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The Cyclops Saga:
My name is Odysseus, yoh! *vine boom* I'm the reigning King of Ithaca, yoh! *vine boom* Uh huh... *vine boom* I told you everything! *vine boom*
#epic the musical#epic the cyclops saga#the odyssey#odysseus#athena#polyphemus#greek mythology#epic the musical fanart#jorge rivera herrans#odysseus of ithaca#meme#breaking bad#skyler white#artists on tumblr#digital art
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Blood and Vengeance Saga Spoilers
ignore all the bad things and it looks kinda decent
#Anyone else just playing this part on repeat??#Not the whole song but just this specific part where Odysseus goes fuckn feral on Poseidon#I feel weird and bad just listening to an angry wet cat literally breaking and stabbing this old piece of sushi over and over again#But like-#Iss so goooood#I just KNOW Jorge had so much fun with this one#Rightfully so#These lyrics are turning over in my mind#Just- cooking...#Maybe burning...#But cooking nonetheless and absolutely frying my brain#epic the musical#odysseus epic#epic the vengeance saga#vengeance saga#the vengeance saga#epic poseidon#six hundred strike#lyrics#epic musical#epic odysseus#epic the musical fanart#art#artwork#my art#digital art
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Gale Poorly Explains: Epic The musical
Troy saga
Odysseus: We are going to reverse piñata these bitches. Then I’m going home to my wife and son.
(Proceeds to kick ass)
Odysseus: (gets a vision) What in Hades was that?
Zeus: need you to stab something.
Odysseus: Cool
(Breaks into a nursery)
Odysseus: You want me to kill this baby?!
Zeus: Yep! He will grow up and kill your family if you don’t. Good luck with your mental health after this.
Odysseus: (sings about being a guy before dropping the baby out the window)
Odysseus: I may have some PTSD
Eurylochus: I’m going to be a Massive pain later btw, I’m hungry.
Odysseus: Stealth mission on the island. Polites you’re with me.
Polites: I’m just covered in death flags.
(Later)
Polites: you should be more receptive
Odysseus: Maybe you’re right… but not with these guys.
(Athena appears)
Athena: Bitch did I just catch you feeling things again? You’re a warrior of the mind.
Odysseus: Yes I remember the flashback.
(Go to cave to get food)
Cyclops Saga
Polyphemus: why you invading my cave and killing my sheep?!
Odysseus: S*** man. Our bad. The name is nobody. Have some wine as an apology.
Polyphemus:(chugs it) Thanks… now I kill you.
(Polyphemus proceeds to go clubbing)
Polites: Oh no my death flags… (gets killed)
Eurylochus: So we killing that cyclops?
Odysseus: No… we are blinding him, stealing his sheep and then I’m doxxing myself.
Athena: What the f***?! I am leaving. You are too emotional.
Odysseus: This is why you have no friends!
Athena:… F*** you… you man! (Leaves)
(A storm approaches)
Storm Saga
Odysseus: probably unrelated to the cyclops but oh look! Sky islands!
Eurylochus: Captain… I think maybe we should NOT mess with the gods anymore.
Odysseus: Eurylochus, I get your concern… but don’t undermine me again.
Aeolus: Yo, I put the storm in this bag. You should be good. Just don’t have anyone open it.
Odysseus: No worries. I completely trust my crew and they wouldn’t be mutinous enough to disobey my order
(The crew proceeds to prove him wrong)
Poseidon: Oh look, it’s Odysseus of Ithaca. The guy who blinded my son.
Odysseus:… F***! The storm was related.
Poseidon: Killing your fleet.
Odysseus: Because I DIDNT kill your son?
Poseidon: Yep! Ruthlessness is mercy upon ourselves
(Wipes out fleet)
Odysseus: Seriously? What the f***!?
Poseidon: Your turn now
Odysseus: Lol nope! (Opens wind bag to release rest of the storm.
(Lands on Circe’s island)
Circe Saga
Eurylochus: Captain… I need to tell you
Odysseus: Eury… not now. Go scout or something.
(Eurylochus leaves then comes back)
Eurylochus: Men are pigs.
Odysseus: That’s a rude thing to say sure they have some crass
Eurylochus: No. A witch turned them into pigs.
Odysseus: oh… well damn.
Hermes: Hey Odysseus, want to fight Circe?
Odysseus: Ballin.
(Proceeds to go fight Circe, nearly wins)
Circe: How about I let you tap this ass (secretly holding knife)
Odysseus: Look, you are hot. But I have a wife who I’m an unapologetic simp for.
Circe: Damn, I can’t kill you. But I will send you to the underworld.
Odysseus: Wait… isn’t that the same thing?
(So Odysseus and his crew are restored and sent to the underworld.)
Underworld Saga
Odysseus: Sure is Undertale Genocide route up in here.
Polites: Catch phrase.
Anticlea: Dying… Odysseus I’m your mother and I died waiting.
Odysseus: I am going to need so much therapy later.
Tiresias: Vague Spoilers! Also your wife with a man who is a total monster
Odysseus: WHOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tiresias: Good luck bitch. (Leaves)
Odysseus: Maybe I need to be a monster
(They leave the underworld)
Thunder saga
Syren: Odysseus, it’s me your wife. You should jump in the water
Odysseus: But Penelope… I’m just a sexy little baby.
Syren: please?
Odysseus: Okay, but only if you tell me how to get to Ithaca by avoiding Poseidon.
Syren: (gives directions) now jump in
Odysseus: (goes from UwU to 🔪🔪🔪)
Odysseus: BTW we captured your friends.
Syren: WTF
Odysseus: Sashimi time
(Slaughters them)
Odysseus: To the lair of Scylla
Eurylochus: Hey Captain… I need to tell you something…
Odysseus: Eurylochus have the crew light up 6 torches
Eurylochus: I opened the wind bag!
Odysseus: … Make sure you’re holding one of the torches.
Scylla: Oh boy free eats.
(Eats 6 people)
Eurylochus: Did you just sacrifice 6 of our friends?!
Odysseus: You are litterally the LAST person who gets to judge.
(Mutiny occurs)
Eurylochus: I’m hungry. Oh look cows.
Odysseus: You idiot don’t touch the cows. They are the sun god’s!
(The cow was killed)
Zeus: So I heard you like killing cattle. Great news I love flexing on mortals.
Odysseus: Damn it Eurylochus…
Zeus: Alright Odysseus, you get to choose. You or your crew.
Odysseus: Me. I miss my wife.
Eurylochus: Seriously?
Odysseus: You Litterally caused a mutiny a few hours ago. You guys ain’t s***
Zeus: Welp. Time to Bolt
(Kills everyone but Odysseus)
Wisdom Saga
(8 year time skip)
Telemachus: Yo what up everyone. I’m the lovable son of Odysseus. He’s been missing for a while and now we got an infestation of Simps.
Antinous: You brat, where’s your hot mom?
Telemachus: Stop objectifying my mom.
Antinous: What you gonna do about it champ?
(Proceeds to get in a fist fight)
Telemachus: I could really use some help?
Athena: Did somebody need help?
Telemachus: A Friend?!
Athena: Uppercut that bitch.
(Telemachus proceeds to lose but did put up a decent fight)
Telemachus: You are my best friend now.
Athena: I would bury myself for you.
Telemachus: So you mentioned another friend of yours. You should go help him too.
Athena: Yea… I should. I wonder what he’s been up to
(Sees everything he’s been up to including getting captured by calypso)
Calypso: I’m a hot goddess. How are you not begging me to bone?
Odysseus: I miss my wife.
(Is borderline suicidal)
Athena: Crap… it’s worse than I thought.
Zeus: Wait… you want us to intervene on behalf of a mortal? We are gods. We don’t do that
Athena: That is Litterally ALL you do. And usually disguised as animals so you can…
Zeus: (changing subject) Okay okay! Let’s make it a game. Convince these gods to release him and me. Then I’ll release him.
Apollo: He killed the Syrens. I liked their songs.
Athena: They started it, and now the other Syrens will be more careful
Apollo: Fair point. Release him.
Hephaestus: He sacrificed his crew.
Athena: They betrayed him first, and if he is freed he will Rebuild his life.
Hephaestus: Okay fair, Release him.
Aphrodite: His mother died waiting for him.
Athena: The War was your f***ing fault!
Ares: Nice try. (Buts in)
Athena: Ares you cheapshotting bastard.
Area: He mocked the cyclops but didn’t kill him, used cowardly tactics. He’s pathetic and weak like his son!
Athena: (rage mode activated) HOLD YOUR TONGUE! Don’t insult my boy!
(Kicks ares ass)
Athena: Odysseus will slaughter all the suitors, and tell your whore of a girlfriend broken hearts can mend.
Ares and Aphrodite: Release him.
Hera: Give me one good reason.
Athena: He’s never cheated in his wife.
Hera: (glares at Zeus) Release him immediately.
Athena: I won your game.
Zeus: Ah but you forget… I’m a petty bitch! (Strikes her with lightning)
Athena: (badly hurt) Please… release him.
(And it’s implied he did)
Vengence Saga
Calypso: I’m not sorry for loving you.
Odysseus: You kept me here against my will for 8 years. Whatever emotions I feel towards you are Stockholm syndrome at best. Later.
(Hermes appears)
Hermes: Ready for one last ride?
Odysseus: Bring it!
(Proceeds to have a dance number with Hermes and get passed Charybdis)
Odysseus: I’m finally home.
Poseidon: Bitch you thought.
Odysseus: No, I am not dealing with this today.
Poseidon: Get in the water!
Odysseus: 600 Strike!
(Cue anime fight)
Poseidon: You may have won by some miracle… but now that storm blocks your way home. Sucks to be you.
Odysseus: No… sucks to be you.
(Odysseus proceeds to penetrate Poseidon with his trident until the god begs for mercy)
Poseidon: How will you sleep at night.
Odysseus: Next to my wife. On a mattress from Mattressfirm! Save 100 dollars on your next purchase with the code f***youposeidon.
(Now at Ithaca)
Ithaca saga
Penelope: Welp, I’ve stalled as long as I could with the Loom. Time to use the bow stall challenge.
The suitors: It’s impossible! No one could string this bow.
Penelope: Skill issue, call me when someone does.
(Hours later)
Antinous: F*** this! Let’s just go kill her son and then open her bedroom door and [Redacted)
(Gets killed by arrow)
Odysseus: I’m killing all of you now.
Suitors: We need to get weapons:
Telemachus: I’m back, and you guys should just surrender now.
Suitors: Are you nuts, your father will kill us anyway. (Proceeds to attack son.
Odysseus: Oh I’m going to kill you guys even harder now.
(Brutally kills all the suitors)
Telemachus: Daddy?
Odysseus: Son?
(Cue hug)
Odysseus: I’m so proud of you. Now go tell your mother I’m home. I’ll be there in a moment.
Telemachus: I will. (Heads off to tell mom)
Odysseus: So Athena, you gonna say hi or…
Athena: You may have been right about being merciful.
Odysseus: Nah, you were right. And btw, I’m gonna retire from this warrior business. I only want to see my wife. I’m too old for this s***
(Prepares to see wife)
Penelope: Is that you my love?
Odysseus: I changed a Lot over the years… I’m not the same. But could you fall in love with me again maybe?
Penelope: I see… move our wedding bed then.
Odysseus: WTF that is Rooted to the ground. I made that bed with my hands! How can you ask that.
Penelope: Only my husband knew that. So you are him!
Odysseus: Oh…
Penelope: I will fall in love with you every single time. No matter where or when.
Odysseus: (crying) Penelope!
Penelope: Now get your ass over here! I’ve waited 20 years for you and momma has needs.
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So fun fact about me that you all may not know, but may suspect given my recent reblogs, but I was a Percy Jackson kid growing up. I found the book series in elementary school, fell in love with it and greek mythology in general. The reason I say this is because after having listened to the Epic the Musical (on repeat) I now have a personal headcannon that the Apollo cabin in PJO has it down bad for Epic the Musical and are also listening to it on repeat using the cabin stereo system.
Like it started out small with some of them finding it when the first saga was released and then it snowballed from there until the entire cabin was listening to it by the time the vengeance saga came around. And I can guarantee you that in my headcannon when the Ithaca Saga came out they used the Hermes cabin to get access to wifi so they could watch the livestream premiere. They all cried during it. The Hermes kids had no idea what was going on or why the entire Apollo cabin were having a fucking break down but they were rolling with it.
I also headcannon that since they started listening to it on repeat they have begun singing different songs from the different sagas during campfire night. Some of their offerings at dinner now go to Jorge even though he's not a god but Apollo allows it because he's also started listening to the musical because literally all his kids are obsessed with it and he's got to admit that it's a banger. The Apollo kids have now also started saying things like; "Odysseus would never," when they hear the tea coming from the Aphrodite cabin. They also say "guys that's not very open arms of you."
They've also unanimously created a code phrase that is used both on and off the battlefield and during capture the flag. The code phrase? 600 strike! Which triggers the Apollo cabin like sleeper agents to all close ranks and attack the attacker of who ever called out 600 strike. This has been used in capture the flag before to the utter confusion of both teams but mainly of Percy who was the one it was called on and could not understand why the entirety of the Apollo cabin was now coming at him like he had broken one of their instruments again.
Apollo absolutely, on more than one occasion, come down from olympus while his kids are listening to Epic during the "I can't help but wonder" song just to act out the scene where Odysseus goes "Son, I'm finally home" to have all of his kids there at the time tackle him to the ground. Chiron was concerned when this first happened wondering who pissed who off but after the tenth time that month he's over it and is just letting them do their thing. It's safer that way.
#pjo#epic#epic the musical#apollo#greek gods#apollo cabin#cabin 7#My godly parent is apollo#in case anyone was wondering#epic the vengeance saga#epic the ithaca saga#epic odysseus#epic musical#pjo headcanon#epic the wisdom saga#They also routinely sing#little wolf when training#they've started quoting and singing#the musical so much#that the other campers don't even#blink when it happens#it's become background noise#to them at this point#they do get a little concerned though#when they see some of the apollo campers#giving percy the side eye every now and again#they're worried they're gonna pick a fight#they can't win#Most of them are just glad to see the apollo cabin#moving on from their hyperfixation on Lin Manuel Miranda
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BEWARE, long “EPIC: The Musical” rant ahead, [Spoilers] for the Thunder Saga:
I'm surprised nobody has said this, but in Scylla's song she's not talking about Odysseus, about how she and Ody are the same monsters. She's talking about Eurylochus.
Im surprised by how many people think she's talking about Ody since the beginning, but she doesn't talk about him until the last moment, after he's already offered six of her men as an offering for her to let the rest leave in peace
When Scylla says, "you hide a reason for shame", it's just when Eury says that he has a secret he can't keep any longer, one that's been eating him form the shame and guilt When Eurylochus says "I opened the windbag while you were asleep", the animatic focuses on Ody as Scylla says
"leaving them feeling betrayed", because Ody felt betrayed that his best friend, his second in command would betray him in such a way, would be the reason why he couldn't reach his home sooner
"Breaking the bonds that you've made" again with Ody's silence, how he was mentally preparing and planning to make Eurylochus part of the sacrifices, as that was the final straw for him to become ruthless and "a monster"
"There is no price we won't pay", with Eurylochus begging for forgiveness, not because he actually is sorry, but to try and get into his captain's good side because he knows he fucked up. By that moment, he no longer trusted Ody, and I'm sure he didn't felt any actual remorse But he had to get on the man’s good side because 1. He had almost committed a mutiny (I think) when he tried to make Ody abandon their men in Circe’s island. And 2. Because Odysseus was still his captain and King. Who would want to be on their king’s bad side?
It's not until Odysseus tells Eury to light up six torches (six men to sacrifice) that Scylla is actually talking about him. And it's not till the final verse ("We are the same, you an I") that Ody actually admits he's become like Scylla.
Thank you for coming to my TED talk.
#epic the thunder saga#epic scylla#epic the musical#epic odysseus#the odyssey#I do not like Eurylochus#I have a love-hate relationship with that mf#epic eurylochus#epic athena#epic poseidon#epic penelope#epic the troy saga#epic the wisdom saga#epic the vengeance saga#epic the ithaca saga
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I CRYUNG I NEED SOMEONE TO SUM UP ALL ETM SONGS MY. MEMORY + ATTENTION SPAN IS SO BAD
Let’s speed run epic the musical so far!! (It’s under the cut cause even a summary is gonna take a bit for 35 songs-)
Horse and the Infant:
Giant horse- ATTACK! ZEUS?!?! What are you doing here? I have to kill a baby? But he’s just a little thing-
Just a Man:
This little boy reminds me of my son. Is killing him the morally correct thing to do? Yeet.
Full Speed Ahead:
Let’s introduce our main cast! Wow! Polites- Eurylochus- Odysseus! BFFs forever! We’re hungry- let’s go to this island and look for food!
Open Arms:
Wow Odysseus, you are looking hella tense, maybe you should try being nice and not so mistrustful. Look at these little creatures eating lotus fruit- wow this fruit is bad for you- let’s go to this cave to find food!
Warrior of the Mind:
Athena and Odysseus back story. Odysseus, your actions aren’t very Warrior of the Mind coded. Don’t disappoint me.
Polyphemus:
Let’s kill these Sheep!! NOOO! Scary Cyclops, we killed his sheep, now he will kill us.
Survive:
HES GOT A CLUB. He is killing us- NO POLITES. Oh, Polyphemus is asleep now cause he drank spiked wine.
Remember Them:
Odysseus tricks Polyphemus. They almost get away, and then he GIVES OUT HIS FULL NAME, JOB POSITION, ADRESS, AND SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER.
My Goodbye:
Athena is disappointed and they have a big messy friend break up.
Storm:
There is a big storm. Wow! A floating island! Let’s go!
Luck Runs Out:
Captain, you keep taking risks and not thinking this through. What happens if your plans fail?
Keep Your Friends Close:
Hahahahahaha! Here is a bag of wind! Don’t open it! Oh- the winions told you to open it? No!! Penelope- I’m hallucinating! Darn- the bag is opened.
Ruthlessness:
You hurt my son. So now I’m gonna kill most of your men. What’s this- a daring escape? Well- I’ll get you sooner or later-
Puppeteer:
An island. Let’s explore! Oh no- scary lady, she turned us into pigs! Let’s run Captain! Or not I guess.
Wouldn’t You Like:
Hey kid, this scary lady could kill you. How about some magic drugs? Totally safe and all.
Done For:
We are evenly matched- big magic fight! Wow! The magic drugs Hermes gave you really are something. Are you trying to seduce me?
There Are Other Ways:
Wow, you really are trying to seduce me. Too bad- I have a wife I love. Wait- you’ll help us? THE UNDERWORLD WHAT?
The Underworld:
We are haunted by everyone we have lost- Polites- wait- MOM?!? I’m too late-
No Longer You:
This dead prophet should tell me what we want to know- wait- what no- this is actually terrible? We came to you for help but now you’re saying you can’t help us? WHO?!a
Monster:
Maybe Poseidon was onto something, and we do have to be ruthless. Welp, time to become the monster y’all.
Suffering:
Ooo, Penelope, I love you, but you know I’m too shy. I don’t want to get in the water-
Different Beast:
SURPRISE I KNEW YOU WERENY MY WIFE. I actually did become the monster, and now I’m going to kill all your friends you Siren!
Scylla:
This is the only way home. Eurylochus, what do you mean you opened the wind bag back in Keep Your Friends Close. Light six torches- oh no, a giant monster is eating our crew. Me and her are the same you know.
Mutiny:
Captain why did you do that? Fight fight fight! Oh no- Odysseus has been stabbed. I’m hungry, let’s eat cows. Oh no, they were a gods cows. We knew that but still ate them. Now Zeus is gonna kill us.
Thunders Bringer:
Zeus is here. You can live, or your crew can live. But like- Penelope. Sorry crew. Crew dies.
Legendary:
It’s me! Telemachus! I never knew my dad- I wish I could know my dad. All these suitors want to marry my mom. I wish I could fight them. DONT CALL MY MOTHER A TRAMP!
Little Wolf:
Fight Little Wolf Fight- we are going to beat you up just cause you were in the way. WOW. ATHENA?? What are you doing here- we haven’t seen you since the second saga! Ow.
We’ll Be Fine:
I’m going to help you cause I feel guilty about your dad. Bet. We are best friends now. Go find my dad.
Love In Paradise:
Rewind- Morning! You were asleep. I’m in love with you now. Ew back away I have a wife. You’re a goddess??? Oh no- now I’m really depressed. I’m haunted by the ghosts again- ATHENA!
God Games:
Zeus- father- release Odysseus. *lots of convincing Gods* NO, YOU DID WHAT I ASKED SO NOW IM MAD. LIGHTNING BOLT. Is she- dead?
I’m Not Sorry For Loving You:
Yes I kept you trapped against you power, but I loved you- why won’t you love me back? It’s not like you have a whole literally family waiting for you-
Dangerous:
HAHAHAHA. Hello old friend! Let’s do some cool dance moves as I tell you how you will get back home. Here is a wind bag 2.0! Let’s hope you don’t have issues with it this time!
Charybdis:
Another obstacle!! But I know how to beat you!! Woo! I see home- I’m almost there! WAIT NO! NOT AGAIN!
Get In The Water:
Poseidon! Please let me get home- I already told Siren Penelope, I don’t want to get in the water! Can’t we get along? No! Drowning-
Six Hundred Strike:
Use the wind bag! I’m out of the water! SIX HUNDRED STRIKE! You’re beat Poseidon- let me go home. What’s this? You won’t. TIME FOR VIOLENCE. Stab. Stab. Stab. Next to my WIFE.
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LYRICAL SAGA: IMMERSE YOURSELF
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a series where you'll sink into the things being said
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𐙚 “… is we fucking or what?”
𐙚 “i done let that liquor turn me slvt.”
𐙚 “music still playing… in the background.”
𐙚 “i don’t want to fight, you got wrong vibes.”
𐙚 “good morning… it’s breakfast”
𐙚 "fucking two bad bitches... (at the same damn time)"
𐙚 he want a break, i been riding his face six hours."
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EPIC THE MUSICAL OPINIONS, VERY OPINIONS, VERY MINE.
IF YOU DON'T WANT SOME NEGATIVITY DON'T READ. THIS IS NOT PASSIVE AGGRESSIVE I SWEAR.
MOSTLY COMPILED AT NIGHT, SOME REVISION.
PLEASE DO NOT COME AT ME.
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After this saga I'm left kind of perplexed about epic.
What is epic trying to say here? What's the musical's stance on ruthlessness?
Because it isn't very clear to me anymore.
Is it bad? Is it good and just? Is it a necessary evil? Is it worth becoming something monstrous just to achieve your goals?
The thing I'm trying to say is:
Is epic a tragedy or a triumph?
Until the vengeance saga I thought it was the former, but now I'm not so sure.
Throughout the story Odysseus takes desicions that either side with what I'll call the 'open arm mentality' or the 'ruthless' mentality.
He gets punished for both a number of times.
He kills Astianax so he doesn't have to fear his future vengeance.
He spares Polyphemus and that leads to 558 men dying.
He appeals to Circe's humanity and that leads her to freeing his men and helping him get to the underworld.
He sacrificed 6 men to Scylla and that leads to 'mutiny' and 'thunder bringer' where the rest of his crew dies and he ends up in calypso's island where she imprisoned him for 7 years.
First act of ruthlessness= good outcome
First act of open arms= bad outcome
Second act of open arms= good outcome
Second act of ruthlessness= bad outcome
(I forgot to add the sirens, that encounter is kinda strange tho. Ody kills all of them but I wouldn't call that ruthlessness. Ruthlessness is doing whatever needs doing to get what you want. He needed to know how to get home, and killing the sirens after doesn't matter in that context. I guess it's good for future sailors? I'll count this as an altruistic positive I guess)
This breakdown isn't perfect, lots of other things happen and some things Ody does can't really be neatly categorized by this simple metric imo, but I'll continue anyway as it feels to me the story breaks down his actions in a sort of similar dichotomy.
All in all the 'good to bad' ratio seems pretty balanced, right? It's not always ruthlessness that wins the day, and 'open arms' solutions don't always work out.
So why does it feel like we're supposed to root for ruthless Odysseus? Why does it feel like the story wants us to believe that being the monster is a good if 'somewhat sad' outcome?
Why am I saying this? Well, it's 600 strikes.
Actually just- all the vengeance saga.
Why is what Ody does here supposed to be cool and awesome? Because, like, that is absolutely the angle here.
Complete with a, honestly absurd, anime power up and fighting-god-one-on-one moment.
Why does the story break down it's logic, breaks suspension of disbelief (at least for me), to get Odysseus into a position were he can torture Poseidon into letting him go?
Wich?? Btw should not work??
Why is this how he wins?
Why are the ghosts of his friends and family no longer spectres of regrets for but terrifying promises of death?
What does this say? Was Odysseus wrong about their sacrifice? Was regret ever only a noose around his neck? I'm looking too deeply into this one lol.
In 'get in the water' we even get the obligatory appeal to Poseidon's mercy just to hammer down once again that 'open arms' doesn't work, even tho it's Athena's appeal to her father's mercy that set Odysseus free in the first place.
The saga ends with Poseidon asking Odysseus how he'll sleep at night after all of this and Ody, in admittedly the coldest line ever written on paper, says:
"Next to my wife"
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This is cool.
Extremely cool even.
But that's kind of the problem I have with it.
The song ends in a badass way. This is meant to be the final zing to seal Odysseus' cool ass victory.
And in all of this, not once, does the story seem to recognize that...well...
Poseidon won.
Hell not even Poseidon recognized it!
I'm not even saying "OoOh if it was realistic Poseidon would have have won!" (Tho yeah, ask me about that, lol)
In the great ideological battle that's at the center of Epic: the musical, Poseidon was the ultimate victor.
Ruthless is what wins at the end, it's what gets Odysseus home. Odysseus might be a monster but he's a victorious one.
I feel people and the musical both don't really acknowledge that.
That even if Poseidon lost the battle he ultimately won the war.
Were is the irony? Where's the bitterness and sorrow? We're Poseidon's bloodied, mocking smirk revelling in his victory?
Is Epic a tragedy or a power fantasy?
#epic the musical#epic the vengeance saga#negativity tw#i guess#Yes i think Poseidon should have had the last laugh#i have many thoughts#i dunno maan#yell#anyway the music slapped hard as hell as was expected#Steven Rodriguez i love you#critical
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Okay look, I've never really read Greek mythology (my only exposure is EPIC the musical and I've never read The Odyssey or The Illiad so bear with me) but I feel like Odysseus is cursed to always suffer. Not in the same sense Cassandra or Sisyphus are actually cursed, but in an almost unwritten rule sort of thing. Like, how much of an unlucky bastard do you gotta be to constantly be thrown around by one god to another. How are the gods so involved in his life. First is Athena, which fair enough, she chose him as her champion. That one wasn't a problem. But then he runs into Polyphemus, who is POSEIDON'S SON. which, talk about unlucky. then he runs into Aeolus, which also wasn't actually a problem until the crew fucked around and found out with the wind bag, then he runs into Actual Poseidon, gets most of his crew obliterated and then yeeted to CIRCE'S island after that, because of course he does. Only after he found out his leftover crew ran into Circe of all people and was about to go confront her, does he run into Hermes who genuinely has no reason to be here and doing all this besides maybe helping his great grandson and also for entertainment purposes. Then he runs into Circe and it turns out she's pretty chill actually when she realized that he really just wants to go home and not stick around to do anything bad. Anyway, they don't run into any gods for like a saga and a half, which is a new record really, but shit still goes wrong because Of Course It Does and THEN Eurylochus tries to kill one of Helios' cows and then fucking ZEUS comes in to chime in and give Ody the illusion of choice (where he'll suffer no matter what he chooses). Zeus is literally just taking the piss out of this whole thing, and when Odysseus makes his choice, he STILL gets fucked over by being sent to CALYPSO'S island and being stuck there for SEVEN YEARS. Like, at that point it's just Zeus being petty. I'm more surprised that we don't have more scenes of Odysseus breaking down in tears during the entire musical. He's just being used like a ragdoll and thrown around.
Like. Odysseus' story is only a tragedy for everyone involved. It's actually a comedy of error for all the gods who are watching.
#epic the musical#i like ody. hes such a wet sobbing mess of a man#which. i do not blame him for. considering what he goes through#like the gods like throwing him around and ripping him to shreds like a chew toy#especially poseidon. dude gets TWO songs where he fucks over Odysseus#contrast that with Hermes who gets two songs all about helping Odysseus#it's really funny to me how much the gods just put this man through the wringer (thunder bringer reference)#anyway. unsure if i should tag the Odyssey in this one because. technically it is but also not#I'll tag it just in case#if yall wanna tell me about interesting facts regarding the Odyssey; feel free to say!#Odysseus#the odyssey#greek myth#the fire burns
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Once again I thank you all so much for supporting me during the Kirby OC Tournament. Especially all my followers & mutual who humored me with all the poll reblog stuff.
As promised the lore. (And I've been cooking this turkey for a while and it's ready to come out of the oven.)
Fair Warning contains spoilers... I will not be explaining all the details of what happening. This is incredibly vague & via musical... so I won't spoil that much (since this does take place during the final arc... Void Termina Saga). The events that are being shown do not happen exactly how they are portrayed, however the essence of what's happening is the same.
Morgan shall be singing "Last Midnight from Into the Woods,"
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Spoiler warning, (More drawn content is contained below)
(OH NO WHAT'S HAPPENING TO KIRBY...Sorry, I can't explain it just yet... Nor why Meta Knight's mask is broken in half... maybe he got into a fight or something, hold the phone I thought Galacta was trapped in insanity... what happened... Sorry if I tell anything of that it'll spoil the good stuff)
Dame Morgan: It's the Last Midnight
So in summary: After they refuse to hand Kirby over, Morgan reveals there's a traitor in their midst... Fumu is the reason why Kirby is in the state he is in (Fumu is currently regretting her life choices). Leaving Meta & Gala shocked, and scared to death at Kirby's current state, while Kirby is sad, and betrayed again...~
And Morgan just having herself a time, living her best life~
In the KBASW series, she tricks three major characters:
Namely: Queen Ripple, Hyness, and Fumu/Tiff. (the most devastating one she tricks)
Dame Morgan is basically a mixture of: "The Witch" from Into the Woods, Morgan from (Merlin's 2008 TV series), Eris from Sinbad (she has the voice of Eris), and the Joker from Batman.
Morgan represents the opposite of Celestine... (via Morgan vs. Merlyn wizard rivalry) The Anti-Celestine so to speak~
The one person she hates more than Arthur is Merlyn/Celestine.
Celestine sees magic as a tool, not a solution or the answer to your problem... promoting true self-improvement comes from within. For there will always be...: another bridge to cross, another monster to slay, another woods to go into. The only way to ever truly be prepared in this world is to learn from each other... and to be kind to one another & share the experience. If you cheat your way throw life will just get harder and move with you... Being better and leading a good example will inspire others to be better along with you.
The change starts within, with us...
While Dame Morgan:
Life is unfair, you play by their rules, you follow the system, sacrifice everything to fit the mold, and yet you can still be cheated out of what you deserve...
And you're telling me I should just "hang in there," "hold on", "it's gonna be okay eventually keep smiling".... nah? Let's stop "pretending to be good", everybody is just in it for themselves so... if you do that you're just a fool waiting to be tricked.
Why not live just for yourself... why not cheat back... why not be the bad guy? That's why her theme is "Stella Jang(스텔라장) _ Villain(빌런)
Morgan represents the easy way out, a quick fix... to blame someone else...an escape. How did she obtain this dark magic... The Jamba Heart...Granting everyone's selfish desires... the reason why everyone falls for it is because she has the charisma to make the offer far too tempting and to pass it up, no.
And guess who was her first customer... Hyness~
The biggest change I probably did the to mix anime & game lore. (Kirby Star Allies) In KBASW AU... Morgan the one who convinced Hyness the Jamba Heart was what he needed to restore his clan. It's the reason she's able to stay hidden for a long while...Allowing the negative to naturally corrupt him and use him as a figurehead...
Despite giving him the Jamaba Heart... she did not tell him exactly how to break the seal on Termina... (Whoops she must have forgotten, how clumsy of her...) Purposely having him fail~
However, the secret to this lies with... FUMU!? Due to the reincarnation of the first ruler of Dreamland... she holds the key to unsealing & controlling Void Termina... She throws them to the wrong person. She's very much tricked into thinking she's helping "Kirby," but... yeah this happens instead.
And of course, there's always a price... though once you do realize you've been bamboozled, she'll remind you that she gave you a choice... Ultimately making you realize it's your own fault at the end of the day. Very much rubbing your head in the mess you've made for yourself. (which is exactly what she's doing to Tiff/Fumu right now.)
In summary, she pretty much invites you to be your worst self; she's the villain but deliciously so! :3
#kbasw#kirby oc#dame morgan#meta knight#metadad#galacta knight#kirby right back at ya#kirby anime#krbay#tiff (fumu)#kirby star allies
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tuco stfu
((NO I LOVE ALL OF THIS PLEASE DONT APOLOGIZE
the jesse thing has me screaming because. he's acapella. he's making his own decisions. he's on his own. it's perfect.
the hector thing is fucking cool. what if after he's paralyzed, he has the guitar "speaking for him" BUT its only really mangled discordant sounds.
also gus is the way he is BECAUSE of max so what if before max kicks the bucket, gus is MUCH more expressive, much more range. that way when he goes silent, it might almost provide the notion that he's scared to add more music into his life because of max.
mike gets a little ditty abt how he loves pimento cheese sandwhiches BUT it has to happen right after something fucking AWFUL happens. like. jane dies. and we open on mike singing abt sandwhiches and then he gets the call to go to jesse's house. to lighten the mood or whatever.))
breaking bad/better call saul musical solo genres/sounds
this is a joke im taking seriously, i cant explain it any better than that. im vehemently against breakingbadmusical but HYPOTHETICALLY, this is what i would do if i was writing it. i would give each character a different genre for their motif. each character in the shows is doing their own thing, and ends up clashing with another character, hence literally every bit of conflict ever. it would make sense if you had different genres for different characters, the conflict would also reflect in the music itself.
ANYWAYS
walter: i keep coming back to classical music. at first its humble, but it can become pretentious and annoying SO quickly.
jesse: he's walter's foil, so it would make sense to make it early 2000's hip hop/rap but it has no knowledge whatsoever of the roots of the genre. it would be cool if it transitioned from hip hop/rap to something a like classical, like walter, except it actually sounds good and its very euphonous and stuff. yknow what im getting at?
skyler: hannah montana type beat. that's all i gotta say i think it says enough. also like Groove is in the Heart by Deee-Lite.
hank: heavy metal, but with the depth of a crime show that's been running for 17 seasons and does not give two shits about the realism of how the police and/or forensics world works.
marie: Getting Married Today from Company. All of her music is at LEAST 150bpm and would perfectly echo the mind of a high-strung, concerned nurse who's working in a very rich medical facility.
saul: new york in the 50s jazz style. really big and really loud. he's the bitch who gets the tap number and its at least ten minutes long. the clarinet is at the heart of it all though, because there has to be something to represent jimmy, but its buried under layers and layers of flashy meaningless noise
kim: leaning more towards the musical theatre genre than anyone else. very instrumental, i think the saxophone might really fit her, i think it would be cool if the music reflected her emotions more than she did herself, because kim doesnt really wear her heart on her sleeve, so you have to consult the music to gain more insight.
howard: jazz too, but its MUCH more refined and smoother than saul. like the really complicated music theory-y jazz that you hear in bars and restaurants at like 11pm on a saturday night.
mike: ok ok ok. hear me out. but i think if you had like. a lone flute, it would work. like i know it doesnt initially fit, but i feel like it does, because at the center, mike is just upset about everything, he longs for the past, i think, and i think if you wrote something in like the mid-range of the flute, or if you used a bass flute, it would sound really good.
lalo: ok so like saul and mike, lalo puts up a front. i think that front sounds like really loud miriachi music (think al compas de mi caballo). but the center is something brassy, and personally i'd lean towards trombone. trombone can go very low, sound very intimidating, but they can also go pretty high, and sound noble and kind of adventurous.
gus: ahh ok so gus is kind of this god who has a LOT of power. his center is max. so if max isnt there, there wouldn't be a center. i think gus would have like a full ass orchestra. heavy on the bass to reinforce that he's powerful. i think he'd have almost a movie soundtrack genre. if that makes sense. here's the catch. there's very little flute, no piccolo. max is the piccolo.
nacho: guitar. lot of fingerpicking. nacho doesnt get any of the band instruments because he's not really on either side? he kind of just got wrapped up in the mess and now he can't really get out. probably a lot of high notes because he's continuously yearning for a world he can't really get. also its kind of got that humbleness his family background has.
kaylee: just tap. no instruments. just a 5 year old tap dancing SO loudly for SO long.
tuco: nightcore.
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Master post time!🐢
since I seem to have lost all control, I thought I'd put together this post to organize everything for you peeps!
Cracked Conscience
After Donnie has some rough few nights fighting the purple dragons him and the others are greeted by... A quite interesting version of Donnie's future self? What could this mean?
Main Comic
Chapter 1. Drama and Dragons
Chapter 2. A Different Shade of Purple
CC Ref Sheets
Evil Donnie Ref Sheets (Colored) Evil Donnie Ref Sheets (Linework) Tech Maintenance Fit Ref Sheet Evil Donnie Early Fit Ref Sheet
Future Leo Ref Sheet
Outdated: Evil Donnie Ref Sheets
Q&A With the Hidden City's Most Wanted!
Do you have a burning question to ask our wonderful host? Like their favorite color? What did they do today? Or deep philosophical questions? Or do you just want to give them unwarranted gifts? Well, here is your chance to ask until the feed drops!
⚠️Warning by submitting a question you accept the risk of the following: kidnapping, experimentation, dismemberment, collection, emotional damage, death. Any or all of these may occur per the host's discretion. This contract is legally binding and cannot be broken or altered.⚠️
FAQ: Frequently asked questions
what if I bribe Evil Donnie with uranium?
4th wall breaks (Jack Horner Animatic Related) You're all on my list You Heathen Brother Opinions
Shiny Rock Bribe
Can I Pet him? (Bad Ending)
The Poke/Jupiter Jim Marathon Time!
Snack time with Insults for dessert!
What if I got in a Sparring Match?
Does he like plushies?
How many times have you set a building on fire?
A gift of flowers
WHY ARE YOU GrAY???
GMF: Genetically Modified Furbies
How much sleep have you gotten? (why are you gray pt. 2)
IT'S 15 Rip Bozo (why are you gray pt. 3)
has he always looked this way?
the universe decides
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about the color thing
jobs for hire
Still not kidnapping
Can I dig in your walls?
I wanna study him like a bug
music tastes
shared dumplings
Trick or Treat! (late, whoopsie), Happy Halloween (ft body horror)
one more uranium bribe ought to do
CC Year 1 Anniversary Mini Masterpost 🎈
CC Animatic Corner🎞️
Year 1 Anniversary Animatic (villain/character voice line compilation)
A very important message
Jack Horner Animatic (read disclaimer) Disclaimer: I recommend reading through Chapter 2 of CC. Although a few things have changed/are no longer canon. There are still a few scenes that are relevant to the comic. Therefore I recommend reading through Chpt 2 first to be surprised
How to Train Your Turtle
You like How to Train Your Dragon and Rise of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles? Well, you're in luck! Because these boys are now dragons and poor April is stuck with them after crashing on their island.
Chapter 1. Stranded
Ask Shenanigans
Dragon Logs
Dragon Shenanigans
Pre-Besties April/Donnie dynamic
Mikey the cuddle gremlin
A shiny rock for Donnie, tasty book snack
Have they heard music/do they like it?
will they have mutant forms/can Raph change his size?
#masterpost#ccau#cracked conscience au#crackedconscience#how to train your turtle#httyt#rottmnt au#rottmnt#rise of the tmnt#save rottmnt
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Masterlist!
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Better late than never, yeah? Nowhere NEAR a comprehensive or full masterlist, but it’s what I could manage to do. I’m just glad to have it all together, it took, WAY to long 😭
Also! This will now be attached to my pinned post!
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Random TF2 Headcanons (Pt.1)
Random TF2 Headcanons (Pt.2)
Random TF2 Headcanons (Pt.3)
TF2 Mercs Pizza Preferences!
Scout and Scout's Mom Headcanon
TF2 Mercs at an amusement park!
What Do The TF2 Mercs Hate?
Would Red and Blu Mercs Get Along?
Red And Blu Team Differences!
TF2 Mercs and The Will Wood Songs I Think Fit Best.
What Rhythm Games Do The TF2 Mercs Like and Why?
TF2 Mercs and Their Hobbies!
What's Songs Do The TF2 Mercs Like?
Soldier Headcanons!
How Do the TF2 Mercs Write?
TF2 Mercs At The Beach!
TF2 Mercs Reactions To Finding A Puddle After It Rains!
TF2 Mercs As Animals!
What Are The TF2 Mercs Favorite Animes?
TF2 Mercs Go To The ✨️Barbie✨️ Movie!
TF2 Mercs Cooking And Baking Skills!
What Kind Of Pajamas Do The TF2 Mercs Wear?
What Would The TF2 Mercs (+ Miss Pauling) Do If They Saw A Kitten Mid-Fight?
TF2 Mercs Halloween Costumes!
Mini Headcanon About History
What Are The TF2 Mercs Favorite Bands/Music Artists?
Medic And Junji Ito's Gyo: Tokyo Fish Attack
A Rant About Medic
Would The TF2 Mercs Survive In Their Favorite Video Game World? (+ Their Favorite Video Games)
How Would The TF2 Mercs React To Being Given A VR Headset?
PhDs and the Mercs
TF2 Mercs Getting Their Nails Painted/Nail Designs
Mini Headcanon- The Best Compliment You Can Give Each TF2 Merc!
Medic's Past Headcanons (Also Some Archimedes Content!)
What Would The TF2 Mercs Jobs Be If They Weren't Mercenaries?
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HeavyMedic Angst/Comfort Saga:
Thoughts On Medic Reacting to Heavy's Death (Self Harm Warning)
Pt. 2
Pt. 3 (Suicide Warning)
Medic talking to Zhanna
HeavyMedic Fluff As an Apology For The Angst!
Zhanna Gets her Brother Back, Medic Gets his Lover Back.
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The TF2 Mercs Favorite Books!
Medic and Creepypastas!
How Would the TF2 Mercs React to a Close Teammate Dying In Battle? (Angst)
What Subjects Would The TF2 Mercs Teach?
What Mythical Creatures Would The TF2 Mercs Be?
SpyDad Post
Thoughts On Spy (Comic Spoilers)
Drunk Sniper Thoughts
The TF2 Mercs With A Pet Bunny!
Drunk Scout Thoughts
SpyDad Angst
What Instruments Do The TF2 Mercs Play? (Minus Medic and Sniper!)
SniperScout Angst Headcanons (No Respawn AU)
Scout's Reaction to Losing His Voice
TF2 Mercs Comforting A Trans Man/Nonbinary Person On Their Period!
How Scout got his Top Surgery
The TF2 Mercs Reactions to A Nightmare!
Soldier and PTSD
SniperScout First Date
❤️Red Demo + Blu Soldier💙
Scout and Chronic Pain
Swordvan Headcanons!
Sniper Loses an Eye HC (ft. Swordvan)
Spy/SpyDad Characterization
Medic Thoughts
Hyperflexible Spy and Scout
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Headcanon Ask Game Ft. The TF2 Mercs:
Heavy
Demoman
Sniper and Engineer
Soldier
Spy
Scout
Pyro
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Thoughts on the Heavy Part of HeavyMedic
❤️Red Sniper + Blu Spy💙
Mercs Reaction To Finding Snow In The Morning!
The TF2 Mercs Spice Tolerance!
TF2 Mercs as Taffy Flavors
Talkative Medic Thoughts
DemoSolly First Date
Mixed Headcanons
The TF2 Mercs Favorite Flowers + Their Reaction to Receiving Them
What Merc is the Worst at a Checkup?
HeavyTF2 Tummy Fic (Body Positivity)
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Jamison Breaks Down the Meet the Merc Videos (Work in Progress):
Jamison Breaks Down: Meet the Medic
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Ask Game Headcanons Pt.2 Ft. The TF2 Mercs:
Pyro
Medic
Engineer
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Engineer Headcanons
Fête des Pères
TF2 Mercs as Cats!
Updated LGBTQ+ Mercs Headcanons (Pictures)
Nazi Medic Thoughts (It's bad.)
Medic TF2 Thoughts
Spy's Past
Medic's Past
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Flufftober 2024! {Under Construction!}
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Thoughts on Spy in Expiration Date
Trans Mercs (+ Miss Pauling) Headcanons!
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TF2 Ship HCS!
EngieScout Hcs
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And more to come!
#tf2#team fortress 2#tf2 demoman#tf2 engineer#tf2 heavy#tf2 medic#tf2 scout#tf2 sniper#tf2 spy#tf2 soldier#tf2 pyro#tf2 headcanons#masterlist#writing masterlist#Dear lord this took a long time
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Possibly unpopular opinion: I don't like how EPIC the musical wrapped up the threat of Poseidon in the Vengeance Saga.
Spoilers ahead, in case anyone's picked up on the musical recently but hasn't gotten through the most recent batch of songs yet
First off, Odysseus is a guile hero. He's a trickster, he wins through tactics and knowing his foe and planning and occasionally a little extra godly help. This is usually at least referenced in his various conflicts, but in Six Hundred Strike he took down a literal god in the literal god's own literal surf using, apparently, a really powerful anime style strike. Brute force.
I'll grant that maybe Rule of Cool lets this one slide, as does the trope and concept of a character being pushed past their breaking point and therefore achieving something they normally couldn't. It didn't hit me right in this particular instance but that doesn't mean it's a bad story element, you know? So okay, he takes Poseidon down with pure physical/hysterical strength in the middle of the ocean. Sure.
What really gets me is that, while using Poseidon's immortality against him does work, it doesn't feel like it should have solved the ultimate problem. I know that it's going to because the narrative demands it! Because this was meant to be the end! But it feels very hand-of-the-author to claim that this one victory will prevent Poseidon, characterized in this musical as utterly vengeful and ruthless, from ultimately winning in the long term.
If the characters acted like the people they are characterized as, if they weren't restrained by the story saying "and that's the end of that," then the most logical result of the Vengeance Saga is that Poseidon would retreat into the ocean, maybe spend some time licking his wounds, and then he'd raise the tidal waves he threatened and destroy the entirety of Ithaca, Odysseus and his family included.
The best argument I can imagine to that is that Poseidon would rather kill Odysseus with his own two hands, given how he delayed just wrecking that raft for his own satisfaction, and that he wouldn't want to get that close to Odysseus again.
But, hell. He can't go letting Odysseus walk or the world forgets he's cold, right? Don't mistake his threats for bluffs.
Somehow, with characterization like that, this doesn't feel like a satisfying (logical, sensible) end at all.
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Another fandom time!! Epic the musical dropping in
Only took me uhhh .... almost 8 entire sagas to draw them fully haha . My bad
My explanation why Post-Troy Ody doesn't have longer hair because 10 years is way longer than 7 years, is that second image. Man's just taking breaks to cut his hair with a damn sword and still looks good when doing it
And the rest is. Ow
#star art#ren's blorbos#epic the musical#epic the musical odysseus#epic odysseus#epic the musical polites#epic the musical eurylochus#epic eurylochus#epic polites#lets put some Cause of Death scars on those spirits WOO#ody really be looking pathetic wet AND cat
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