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So you know this section of the Cypria fragment synopsis:
The Greeks take up their dead and send envoys to the Trojans demanding the surrender of Helen and the treasure with her. The Trojans refusing, they first assault the city, and then go out and lay waste the country and cities round about. After this, Achilles desires to see Helen, and Aphrodite and Thetis contrive a meeting between them. The Achaeans next desire to return home, but are restrained by Achilles, who afterwards drives off the cattle of Aeneas, and sacks Lyrnessus and Pedasus and many of the neighbouring cities, and kills Troilus. — Proclus, Chrestomathia, i
I am endlessly curious how that meeting between Achilles and Helen went down and what they talked about.
Especially with the implication that after meeting her he stops the Achaeans from returning home and has gained some new motivation to fight (and kill).
#achilles#helen of sparta#trojan war#greek mythology#the cypria#the way it's worded makes it feel like thetis and aphrodite organised a play date between two individuals haunted by the narrative LMAO#ik ik it's achilles that asks (or desires and doesn't ask. either way he's intrigued) but still.#very funny for two individuals who are specifically part of zeus' plan to meet up.#also what on earth did helen say/do??? girl what HAPPENED
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Achilles has always been...intense, when it comes to falling in love.
I wanted to bring to mind Greek pottery for this one, I hope it came through. Maybe I should have coloured in the background as well but was afraid it would get overwhelming -- that's what the blue is for, too.
#DC Art#Achilles#Troilus#The Cypria#probably?#i Want to travel back in time and return with full copies of every part of the epic cycle#Also I tried to make Achilles look somewhat insectoid#my mom couldn't tell because of how fucked my normal anatomy is lmao
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i just think it's neat that odysseus gets put in a position where he has to kill his child to avoid going to war and he can't do it and then agamemnon gets put in a position where he has to kill his child to go to war and he does it
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Αφροφίτη Κυπρία
Aphrodite of Cyprus
Images found on Pinterest, arranged by me
#helpol#aphrodite#beautyofaphrodite shrine#hellenic community#hellenic deities#hellenic gods#hellenic pagan#hellenic polytheism#hellenic polythiest#hellenic worship#aphrodite altar#aphrodite deity#aphrodite art#lady aphrodite#aphrodite devotion#aphrodite greek mythology#aphrodite goddess#aphrodite devotee#aphrodite offerings#aphrodite cypria#aphrodite kypria#aphrodite of cyprus#cyprus#hellenic polytheistic#hellenic paganism#hellenism#hellenic devotion#moodboard#collage#Αφροδίτη
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paris the musical from 1990 (squared)
second part of my The Leader """"analysis""""
the one friend who did stick by him and his decision to leave the battlefield (patroclus) died because of it
:(
something something tragic irony
idk what my man thinks ""winning"" looks like butttttttt
he lost his slave girl, his honour, his bf, and his life
L
let's just say it's not glory for you
(yes yes ik kleos)
(but see my above list of L's)
(definitely not his finest moments in my humble opinion)
girl they just decided on one 5 minutes ago
get this man an alarm clock
meanwhile patroclus: 💀
haha sorry
yeah that went well, didn't it?
paris: so anyways i started blastin'
anyways LISTEN TO THIS MUSICAL
youtube
#paris the musical#jon english#paris 1990#achilles#paris of troy#musicals#mythology stuff#patroclus#hector of troy#the iliad#homer#the epic cycle#trojan war#cypria#david mackay#bernard doc neeson#musical yaps#this is so niche#greek mythology#gay#the leader#tagamemnon#ONE! TWO! THREE!#mop#Youtube
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Prince Paris by Herman Wilhelm Bissen.
#herman wolhelm bissen#mythological sculpture#paris of troy#cypria#the trojan war#the iliad#trojan war#male beauty
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Aphrodite: Aeneas, my eyes! I am sending that pretty cousin of yours to Sparta, and I want you to go with him. Aeneas: I'll keep Alexander out of trouble. Aphrodite: No, darling. Aeneas, now confused: ... I'll not keep him out of trouble? Aphrodite, delightedly kissing his cheek: That's my boy! Now, only *specific* trouble, you understand - you'll know when it happens. I don't want him otherwise harmed. Aeneas, very much not understanding: Yes, Mother.
#the iliad#trojan war#epic cycle#aeneas#aphrodite#a new fragment of the cypria!#completely real I promise#stasinus himself gave it to me :)
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bros out here are seriously saying that im “SCUM” and “DESERVING OF A CRUEL FATE” for ambushing and killing troilus the young son of priam w/o even considering that the act represented that all trojan efforts to defend their city would be in vain. Cool
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Re: last reblog's tag (mine).
Cypria is a lost epic that only reached us in fragmentary state from different authors but. Something about procreation to deliver fate etc.
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Time Travel Question 21: The Library of Alexandria (Miscellaneous III)
I welcome your suggestions for both Library of Alexandria and other lost works of World Literature and History, as there will be future polls.
#Time Travel#The Library of Alexandria#Little Iliad#Trojan War#Nostoi#Cypria#The Epigoni#Seven Against Thebes#Alcmeonis#Iliou Persis#Telegony#Ennius#Aristotle
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The impeccable drama of a Judgment of Paris interpretation that chooses to have Aphrodite disguised in the appearance of Helen and say "Grant me your apple cast from gold ... Take me as your reward" is so SO incredibly good what a galaxy-brained idea
AND THEN all of the tension and conflict created between Paris and Helen through him constantly referring to her as "Sweet Aphrodite" and "goddess"... Like it starts off very endearing for Helen in Perfect Stranger ("He called out a name meant for me") but quickly turns sour in Paris In Court and Any Fool Could See - Paris has precisely 0 brain cells and is quite possibly the densest lead role I've ever come across. His naivete and optimism is actually quite scary (especially at the beginning of Any Fool Could See) and the constant kneeling and devotion towards Helen is just *chefs kiss*
Helen becomes less of a person and more of a symbol of love (to Paris) and war (to everyone else). The line delivery of "I become the object / Of such bitterness / And fear" in Hell Or High Water tugs at my heartstrings. Sheila Parker's performance throughout the musical absolutely elevates Helen's character, her vocals are AMAZING honestly.
There's layers to it I'm not going to be able to put into words or do justice right now but that's okay. TL;DR: "One goddess / One human counterpart". It's such a fun twist on that myth!!
#paris the musical#greek mythology#capri talks#me: i'm just gonna write a quick thing no big deal. just a few sentences to get across the idea#also me: *writes this instead*#truly cannot escape writing multiple paragraphs. it's who I am okay#Helen#Paris#Aphrodite#helen is such an underrated character in greek mythology I have SO many thoughts about her you wouldn't believe...#little tidbits of info that leaves me going ???? and NO ONE TALKS ABOUT#example: that one Cypria fragment that has Zeus and Nemesis as the parents of Helen so she's straight up a goddess herself (?!?!)#man. I have so many ideas I want to share with the world (but I'll try not to force it/pressure myself into making anything)
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*slams door open* Does Chiron have access to the lost works of the epic cycle?
#percy jackson#percy jackon and the olympians#greek mythology#homer#homeric epics#the epic cycle#can campers at camp half blood read the nostoi? the little iliad? the cypria?
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I really am regretting decisions make by me three weeks ago. I really should have bought that Euripedes plays collection book while I was at the bookstore.
#it is so much easier to flip through pages than work my way through digital pdfs for this#just saying#on the other side i have read two of his plays in the last two days for this edit project#along with all the surviving fragments for the cypria#and a good portion of both fabulue and bibliotheca#so you can't say i didn't do my research#i'm to the actual iliad edit point#and stopping here#i'll go actually buy a copy of it tomorrow when i go out on the hunt for the argyle and jonathan comic#how do i own two copies of the odyssey (granted one is the graphic novel version but still)#but none of the iliad?#for shame#faith talks
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#largely this is about troilus and cressida#which actually became the reason i had to temporarily add 'shakespeare' to my blocked tags list#because i'd been looking for posts about cypria troilus#but it's also about the realization that#even though titania and oberon are very celtic fairies#when shakespeare said 'theseus' and 'hippolyta' and 'athens'#he really meant 'theseus' and 'hippolyta' and 'athens'#i've been in that play multiple times and still only put that together recently#because basically all of the supernatural elements in midsummer's#felt like celtic and british mythology and not greek mythology
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Fandoms you're in?
excellent question!
Currently hyperfixating The Odyssey/EPIC the musical, but I also draw Good Omens, MSM, and maybe Trolls once in a while :)
#and when I say the odyssey I mean the cypria iliad posthomerica AND odyssey#pretty the whole damn Trojan war XDDD#bear answers#thanks for asking!!
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