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jimingyue · 1 year ago

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🖋️ meowful-musings Follow

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what's wrong with dry food??? my humans feed me it all the time and i think it's fine

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op wheres the natural feeding option

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you guys are getting fed?

#im a barn cat so maybe im missing something here #meowtthew don't look

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☀️ pawsitive-affurmations Follow

ITS OKAY TO BE A MOGGIE

YOU ARE NOT LESS VALID IF YOU ARE NOT A SPECIFIC PEDIGREE!!!!!

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extra special shout out to cats who have "common" coat colors. grey tabbies and black cats i am rubbing against your head affectionately <3

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as a grey tabby i really needed to hear this :"3

#i feel like i never see positivity posts for moggies even tho we're the most common type of cat....

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🎵 rage-against-the-meowchine Follow

i cant believe there are cats ACTUALLY advocating for kittens to be separated from their mothers before 12 weeks??? kittens still need to learn how to interact with other cats before being placed into their furever home omg you guys know you're advocating for undersocialized and aggressive cats right

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um op some of us??? matured early??????? i was separated from my mother at 7 weeks and i turned out fine... interesting how you assume that kittens being separated from their mothers at a younger age will lead to the degeneracy of the next generation...hmm i wonder where i've heard that before...

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OP got bit too hard during a play-fight as a kitten and it shows XD

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also op have you ever considered that just because somecat is kind of scared and unable to deal with strange cats or humans, it doesn't mean they don't deserve to be adopted?? you sound like a vet psyop honestly

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oh meow god saying that kittens should be fully weaned before leaving their mother is NOT veterinarian rhetoric and i never said that they deserve to be euthanized!!! my mother literally died when i was 3 weeks old and it seriously messed up my development so stop putting words in my mouth, thanks

anyway friendly reminder that underweaned kittens are prone to illness and often struggle with basic cat behaviors like litterbox usage, and in some nyavinces it's even considered kitten abuse

#discourse #cant believe "kitten abuse is bad" is controversial now

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BORN TO DIE

WORLD IS A FUCK

猫神 Kill Em All 1989

I am trash cat

410,757,864,530 DEAD BIRDS

#outdoorliving #outdoorcats please interact #outdoorcat friendly

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can't believe cats are uncritically reblogging that born to die world is a fuck post. i know it's funny but op is literally an outdoor cat truther

#like cmon now you just have to go to their blog #lulu speaks

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gentle reminder that pushing cups off the table is not cute and can cause a lot of distress in your human!!!! gentle reminder that our teeth and claws can easily hurt them more than they can hurt us!!!!

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evil reminder that the cup should always be pushed off the table. evil reminder that you should always bite and claw at your human no matter what. you can do whatever you want forever

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make your own pawst

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umm i know a tomcat who did that and his human ended up putting him down so...

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Nyaverage shelter cat behavior

#not nyaruto #re-nyab #pickles shut up

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saw two male cats sleeping together on the porch today. homeow behavior imo

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hey um what the fuck??? it's really not okay of you to go assuming other cat's sexualities, especially cats you don't even know???? as a queer cat i'm VERYY uncomfortable. real-ass cats didn't consent to your nyaoi fetish, thanks

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1. i was making. a joak

2. i'm literally gay???

#literally what's your pawblem

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reblog if you've ever caught the laser pointer

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i know you fuckers are lying

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this tom hasn't caught the laser pointer

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shut the heull up

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grey toebeans >>>>>>>>> pink toebeans and don't let the haters make you believe otherwise

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op shut the fuck up ALL toebeans are beautiful!!! just bc you're miserable and insecure doesn't mean you can bring others down based on things they can't control

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oh so the cat-human separationist wants to preach to us

#long post #cat #fake dashboard #unreality #dashboard simulator

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generalluxun · 3 months ago

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Who do you think is more fitting to be “Creator’s Pet” of the show: Astruc’s virtual daughter Marinette or perfect and flawless Adrien?

Okay, before I start- I don't like the term creator's pet, it tends to suggest currying favor on the 'pet' part, and obviously Marinette or Adrien can't do that.

Perhaps 'favorite'? and let me lay some ground rules.

This is not character salt! Nothing here should be used to deride the characters. This is about the narrative woven with/around them. This is examining the external biases at play.

We must recognize that Marinette is the PoV character for the show. That is value-neutral. We can't hold screen time as evidence.

That said let's tackle Adrien being 'perfect' first. I know the show and creator use that word a lot but it is very clear in the show that ... He's not. He makes mistakes, he gets *called out* for his mistakes, he gets upset, he apologizes. He's not perfect.

So, why/how/what is the purpose of the perfect mantra in the show? It's because Adrien is a *trophy*. He was Gabriel's trophy, and now he's Marinette's. A trophy must be 'perfect', or how can it be a trophy? He makes no demands(his flirting as Cat Noir was shown as him being wrong and he corrected his behavior to be more perfect), he gives everything, he carries emotional baggage and costs nothing.

All of his perfection benefits *other people* in the narrative, not himself. Does that sound like a favorite? No it sounds like something you *give* to your favorite.

Because yes, I do believe Marinette suffers from an above-average attachment by her creator(and some fans) I say suffers from because I think it hurts her as a character. Superficially it seems to her benefit, but below the surface it's empty calories.

Marinette makes mistakes too, but they are always framed as best intentions. At the end of any disagreement she is the one in the right. Her pain is always the focus/valid one in any situation. S5 amped this up to the point I call it 'Poor Mari' when it happens. Any emotional situation must make you sympathize with Marinette first and often only. It doesn't matter what or who is involved. The entire Agreste Arc has been summed up by the emotional impact *Adrien's family being the villains and his father dying* have on *Marinette* not Adrien. Marinette gets the sympathy for someone else's crisis. How weird is that? It's not even that she did anything wrong (before the lie) but no one else seems to be allowed to experience more emotion than she does, no matter the situation.

That is a strange choice and one that hurts the narrative and her character. (As they find new/more/repeat ways to put her in emotional turmoil to keep her always center all the time)

As an example from before S5, we can look at how Luka/Kagami were handled. It's two parallel situations, handled at the same time. How they're handled gives the insight you are asking for.

Marinette's struggle is the first an foremost thing in Truth. Luka is the sweetest bean, and even when he's akumatized it is all about her pain the end and her having to break up with him. He's upset but he never blames her, never corrects her. After the breakup he is still completely supportive and always there. He works to find her happiness, even though he openly admits to still being in love with her. Marinette is handled gently and put on a pedestal.

Meanwhile, Lies focuses more on Kagami and her efforts to connect with Adrien who is pining for Ladybug( just as Marinette is pining for Adrien) She gets mad at him. She breaks up with him. She holds him accountable for his behavior. She gets over him. When she finally joins team Adrienette it is for *Marinette's* sake, not Adrien's. (MP72)

So yes, Marinette is favored heavily, beyond simply 'the main character' she is the center of this world physically and emotionally in a way that is only more noticable as time goes on.

Oh- and another easy metric: How many people have said Marinette is the best Ladybug ever vs. has anyone ever given Cat Noir the time of day except Ladybug when she felt bad about leaving him out of the loop?

#ask #miraculous ladybug #narrative favoritism #not salt #analysis #don't bring any saline to this discussion #narrative choices #marinette dupain cheng #adrien agreste

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brekkie-e · 4 months ago

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Listen, I get that a lot of people's dislike of white-haired Lavellan's comes from over exposure, which is valid and happens to the best of us. But most of the time, when I see posts about folks not liking them, the frustration centers around them being this unearthly ethereal white-haired barbie doll. And I'm sure that is also common.

But as someone who loves my dinky white haired Lavellan, and also feels like she's one of my most human characters, I want to ramble about all the ways she is not just a beautiful barbie doll power fantasy. Because my nerd is pretty. She IS. But she also has the puffiest under eyes you ever saw. Depending on the day, there may be dark circles. There isn't a cream on the market that can make this lady look properly rested. When you combine that with the near constant sunburn on her nose turning it red, she has the air of someone that is in a permanent state of allergy season.

Going from the top down, she also has a tooth gap. And while we are here, they are pretty darn crooked. Thedas doesn't have orthodontists. I wouldn't say she has horrible teeth. But she has perfectly human imperfect teeth that make for a memorable smile for all the wrong (right) reasons.

Her left ear is missing a big chunk out of it from being hit by an arrow. It gives her the same lightly ragged look of a stray cat.

She has moles. The one on her chin grows a long and shockingly white hair out of it. She pulls it out. If it's because she's insecure about it or because picking at it is a nervous tick, she doesn't even know at this point because she's done it for so many years.

The hair on her arms is very fine and white. It is also very, very fuzzy. The kind of peach fuzz that catches the light and makes itself known. It didn't bother her when she lived with her clan because she has a lot of siblings, and they all have it. But someone casually remarks on it during her time with the Inquisition, maybe in jest saying her arms look more like a dwarf's than an elf's. Suddenly, she wears sleeves a lot more often.

I am pretty attached to the bean pole frame Lavellan gets in Inquisition because it's hard to headcanon out for me when it's constantly there on screen. That being said, her legs have some hefty cellulite going on in the back of those thighs. Her flat little ass is dimpled. There are stretch marks on the insides of her thighs, and on her butt. She thinks that's unfair given her complete and utter lack of curves. Knees? Knobby. Her shins always have bruises on them from bumping into something or another.

Various other things I think about and am fond of for her. Her sword hand is calloused. It's often dry and cracked, with hang nails like a construction worker. She tries to take care of it, but how do you out self-care the kind of wear and tear constant travel and fighting does to a person.

Her eyebrows are so pale and thin that it doesn't even look like she has them half the time. Her scalp can get sunburns where her hair parts. She gets a pimple in the same spot like clockwork every time her period comes around. She has one toe that's just inexplicably uglier than the rest.

And she's still pretty. She's still little miss doomed by the narrative.

Secretly, I didn't really have a point to this post beyond wanting to talk about my character's endearing imperfections. But I'll try to wrap this up with something coherent. You can use the stereotypical "pretty" color palette and still create a deeply human character. You can also use a unique color palette and still end up with a design or attitude that gives off "this character's sweat smells like roses and peonys."

I'm not saying that white-haired Lavellan's don't come with the baggage of over-exposure or the weight of heavy handed white savior energy. I'm not saying they can't be done badly. I am just sad thinking there are other folks out there that see all the "stereotypical Lavellan" posts, and also feel a knee-jerk impulse to redesign a beloved oc to be more like-able. At the end of the day, oc's are for their creator. Nobody is going to like your oc more than you. So make one that speaks to you.

And hey. Maybe you are guilty of making your oc's perfect pretty Barbie dolls. Nothing wrong with a pretty lady (or man but that's not really the point of the post.) But speaking for myself, I fall a little in love with every oc someone gives a perfectly normal "defect" to. So next time you find yourself making a hot girl... mix it up a bit and consider giving her toe hair. You might be surprised by how much that detail sticks with you.

#dragon age #brekkie thoughts #lavellan #solavellan #kind of sort of #this is definitely more relevant in solavellan corners #im not really trying to change peoples minds on white haired Lavellan's #ik that ship has mostly sailed #but i see enough posts about the topic and these thoughts have built up about it over the past few years #i like lavellans in all shapes and colors #but im not changing mine just cause it's over done #she is too special to me #also im well aware her imperfections are just “normal”#my point is kind of that she's not a barbie not that she's grotesque #and that normal bodies should be loved in all the ways they come

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rouge-fauna · 22 days ago

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It is really sad honestly, and I've had similar things happen to myself too with many many friendship falling outs. Both cc discduo believe the other has manipulated, been dishonest and faked their friendship. Dream has understandable valid reasons to believe this, tommy seems to believe it due to influence from his fans and friends and because he misinterpreted Dreams dms to him as manipulative because the dms are emotional. And in general many people tend to see emotional = manipulative. Like how people view "am i annoying you" msgs as manipulative. I do not at all believe that their entire friendship was a lie, and I dont believe they were never close and were just coworkers, based on their past intereactions and based on how upset Dream is, he clearly cared otherwise he wouldnt be sending those messages and getting upset on stream about it. People think he's obsessed with tommy for saying tommy has a good heart, but this is how you speak about an ex-friend, its not obsessive. Its sad. On top of that all the shit dream has had to cop with and tommy only making it worse. That said, I don't think tommy faked the friendship because tommy did defend dream a lot post-allegations from his own friends and fans, and checked up on him regularly but I do think its fucked now that tommy is acting like this , playing victim, feeding into his fanbases bs. Its clear to me that tommy genuinely thinks dream wronged him, but at the same time tommy is doing this to get more popularity. Another thing is when dream said that if it werent for the fanbases, then he and tommy might have been okay, I completely agree with that too, I've noticed since the start that the fandom has constantly torn into discduos friendship, analyizing every little detail to the point where it was straining their dynamic. Anyway...

those stats for prison arc damnn I had no idea ctommy did allthat, and the fact he killed the cat. I get why you would not watch exile arc rn, I've had to stop my whole dsmp rewatch plans cause of this, might return to it in 4 months

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I’m not so sure if it was the fandom that turned Tommy against Dream or perhaps Tommy grew up and realized he needed to stand up for himself. Do I think Dream is this big evil manipulator? No, I think whatever Dream did he wasn’t aware of how he was coming across - like Tubbo talked about in his stream about how the majority of the content creators thought he was taking credit for their success when that wasn’t true. But just because someone doesn’t mean to hurt someone or come across a certain way doesn’t mean that they didn’t and that the other person’s feelings are invalid. Additionally, I think you can be hurt by something in retrospect without that other person being a shit person or whatever. For example, in retrospect after my first kiss I realized how uncomfortable and such I felt and how I felt violated afterwards, but here’s the thing, that doesn’t make the guy who kissed me a bad guy. He asked for consent and I gave it, in the moment I didn’t know what I was feeling till afterwards and afterwards I felt violated and manipulated into it. But I still don’t think he really meant to do that or that he is this shitty terrible guy, just because I feel this way after the fact. You can feel things even if they don’t make sense. So I think perhaps Tommy does feel a certain way in his retrospect and as he gets older feels like Dream wronged him and stuff, but the things is feelings don’t make something true. Feelings are always valid yes- but they are not truth. In fact, in the theme of comparing c! to cc!s, I think this is one of c!Tommy’s big character flaws. That he turns his feelings into truth. He felt like no one visited him in exile therefore no one visited him. Which obviously isn’t true. So perhaps this is a flaw within cc!Tommy too that he mistakes emotions for truth so because he feels wronged by Dream that makes Dream a wrong’un. Which is a very scuffed way to view things especially when you take your younger self’s view at face value. Because here’s the thing, when you are younger you have such limited experiences to look and view the world and you often make connections and opinions and observations you take into adulthood based on this limited experience. So perhaps Tommy was hurt by Dream but that doesn’t make Dream bad, clearly he was just being a good friend and helping him….

Yea I was pretty surprised. Like that’s only the things we see too, who knows how much theoretical stuff happened in those other weeks of them being stuck together. Like we literally see Tommy hit Dream more times on stream than we do Quackity. And Quackity is supposed to be the torturer, mind you of course, Quackity was hitting Dream with swords and shears and lots of it happened off camera, still… I found that interesting…

#sorry this got lost in my drafts on accident oops… totally thought I posted it yesterday… no idea if I had other thoughts then but oh well #…. not gonna lie as far as the Dream situation goes he killed it in his video and not gonna lie I hope Tommy doesn’t end up taking down #every video with Dream is it because that’d be really unfortunate for the sake of lore research and such but dang it would be funny.#like a lot of Tommy’s top videos include Dream…. and no videos on Dream’s channel include Tommy… like bro got him good XD lol #hello there #can then please make up now…. I feel like it’s time for the irl finale ;D #dreamblr #drema

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differentnighttale · 6 months ago

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Myself and Asexuality

Yeah, so this is a lil rant about my relationship as being a grey ace girl.

For the longest time, I wasn't attracted to guys, the other way like my peers and I couldn't relate. All my crushes were all romantic and shit but sometimes I do feel the other attraction and sometimes I won't feel it for a month then boom, it comes, and it makes me so uncomfortable. And even I, an older sophomore couldn't believe that people younger than me already freaky ahh thoughts and I didn't.

Other older aces have told me, hey, you might just a late bloomer and did agree because I did feel it but, hey it never strayed that far sometimes and I found myself desiring guys a lot then poof, it goes away.

By then, I used to identify as closely as heteroromantic Grey Ace then.

Right now, I did feel more allo today, but it was still not as wild or intense.

Don't get me wrong, guys, being ace is a SPECTRUM, a very broad and diverse one. Your experiences might not be the same as other people though and that's okay, it's your journey and your trip, hey, you might be wrong, or you might be right, or you might be right.

Try different labels to see if it fits, if it does brava and if it doesn't it's a oh kay.

Okay, Andamo.

Well, to dive in deeper to my experiences. It is my experience with grey asexuality, Aspecs are valid and Arospecs are valid.

I would DNF a book if it's completely filed with NSFW content, I feel very bad about this thought as a reader, I love romance and I crave hand holding, movies and couple stuff but if the couple are constantly at each other, I would DNF the book.

I was once into a very good book, but the content was too much for me but hey, what about the cute moments, I enjoyed it Tho. The laughers sweet face and the cats. Don't forgot the pets.

So yeah.

Ace and Aspec people can love and enjoy content like that. That doesn't mean their less or not ace. Fiction is different from reality; this is just me. Every ace person is different.

I cannot get into NSFW manhwas again unless, it is cute and fluffy and romantic and censored, then I'll enjoy it by scrolling. It's too intense, ew the making out. Or l will overlook it like a mean girl.

Yeah, My friends were right.

I don't judge people's experiences in that manner, I will actually be suspired ad interested and secretly wishing that was me sometimes but overall, I am pretty neutral to indifferent.

But I can write it.

Aces and Aspec can write that, we are very good at it.

Guys, but there are a lot of positive aces not all of us are repulsed by it. Grazie.

Then to me, I dislike wearing short skirts and crop tops, it is sometimes empowering but overall, I do not like it. It makes me uncomfortable, and I hate it, no matter how much I get praised. I feel judged.

Again, Aces and Aspec people can dress all hot and stuff, that doesn't mean they are in fact less ace.

On top of that, figuring out that I am probably very huge probably bisexual or biromantic, complicating my feelings because as for girls is either aesthetic attraction, nervousness or staring then boom goes the bomb, the other way.

Thank you for listening to my TEDtalk.

Midcrop.

(If I said anything wrong or offensive, please tell me. I am a baby ace and trying to shed the light to world and this is my experiences. I censor certain words, so it goes to other audiences too.)

Ciao ,for now.

#rant post #personal #personal post #personal thoughts #ace pride #acespec #asexual spectrum #asexual #queer #queer writers #lgbtq

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theerurishipper · 1 year ago

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Ok I am going to be controversial. If I'm honest, I don’t really understand the desire for Adrien to turn his back on Ladybug at the end of Strikeback. That's partly because I don't completely get what the writers intended Adrien’s struggle to be about in Season 4. I understand what Ladybug did wrong, but my thing is…

Does CN ever actually express to LB why he is upset in Season 4? Does he ever try to reason with her or advocate for himself?

I don’t remember him approaching the real issue until they were under Risk’s influence and he says “maybe that’s because you never tell me anything.” I also remember that overall fallout feeling really muddy throughout the season.

From what I see, Chat Noir’s most valid reason for being upset is because she’s keeping him, her loyal partner, at a distance. She’s not communicating as well to the point that he ends up confused, outside of the plan a few times. He finds out she told someone her identity even though she's always been massively against that. Toward the end, he discovers she’s been working with an active Rena Furtive without making him aware. She said nothing between them would change, but he can sense this new distance and her secrecy. He doesn't quite know what to make of it, but he can't help but feel a bit betrayed. He deserves at least to know things like when a new Ladybug shows up at random or a secret miraculous holder being in the field with them.

So you'd think that would be the clear cut reason, but I'm not sure? The writing gives mixed messages and Adrien brings a lot of his own baggage to the table. The increased neglect and secrecy by Ladybug is one facet , but if we’re being honest about what we were shown, there are some more factors:

The side effects of the guardianship in itself. The nature of the guardianship means Ladybug is now a leader responsible for the kwami and involving many more holders. More holders make defeating Monarch easier and Paris more safe, but it also means less time as a duo and more competition to play on CN’s insecurity. He worried about his being replaced as early as Season 3 with Carapace. His insecurity is exacerbated by her distance, but also by more holders in general. The average person might not have been as upset at getting a "break" for a few rounds, but to Adrien, it's a sign that he is finally being replaced. Even if he knew about Rena Furtive, I’m willing to bet he still would have felt uneasy about her threatening their relationship.

He is in love with her. Kuro Neko’s messaging is all over the place, but Plagg wasn’t completely wrong. Ladybug’s increased distance and secrecy hurts 50 times worse because Chat Noir is in love with her. If he were in love with Marinette instead at that point, he might even enjoy the extra load off and having fun with his friends at school, but he is very much in love with Ladybug. That makes his suffering hit much harder.

He’s upset about Carapace and Rena Rouge knowing each other's identities even though he can’t know Ladybug’s. To be fair, I rate the other holders' identities BS pretty low on my list of things to rage at Ladybug about because after Season 3 when all the heroes were revealed and Ladybug continued to give the same heroes their miraculous while also still being really anxious over identities, it was so nonsensical that I chalked it up to plot convenience rather than Marinette just being this stupid and risky. The show was not about to design new hero models so logic be damned. I don’t blame her for this anymore than I blame Chat Noir for being stupidly bad in battle at random a.k.a nerfed to make Ladybug look better. I also acknowledge the rules for the Ladybug and Cat miraculous hold an elevated risk. If Monarch knows Rena and Carapace identities he maybe has two new miraculous. If he knows Ladybug and Cat’s identities, he has his wish and the world is rewritten.

His father also started neglecting him more after a big change in their lives. He’s projected his relationship with his father onto his relationship with Ladybug as early as Glaciator when she didn’t make it to his date. So possible PTSD.

There are also the reasons that the fandom projects onto Adrien as things he 'should' be upset about, but is never actually upset about and have never had any canon ground:

She’s the leader and the only holder with a cure. They’ve never been exactly equal despite that one line and he’s never had an issue with this on the battlefield. He only wants to know what’s going on. If he does have some leftover resentment at Fu not choosing or training him, his beef is with Fu.

He doesn’t know other holders identities. He’s only ever cared to know Ladybug’s. And this may be controversial opinion, but even if he wanted Ladybug to tell him the other holders’ identities, would he be justified in that? He’s not a guardian. Why is he entitled to demand the guardian hand them over? Especially without their permission?

Her plan with Luka to reveal their identities and erase his memory. This is to me her most egregious offense in season 4 and if he knew about it, it would make the argument against his forgiveness much stronger in my eyes. But he doesn’t. And it becomes obsolete information after the episode.

Even with all these heavy factors, all valid reasons to be upset, the only reason that validates righteous anger from CN’s pov and doesn’t make him look like kind of a tool is her secrecy around Rena Furtive and him discovering her keeping him out of the loop on some need to know info in Hacksan and one or two other eps. Emotionally, it goes much deeper than this for him. But these represent her responsibility in the matter.

The reason I can't see him justified in cutting ties with her in Strikeback though is that... this doesn't come up? He can't say he's tried to communicate with her. Nothing like “you’re keeping things I need to know from me and I don’t like it” or “you said things wouldn’t change between us as partners but you’ve distanced yourself from me. we started this together”. Nothing before Strikeback. I could see if he'd tried to talk about it and she dismissed him and didn’t try to fix things. But there’s no conversation around this in particular.

The weird thing is a lot of the other reasons come up in canon through his voice or someone else’s or both. He’s in love with her. He doesn't know what he'd do without her. All the new partners make him feel insecure and irrelevant. Why can’t we know each others’ identity and they can? In other words, the reasons that make him seem overemotional and self centered. These reasons also all center her or the desire for her love and adoration rather than his feelings as her partner. That’s what’s highlighted in Season 4.

But the actual legit criticism and bone to be picked with Ladybug herself does not come out of his mouth until he is under Risk's influence. Even then, it’s a one-liner. I don’t remember him ever actually trying to touch on the real problem with her prior to that. He either smiles and shrugs it off, even when she asks if he is ok, or he lashes out and runs away. He doesn’t breach the topic and if he doesn’t communicate it, how can they work through it?

Kuro Neko was the perfect opportunity to have Adrien really vent, but the initial argument is a textbook miscommunication. He shows up smiling over his pain and cracking jokes. Therefore she doesn’t realize how upset he is. Then he pushes the subject even though she’s out of time and she snaps at him for not listening. Hurt, he snaps back and runs. Plagg blames it on heartbreak alone. Ladybug takes that bait and laments that there’s nothing she can do but dote on him a bit because hey he’s just heartbroken. She's not responsible for his unrequited love. At the end, he never mentions the legitimate issues and nothing is ever wrapped up. That’s where I start to think, did the writers even mean for him feeling diminished as a ‘partner’ to be a real issue? Did they intend for this to be a lovesick issue from the start?

I don’t think this is just on Ladybug being impossible to talk to because of some vibe she sends out or her making sad face. Chat Noir has been pretty cross with Ladybug before over other less justified matters and she didn’t crumble or smote him. She did throw him in the trash but that took 4 seasons of being calm and reasonable in the face of some behavior that wasn’t always great on his part. He is usually the one supporting her, but she managed not to meltdown while he was struggling in Guilttrip and Reverser and support him. She’s not glass and she’s not his father and I think he knows that on some level. I think his lack of communication is partially his upbringing.

I think a decent percentage of the rage at LB in Season 4 is made more intense and inflated in combination with all those other factors. We as the viewers know Adrien's trauma, how starved for love he is, what little support system he has vs the act he puts on as both Adrien and Chat Noir. We know too the meta fact that the writers never allowed CN the dignity to be rightfully upset about it or voice his most valid displeasure at anytime except when he was under the influence of a villain.

Taking the show at surface level, I can see him forgiving her. I just wished they had talked about it. Adrien isn't helpless in the face of Ladybug. He's faced Gabriel. He went to school and told him he didn't want to model and opened up about feeling like his father never wants to talk to him. so I know he can be more honest with Ladybug without a villain spell. The only reason I can think of it never reaching that point is because the writers didn't want it to. Not only do I think that he would have expressed himself well and honestly enough if given the moment, but I think there’s a good chance Ladybug would have tried to fix things if she actually knew what he was upset about and didn't reduce it to 'he's in love with me.' Which I can't completely blame her for. She had help from both Plagg and Adrien.

I really miss early Adrien anyhow. He took a lot more flack then because he messed up more because he actually had a personality that allowed him to disagree and have sassy moments. Sometimes he was right, sometimes wrong, but at least he felt more layered.

Whew, this is a long ask! I'll take this part by part.

The thing is, I don't want him to turn his back on Ladybug in Strikeback. I've said before that I love that scene. What spoils is for me is that the conflict is never addressed after that episode, and it just makes it come off as Chat Noir pushing away his hurt to be there for Ladybug once more. Like he just accepted that he'll be treated in ways he doesn't like. The scene in isolation is one of my favorites, but it's how the aftermath was dealt with that makes it bad.

Does CN ever actually express to LB why he is upset in Season 4? Does he ever try to reason with her or advocate for himself? I don’t remember him approaching the real issue until they were under Risk’s influence and he says “maybe that’s because you never tell me anything.” I also remember that overall fallout feeling really muddy throughout the season.

You're partially right. He doesn't really try to actually talk with her until Risk/Strikeback. And part of this is because of his own trauma. But the other part of it is also because Ladybug has also become more and more unapproachable over the course of the season. When he does try to approach her in some way, he gets shut down.

You're pretty spot on about the other reasons for why he feels the way he does.

There are also the reasons that the fandom projects onto Adrien as things he 'should' be upset about, but is never actually upset about and have never had any canon ground: She’s the leader and the only holder with a cure. They’ve never been exactly equal despite that one line and he’s never had an issue with this on the battlefield. He only wants to know what’s going on. If he does have some leftover resentment at Fu not choosing or training him, his beef is with Fu.

I agree that any resentment he feels for Fu not training him isn't Marinette's fault.

This is getting long, so I'll put the rest of it under the cut.

So, he isn't entitled to their identities. I personally think he would have been justified in wanting to know before Season 4, but it's not really that way anymore. But in any case, that isn't the issue. The issue is Ladybug playing loose and fast with the rules, allowing others to know their identities and even revealing her own identity to someone else while making sure that Chat Noir sticks to the rules. He has a right to be upset about that.

The point is that it shouldn't have become obsolete. She was going to do something awful to him. I don't think it should have been thrown aside. He should know about it. She's shown that she's willing to take advantage of his trust and she never actually learnt any lesson about not doing that or that it was wrong. He's entitled to information about her actions that could potentially have harmed him. That's something she should admit to.

I think the reason for this is clear in your own next paragraph. I will say again that him cutting ties with her in Strikeback is not something that I want.

And that's exactly it. The season spends so many episodes building up this conflict between them, building up Ladybug's secret keeping and Chat Noir's increasing resentment and insecurity over the fact, and then... reduces it to him being in love with her. There are plenty of valid reasons for him to be angry with her, but Kuro Neko, the episode where the Ladynoir conflict is supposedly at an end, tells us that the reason for all this is because "Chat Noir is in love with Ladybug." I call BS.

It's a severe flaw in the writing. They reduce the conflict down to being about Chat Noir being in love with Ladybug while brushing over everything else that was set up. Him being in love with her may have been a slight factor, but it was never the main problem. If he hadn't been in love with her, he would still have the right to be pissed. Reducing it down to him being in love with her reduces the whole conflict, and Kuro Neko actually ends with Adrien saying he was too sensitive (which is Gabe rhetoric) and him apologizing to her as though she did nothing wrong at all. Kuro Neko is just... a fucking awful episode.

And I think you've hit the nail right on the head. This is exactly the problem with Kuro Neko and Season 4 as a whole.

I do sort of disagree with Ladybug being approachable. I think Glaciator 2 did do some damage. See, it's always been their dynamic to banter and for Chat Noir to flirt. Ladybug herself has enjoyed their banter and has responded to his flirtatious comments with nothing more than a small roll of her eyes. When he does it at the wrong time, she tells him to cut it out and he does. Considering that, throwing him a trashcan is unnecessarily overblown. That's way out of line. It's clearly because she's stressed out and annoyed about the situation and because of everything else going on, but him never bringing up anything so as to not upset her is a pretty reasonable interpretation after that. And it does happen again in Kuro Neko. He offers to help, she snaps at him.

The situations with Guilttrip and others like it were when it wasn't about Ladybug. She is supportive of him and she does care for him, but it's always when it's not about her. When it is about her, she never actually puts in the effort to fix the problem and just smooths over the situation (Kuro Neko, Strikeback). Of course, a lot of his lack of communication is due to his upbringing, but Ladybug is also visibly more unapproachable now.

But mostly, he's just written to undermine himself. Ladybug isn’t the only voice box for the writers. Adrien is too. Everyone in the show works to serve a particular narrative so it’s no wonder that his most valid complaint against Ladybug in Season 4 was buried under all of the less noble ones, even from his own lips. He needed Risk just to confront her on the part she was actually responsible for. Odd choice. I guess he wouldn’t have been the perfect boyfriend if he did it without Risk? I think a decent percentage of the rage at LB in Season 4 is made more intense and inflated in combination with all those other factors. We as the viewers know Adrien's trauma, how starved for love he is, what little support system he has vs the act he puts on as both Adrien and Chat Noir. We know too the meta fact that the writers never allowed CN the dignity to be rightfully upset about it or voice his most valid displeasure at anytime except when he was under the influence of a villain.

Spot on.

Spot on again.

Maybe that’s just me being wishful about the blorbos, but my early season blorbos are better than their later season counterparts. The latter just seem like shills for a plot that doesn't match them. I really miss early Adrien anyhow. He took a lot more flack then because he messed up more because he actually had a personality that allowed him to disagree and have sassy moments. Sometimes he was right, sometimes wrong, but at least he felt more layered.

I will say that Miraculous trying to make the switch from a monster-of-the-week type of show to having an overarching plot was an ambitious choice, but it did not work out well, for reasons you've mentioned here.

I will also say, when I criticize Marinette, it isn't often Marinette herself that I criticize but the writing around her. The sort of writing that involves other characters bending over so that she doesn't look bad, or Adrien being reduced to her emotional support partner who doesn't demand a thing from her. That's ultimately what Season 4 had him learn, that he isn't and never will be her equal and that he should just be okay with whatever she does. And since Adrien character is that of the abuse victim who has never been allowed to be his own person, it just paints a very nasty picture. So, I think we do largely agree on many things, anon.

Thank you for your ask!

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cleverthylacine · 9 months ago

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Okay. Wow. (also feel free to circulate this post to people even if they don't like me)

I didn't want to make a post like this but things have gone too far. I am still not mentioning names. If you know you know, if you don't know, ignore this post and be happy that you don't know.

Yesterday I went on a blitz of blocking people I was told had been sharing my private DMs and talking shit about me behind my back with an artist who is freaked out that I told them I wouldn't take down a reblog, and then explained that they are popular with RavWave shippers, and that I didn't know who they were until other shippers sent me their stuff, because their art does look shippy to us.

It seems that a lot of the people who are really mad about this (and you're welcome to share this one post of mine with those people, though I do not appreciate that their friends have been stalking my blog in general) think that I was trying to ARGUE with that person.

Much as their motivation in drawing the art was not to depict my OTP, my motivation in telling them that they accidentally did was not to argue with them about how they should view the relationship. It was information about why people get what is apparently the wrong idea about their art.

If I were writing or drawing something that was being misinterpreted all over creation, I would want to know why.

Then I would be armed with the knowledge to decide whether or not I wanted to do things differently in the future.

"I don't care what those people think" is a valid decision. So is "hmm, maybe she has a point." Whichever decision I made, I'd want to make it as an informed decision.

I feel a little sorry about this giant misunderstanding, but I'm absolutely disinclined to apologise because:

Their first message to me was insulting. Many people believe that it was a "polite request". But polite words can be used in a thoroughly rude and nasty way. There is no nice way to tell someone that you think they're so nasty you don't want your public posts appearing on their blog.

Saying no to requests is a thing that people are allowed to do.

Their second message to me, which evaded my block because it was sent to another account, was blatantly offensive and went into the quality of my family and relationships. I didn't respond to that because I'd have gone off.

They have their friends stalking my blog and have admitted to doing so, and have responded to venting on my part by vagueblogging in my own blogs by telling everyone that they're the person I am annoyed with and here are the receipts. Seriously, wtf?

I only know this because I'm trying to block all the assholes who are reposting my personal conversations with them, a thing i only know because a friend of mine told me so after receiving a demand they unfriend me.

This person and their friends are sending anon asks to my friends, or in one case, publicly demanding in an RP community, that people who want to interact with them unfollow me, because they will not interact with anyone who interacts with me. Go the fuck back to high school, Regina.

Don't put icing and sprinkles on a pile of shit and tell yourself you gave someone a chocolate cake. This person has never been "nice" to me.

Under the cut: why IDW Ravage would never allow herself to be handled like a pet cat, and why RavWave shippers feel the same way about the Earthspark deleted scenes, even though we know that's probably not what the showrunners meant us to think.

I have come to the conclusion that's it's just another case of antis thinking that if you can see two people in a non-platonic relationship that they think of as family, you're just nasty. Especially if the feline shaped character is being handled like a pet cat.

But the person who said "I look disrespectfully on anyone who ships this, that's just a goof and his cat" has missed the entire point of these characters' relationship. Soundwave would never treat or handle Ravage like she was a pet cat.

Anyone else who says RavWave shippers are nasty because "it's NoRMaL to handle your cat that way" is fundamentally not getting who Ravage is and how she feels about being touched.

Ravage is a sapient adult mech with a full range of sapient adult feelings, and touching her like she's an animal is a microaggression or a macroaggression, depending upon where and how you touch her. The oppression of beastformers is a big fucking thing in IDW 2005. Other beastformers also complain about constantly having to deal with unwanted and disrespectful touching. (Fortress Maximus is a known offender.)

IDW Ravage is sleeping in Megatron's bed throughout MTMTE (when she's under it, she's guarding him). She only allows him to touch her neck in front of others...because behaving like a pet cat increases the chances that people will treat her like one.

(She almost cut Nautica several times. That's another character I ship her with, because what would be funnier than her realising that this actually is a whole ass person and if she can't stop touching her, she might actually be attracted to her?)

(Note: Canonically, Ravage in IDW uses he/him, and I do know that. However, about half the fandom writes Ravage as female. I'm in that half.)

BTW, I feel exactly the same way about the Earthspark deleted scenes. Every RavWave shipper on the planet does. We've talked about it. We realise that the artists and showrunners probably intended it to be innocent on the grounds that she is a cat. But we are also people who like to write her as an adult Decepticon officer with agency and self-respect who wouldn't behave like that in front of other people unless they knew he has privileges they don't.

I am aware that half the fandom draws Ravage art that's basically cat memes. (I hate that so much. But as a proshipper, I recognise people have the right to depict characters any way they want. That doesn't mean I haven't had to vent to people like @bitegore and @miner16 to keep myself from saying something.)

Also, I strongly suggest that people who get this worked up about misinterpretations of their art or writing do not become professional creators. As a member of fandom since the 1970s, I'm kind of super extremely aware that most of what fandom does is counter to what the creator intended, and frequently that's the point.

I'm also kind of super extremely aware that if you don't have loads of people reinterpreting and remixing your work and your characters, that actually means nobody cares about your work enough to have blorbo feels about your characters.

(The side poll, which came from another blog and mentioned no names, was an irritated attempt to find out whether people really do think it's normal to cuddle your mom that way, because the second message insinuated that my mother and I must have a terrible relationship because we don't touch each other like that. I kinda wanted to know what people who were not predisposed to take my side and did not know what was going on would think of that idea, because I really do not think most people touch their mothers like that; their mothers aren't nonsapient animals and would thus consider it weird and inappropriate.)

#fandom and its discontents #Ravage/Soundwave #RavWave #antis suck #go back to high school

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bsnotoneaskedfor · 2 years ago

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Tired MK

Before you judge, hear me out.

MK goes through SO much shit because of his "Monkey Kid" status. Like, a ton. As someone who is a teen and struggles with mental health it is so obvious that MK has been spiraling since day one. The poor dude is going to die of anxiety and depression before the Lady Bone Bitch tries to order a smackdown with a side of trauma. MK is also a people pleaser. He legit is always trying to live up to people's standards and be "just like Monkey King".

Here's the thing: I also suffer from trying to please everyone and let me tell you that shit is exhausting. Fuck magic, the thing that really makes this show fiction is that MK hasn't had a massive mental breakdown. He's had baby ones, that are still valid, but he's pushed them aside because "he has to be the hero". He never really shows signs of emotional distress besides the show poking fun at it or using it for plot. For those in the comments, please don't try to psychoanalyze the show to prove me wrong. This is just what I have seen. So, with this being said, there is something I really would love to see and have adopted it as my personal headcannon.

MK being done with everyone's shit.

Not, "MK's tired", or "MK's sassy ;D", or even Mk going through an emo phase.

I want absolutely 100% done MK.

I want to see him surviving on coffee or energy drinks because the weight of everyone's expectations keeps him up at night. I want him mad when people start blaming him/looking to him for answers because "he's the Monkey Kid". I want him done with Wukong's bullshit. I want my realistic representation of burnout and mental illness. I want to see him trying to get better and no longer caring about calling people out for being toxic.

I don't know if I'm 100% explaining this right because words are really hard so here are some examples of what I see my MK head cannon as.

(This one's based off that one TikTok audio where the guy yells at the cats to get off the couch)

MK: *Sitting peacefully, attempting to do homework or some other quiet activity*

Macaque and Wukong : *fighting like feral cats*

MK: (almost roars it) STOP IT!

Macaque and Wukong : *is startled and a little afraid*

MK : LEARN TO FUCKING GET ALONG OR SO HELP ME I'LL TEST THE LIMITS OF YOUR IMMORTALITY

Macaque and Wukong : *obeying, nearly about to piss themselves out of fear*

MK: *Deep Breath. Goes back to what he was doing*

Every Demon Within 50 miles : wtf was that?

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MK: *chugging a coffee or energy drink*

Some Demon: *starts destroying the city*

MK : Dammit *Chugs faster. *

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Wukong: Hey bud! When's the last time that you've slept?

MK: *completely deadpan* It is finals week.

Wukong : That doesn't answer-

MK:*getting angrier* I have to defend the city every damn day. I have to deal with your messes, including you. I train every day for at least 4 hours even when we don't meet up. I WORK FULL TIME AT THE GODDAMN NOODLE SHOP AND THEN I HAVE TO FUCKING STUDY FOR COLLEGE. WHEN IN THE NAME OF BUHDDA WOULD I BE ABLE TO SLEEP?!?!

Wukong : *sweats* So I see that you're stressed-

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Team Monkey : Why didn't you use [ insert power] to start with?!

MK: *sarcastic* I'm sorry. I thought we all deserved a nice bonding trip where we spent the entire time bickering and getting the shit beaten out of us. Was that supposed to be next week?!?

Team Monkey : . . .

MK: How about you guys make a list of everything I can do. That way, next time, we can just all look at it together and none of you blame me.

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Red Son : * trying to pick a fight and just being a dick in general*

MK: *Not having it* Do not make me duct tape you down so I can embroider your worst nightmares onto your skin, you pompous little fuck!

Red Son : . . .wtf

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Red Son : *Is pretty*

MK: *deep sigh of disappointment* I need therapy . . .

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Mei : * Gets the Samhadi Fire*

MK: *remembering all the shit and expectations he went through once he got his powers*

Mei: *About to have a breakdown*

MK: *laughs* Have fun

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Red Son: *breaks in at the middle of the night in an attempt to capture MK*

MK: *is awake because insomnia* So, do you , like, want some tea . . .?

May do a Pt 2

#lmk #lmk sun wukong #lmk macaque #lmk mei #lmk mk #lmk spicynoodles #lmk shadowpeach #lmk qi xiaotian #lego monkie kid #funnyshit #Mk is done

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stormiclown · 1 year ago

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I know I might get bashed like hell for this but I don't care: Chat Noir and Ladybug are realistically the weakest Cat and Ladybug miraculous holders of their respective legacies.

And it's not just them. Every single Parisian hero of the current generation, from Rena Rouge to Viperion, are significantly weaker in terms of skill and power than their predecessors.

This isn't their fault entirely, as Ladybug and co have more disadvantages than the heroes that have come before them and there are those who don't take the job seriously [Chat Noir and Queen Bee].

They're Very Young

The first most glaring issue is the fact that they are still minors. The most consistent rule of the show is that a miraculous being used by a child is like the free trial version of a streaming service. Five minutes after using their special power, they will de-transform and will need to feed their kwami to resume their transformation. Unlike Hawkmoth and Mayura who can keep up their transformation even after using an akuma/amok, Ladybug and Chat Noir have to proceed with caution because they aren't grownups which limits their ability to fight all out. This is especially the case with Chat Noir and Ladybug as they are the main superheroes and characters used to emphasize this rule.

If the wiki is to be believed, then previous Ladybugs like La Déesse Coccinelle, Piao Chong, Tentomushi, Jeanne d'Arc (in the mlb universe), and Mudangbeolle were all adults according to their respective time periods and didn't have the same restrictions that the current Ladybug has. The same could be said about previous foxes, bees, turtles, snakes etc.

They Lack the Necessary Training

The second drawback that Marinette and Adrien have are their backgrounds. More specifically, their comfortable lifestyles. Marinette in particular, went from a clumsy girl who lived a normal life to a beloved superheroine in just one day. Not that there's anything wrong with that on a character level, but on a logical level it makes sense for her to be ill prepared for the duties of a hero at first. She was thrusted into it suddenly with no training [something I see is regularly addressed in crossover fanfictions with Batman and the DCU] or any background in combat, the latter she had to learn on her own. Though it's hinted at that Sabine is an exceptional fighter, it's pretty clear that she taught none of it to Marinette.

Adrien at least has some combat training in the form of fencing which is evident in the way he uses his staff like a fencing saber. But as someone who has been fencing since I was seven and been up against many talented opponents, Adrien strikes me as mediocre at best. He beats Kagami in Riposte sure, but by real fencing standards Adrien would be slaughtered by someone who had been trained their entire life to be an Olympic worthy fencer [Kagami].

I'm bringing this up because literally every past Ladybug, Black, and others have experience in combat, were vigilantes in armies, were warriors before using their miraculous, or fought in actual wars therefore becoming hardened veterans. In this category Adrien [again, even though he's mediocre] and Kagami are the only heroes of the current generation who have previous training in the form of a combat-oriented sport. Though, in my opinion, Kagami as Ryuko is the only hero that can hold a candle to her predecessors.

Alya, Nino, and Chloe are also very weak in this regard due to the aforementioned reasons above. They all have comfortable lifestyles and were thrusted into the world of heroes without any training or focus. Chloe nearly ran into a wall because she wasn't paying attention and Alya needed to be guilt tripped into giving the miraculous to Ladybug by Trixx. You can make the argument that the miraculous costumes make up for their lack of actual experience, which is 100% valid, but I can also argue that having battle training or any sort of athleticism can make a hero even more effective. I don't know if this is an unpopular opinion, but Kagami will always be the most effective and skilled temporary hero as evidenced by her being able to piece together her transformation phase, her attention to detail, her impressive battle awareness and her ability to right her mistakes [jumping into the fight without listening to Ladybug's plan in Ikari Gozen] with her quick thinking. Say what you will about her, but Kagami is objectively the best candidate to be a permanent hero, especially since Chat Noir has been demoted to sidekick/temporary hero status.

[Kim is also an athletic person, but his skill is in swimming, which isn't helpful unless he has an aqua form, which he doesn't so ehh]

They Have Little to No Knowledge of Their Own Powers

The third thing that the heroes have going against them is their lack of knowledge about their powers. By this point in the series, the heroes are just going with the flow and figuring things out for themselves as they go along.

As we know, these are the first heroes since the Order of the Guardians was destroyed. This context is important because in Feast, we learn that countless grimoires and Miracle Boxes burned away or eaten.

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The miraculous date back to Ancient Times so there had to have been thousands of years of documented information about the miraculous of the Chinese Miracle Box. I'm not even going to say it's an assumption. It has to be a fact that there were secrets about each miraculous including how to train each Guardian that would have been extremely helpful to Ladybug and the others if they had access to it. Master Fu is responsible for tens of thousands of years' worth of knowledge being snuffed out in just one night.

This puts the heroes who wielded a miraculous after the Order was destroyed at a significant, almost sad disadvantage to those who were heroes before the Order fell. It's highly likely that after gaining their miraculous, previous heroes had access to the archive in which they could learn to utilize their powers to their absolute fullest potential. Whereas with the current heroes, it feels like they can only use a fraction of their miraculous's abilities.

Another problem with their lack of knowledge is the time separating Ladybug and Chat Noir from their predecessors. Bo Rua and an unnamed Vietnamese Black Cat were the last LadyCat duo before Feast swallowed the Order, with Adrien and Marinette being their immediate successors. However, Master Fu was confirmed to be in his 180s when he relinquished the Miracle Box to Marinette and Austruc confirmed Bo Rua and her partner to be in their early twenties, meaning that Bo Rua and LadyNoir have over 200 years separating them, confirming that their knowledge was lost over time after they died and can only be recovered by speaking to their spirits like in Reunion [which I have several complaints about]. Master Fu is obviously lacking knowledge about the miraculous to a severe degree, so it makes sense for Chat Noir and Ladybug to as well.

I'm not bashing Adrien and Marinette and co for being objectively weak because it makes so much sense. They lack proper training, they're kids with set limits on their powers, and they don't have access to crucial information that would've probably led them to defeat Hawkmoth by now. Sure, the two of them [more so Marinette] are the strongest heroes of their generation but if you put them up against their forebearers, they would be massacred with no difficulty whatsoever.

The show would be 100 times more interesting if this was acknowledged, which would lead to the introduction of the previous holders in a more natural and useful way.

[If I missed anything, any reblogs with your personal opinions on the matter will be very appreciated]

#ml salt #ml writers salt #miraculous ladybug #cat noir #adrien agreste #marinette dupain cheng #ladybug #adrien salt #it's very minor but still #Youtube

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that-one-weird-kid-from-school · 10 months ago

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This is really interesting, I have a lot of things to this.

First things first, I want to say that I have no hate towards @jesteri0tt , the things he's feeling are valid, that person is, in fact, incorrect, but it's still interesting that this can tell us a lot about fandom etiquette and culture as a whole, so I'm gonna defend that person for a bit.

First off, "argue that Seam is canonically aroace, which is straight up not true", poor wording, saying that something is "straight up not true" implies that you know by a fact that that is incorrect, which means that there is proof in Deltarune that Seam is not an aromantic asexual, which is not true, there is pretty much nothing in Deltarune about this old cat, it doesn't mean that Seam is thereby aro-ace, in the seapkeeper's words: there's nothing proving that Seam is aro-ace, but there is nothing disproving that Seam is aro-ace either.

I think that Mr Jex wanted to say that that person shouldn't say that Seam's canonically aro-ace because there is nothing in the canon saying that, saying that at the beginning of the person's theory makes it sound like that person had the grounds of their theory in false statements, I know that you were emotional, but that doesn't mean that you shouldn't think over your words and unintentionally mislead your audience.

Another thing I have to say is: is it wrong to use stereotypes?

Now, don't get me wrong, by the sounds of it, that person said that Seam is apathetic, thus making them aro-ace, we all know that that is wrong and we all know that that is hateful towards real-life aromantic and asexual people, I just want to talk about general terms while I have the chance to talk about stereotypes in fandoms.

People often use stereotypes when headcanoning characters, for example: a lot of fans think that Jevil has ADHD because the one time we saw him, he was energetic, as if only people with ADHD can be hyper and jump about.

Stereotypes aren't always bad, that is literally how our brains work, we take the knowledge we have for one thing and subconsciously apply it to a similar thing, it's just the contents inside that stereotype that can make it bad, not just the existence of a stereotype.

The problem is that stereotypes can sometimes be true ones even if they might be seen as bad to others.

Sometimes people in certain minorities can relate to stereotypes and they put them in characters that they like, but if they were there originally, people would get really mad.

For example: some people headcanon Pinkie Pie from My Little Pony to be black, with the only proof being that she has curly hair, if the creators said that they intentionally made Pinkie Pie black and that's why they made her hair curly, people would get ready mad because being black does not just mean having curly hair, or that other races also can have curly hair.

Seems like it's okay to use a stereotype that might be seen as offensive to some people if you're in the group of people that the stereotype is about, it's more culturally correct to say potentially offensive stuff about a certain group if you're inside that said group.

A good example for me to use is this image right here:

If a TV show depicts something like this, everyone would be offended, but because it's a post that sounds like it's being spoken by the gays, it's just harmless fun.

What if the person who wrote that Seam headcanon was aro-ace?

What if they're projecting from their own experience?

Would that make it okay?

What if they're like me? I have grown up as a social outcast, and so I've developed this "me vs the world" mentality, so I feel very little sympathy towards others, and I don't expect others to have sympathy for me.

What if they're just like that, but they don't know where that feeling of alienation comes from, but they see the unfeeling aro-ace archetype and they relate to the character, and with their only source of reference of what aro-ace looks like is a harmful stereotype, so they connect the smudges that kinda look like dots, and take away with Seam being aromantic asexual.

I know that all that was a reach, it's probably not that specific scenario, but I still think that there is some sort of misunderstanding going on, but it seems that that isn't the real problem...

In the Instagram story that I showed in the beginning, Jex has another point that disproves that person's theory, and he seemed very angry about that, he even put it in all caps; the person misgendered Seam.

Edit: okay, so, after I had posted this, a helpful person left a comment saying that they read the original post that this is talking about, and the person has said in their post that they know that they're misgendering Seam, and yet they still kept going.

If that's true, then that person is very disrespectful and rude, I regret giving them the amount of respect that I did, they don't deserve it.

I will remove the part about the pronouns because there, I tried to argue that they're unaware of what Seam's pronouns are, but now I have the knowledge that that is not true, so there's no point in keeping the argument.

I'm not gonna change any of my other points, so I want you to know that they were written before I knew that the person is a dick, on the rest of my points, I was working with that screenshot being my only source of reference, that evidence would change pretty much all my arguments, and I don't want to rewrite this whole post, I hope that you can understand me on this.

The shortened version of the argument that I removed is that Seam was never referred to by any pronouns in the game Deltarune, so if a person just played the game and has not read any posts from the fandom, they wouldn't know that Seam is nonbinary, and even if they did read some posts, they might not see many posts about Seam because Seam is not a very talked-about character, so someone could be a Deltarune fan for a long time and still not know that Seam goes by they/them.

Okay, back to the stuff that I wrote earlier.

In the Instagram story, Jex mentioned a lot that the person said that Seam is "canonically aro-ace", so I can only assume that that person used those exact words.

If that's true, then either that person is really self-righteous and thinks that their word is the law and every theory that they make is definitely canon (edit: lol), or they might be confused and not know the difference between a headcanon, a theory and an analysis, and saw people using those terms without knowing what they actually mean.

I'm going with the latter, not just because I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt, but also because it fits really well with the other analyst I made that they don't know much about the fandom, they might not be very familiar with fandoms as a whole, either because they have not been interested in fandoms until now or they're on the younger side, I don't know.

I know that that was a lot of things to say about second-hand knowledge in a single screenshot, but I really found this interesting and I wanted to share my opinion on this.

Before I go, I just want to apologize if my writing was hard to understand at some points, it's hard for me to string my thoughts together logically sometimes, also, if some of the things that I have said are incorrect, please correct me, I'm not infallible, I will admit when I'm wrong.

Oh, and Jex, that person did in fact make an awful post but don't think hateful thoughts about them, all the negative thoughts inside you can grow, making it easier for you to attract more negative emotions, and if that keeps building up inside you, you can fave a long and subtle spiral into misery.

If you see something that you don't like, just ignore it, don't let the negativity stay, don't let it build a home inside your head.

Anyway, that's all.

G'bye.

#deltarune #seam #seam deltarune #fandoms #analysis #deltarune theory #pronouns #discussion #special long posts #This is so long #Was it worth it?#Yeah I think it was

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lumine-no-hikari · 20 days ago

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Dear Sephiroth: (a letter to a fictional character, because why not) #394

I'm not sure what's wrong with me today.

Well. I didn't spend the whole day with something wrong with me. Actually, this morning, I was in pretty good spirits. Made myself a tea, even:

Even peeled like 6 heads of garlic to test out my shiny new garlic basket that I made out of whisk wire yesterday.

I peeled it to this playlist:

It's still in the oven. I'm waiting for it to get nice and dark. I wonder how dark it can get and still taste good. We're gonna find out.

Still in good spirits, I began playing Hades. Got all the way up to the final boss like twice; it was pretty rad.

But then... I'm not really sure what happened. All of a sudden, I found myself feeling hopeless and cynical. As far as I know, there wasn't any triggering event. It persists even in this immediate moment.

The feeling itself is... there's the crushing weight of my own perceived inadequacy; it's the usual suspects – bad cat mom, bad wife, bad friend, fat, ugly, useless, zit-covered (seriously??? this one???? what???? why????), flat-chested (this one is also just so fucking old...), loser – none of this is new. The notion that I don't do enough, that I'm not kind enough, "attractive" enough (🙄), that I'm not considerate enough, that I'm not attentive enough to the people around me... it's all blatantly false.

It's all blatantly false, and I'm fully aware that levels of adipose tissue a person has and how well one's physical appearance conforms to “conventional attractiveness” literally does not matter and its not indicative of a person's morals and goodness; it's just that my brain is parroting conditioning I got from my mother, my stepmother, some of my more abusive past romantic partners, and society at a whole. It's just noise that imitates things that were said to me in the past to make me feel small and bad about myself as a person; it's not reflective of how I actually think or feel about myself or anyone else.

I no longer have acne, but acne is not bad; people will just make fun of you for having it if they don't like you. I am no longer flat-chested, but being flat-chested isn't bad; it's just what the bullies at school used to say to me to make me feel worthless. I am chubby now, but... literally, so what??? It's an equally valid body type, and even then, back when I was skinny, I was made fun of for that, too.

Like. It's a bizarre thing in my world. People will make fun of you for being fat, being skinny, being too average, being unattractive, being too attractive, being average, being muscular, flabby, average, tall, short, average... whatever. My world is very bizarre. Like... it literally does not matter what your body configuration is; some insecure person somewhere will try to make fun of you for it, even though a person's body configuration has literally no bearing on their morals or goodness or worth or anything else. It's cuckoo-bananapants, is what it is.

...The internal berating myself for my “inadequacies” is, again, not reflective of how I personally think about myself or about anyone else. So what this tells me is that something internal is bringing up memories of past abusers, and the imprints left behind by their words are running through my head like a broken record that keeps skipping back and repeating a part. And it's annoying.

Oddly, too, the sense of self-perceived inadequacy is combined with the feeling that all other people are mean, insincere, untrustworthy, and inclined to view me similarly. I feel very alone and poorly understood by everyone and everything today. When this started, I felt on edge, as though I am perpetually 5 seconds away from being slammed into a wall and smacked around or screamed at by M or J. Which is absolutely ludicrous. That will literally never happen. I don't live with those kinds of people anymore.

And... I know that objectively, the way my brain is perceiving myself and the world around me (as though it is all wholly and invariably made of threats) is false. It is absolutely false. M and J love me very much. I have friends who love me very much. Even if not everyone is as straightforward or sincere with me as I'd like, most everyone in my circle is intentional about practicing integrity of word and deed.

...So where is this sensation coming from...?

My first thought goes to the fact that I went to bed pretty late last night. My second thought is that I've not kept up with my hydration for the last few days (my bad...). I've also not been eating in the most balanced fashion. Perhaps it's nothing more than a combination of these factors. It's cold outside, and there's not a whole lot of sunlight. Perhaps I did a bit too much yesterday. I really don't know.

Like... nothing happened. A handful of people talked to me, but there wasn't anything out of the ordinary. M and J were around and doing their usual thing. We even got pizza today (poorly made because the place we got it from is consistently short-staffed, the poor folks, but... it's still pizza, and pizza is good). I took my vitamins, did my exercises, rested most of today... and my kitchen smells like awesome garlic. M and J are happily watching Stargate SG-1 together as I write this. Objectively, all is right with the world. There is literally absolutely nothing wrong at this moment.

...What happened.

Well. It doesn't fucken matter what happened. Because you know what? Brains that have been abused don't always tell the truth, because abused brains often end up internalizing all sorts of weird “justifications” for their abuse, and all of the “justifications” for abuse are inherently untruthful. The alarm bells are going off in my head for unknown reasons, which is causing my brain to instinctively parrot a bunch of really old shit that was never true to begin with. And I don't need to listen to my brain when it's parroting weird shit. It's not native to me; it's just noise. Noise that I was fed when I was young and vulnerable and forced to internalize or else face more abuse. I don't need to cuddle it close to my chest and treat it as though it's gospel. It's just shenanigans that I can guide myself through until I reach the other side and go back to normal.

...My job is to reparent my brain and treat myself with compassion while I'm going through the old shit. I don't need to fight against the noise as though I'm desperate to prove to myself and others that it's not true; it's already untrue, and it doesn't need to be proven because unloving thoughts like those are all lies automatically. I just need to be present with myself as the noise passes through. Like this:

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I can use other things to remind me of the present moment, too. Like this one:

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I can be there for myself:

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I can remind myself that I am capable of persisting:

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I can rise up from the chains that try to bind me:

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...Sephiroth... did you know that you can do all these things, too? Even when your memories are weighing you down? Give it a try; we get better and better at it, the more we practice!

I don't live in the old place with the old people. I am in the here and now. You also don't live in the old place with the old people. You're no longer a helpless little boy who is beholden to people who care nothing for you. So... what will you do with the here and now? Even when your brain is being scared and uncooperative for unknown reasons, you can weave the here and now into something bearable. You can take care of yourself kindly until it passes. You can defy the old memories and choose a more wholesome outcome.

The garlic has been in the oven all day. I will do one more run of Hades and then show you the results tomorrow. You'll find me here if you wanna hang out:

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I love you, even when my brain has not a lot of energy because it's busy being mean to me. I am thinking good things towards you, even when my anxious brain is trying to trick me into thinking that I am bad and that nothing and no one is safe. I'll be okay. I know it'll pass, and I have lots of experience with handling it until it does, so don't you worry about me, okay?

Worry about you. Stay safe out there in the world, and in your mind. Maybe your mind will play tricks on you and call you old things that you were conditioned into believing. But you don't gotta listen to your brain when it's being mean; it's just being mean because it's scared. So do what you can to help it feel a little better without believing anything it says. Be nice to it, even when it's regurgitating the vitriol you were given as a boy; it's the only way to heal.

I'll write again tomorrow.

Your friend, Lumine

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homestuck-iconz · 2 years ago

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can both mods rate a few ~ships~ i have???? smile -jadenep -arajade -arasol -jadekat -vriskan -daverezi idk theyre random ones i thought up on the spot except arasol for obvious reasons & jadenep -moon anon

Hihi!!! Mod rose starting off here.

Jadenep - 9/10, what kind of crack did hussie put in WLW ships in homestuck? Like actually I don't think I super hate most of them which is super weird????? ANYWAY JADENEP THEYRE BOTH SUPER SILLY I THINK THEYD DRAW FURSONAS TOGETHER

Arajade - 9/10, they could have a VERY funny dynamic [but when doesnt aradia have a funny dynamic w someone in a ship? Never]

Arasol - I've rated it before, heres what I said then with a few addons to be more on topic: 7/10, it cute and i can appreciate the angst, but they kinda have 'dated in middle school for awhile' vibes? and the fanbase [spesifically, fic writers] really soured it for me?? its cute though. Also I think Aradia either works better shipped with other characters or just straight up on her own.

Jadekat - 7/10, There's some cannon precident for this iirc??? It's plenty cute, but if I was going to ship them it'd be pitch. I think that could be the funnest. Nothing wrong with it, nothing to particularly write home about either.

Vriskan - 4/10, Can be cute but I feel like people ignore the fact that they broke up for SUPER valid reasons and that Kanaya doesn't have to be boiled down to Liking Vriska or Liking Rose. Pesterquest is SUPER guilty of this for example. Not the worst ship out there but It's not my favorite by a long shot either.

Daverezi - 8/10, anyone who says they never shipped them at all is a damn lier. Though I do perfer terezi in wlw ships, they have a special place in my heart as THE middle school couple who broke up but are still besties

and mod dave finishing it with my opinions

jadenep: 9/10, haven't got much to add, had the exact same 'fursona maker' thought as rose and just cat x dog is very funny to me (possibly pitch to reference the cat and dog thing... could b cool...)

arajade: 7/10, they both have that kinda whimsical vibe and i think they would enjoy hanging out together. i dont think i could see them in a relationship though because they both have abandonment issues in opposite directions

arasol: 1/10, i know i've rated this before and i might've been nicer then but i hate this, specifically pale. i don't even enjoy the angst. the one point is for the fact that the scene after aradia explodes with sollux taking his glasses off and crying is my alltime favourite homestuck panel

jadekat: 5/10, i prefer them more as friends because i can't see jade getting into a relationship with someone who she literally had to auspice with himself. i do think they're besties though, she pulls him out of his own ass when he gets in too deep.

vriskan: 2/10 yeahh like rose said, they broke up for really valid reasons and as much development vriska could go through i dont think she could reach a point where she would make a good partner to literally anyone other than egbert and terezi

daverezi: 8/10, i'm a damn liar guys. as high as i'm rating them, i don't ship them and i would never go out of my way to search for content or read fics. that being said their dynamic is fucking hilarious and i love them as best friends in fics who dated and never acknowledge it except to make fun of each other for how low their standards are.

#mod rose #mod dave #jade harley #nepeta leijon #aradia megido #sollux captor #karkat vantas #vriska serket #kanaya maryam #dave strider #terezi pyrope #jadenep #arajade #arasol #jadekat #vriskan #daverezi #rose says things #moon anon

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yuusaris · 1 year ago

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Life Update

My ~*Partial Hospitalization Program*~ is over!

TW: cat death, suicidal ideation

To the people who were able to help support me and my family financially for the bit - y'all honest to God got us to my paycheck without a single sweat. It was like breathing fresh air - disability hasn't come in yet and it was a daunting looking week. It was really, truly helpful, every dollar counted, every charge got paid without negatives.

Soooo part of the reason for my program happening - there were a lot of reasons that compounded over the year so far. Y'all might know we lost Hammond at the very beginning of the year, but what wasn't mentioned was that I have a hefty blame on myself for what happened, and I'm not going into details on it. I had a messy falling out with a very dear friend and my bankruptcy filing has not started yet because it's daunting in the face of grief. We also lost our second source of income this year (another falling out and another death), we lost another family member, my job ended up hefting more responsibilities onto me as well as the ones I had gotten away with neglecting and through all of it, I socialized with exactly zero people, zero times about it.

I don't have a family that's very... emotionally intelligent? Problems are met with solutions and pick-me-ups, not with empathy so, it wasn't like I was comfortable speaking with them - my dad distinctly said my suicidal ideations were 'selfish' and we are not on speaking terms at the moment because of it.

I vented to a friend or two, once or twice, but it always came with the idea that I was burdening someone. This perception of myself as a social parasite, draining what I want and leaving people dry, is one that kept me from talking to people I regarded as friends and also kept me from thinking well of myself in public - I realized in my PHP that I attribute my value to the interactions I have with people. Strangers, family, friends, cashiers. If it's a person, they determine my value. So I try to net a positive value as much as I can. Which means "not using people for my own comfort or assurance or entertainment" - the aware people reading this may recognize that as 'an attribute of friendship that friends are there for'. I still haven't gotten around to talking to some of my online friends yet and - I don't have many in real life. I work from home, and left my home state in 2019 to be with my husband and his family, it felt a lot like they were tolerating me because of him. Even though I knew they weren't.

I don't really have any hobbies that aren't something to show off either - I write fic for me, but I haven't posted anything all year because I've had so little investment in my productive hobbies... of which writing is the only one. And when I don't have that I have video games until my eyeballs bleed.

I'm writing this all out to both shake myself of the idea that this is me infodumping in order to "manipulate you all into giving money in the future" (I'm aware I'm not, and I am not), or "make people say nice things about me while I do nothing for them to soothe my ego" (I can want validation/nice things said that make me feel good without treatijng people badly or it being about my value) or "just wanna read my own writing voice" (There's also just - nothing wrong with that??) or any other bad things.

It's just... my blog and my journey and I wanted to level with the people who care about me here about what's been going on and where I'm at and that... I dunno. That I'm a work in progress? And everyone is? And asking for help regardless of from who or what is different from mooching off people because the intent and the care for those people is entirely different and if you're really a burden, they wouldn't help you and I need to get it in my head that I'm just - allowed to talk to people about things that are wrong or sad or just even ask if even online peeps like y'all wanna do online stuff is still - social and allowed to be asked from me and not just of me and - lots of stuff.

And I'm allowed to do things on my own and talk to new people without feeling like a weirdo and a wretch cuz I'm not a weirdo and a wretch and typing and posting that this is how I feel is not guilt-tripping nor is it infodumping because it's my blog and my negative thoughts that aren't true. And I'm allowed to say they're not.

....

I'm gunna be doing an Intensive Outpatient Program starting tomorrow - it's similar, but shorter and less days of the week. By the time I start, disability should kick in, and I might even be able to apply for disability for the work hours I miss. I'll be looking into that on Monday.

In the meantime - I'm making Magic: The Dathering decks again! I'm gunna try to start an indoor garden - I'm embracing possibly becoming a Green Witch, but it's hard to find witchcraft stuff that doesn't refer to God or Goddesses - and deity-on-a-level-above-me worship, I've learned, is... pretty triggering for me, regarding practicing faith. We also got - so, in January, we got our baby Jungle, and in April we got Sandy and Sandy's training to be our ESA, and I wanna talm to taylor about if I can post pictures but the point is, I am a cat mama again, and they make me feel worthwhile in a way that's not about my value but is about my feeling fulfilled.

So - things are looking up! I'm going to more library programs as well, visiting old haunts and getting back into socializing outside but also - maybe online spaces soon as well. Becoming a person again, y'know?

Really - thank everyone, bumpers and likers and doners, for everything. It meant a lot to be able to ask for help and get it and know that I can just... ask people for things, not even money, just.... for help.

Thanks.

#me flavored soup #tw suicide mention #tw suicide ideation #tw animal death mention #tw animal death #y'know i promised myself i wouldn't cry on my own post but then i remembered that's part of what put me in a PHP program #you'd be surprised how many jokes do not fly anymore when you're trying to be emotionally and mentally healthy

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perpetual-fool · 11 months ago

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Corrupt Logic

This again. Seems like I'm cycling through the same three or four cards. In the vein of 'virtually everything people share is corrupt', I've noticed that virtually everything people say is in universal(?) terms. People don't say "my experience with this was.." they say "when you go through this experience.." Which could be re-read in a valid way, which I'll get to. But I have had an experience: someone told me how they felt about a movie, I watched the movie, afterwards I told them I felt the same way about it. "I already told you that" they said. Meaning he perceived how he felt about the movie as an objective property of the movie.

And I think it's likely I've been incorrectly evaluating statements in a way that makes them (more) valid. The vast majority of what people say doesn't compile at all. But most of what does is 'overwriting'. This is, say I share with someone that I like a certain thing. They say "thing is awful, thing is bad!". If they wanted to convince me, then they've provided no argument whatsoever. The only valid reading of this is that they're trying to delete what I think about thing, and replace that with what they want me to think about thing. And I think there's a good chance that's still true whether people are doing it intentionally or not, but I suspect it's not supposed to be interpreted in that way. My inclination is to simply ask about this, but I know from experience that doesn't work. I also suspect others are doing something similar, 'un-valid-ifying' everything I say into something unrecognizable.

- Unrelated, I've decided there's nothing from the past I could bring up with Cat. Everything is corrupt or null, and I know from past experience she'll just change the context to suit her answer. So it's gotta be about something she's said recently, so she can actually provide a referent. Maybe she still won't, that's happened. But this is the only chance.

And what if it fails? It's easy enough to work on problems that are already 'set'. Like, here's a musical instrument, how do I play it? The faucet is broken, how do I fix it? But I don't know what it would even mean to 'fix' a broken psyche. Why shouldn't I think all my feelings are wrong? What's the point of being able to effectively communicate if there's no one to communicate with? Why shouldn't I be forbidden from understanding anything? Why shouldn't I be constantly gaslit and lied to? And not that anyone would be tempted, but saying something like "because it's wrong" is useless. "Wrong" is the thing that's broken. Well, one of the things.

..and how did it get broken to begin with? congruence. It really is just that literally everyone is gaslighting me. I got one little taste of sane conversation and it immediately convinced me that I had been right all along. (To the extent of the scope of the conversation.) So yeah, if this falls through, I dunno.

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gone-fish-mode · 1 month ago

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Howdy! I think this is going to be a long reply, so I'm adding a "read more."

Otherkin and alterhuman are roughly the same as therian, which one you use is mostly up to preference. Therian is often used by "earthy animals," but there are also "theriomythics" who have mythical creature theriotypes. "Paleotherians" are a thing, too! And they, of course, have theriotypes of extinct or prehistoric animals.

Otherkin are often more fantastical or moster-focused, such as vampires, cryptids, zombies, elves, and the like. That being said, plenty of otherkin have 'types that would be more commonly seen in therian spaces, such as dogs, cats, or horses.

Alterhuman has a few uses. The first is as an umbrella to describe therians, otherkin, and every other label that is based around not being fully human. The second is for those who feel like "otherkin" or "therian" doesn't fully describe them.

While there is nuance between all of these terms, there is great overlap and it is usually just down to preference. Most users tag their posts with multiple terms. Personally, I tag my posts as alterhuman, therian, and otherkin, because I feel that my experience applies to all three groups.

Personally, I'm otherkin. Just because I wanna be. I could call myself a therian and it'd still be accurate. I just wanted to clarify that, because of how massive the overlap between us all is. I'll be calling myself otherkin and I'll refer to you as therian, but they mean pretty much the same thing in this context.

There is no wrong or right way to be a therian. You can not "fake" being a therian. Unless you are actively trying to trick or deceive other people, then there is no such thing as a "fake therian." If you enjoy calling yourself a therian, if you feel it describes your identity and/or brings you comfort, then you're a therian. That's it.

Tiktok is not the best place to learn about what makes you a therian or how. There simply isn't enough space within the videos to really get into the nuance of it all. It's totally fine if you don't relate to them! I don't relate to them much, myself.

Therianthropy is not always spiritual. It totally can be, but it's not necessary. You don't need to discover you're type via past lives or dreams. You don't need to believe in past lives or anything like that.

I picked my 'type because I think gillmen are cool. I like them a lot and it just feels right to me. I look at one, and I feel like I'm looking at the ideal version of myself. It's almost how you described it, something just Feels Right when I say "I am a gillman." So I would say that, yeah, you can totally be a wolf just because it Feels Right.

And what's neat about it is that you can have multiple 'types. You can change 'types. If you feel like wolf doesn't fit you anymore, if you think you're more of a big cat, you can do that. Hell- if you one day wake up and decide you don't feel like a therian anymore, you can drop the label. You can explore and be wrong and change your mind with all of this. The vast majority of us in the community have been exactly where you are, we get it.

And a lot of us love being human. You don't need to hate being a human! Somedays I don't feel like my 'type at all, sometimes I'm just a human. And that's ok. Some people struggle with being human more than others, it doesn't make anyone "more" or "less" of a therian.

When it comes to phantom limbs, you don't need those either. Most of us have them, I will not lie, but again it's not necessary. My phantom limbs have a complicated and long history that I wont explain here, but I've been on every side of that phantom limb spectrum. I have some that are completely voluntary, I have others that bother me and that I can't control.

One of my kintypes is an alien. I don't have an idea of what I'd look like as an alien, I actively chose to call myself an alien, and I don't experience any phantom sensations or "shifts" as an alien. Yet it is just as real and valid as my gillman 'type, which has a lot of phantom sensations and shifts.

This is a very very very long winded way to say that Yes, you can be a therian if you want. You and your experiences are welcome here! If the therian label (or any other label, such as copinglink or otherhearted) makes you happy, then that's what you are.

Sorry this is so long, I love to yap ;] Hope this helped a bit!

Hello there. First, I would like to preface this with the fact that I, 19F, know very little about Therian's or the terminology, so do forgive me if I accidentally offend anyone.

So I first came across the term Therian roughly around late June of 2024. I will admit I was confused about it and first believed it was typical kids going through the whole pretending to be animals while playing phase. But then I started to get recommended videos of Therian TikTok compilations. I decided to watch one just out of curiosity, and I was rather taken aback with how deep it really is. I forgot about it for a while until November. Since then I have done some more research, and now comes my question as to whether I may be a Therian myself.

I saw most videos said to find what your animal is, is that the right term, before anything else, so I first focused on that. I think I may be a wolf. They have always been one of my favourite animals, and as a kid, I used to imagine a world where I was able to transform into a white wolf with a blue streak. I still do sometimes. Also, as a really young kid, like 5 to 7, I used to pretend to be a cat a lot, where I would meow and crawl on the ground. Plus, I am queer, and my gender is a demigirl, something that falls under the nonbinary umbrella, so I've always had a weird relationship with my body in a way. Plus, I am kind of chubby, and I've always been insecure about that.

Now come the reasons I am not sure if I am a Therian.

To start with, I am perfectly fine with being seen as a human, and I still feel like a human and feel fine with that.I also refer to myself as a human and sometimes forget that I think I'm a wolf. I bring this up as all the videos I have watched all mention feeling fully like their animal and hating being seen as human and not feeling human at all. The second thing is I am not sure if a wolf really is my animal. I've seen a lot of people saying they knew that they'd found what animal they were by having dreams or shifts or other things. I have none of those. I've never had memories of past lives or shifts or anything really. Another is how I chose my animal rather quickly. I was In the stockroom of the bookshop I work at, a volunteering job, I was running through different animals by mumbling to myself to see what felt right, like "I'm a cat," "I'm a possum," etc., and when I said, "I'm a wolf," it kind of felt different. But I'm not sure if that's because I am a wolf inside or because I have a lot of verbal stims, and certain words just feel nice to say.

I do, however, relate to the parts of videos that say most Therians have always felt different. I have, but that may just be due to how I'm autistic and was bullied a lot as a kid until I was like 17. And I am able to imagine myself with wolf ears and a tail, but they aren't like phantom limbs like I've seen other Therians refer to them as due to me not being able to feel any weight or feel them get in my way like, again, I have seen other Therians mention and complain about.

I have seen mentions of otherkin and alterhuman, but I must admit I find those a tad complicated and am far more unfamiliar with them than Therians.

So yeah. I really would appreciate any advice or tips or anything really to help me figure this out. Has anyone else felt this way before everything "clicked" for them? Am I a therian, or am I just weird and faking it? I'd be more than happy to mention anything else that may help or anything I've forgotten to mention at this current time.

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