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red-moon-at-night · 2 months ago

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So you know this section of the Cypria fragment synopsis:

The Greeks take up their dead and send envoys to the Trojans demanding the surrender of Helen and the treasure with her. The Trojans refusing, they first assault the city, and then go out and lay waste the country and cities round about. After this, Achilles desires to see Helen, and Aphrodite and Thetis contrive a meeting between them. The Achaeans next desire to return home, but are restrained by Achilles, who afterwards drives off the cattle of Aeneas, and sacks Lyrnessus and Pedasus and many of the neighbouring cities, and kills Troilus. — Proclus, Chrestomathia, i

I am endlessly curious how that meeting between Achilles and Helen went down and what they talked about.

Especially with the implication that after meeting her he stops the Achaeans from returning home and has gained some new motivation to fight (and kill).

#achilles #helen of sparta #trojan war #greek mythology #the cypria #the way it's worded makes it feel like thetis and aphrodite organised a play date between two individuals haunted by the narrative LMAO #ik ik it's achilles that asks (or desires and doesn't ask. either way he's intrigued) but still.#very funny for two individuals who are specifically part of zeus' plan to meet up.#also what on earth did helen say/do??? girl what HAPPENED

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koruga · 2 years ago

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Achilles has always been...intense, when it comes to falling in love.

I wanted to bring to mind Greek pottery for this one, I hope it came through. Maybe I should have coloured in the background as well but was afraid it would get overwhelming -- that's what the blue is for, too.

#DC Art #Achilles #Troilus #The Cypria #probably?#i Want to travel back in time and return with full copies of every part of the epic cycle #Also I tried to make Achilles look somewhat insectoid #my mom couldn't tell because of how fucked my normal anatomy is lmao

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finelythreadedsky · 2 years ago

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i just think it's neat that odysseus gets put in a position where he has to kill his child to avoid going to war and he can't do it and then agamemnon gets put in a position where he has to kill his child to go to war and he does it

#the cypria must have been a hell of a poem #mine

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beautyofaphrodite · 3 months ago

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Αφροφίτη Κυπρία

Aphrodite of Cyprus

Images found on Pinterest, arranged by me

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ilions-end · 23 days ago

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wishing we had a complete third part of the epic cycle for no other reason than to have a surviving epic that'd be undeniably The Worst One so we could stop with the endless "iliad versus odyssey: which one rules which one drools" non-discussions

#guys they're both considered greats and they're very varied and we're blessed to have two such unique pieces of storytelling #is what i say when i'm not being a bitch going 'oh SORRY if the iliad is TOO STARK IN ITS HUMANITY for you...!'#(obviously i relate to and am interested more in one than the other. that's how it works for everyone)#(mistaking preference for quality is an intellectual dead end)#now if we only had the cypria or the little iliad to be the dull disjointed one

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emmikay · 2 months ago

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*slams door open* Does Chiron have access to the lost works of the epic cycle?

#percy jackson #percy jackon and the olympians #greek mythology #homer #homeric epics #the epic cycle #can campers at camp half blood read the nostoi? the little iliad? the cypria?

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dreamconsumer · 3 months ago

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Prince Paris by Herman Wilhelm Bissen.

#herman wolhelm bissen #mythological sculpture #paris of troy #cypria #the trojan war #the iliad #trojan war #male beauty

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littlesparklight · 10 months ago

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Aphrodite: Aeneas, my eyes! I am sending that pretty cousin of yours to Sparta, and I want you to go with him. Aeneas: I'll keep Alexander out of trouble. Aphrodite: No, darling. Aeneas, now confused: ... I'll not keep him out of trouble? Aphrodite, delightedly kissing his cheek: That's my boy! Now, only *specific* trouble, you understand - you'll know when it happens. I don't want him otherwise harmed. Aeneas, very much not understanding: Yes, Mother.

#the iliad #trojan war #epic cycle #aeneas #aphrodite #a new fragment of the cypria!#completely real I promise #stasinus himself gave it to me :)

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adriles · 10 months ago

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bros out here are seriously saying that im “SCUM” and “DESERVING OF A CRUEL FATE” for ambushing and killing troilus the young son of priam w/o even considering that the act represented that all trojan efforts to defend their city would be in vain. Cool

#troilus #priam #cypria #telegony

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evilios · 5 months ago

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Re: last reblog's tag (mine).

Cypria is a lost epic that only reached us in fragmentary state from different authors but. Something about procreation to deliver fate etc.

#MITOLOGIA 🏛️#cypria #zeus #helen of troy #helen of sparta

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gwydpolls · 1 year ago

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Time Travel Question 21: The Library of Alexandria (Miscellaneous III)

I welcome your suggestions for both Library of Alexandria and other lost works of World Literature and History, as there will be future polls.

#Time Travel #The Library of Alexandria #Little Iliad #Trojan War #Nostoi #Cypria #The Epigoni #Seven Against Thebes #Alcmeonis #Iliou Persis #Telegony #Ennius #Aristotle

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red-moon-at-night · 1 month ago

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Achilles' prophecy about his fate — to stay home and live a long life but in obscurity, or to go to Troy, to war and "my return home is lost, but my glory will be undying" (Caroline Alexander translation of The Iliad) — is also about Helen's fate, by the way. If you even care.

#helen of sparta #achilles #greek mythology #the iliad #trojan war #tagamemnon #*drops the wildest takes and refuses to elaborate*#Listen. I'm not saying that passage literally refers to helen. But with how they're both instruments of Zeus' plan... it might as well be!!#but no. everybody always focuses on ONE half of the zeus's-weapons-of-mass-destruction equation.#there is only ever 1 option to choose for both of them. kleos at the cost of everything. two cogs in the machine propelling it all forward.#something something. that conversation between Achilles and Helen in the Cypria feels really important all of a sudden.#never put these two in a room together or there will be ruinous consequences. they've surely got to be terrible influences on each other.#screams. head in hands.

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faithfulcat111 · 8 months ago

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I really am regretting decisions make by me three weeks ago. I really should have bought that Euripedes plays collection book while I was at the bookstore.

#it is so much easier to flip through pages than work my way through digital pdfs for this #just saying #on the other side i have read two of his plays in the last two days for this edit project #along with all the surviving fragments for the cypria #and a good portion of both fabulue and bibliotheca #so you can't say i didn't do my research #i'm to the actual iliad edit point #and stopping here #i'll go actually buy a copy of it tomorrow when i go out on the hunt for the argyle and jonathan comic #how do i own two copies of the odyssey (granted one is the graphic novel version but still)#but none of the iliad?#for shame #faith talks

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oracleofdiscord · 1 year ago

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