#the counselor the sounds of nightmares

[randybutternubber]

Cece and Otto as kids, not a whole illustration, it’s for an animation

Btw did we even get actual spelling for cece’s name because this is going to be a NIGHTMARE to tag

Running with the idea that they’re not biologically related because of noone saying that they don’t look alike in the bluntest way ever

[queen0fm0nsterz]

TSON Comic adaptation 2#

It's going much better than expected! I am very happy with the designs of the characters and with the studies I've been making... I thought I'd post some of the stuff I made so you can see it but I will keep some other things to myself👹

1 & 2 - Understanding how the children are drawn was relatively easy, but trying to keep the proportions consistent is a nightmare. A lot of them have MASSIVE hair and a tiny face, so I tried to reflect that with Noone.

3 - Otto will be such a pain in the ass to keep consistent... There's no other adult to take as reference for the face, but I think I have the body down!

4 - Concepts for the cover(s?) of episode one. I already made the draft of the first 14 pages (approximately 6 minutes in), so if I keep this pace up I should have the first part ready soon enough. I will make a Q&A explaining how I intend to divide the parts.

5 - My designs of baby Otto and Sisi! I went out of my way to make him look like Chicken Little. And a ginger. It's an inside joke.

Bonus:

[lvndrcrow]

I really am loving the new little nightmares podcast .. i like otto sm

[rzelia]

started listening to the sounds of nightmares podcast a bit ago… mindlessly doodled

british people speak so pretty.. anyone notice noone humming six’s theme in the toy store of chapter 3 ?

[itstimetotheorize]

The Sounds of Nightmares chp.5 is out. Otto used a machine to see Noone’s dreams. The thing he saw…an ovular shape, splitting across the center. As it opened, he saw a pupil shining so bright it’s as if it glared like the sun…“it’s”here…and “it’s” watching him.

[softichill]

Otto is. Astoundingly bad at his job

[mynameisrobiniamadumbass]

noone roasted otto so bad that i audibly said "oh shit" while doing the dishes

get him girlie

[autisticlee]

sometimes I think about how when I went to college for a year before I dropped out (basically failed out,) the counselors/dean told me they can't help me at all or give any accommodations unless I have an official autism/adhd diagnosis. that might sound logical at first, but when you think about it more, it's actually quite fucked up. if someone is struggling really bad, what's the harm in helping them? why do they require a paper to get even the smallest amount of help? people who don't need help aren't going to be failing miserably without help! even NTs could benefit from some adjustments to the horrible school system! (but changing the entire system is a whole other conversation that the school system isnt ready for)

but even if you do agree to jump through their hoops, you realize it's even more fucked up that the diagnosis process requires YEARS in most cases (in my case it took 4 or 5 years, can't recall exactly now, for autism/adhd diagnosis, which would have meant i finished school before getting it if i managed to mot fail out, or i wait that long before going back, which is a whole struggle itself) and they also tried billing me for THOUSANDS of dollars because of insurance issues!!

so you put a ton of time and money into this, and then get told the only accommodation they are willing to give you for autism and adhd is "a little extra time on tests"

....

my test scores were the best part of my whole class experience. that was NOT what I struggled with!!!!! those tests were all online and could be done in the comfort of your home where you can accommodate yourself and have plenty of time left over when you finish them because you are comfy in your own space, (and also, no one was stopping you from having your notes/books/google open to find the answers,) and you don't even need a time consuming, expensive diagnosis for that!

SO WHAT'S THE POINT!!!!!!!

[mickeys-malarkey]

So, I Think I Know Who Ruth/Noone Is

No, I don't think she's Six nor Alone. But I don't think she's a totally new character like Otto/The Counselor (who, by the way, I noticed upon my relisten also identifies himself as “The Counselor” in his first audio log; an incredibly weird decision for one counselor in an asylum full of other counselors that he mentions constantly to make if it has no significance), either. And, I'm sorry, but this will mean that she is yet another poor child who doesn't get a happy ending.

Point One: Her Name

We… we know that Ruth's other name is “Noone,” not “Six” nor “Alone,” guys. That alone is proof that she's neither of them, just like how knowing Otto's other name is “The Counselor” alone is proof against the theories that he's either The Doctor or Mono/The Thin Man.

From what I can tell, it looks like people who've lived in both worlds get a Human Name and what I'll call a “Nowhere Name” or a “Nightmare Name.”

“The Janitor” is for sure Roger's in LN1.

“The Doctor” seems to be “that celebrity doctor” from TSON's in LN2.

“The Counselor” is for sure Otto's in TSON and potentially LN3 if he shows up there.

“Noone” is for sure Ruth's.

Some might choose their Nowhere/Nightmare Name, some may be bestowed it, but it certainly looks to me like the only time someone gets multiple Nowhere/Nightmare Names (excluding The Candleman/Ferryman because, from what Otto said at the beginning of Ch5, he's like literally some sort of Eldritch god or personification of an abstract concept or something who probably doesn't even have a concrete True Physical Form seeing as he's described very differently by mythologies all over the world throughout history, “‘The Guardian At The Threshold,’ an archetype that parapsychologists have obsessed over for centuries. A mythic entity who's appeared in the stories of innumerable cultures. No matter their description, his roll is always the same: to confront anyone who dares cross into unseen worlds . . . The Candleman. The Ferryman. Indeed, The Guardian At The Threshold. An eidolon [googled definitions: ‘a specter or phantom; a ghost or elusive entity; an unsubstantial image; an image or representation of an idea; an apparition of some actual or imaginary entity, or an aspect of reality’] on the inside, determined to keep. Me. Out.” So, I think we can just assume that, because he's an ethereal being, everyone who encounters him perceives him varying degrees of differently [I mean, just look how difficult Noone found it to solidify her perception of him enough to describe him in the first place] and, unless their perceptions just happenstance into matching up enough or they decide to call him by a name they heard someone else use, they all call him something different and therefore, to use Tumblr terms: he's Spiders Georg and shouldn't be counted) is specifically in the case of kids surviving to adulthood in The Nowhere. Because, then, they transition from having a “nickname” type of Nowhere/Nightmare Name to having a “title” type, like Mono (ain't no way his parents put “Mono” on his birth certificate, that's definitely a nickname) growing into The Thin Man (an incredibly weird title, but a title nonetheless 🤷🏻‍♀️).

Sisi could easily be Six, or Raincoat Girl, or Portrait Girl (more likely Raincoat Girl or Portrait Girl), there's evidence for all three (but stronger for Raincoat Girl and Portrait Girl) and Otto/The Counselor never mentioned whatever her other name is, only “Sisi.” But, as I said, we know Ruth's other name: Noone!

Now, there is an unnamed girl that Noone is a little too similar to for it to be a coincidence: Spoon Girl (aka Girl With Pigtails, aka Nosebleed Girl, aka Hospital Girl, whatever you wanna call her) from the LN2 comics.

Point Two: Narrative Parallels & Matching Imagery

• Ruth/Noone: has an eye-looking “pea-size tumor on [her] right-sided amygdala,” as Otto said (“they maintain it's benign, despite the unusual ocular appearance”).

> Is “helped” to escape the asylum, Otto/The Counselor, and her tumor in the horrible, corrupting nightmare world that is The Nowhere by The Candleman/Ferryman after he brings her back and forth for a while, manipulating her into thinking The Nowhere is the lesser of the two evils.

• Spoon Girl: has a right-side nosebleed, which could mean Ruth/Noone was incorrect that living in The Nowhere would cure her of her tumor (not surprising, given that “ocular appearance.” Of course she couldn't escape it in its own domain) and now the cancer has spread to her nasal cavity (nosebleeds come up as a possible side effect of olfactory neuroblastoma, a cancer of the nerves that allow you to smell which starts growing in your nose and can spread into your brain. They could've researched that and thought it seemed perfectly reasonable that a tumor growing in the opposite direction would do the same exact thing)?

> Is “helped” to escape her hospital cell by an unseen person repeatedly pushing spoons under her door only to find that she's actually dug herself into an identical cell, all the way down to the hash marks she put on the walls presumably counting how many spoons she broke while digging. The door then opens to lure her to where she's found by The Doctor and, presumably, is either killed by him or “saved” from him by The Thin Man (if her Glitching Remains that Mono can find and absorb in the actual game are an indication that he attempted a rescue after the pair encountered each other through The Mall), likely turning her into a monster similar to Monster Six and locking her away somewhere until her tumor finally killed her.

Wouldn't it just wrap Ruth/Noone's story up in a positively hideous bow if, once she thought she'd escaped the horrors of her real life, she literally just found herself delivered into the hands of the very same man who traumatized her and got her face plastered all over the telly in the first place, where she basically lives through a metaphor that makes her realize what a terrible mistake she's made before she succumbs to whatever her final fate was (the latter option would mean also into the hands of someone so similar to Otto/The Counselor that the writers were able to use him to foreshadow how his part of her story would end)? 😬😢

If you need more proof, let's look at the TSON cover art…

Looks an awful lot like those bottom two hands are gripping pigtails, doesn't it (in exactly the wrong place for her to be Alone, might I add. Alone's pigtails stick up, Ruth/Noone's hang down)…? The fact they're also specifically covering the area where her bangs would be is pretty suspicious, as well… Now, let's compare her to Spoon Girl's concept art from the LN2 art book…

…Yeah, I think it's her. The face, head, shoulder, and collar shapes are much too similar for this series whose artists very much do not suffer from Same Face nor Same Body Syndrome when characters aren't meant to just be members of a faceless/masked/cloned throng. Hello, Ruth/Noone… R.I.P. 😔

[grim-faux]

Who is to say that the Ferryman/Candleman isn't able to swoop in on a child at the soonest possible indication of distress and offer them an out? He very well might have let Noone dip between her world and the Nowhere, incentivizing Otto's descent into his villain ark. From the Sounds of Nightmares, we did get indication that Otto is now very willing to grab a child who might be susceptible to the Nowhere. He is willing to attempt subjecting that child to the Nowhere's border, thus making them a candidate to shift between the other realm and their world all for the goal of reaching Nowhere himself.

I have no doubts that a eldritch being of the Ferryman/Candleman's magnitude, who has worked his businesses for possibly centuries, knows how to screen child candidates as with adults. The Ferryman/Candleman 100% maintains control of the situation.

[randybutternubber]

Just thinking abt otto (some of this is copy pasted from a convo i had with a mutual)

I think something that hits me hard is that it feels like otto was finally in a healthy space, being able to interact with things like pictures of his sister and such, but the possibility to get her back, however slim, totally led him to just creating an absolute train wreck of himself and other people’s lives.

It’s really sad. Otto even became a counselor and obviously was able to get through rigorous academic work to get there despite his trauma, only to end up spiraling again.

At the end it almost feels like he’s going to come to the realization of how much he just fucked up, but it’s like he stops himself and immediately refocuses on getting Cece back, and then he moves on to exploit the next child.

I think the reason why Otto is such a compelling character is that he initially cared about noone. In the first couple sentences of the series he talks about the possibility of having Noone as part of a sleep study because she experiences scent which is uncommon, only to then say that her health should come first. There are a lot of other examples as well of this too. It makes his descent into apathy and exploitation way more upsetting imo.

Otto had every chance to do better, but he didn’t. It’s like once Cece comes into the fold he almost regresses emotionally. His responses to noone become sort of become childish and the obvious questions like if Cece is even alive either don’t occur to him or he isn’t willing to consider them.

Otto is a victim, but becomes a perpetrator and an abuser. He had the chance to do better, and the thing is that he DID, at least initially, and then he just goes completely off the rails

Also I just want to say that after relistening to TSON I don’t think that Otto sees noone as a placeholder for his sister, and I don’t think that he didn’t care for her at first, but his apathy grows as the series goes on

Stop asking me to draw him pregnant

[columbocorners]

ASK ME ABOUT OTTO FROM THE SOUNDS OF LITTLE NIGHTMARES BY GOD I WANT TO TALK ABOUT HIM.

I'm thinking I'm just gonna' make this entire tumblr sounds of nightmares centric because I've been listening to the podcast and drew otto a little bit, the first one is the final concept, the last two are scrapped ones, esp the third, baby face lookin ass !!

but hope y'all like this !!

[queen0fm0nsterz]

Love that we all collectively decide to hate on Otto but I think the only thing that keeps him from being completely unredeemable in my eyes is that conceptually he's hilarious. He's the worlds worst therapist. He is less mature than the ten year old he's trying to help, and said ten year old ends up helping him instead. He has one sided beef with a guy who is suspiciously shaped like an elongated sardine/Chtulu hybrid and said guy most likely has no idea who this man is. Even then, Otto takes everything said man says and does as a personal attack to HIM when in reality the guy could not give two fat shits about Otto. Main character syndrome much? when in reality he's like the annoying sidekick

[raychleadele]

Okay but THAT FRIEND

The most dramatic moment during my Camp Counseling career at an all girls camp was when a girl got a letter from a friend saying that Zac Efron had died and one of her bunkmates ran out of the cabin and shouted “ZAC EFRON IS DEAD!!!!!” and the camp immediately fell into chaos girls were crying in the middle of camp and running around spreading the news everyone was yelling and the counselors had to look up wether or not Zac Efron was dead (this is a wireless camp so the girls couldn’t access the internet and check for themselves) and then get out a megaphone and be like “ZAC EFRON IS NOT DEAD PLEASE REMAIN CALM” outside of all the cabins it was insanity. 

[astrolook]

Mercury in the houses

(Where does your brain do the most damage? Let’s find out! 😆)

Mercury in the 1st House: "I Talk, Therefore I Am." 📝

Speaks like they’re in a debate competition—even when ordering coffee. ☕

When it comes to job/career, can succeed in anything requiring fast thinking, persuasion, or scamming people legally. (Lawyer, salesperson, journalist.)

Will text you a 3-paragraph explanation for why they took 5 minutes to reply. 📱

Probably debated with your siblings (if you have any) so much as a child they now have trust issues.

Flirts like it's a TED Talk—informative, persuasive, and slightly exhausting.

Looks like their pen was possessed by a demon mid-word. 👻

Your brain runs at 5G speed, but their mouth runs at 6G.

Mercury in the 2nd House: "Money Talks… and So Do I!"💰

Talks slow and calculated—like they’re charging per word.

For job/career, you are perfect for finance, business, or making passive-aggressive Etsy shops.

"Who owes me $15 from 2020? I remember."

Your Handwriting: Fancy-looking cursive that belongs on an expensive check. ✍️

If has family, you might have an Excel sheet of who spent what on Christmas gifts. 🎁

Watches finance YouTubers like they’re movies.

Mercury in the 3rd House: "I Have 1000 Thoughts Per Minute."

Can out-talk an auctioneer. Never. Shuts. Up. Talks so fast, even their Wi-Fi can’t keep up.

For job/career, you could do well as journalist, social media manager, or that one coworker who emails at 3 AM.

Chaotic bisexual, pansexual, or flirts for sport. 🏆

Handwriting: Could be unreadable. Like a doctor’s prescription.

Probably has 50 tabs opened at once.

ADHD? I've seen this placement with people who has mercury in 3rd house.

Mercury in the 4th House: "Let’s Overthink Our Childhood."📝

When they talk it sounds like a therapist even when giving food orders.

For job/career, anything home-based (Freelancer, therapist, professional nostalgic, home maker).

Writes long emotional texts and then deletes them.

They're the one that tells their sibling, "Mom always liked me better" or "You're adopted".

Handwriting: Cutesy and emotional—like a grandma’s love letter.

On their social media accounts, they posts sentimental throwbacks way too much.

Biggest Flaw: Lives in the past.

Mercury in the 5th House: "Flirting is My Second Language."📝

Flirty, dramatic, and annoyingly charming.

For job/career, anything creative—actor, writer, public speaker, meme creator.

Flirts with everyone, dates no one. Flirting in the comments section.

Was the funny but annoying child.

Can’t take anything seriously.

Mercury in the 6th House: "I think in bullet points."

If anyone asks them a question, it would sound like a Google search result.

For job/career, perfectionist boss (or their employee’s worst nightmare).

Too busy analyzing red flags to enjoy romance.

Handwriting: Neat, small, and borderline obsessive.

Leaves detailed Yelp reviews.

Mercury in the 7th House: "Let’s Discuss This… Again."📝

Speaks in "we" instead of "I" (even when they’re single).

For job/career, they are good at lawyer, diplomat, or customer service expert.

Always "the mediator" in sibling fights.

Plays marriage counselor to their parents.

Can’t be alone, but overthinks commitment.

Mercury in the 8th House: "Secrets? I Know Them All."📝

The way they talk: Low voice, deep words, big secrets.

For job/career, they're good at investigator, psychologist, hacker, or a blackmail expert.

In love, communicates in mystery and sexual tension.

Handwriting: Looks like a serial killer’s notes.

Leaves cryptic tweets.

Won’t admit their sexuality… but they are. Sometimes they could be straight, but a sibling could be gay.

Mercury in the 9th House: "I will talk your ear off about philosophy and conspiracy theories" 📝

Flirts by explaining history.

In love, turns deep convos into foreplay.

Probably thinks they’re smarter than their parents.

Posts long Reddit rants.

Handwriting: Could be messy, but big and confident.

For job/career, could excel at teacher, philosopher, or annoying podcast host.

Mercury in the 10th House: "I’m CEO of Overthinking My Career."📝

Talks like a LinkedIn post and takes life too seriously.

For job/career, could be a CEO, politician, or a corporate robot, lol.

Will literally schedule date nights.

Takes love as seriously as a business contract.

Will only befriend "useful people."

Mostly posts work-related updates.

Mercury in the 11th House: "I'm the human embodiment of a Reddit thread"📝

Speaks like they’re in a sci-fi movie.

Tech startup, social activist, or online troll.

In love, probably falls for their best friend.

Might like the idea of "open-minded" relationships.

The "black sheep" of the family.

Handwriting: Either it looks like it belongs on a protest sign or kinda bad.

Mercury in the 12th House: "Did I Say That Out Loud?"

Mumbles, forgets what they were saying.

Job/Career: Psychic, therapist, or mysterious writer. If writes, these people would write under a pen name.

Either super close to their siblings or never speaks to them.

Very much into horror, psychological thriller movies.

Handwriting: Looks like a haunted diary.

Terrible at explaining emotions but fantastic at writing it.

Mercury is where your brain lives, where your mouth runs, and where your Wi-Fi connection to reality glitches. 😆🌍✨

[itstimetotheorize]

Episode 3 of "the sounds of nightmares"released ... Otto saw Noone vanish..."that which we are equipped to perceive, may not be the only world, let alone the predominant one"...I think I'm gonna throw up...If this is what I think it is, then...they may all be in danger.