
That's why I can't stand the ending of Prime. If Sonic in Prime had been written closer to the version that Sonic Team envisioned, he would NOT have left Nine alone in the Grim.
Because leaving Nine in the Grim wouldn't have changed anything.
And yet Prime Sonic did that.
He left Nine's heart in turmoil.
Nine is isolated, alone, and still in pain.
And thanks to the show not getting a further season, he'll probably be left in that state forever.
Before anyone comes to me about Nine getting what he deserved.
I need to remind you that Chaos leveled an entire metropolitain city.
Chaos would deserve being sealed away, too. But Sonic disagreed with that because Chaos didn't deserve to be left suffering.
Ultimately I don't think Sonic would have cared all that much about Nine trying to destroy multiple realities, either, once he finally got through to him. That's still a hurt kid at the end of the day.
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theombrefamily · 8 months ago
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"HIIII You know how I told you about how you all did Sonadow WR0NG?!
Well I made you all some fanart 😁🔴🔵"
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"I hope you all enjoy it 😈"
"Starline and Eggman next 😼"
"Please send help she's been ranting about the Sega hedgehogs for days..."
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solarpunkani · 2 years ago
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Solarpunk Ideals and Aesthetics in Sonic Colors
--according to one Solarpunk Sonic fan specifically but dude trust me on this.
This post is the sequel/follow up to my previous post on Sonic the Hedgehog (the character) and Solarpunk Ideals, feel free to give that a read for some context! But for a basic run-down--Sonic the Hedgehog (the Dude) embodies several core Solarpunk tenants in his personality, Dr. Eggman is the antithesis to Solarpunk both in personality and in resulting actions, and I'm such a big nerd I had to split this post into 2 parts and they're still long as hell.
Special reminder: I am a Sonic nerd, have been for 10+ years now. I also have Write Too Much disease. I am going to talk. A lot. Prepare yourselves.
Special reminder part 2: Sonic the Hedgehog is not a perfect franchise, and it's owned by a corporation in the capitalistic hellscape we call life and I promise you I am aware of that. I'm not saying SEGA is Solarpunk, I am saying that parts of their franchise have Solarpunk elements. If I post this and someone skips this paragraph to instead rant at me about some unrelated shit that SEGA the Corporation Guys did That One Time Months/Years Ago I may snap. You have been warned.
Shout out to @modern-solarpunk for being a beta reader for this! Thank you for making sure I was actually being legible and coherent with this.
Let's dive right in.
Sonic Colors Let's Go Let's Go
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Sonic Colors came out on the Nintendo Wii in 2010, with an alternate version made for the Nintendo DS. I’ve only played the Wii version, so we’re going to talk about the Wii version. We later got an 11 minute 2D animated short about the game, to celebrate the release of Sonic Colors: Ultimate (which was basically a remake for the Switch). Basic plot synopsis below.
Dr. Eggman claims that he’s turned over a new leaf and has created the Egg Planet Park to make up for his past deeds. Sonic is inherently suspicious, so he and Tails sneak in and start busting up Eggman’s latest evil plot--tying down planets and kidnapping alien creatures called Wisps and harnessing their powers to charge up a mind control ray and make Earth the star attraction of his space theme park. Sonic and Tails promptly set about stopping him, destroying the Eggman robots on each planet and freeing as many wisps as they can while they do so. Feel free to check out this video to see all the cutscenes.
“Ani, what’s Solarpunk about that? A space theme park made by chaining down planets is already pretty unrealistic--” let me get there.
First off, the storyline has resistance and anti-industrialization baked into it. In a sense, we’ve got anti-colonialism too (though by all means DO NOT take this as me comparing the immeasurable harms done to colonized peoples by their oppressors to little fictional alien dudes getting their juices sucked out. But Eggman literally is colonizing several planets). Since Sonic is fighting a villain who’s trying to turn all of space into his robotic wonderland, we are too--and we see this guy as the villain, since he is, which can make people think about how these themes play into other aspects of life. Or at least I did in the fifth grade. Bear with me here.
If you don’t wanna watch 50+ minutes of cutscenes originating from 2010s-era script writing, let’s look at a quote that I feel boils the solarpunk-adjacent parts of the storyline to its bare essentials.
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In the 11 minute animated short, Rise of the Wisps, there’s a bit more. First off, we see the aliens resisting a bit more--in fact, there’s a group of little Wisp freedom fighters working to save other wisps before they’re… harvested, I guess is the word for it.
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Do they have names? No. But in Sonic Colors we don’t even really see any Wisps with characterizing traits aside from Yacker, so I think having the next few be a band of freedom fighters is pretty cool.
Asides from admiring the visual style of this short (because man Sonic in 2D animation just feels right to me), there’s a quote that I feel fits the Solarpunk outlook on community and problem solving.
“When the problem seems too big to solve on your own, you do what you can. And maybe ask for a little help from your friends. Right?”
Like if I put that in the middle of any other Solarpunk post no one would bat an eye but I’m literally quoting Sonic the Hedgehog here.
The series as a whole, especially Sonic Colors in my eyes, is imbued with hope and standing strong in the face of difficult challenges--leaning on your friends for help when you need to accomplish bigger and better things than you can do on your own. In Sonic, that means defeating giant mech bots or mutated lizards trying to crash land on Earth or purify the world of an out of control zombot virus. For us? That can be restoring a native landscape, vouching for clean energy, starting a community garden, and fighting for what we believe in.
Now let’s talk aesthetics
The Aesthetics of Sonic Color
So we’ve got 5 planets (Sweet Mountain, Starlight Carnival, Planet Wisp, Aquarium Park, and Asteroid Coaster) and two parts of the main park (Tropical Resort and Terminal Velocity) that are playable zones in Sonic Colors. But what’s the most Solarpunky area to me?
Planet Wisp
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Planet Wisp is described in the fandom wiki as “a beautiful natural planet full of vegetation and tall trees. The Area takes place during daytime, though stars can also be seen in the sky.” Another page on Planet Wisp says “when seen from space, it heavily resembles Earth,” but its not very big--described as “tiny” in the game. However, it has a wealth of “untouched, unspoiled and unmatched natural beauty”, full of blue-gray rocky canyons and mountains with valleys and fields, rock pillars, etc. covered by plants. The trees are extremely tall, with platform-tops and no other main branches. There’s also lakes and creeks. There’s a minimal level of urbanized civilization--mostly tree slides made from branches and roots and platforms and such. Overall, simplistic stuff--”its untouched nature being largely preserved by the Wisps’ harmonious way of living in nature.” which sounds great! Except this is before interference by Doctor Eggman. Afterwards, “Planet Wisp has large amounts of factories under construction, tearing apart the original plant life and rock and replacing it with red metal.” Eggman Empire-style structures like towers, half-pipes, and roads are clustered around the landscape, and there’s an unknown purple liquid polluting several bodies of water. So! Not all that great! 
‘Ani why do you find that Solarpunk?’ two reasons
A: We the player are literally here to defy the people building the factories so the planet can continue to be full of vegetation and home to its native creatures.
B: it’s pretty, okay? It’s fukin cool.
This map is so cool it was also featured in Sonic Generations (2011) and Team Sonic Racing (2019), so let’s find some pics!
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But most of all, the music, you guys.
And here are some other versions of these tracks from subsequent games (Sonic Generations, Sonic Colors Ultimate) and tracks inspired by the Planet Wisp location (Team Sonic Racing)
These tracks. Especially the original ones, but oh my god these tracks. I cannot emphasize enough I feel like. These tracks feel like you uncorked a bottle labeled ‘hope, positivity, relief’ and put it to your ear. And what is Solarpunk about if not hope.
Speaking of Solarpunk and being about hope, let’s talk about the main theme for the Sonic Colors game--Reach for the Stars. If you couldn’t tell by the title alone, this song is also the embodiment of hope--in more of an upbeat, ‘we’ve got this together!’ kind of vibe, but it’s still important to me and also feels Solarpunky (at least Solarpunk-adjacent) so let’s talk about it!
(I ran out of audios I can add so we're getting Youtube Videos instead)
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“I’m gonna reach for the stars, although they look pretty far! I’m gonna find my own way, and take a chance on today!” - as Solarpunks, we are reaching for the stars (the sun in particular I suppose) to find hope in a brighter future and share it with others. We’ve all got our own way of doing it, with solutions varying based on individual situations as well as what community efforts can yield, but even still we are daring to dream of a brighter future than the one most often visualized in popular culture. No matter what, we’re gonna keep striving to make changes and create a brighter world for ourselves and those who come after us.
“Just take a chance, we’ll do it right again (we’re gonna reach for the stars!) Just take my hand, we’ll take a chance tonight, reach for the stars, tonight!”
You know what else Solarpunks go crazy about? Community building! You know what else Sonic Colors covers musically? Community building! Or, more so, being open to other people’s viewpoints and communicating to resolve problems, but still!
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Now keep in mind, this song is literally based around Sonic and Tails trying to communicate with an alien via a translator, but my point still stands let’s look at some lyrics.
“I’ve been here before, and I know that we must stand up tall! I’m not scared to ask when I’m not sure; we can overcome it all!” - what is community if not being able to lean on other people? Community support, mutual aid, working together to solve problems big and small, Solarpunks have got it!
“If you could tell me how to lend a hand, I would try to understand! No words could say how much I care! Together we can take a stand!” 
And let us not forget the refrain! “Speaking from nowhere else except your heart, you’ll never know if you don’t try! Listen and see the voice I carry with me: ‘Speak with your heart! Speak with your heart!’” In my humble Solarpunk opinion, this feels pretty solarpunk. One of the main things about being Solarpunk--at least, in my experience--is unabashed enthusiasm about our ideas and the colorful sustainable future we’re envisioning! Encouragement from others is what brought me to this space and what draws others to join and stay in Solarpunk spaces! From our art to our writings to our technological concepts and even our arguments all come from sincerity and passion about what we’re doing and the future we want! 
And keep in mind, these are the opening and ending themes of the game! These are the songs where the writers are trying to bottle up the essential vibes of the game into a few minutes of funky tunes! You open up the game for the first time, you hear Reach for the Stars! And after a wonderful story and the satisfaction of finishing a game, you hear Speak With Your Heart! Even the titles alone wouldn’t feel out of place in a discussion about Solarpunk ideals!
Final Words
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The Sonic franchise has its flaws, but it sure does speak on hope and resistance. Is Sonic Solarpunk? Maybe not entirely, but I feel it’s got some core elements that are Solarpunk-aligned, even when it’s not always front and center like it is here. I’m not going to pretend that Sonic the hedgehog as a franchise is the pinnacle of a Solarpunk story/game--but it’s got some nice elements that could inspire other stories, and uses those elements in a way that makes people feel like they can and should take action against darker industrializing forces in their life.
Or at least it did for me, as a fifth grader. Maybe that’s not a lot. But if it can help open the eyes of a handful of kids and teens and make them feel hope? Make them feel like they could maybe find the courage to do something? Maybe that’s all we need from it.
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wisemusiccheesecake · 1 year ago
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My pitch for a Sonic game:
- Spin-off game set post-Forces, meaning you can use your old OC if you have one, or load up a new one.
- Main Plot: Trying to track down Phantom Ruby prototypes to make sure they don't fall into the wrong hands, which means that you'll be seeing old villains from the Sonic franchise, and hopefully characters from other forms of Sonic media.
- Forbidden Ruby: Strongest PR prototype, with the power to permanently alter matter, meaning Eggman didn't use it out of fear of it's power, nor did he destroy it out of fear of what that could do. This is unsurprisingly the main McGuffin that the latter half of the game revolves around.
Plot:
- The first act consists of a series of missions to find weaker prototypes, scattering you across the map, into old and new zones meeting characters like Mighty and Ray, and (in a perfect world) Tangle and Whisper. These acts are supposed to be there to get you used to the controls and establish some world-building and allow the player to see what impacts the events of Forces had and establish a wider world, instead of everything revolving around Sonic. These missions also allow the player to build up their repertoire of weapons in preparation for the next act of the game.
- The Chaotix inform you that someone called 'Elizabeth' is attempting to steal the FR, and they aren't sure why. When asked, no-one knows who Elizabeth is, although Tails seems the most suspicious, almost like he knows something that he isn't telling anyone, but the rest of the cast don't seem suspicious of Tails, which allows the player to second-guess whether or not Tails is hiding something or not.
- The rest of the game is you trying to track down the FR, and find out who 'Elizabeth' is and why she wants it as well. During this you will fight some actual flat-out villains, like the Babylon Rouges and Team Hooligan. In the hub, there will be one of the Chaotix (Vector, Espio, and Charmy) who will tell you if they've made any breakthroughs with the 'Elizabeth' situation, to know about the FR location you can talk to Team Dark and Amy, who will tell you about any leads they find.
Final Act:
- Amy contacts you during a mission and informs you of the FR's location, and sends you and Sonic out to find it, telling you Tails will meet you there, though Sonic shows some confusion about why Tails would be there, but shakes it off as he trusts that Tails won't use the FR for anything.
- You make your way to the location of the FR, only to find that the only person there is Tails, who's holding the ruby with clear intent to try and use it.
- Sonic stops Tails and asks what he wants to do with the ruby, Tails has no real use for it as he has everything he needs. Sonic also brings up how he feels betrayed by Tails, and how he feels like Tails is being selfish. Rouge contacts you to ask where they are, and if they've found whoever Elizabeth is. Sonic says they haven't and asks Tails if he knows who Elizabeth is.
- Tails drops the bombshell of all bombshells on Sonic's little head. Tails is Elizabeth. She wanted to use the Forbidden Ruby's ability to alter matter to transition seamlessly, without the whole medical process.
- Tails uses the Ruby to transition, Sonic then asks her why she didn't tell them sooner, as they could've helped her, Elizabeth breaks down ranting about why she felt uncomfortable with telling them. She rants about how she didn't want to make a fuss as they would've inevitably made a very big deal about it, and she couldn't handle being the centre of their collective attention.
- Sonic comforts her as he signals you to grab the Ruby, then the three of you leave, signalling the end of the game as the credits roll. This gives Tails/Elizabeth a platform to be more present in the games as Sonic's 'little sis' as she feels more confident.
This pitch exists because Sonic Team keep teasing us with Transfem Tails bait and I'm taking it fr. Open to critique.
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the-sky-queen · 5 months ago
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I made a script for a Sonic 3 fan trailer!
Backstory time. Back before Sonic 2 came out, I made a little series on my YT channel called (Mis)Interpreting Sonic 2 before it comes out. The title tells you all you need to know. All I had to go off of was the trailers and I decided to make little non serious predictions for how the movie would play out. As Sonic 3 approaches, I planned to do the same for this movie, starting with a prediction for how the trailer would look before it came out. I started to finally work on it last week, but now it seems I'm too late, as the trailer is coming out tomorrow! 😅 However, I still want to share my predictions, so here's the script I made, along with a few of the voice lines I recorded!
Script :
*We start by seeing that post credits scene from the end of Sonic 2, though it’s edited down to just two key lines*
GUN Soldier: We found something. A File buried deep in our system and dating back over 50 years.
Walters: Project Shadow . . .
*the shot of Shadow opening his eyes*
*we cut to the Wachowski family hanging out at the park*
Sonic: Just a normal day in Green Hills!
Knuckles: We can’t let our guard down!
*cut to a news broadcast of Shadow standing silhouetted against the moon*
Tom: Uh . . . Sonic? You never told us you had a twin.
*Sonic is thrown into the ground*
Sonic: Gah! Who-?!
*Shadow stands over him*
Shadow: My name is Shadow. I’m the world’s Ultimate Lifeform.
*Stone steps out of the shadows, in a new outfit and looking very menacing*
Stone: I believe some reintroductions are in order.
*shots of some battles and stuff*
Eggman: Try all you want, rodents, but you can’t beat him!
*shot of the ark*
Eggman: He’s smarter than Tails-
*Tails and Shadow confrontation*
Eggman: Stronger than Knuckles-
*Shadow catches Knuckles’ punch*
Eggman: And faster than Sonic.
*iconic first chaos control scene from SA2*
*Shadow growls at someone off camera*
Shadow: Stay out of my way and no one gets hurt.
*shot of Sonic, somewhere safe, evidently ranting to his family*
Sonic: I don’t get this guy! One minute, he’s pounding me into the ground, the next, he’s saving people’s lives!
*Shadow holds up a heavy rock or piece of debris or something so a little girl can escape from being crushed*
*shot of Rouge! And we’re on the Ark!*
Rouge: You need to decide, Shadow. You need to decide who you are, whose side you’re on, and what you’re going to do with the life that was given to you.
*Various shots as the music swells and everyone shouts Shadow’s name*
Sonic: Shadow!
Eggman: Shadow!
Maria: Shadow . . .
*music calms down and shows Shadow clenching his fist*
Shadow: I am . . .
*CUT TO SONIC 3 LOGO WITH THE LIVE AND LEARN MUSIC AW YEAH*
Aaaaaand here's a few of my favorite voice lines I recorded for this:
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