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aeneid 6.638-41, 6.672-5 trans. a.s. kline / plutarch, life of tiberius gracchus 9.4-5 trans. perrin
#aeneid daily#now i understand that this is a parallel for me and me alone and also it is barely even there. BUT. but.#(and bear in mind idk what plutarch's source for this speech was + he was writing After vergil)#a) i think it is very interesting that tiberius gracchus says that about the lack of graves. when the air and light thing in the aeneid is#in The Underworld#b) 'they are styled masters of the world' / the (future) glory of rome shown to aeneas in aeneid 6 vs like. the pessimistic reading of it#via dead marcellus. sure is something#c) something something the gracchi -> chain of events -> the social war. and it is VERY fun to think about the social war in the bg of#the aeneid.#d) um. lucan. this parallel literally was only noticeable to me because of the What If The Popularis Ghosts Did Underworld Agrarian Reform#And Redistributed The Elysian Fields thing in the pharsalia#which is mostly?????? me going haha. what if. but also. WHAT IF??? i do think it's There even if it's not the main thing happening in that#whole situation. and now im like. what if this is yet another instance of 'something cool in lucan was actually also in vergil all along'#much to consider. when it is not The Night.#aeneid#plutarch#beeps
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pussy so good he forgets about his gods-given quest
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Excerpt from The Song of Roland, translated by Norma Lorre Goodrich (Medieval Myths)
#THIS HAS BEEN A PET PROJECT. I FUCKING LOVE THE SONG OF ROLLAND#song of roland#clay does art#so. okay bear with me#the song of Roland / chanson de rollanz was an epic poem written in the 11th century about the real battle of Roncevaux Pass in#the 8th century.#so 11th c ? we are smack in those middle ages#and its old copies were recorded as illuminated manuscripts#yet! it is technically an epic!! its an epic poem!!!! I don’t believe there were many written between Roland and the Aeneid (19 BCE)#in the west?#so like . WILD COMEBACK!!#this comic (?) is me playing with this idea of both muddling and clarifying the reality (8th c. real battle. he died.)#with the context of the poem (11th c. chivalric code. this was the hamilton of the time I must assume)#the translation from old french (flows better in modern English than it does in modern french apparently?)#and me. making it a scrolling comic. inspiration from real armor of the 8th century#although 11th c manuscripts armor them like they’re contemporary#I did hand lettering! as a manuscript would be!!#but my composition is wildly different than theirs#I could go on ! but I shant. ty for reading#no id#< I do not. know how . I would do this one#long post#kinda
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wdym i have to "write essays" and "complete assignments" instead of what i was born to do: listen to loud music and watch spring come in
#who gives a shit about the aeneid who cares about how much of history we can piece together about herodotus#the peach blossom is out??? the apple blossom is blooming???
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Fuck it, classics predictions for Tumblr in 2024
Terfs will go so far in their bio essentialism that they will insist that women are fundamentally cold and wet and men are hot and dry, due to being cooked more in the womb
Fake Tumblr activism will accidentally bring back the Oppian Laws
Aeneas will become Tumblrs new poor little meow meow but only after someone publishes a retelling where he and Turnus are in love
Someone invents another fake goddess
Oracle of Delphi blog emerges to catalogue Tumblr moments of prophecy
#these are all terrible. please tell me if you have your own#i do think if someone pitched aeneas and turnus as toxic enemies to lovers the aeneid would do numbers on here. for better or for worse#tagamemnon#classics memes
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I may have a problem
#the iliad#iliad#the odyssey#odyssey#the aeneid#aeneid#homer#virgil#vergil#greek mythology#tagamemnon#trojan war#homeric epics
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his father’s son
#neoptolemus#pyrrhus#tagamemnon#<- tbh idek what that tag is used for but i see people tagging greek mythology art with it so good enough for me#the aeneid#the iliad#greek mythology#greek myth art#i just finished the aeneid and after 8 years the greek/roman mythology phase has returned in full force#my art#virgil was really onto something there i see why dante was all over him
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cycle of violence enjoyers when the violence is cyclical
#me reading the aeneid watching aeneas kill and kill and kill#also i recently watched afro samurai and it was soooooo cycle of violence it was insane#queueusque tandem abutere catilina patientia nostra
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Is there a reason Zeus hates Odysseus?
Where? In the odyssey I don't think he cares much for him haha. He kills his crew at Helios' behest (otherwise he would shine for the dead instead), because Odysseus' men had killed his cows. He's pretty ambivalent to Odysseus throughout the epic otherwise.
Unless you mean epic the musical, then I have no idea
#wolfy tedtalks#the only guy who really has a vendetta against him is poseidon#same with hera and aeneas in the aeneid i hear
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once i start posting in latin it’s over for y’all
#i feel like we as a society must stop recognizing english as a universal tongue and go back to latin#tagamemnon#classics#classical literature#the aeneid#greek mythology#latin literature#roman mythology#latin#latin language#lingua latina
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🌊Sad Soggy Boat Men Tournament🌊
Round 4A (semifinals), match 1
Propaganda and image sources under the cut (warning for possible spoilers):
propaganda for Odysseus:
image from Wikipedia
propaganda for Aeneas:
image from here
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ok these r the last aeneas’ for a bit (that is probably a lie)
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aeneas makes me crazy dude. he never cared for the future of rome. all he ever wanted was in troy. people kept trying to tell him "its gonna be okay youre gonna make rome" and he went along with it because it was keeping the last things he had of troy alive. he sailed to so many places looking for a place that was safe to call home. no one would take them. he found other trojans, even! and his cousin (helenus) looked him in the eyes and said "you need to go to a land we aren't even sure exists". other trojans wouldn't take them. when he tried to assimilate in carthage, a safe place for his people and for Didos, the gods forced him to leave the person he'd fallen in love with in the most violent and horrible way possible. despite his best efforts troy is slipping from his hands. its been gone the day his fleet left the shore.
aeneas can't be human. he has to be a vessel for the gods exact, contradictory wills at all times or else the last people he has of his home will die. aeneas was named terrible grief for the grief he cause venus by being mortal, but it fits more the grief the gods have caused him. the gods willed him to be born. the gods started the war that destroyed his home, that killed his cousins. the gods turned him away from his fellow trojans. the gods forced him to break the heart of the woman he loved and the only other person hed met that somewhat understood. the gods forced him to war a second time.
aeneas grieves the life he couldve had had he just been a man. aeneas grieves himself who died in troy
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Illustrations by Anatolii Bazylevych.
More illustrations from Anatolii Bazylevych to Ivan Kotlyarevsky’s poem Aeneid (1982) can be found here.
#Ukraine#Ukrainian artists#art#graphic art#illustrations#Anatolii Bazylevych#Anatoliy Bazylevych#Ivan Kotlyarevsky#Aeneid
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#iliad#odyssey#aeneid#virgil#homer the poet#homer's iliad#homer's odyssey#virgil's aeneid#classical civilisation#classics#greek gods#roman gods#greek mythology#roman mythology#greeks#romans#epics#homeric epics#virgils epic#classical mythology#roman classics#classical history#mediterranean history#ancient history#ancient greek#ancient greece#ancient rome#classics meme#classics memes#tagamemnon
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