#thank you for the ask ciel

[i-already-know-im-going-2-hell]

helloooooooo cass, happy wincest wednesday! supernatural canon is incredibly undecided on this matter, so i want to know YOUR headcanons for what language(s) sam and dean have studied! do you think they have overlap anywhere, or would they divide and conquer? 🤔 i think about this so often, so i want to know other people's opinions too :)

Ok so I'm gonna preface this by I actually don't know much about languages in general, so I had to do research to come to a lot of these conclusions, but I don't know much about languages so I guess take all this with a grain of salt and the knowledge that I should most definitely be asleep.

So I have a couple of conclusions (and just fun possibilities) about the languages both of them would probably have ended up knowing and continued learning.

Tldr version:

I think Sam starts out fluent in being able to read Latin, Dean starts out at a "conversational" level of speaking Latin, and over time Sam grows to be just as capable as Dean at speaking Latin out loud or better while Dean remains at the same level.

I think Sam took Hebrew in college because he had to take a language to fulfill his electives and he was interested in reading original Abrahamic religious transcripts.

I think Sam picked up being able to read some Germanic language, possibly German, but possibly an older Germanic that I cannot name (I don't know how to read the language root charts, I've been staring at multiple of them and I can't figure them out, I'm so sorry...).

Long most definitely sleep deprived thought dump below.

1)So they both know Latin, but at different mastery levels. My basic conclusion for this is that most of the incantations I remember seeing in the show was in Latin or Enochian (this wasn't one of the things I did research on so I'm basing that solely off my memory) meaning that Latin would be a basic language hunters would have in their toolkits. I think however, that Sam started out with a better mastery of reading Latin than in pronouncing it out loud or using it, and Dean started out with the opposite. My main basis for that is that growing up, Sam was delegated to research more, whereas Dean spent more time with John out hunting, and so I think Sam had more chances to use his knowledge of Latin by reading old manuscripts, whereas Dean rarely needed to read Latin the way Sam had to growing up, so I think he has a decent ability to pronounce and speak Latin out loud, but he has a difficult time reading it.

I've read a lot of fics where Dean is not able to even really speak any Latin with any sense of ease, and I will say I don't think this is fully accurate. Dean has a tendency to play up his rough, uneducated exterior but when presented with areas of interest, he seems to consume knowledge just as rapidly as Sam. (Ex. he mentions reading Vonnegut and when presented with Samuel Colt's journal he is just as excited as Sam is about being able to read it, enough so he doesn't let Sam read it and says "get your own")

So in this case, I think Dean would be decent at understanding how to at least pronounce correctly basic Latin, because it's an extension of hunting, specifically an extension of hunting that denotes action (speaking Latin out loud would only be used in incantation, not research) and I think whether he truly enjoyed the process of learning it itself, he'd be as devoted to knowing enough Latin to use reliably as he was with any other areas of hunting.

I do think however, Dean is not interested in being able to reliably read Latin, because I think he and Sam are both used to their delegated roles that they're played since childhood, Sam that of the family researcher, and Dean that of the main body/protector.

Sam on the other hand would most likely become just as proficient in speaking Latin out loud as Dean after Stanford and as he grew into his role of working side by side with Dean in the field, but he'd never lose his proficiency with reading Latin because he never left the research role.

2)I think Sam would have a pick of many languages when he went to Stanford to choose to take for electives (he did, I looked up all their language programs and it's an impressive list), and he could've taken something like Latin that he already had practice in, but I think this would not have been in character for Sam with the way he seems to enjoy but also place a sense of control and worth in his ability to learn new things. So Latin would've been thrown out as a possibility. The reason I think he would've found Hebrew interesting enough to consider is again Sam's interest in god and religion. In the show Sam was a religious man from childhood, who was nondenominational, while still clearly holding base beliefs from Abrahamic religions (Christianity, Judaism, and Islam), such as a belief in a singular god and in angels. On a meta level, I think this has to do with the fact that they tried specifically through the show to make it so that Supernatural while often centering on religious/theological subjects, was not a show making a religious message, and Sam being overly interested and practicing from one religion specifically would have swayed it towards that direction. That being said though, Sam does still show a clear interest in both religion and specifically Abrahamic religions. So, if Stanford required him to take language electives, and required him to take other electives that would include the possibility of religious classes, I think Sam would be intrigued not only in taking classes that discuss Abrahamic religions, but being the kind of person he is and already being used to researching and reading through old manuscripts, would think to pair Hebrew with said electives so he could read original documents himself.

3)Ok so this last one I did try to do research, but as stated above, I do not know how to read the language root charts. Feel free to infodump to me about those in a later date if that if something you like Ciel, because I wouldn't mind understanding better, but I couldn't make much heads or tails of them. What I could figure out though is that if Sam already knew Hebrew, and Latin, then he would know two languages that gave him some basic jumping ground to other branches. Latin for the romance languages and Hebrew for the Semitic languages. I think when Sam realized that this gave him a possible jumping ground for translating texts and manuscripts in similar languages, he would want to learn more base language roots. I looked up a chart of every monster Sam and Dean fought in the first five seasons to try to figure out what kind of theological system many of their monsters would come from, and most of them actually seem to be Abrahamic leaning, because they have ties to demons. When they are not tied to demons they seem to be.....all over the place honestly. I ended up writing a list of all the non Abrahamic monsters (not demons or angels) they fought season 1-5 and listing their theological origins and the language roots for those and.....dude they're all different and it wasn't helpful at all.

So I'm honestly just saying a germanic root because 1) Sam already knows English and 2) they fight one monster that has Norse theological roots.

Hopefully all of that made sense, I'm not convinced I am speaking English at this point and I really really need to go to bed, but I wanted to answer this and it turned into a rabbit hole lol

[tejennnn]

((Always angry boy)) Swi with Absinthe!!! 🇨🇭 Based on Kübler brand from the Neuchâtel region.

((Reference + bonus under cut))

The Kübler bottle! (Source Liquor(dot)com)

Scrapped concept because I can't do the bottles ༎ຶ‿༎ຶ

This cat has the same vibe with him somehow

Also idk maybe I should draw him with Liech as the green Absinthe fairies.. or Liech with Absinthe drinking trinkets someday

[icantdothistodaybruh]

Heyy!

I've been thinking about the 'Sebastian making hyper-realistic confectioneries' again, so I wanted to share the scenario with you that I've just been typing out:

"Well, Young Master, tell me:" Sebastian leaned in with a smug smile upon his lips "is the item upon the table real, or an edible immitation?"

Ciel's eyes narrowed in concentration, regarding the object on the platter in front of him, before widening in realisation of the devil's wording; if there was one thing he had learned over their years together, it was that one should not listen to the meaning of the words that his butler spoke, but rather of the ones he didn't.

He lifted his head to meet with the man's proud gaze. "On the table, you say? Not on the plate?"

The demon's expression changed almost interceptibly, and Ciel knew that he was on the right track.

"It's not the item on the plate that's made of sugar. It's the plate itself." The Earl announced.

Sebastian snickered and politely lowered his head, eyes closed as he replied. "Well, my lord, very perceptible of you to notice my careful phrasing."

A self-satisfied smile stretched across Ciel's face, wiped away near immediately with the look in his butler's eyes when he once again opened them to meet him.

"However, I'm afraid you have still missed your mark."

Sebastian straightened, hovering the knife not above the confectioner's cookbook, nor the platter upon which it sat, but rather his own hand rested neatly upon the edge of the table, cutting deep into the glove to reveal it as nothing more than a clever construction of sponge and icing. Ciel stared dumbly in shock as the butler licked at the rich berry jam that smeared the blade in place of blood, the demon’s eyes half-lidded, watching him back intently as he did so.

"Do try harder next time, sir."

I love it, It's canon, I was there when it happened actually

[sxtystrs]

CIEL!!!! i saw that you liked ZZZ….. can i know who your favorite character is :3 also… belle or wise ?!!!

i don’t play it personally but ive seen so much of it from fanart and friends’ posts that im familiar with it!!! my favorite characters (at least from their design) are koleda and billy kid!!! :D

I DO !!!! my favorite character... there are a lot i like. but. lycaon... is my ult ult fave... i love him so much... but in general i like all the victoria housekeeping + seth & jane + soukaku ^_^ !! i love billy too though he's been my fave ever since i first saw him... and i cannot choose between belle or wise because they're both awesome... but i like wise... he's such a cutie pie i need to bite him...

zzz is such a good game i love it so much ... i would recommend playing it (if you want. it. does. take a lot of storage though (typical hoyoverse) but ooooouuggg i love games i love silly games)

[zorlok-if]

if the zorlok cast were bg3 characters, what would they be and what kind of decisions would they make?

I'm assuming you mean who they would be in BG3 and not what kind of characters they would play. Also, hmm, don't want to give away spoilers here, so if you look below the cut you can see what I think they'd be up to (just beware of spoilers).

Tommy: Human, Level 9 Warlock (Fiend + Chain) / Level 3 Bard (Valour)

Dev: Wood Elf, Level 11 Rogue (Thief) / Level 1 Warlock (Archfey)

EJ: Human, Level 12 Sorcerer (Wild Magic)

Adam/Eve: High Elf, Level 7 Cleric (War) / Level 5 Paladin (Vengeance)

Lucía: Half-Elf (Wood), Level 7 Ranger (Gloomstalker) / Level 5 Rogue (Assassin)

Ciel: Lightfoot Halfling, Level 6 Barbarian (Wildheart) / Level 6 Druid (Moon)

Danny: Drow (Seldarine), Level 9 Paladin (Oathbreaker) / Level 3 Warlock (Fiend + Blade)

The Celestial: Aasimar Forest Gnome, Level 10 Wizard (Transmutation) / Level 2 Cleric (Knowledge)

Rose: Human, Level 12 Bard (Lore)

[Beware of Spoilers Below!]

Tommy

Not romancing anyone (obviously, he's 15)

Best friends with Wyll, Karlach, and Gale. Shadowheart is too cool for him, he's way too intimidated by her. Lets Astarion do whatever the hell he wants. Lae'zel scares the shit out of him. Adopted by Halsin the moment he meets him.

Just wants to hang out with the cool tiefling kids

Very easily persuaded by Raphael. Wyll and Karlach are constantly trying to talk some sense into him.

Aylin is the coolest person he's ever met

Sobbing his way through the horrors of Faerûn—I can see him in a little crumple at Withers feet, blowing his nose on Withers' decaying robes as bone daddy breaks the fourth wall and stares into the camera miserably

Eventually hardens into a truly terrifying force to be reckoned with (Karlach is very proud)

Tommy has two hands, one for Scratch and one for the owlbear

Dev

Romancing non-Ascended Astarion and fucking Halsin occasionally, Lae'zel and Shadowheart are xyr besties (xe forces them to get along), Gale amuses the hell out of xem, Wyll and Dev are constantly trying to one up each other's stories

It's either Ethel or Volo, whoever xe comes across first, but that eye's out of xyr head comically fast

Just wants to talk shit with Withers all day, hates that he never has much to say to xem

Wants to kick the shit out of Rolan but keeps saving his life somehow

Always covered in blood. Like it doesn't make sense half the time. How did that much blood splatter on xem? Why is it still on xem?

EJ

Absolutely head over heels in love with Gale, friends with and trying to fix everyone, Astarion terrifies them but they won't give up on him, they know there's a good person hiding beneath that veneer

Panicked and accidentally yeeted a gnome

Tried a tadpole once, wasn't for them

Holding Gale's hand and squinting through every dark space

Sleeps cuddling the owlbear and is always covered in feathers

Adam/Eve

In a relationship with Lae'zel, didn't get along at first but Laez grew to respect A/E and A/E was charmed by Lae'zel's... strengths. Shadowheart is their sister, hates it when the girls are fighting. Friends with Gale and Karlach. Doesn't trust Wyll fully. Never let Astarion join them. Immediately enamored with Halsin but Lae'zel is... stronger.

Normally out of spell slots cause they're terrified of long resting

Loves potions and alchemy, will stop every 30 meters to pick yet another sprig of balsam

Doesn't make deals with villainous beings. Doesn't trust any voices in their head. Doesn't respect any gods they come across.

Loviatar loves them

Lucía

In a relationship with Karlach, best friends with her and Wyll, had a crush on Shadowheart before meeting Karlach, never liked/trusted Astarion and staked him the minute he tried to put his fangs on her throat, Jaheira is her idol, probably left Lae'zel to die (cause she didn't want to upset Shadowheart)

Speaks to every single animal, picks every single lock, looks in every single barrel, fails almost every charisma check

Scratch is always by her side

Will go to Hell for her besties 😉🥲

Ciel

Dating Shadowheart, really close with Astarion and Minthara... But, seriously, they have a big redemption arc. They grow and change alongside Shadowheart, both goth edgelords are completely changed by the end

Starts the game eating every tadpole (like the Guardian barely has to suggest the idea, it's already in their mouth) but goes one step too far and suddenly becomes terrified of what it means to be monstrous(/illithid)

Diplomacy? Ha. Sorry, that's not for them. They only like talking to animals and corpses.

Loves permanently seeing invisibility...

A loot goblin, their high strength score is great for fighting and jumping and shit, but mostly for the increased carrying capacity

Mol is their idol

Danny

I'm honestly not sure who they'd be in a relationship with, I think they'd be close with everyone but I don't think they'd be in a headspace for anything more than friendship over the course of the game, maybe after the fact they'd grow closer with Shadowheart but that would just be my headcanon, they wouldn't romance anyone (no matter how much Withers mocks them for it)

They are doing everything they think is right in the moment, though they'd regret rash actions later

They empathize greatly with the undead and hate people like Balthazar who twist them to their will

No one threatens a child in their presence. Well, no one who's still alive.

They cannot pretend to be under the Absolute's thumb, they are going in swinging every time, no chance for diplomacy or manipulation

They pick up a teddy bear early on and it never leaves their inventory

The Celestial

In a physical relationship with Halsin, slept with Astarion but now they're just very good friends, sees Karlach, Wyll, and Shadowheart as eir children, loves and is very intrigued by Lae'zel, doesn't like Gale at all (cannot and will not trust a wizard like him)

Always has the Disguise Self spell going, and it's always a different disguise

Eir traveler's chest is filled with the weirdest collection of random shit you've ever seen: noble portraits, rotten eggs, gold chalices, a couple goblin corpses, poutine, 30 mindflayer tadpoles, etc.

Chats with every corpse, even the ones ey killed

Lorroakan can (and does) eat shit

Despises everything about Orin, zero redeemable qualities—even her shapeshifting, eugh, it's so... crude, no grace or skill

The moment the Celestial learns Otto's Irresistible Dance is the last moment Faerûn knows peace

Rose

In a passionate romance with Wyll but he's very good friends with everyone (they are all his children)

Does everything within his power to avoid violence. Will charm, sing, and sneak his way across Faerûn

Adopts every child and animal he comes across

The hardest thing he has to do is tell people to stay in camp. Why can't everyone always be in his party? They all make him feel so bad...

Always taking long rests (doesn't want people being tired or hurt) and spends an hour cooking a delightful meal with Gale every night

[readreactrant]

Hi, just want to say, thanks for your blog. Before I found your blog, I thought I was the weird one for loving "problematic ship". But now, I can be proud of myself (as shipper of Goyuu, Bakudeku, Sebaciel, Ereri, Mobrei, etc)

Can't belive some great Sebaciel blog got reported and now they're gone. Bet if either Sebastian or Ciel were female then it's 'okay' and seen as less problematic.

First things first, excellent taste keep it up dear and don't let wet napkin antis dictate what you should and shouldn't read, LIVE!!!

Seconds, omfg I didn't even hear of that since I'm not on Tumblr much, I'd love to ask for the tea but I'm trying avoid drama rrn lolol. There really should be a special place in hell for antis who take pleasure in bullying ppl just minding their business off the internet.

In regards to the gender bending thing, I'd like to agree that while yes, het relationships do get more of a pass jn regards to large age gaps situations, BUT Sebastian and Ciel's case is just one of the very extreme age gaps antis will still harp on. Ciel is 14 looking a bit younger and Sebastian is old enough to mention historical figures that are centuries dead, its pretty hard to overlook and if them together isn't your thing (which is valid, no one is forcing you just step away from the screen or swipe) it will literally be the thing glaring you in the face when you come across someone shipping them.

It's not like Goyuu which some will excuse bc "oh fem teacher Gojo is hot Yuuji's so lucky, it should have been me" or "fem Yuuji is is just a girl and it's hot to crush on her sensei."

I don't like m/f relationships of any kind so none of these will appeal to me thank fucking god but any way I look at it SebastCiel in any form will always take heat because there's no way you can play down a predatory demon exploiting an emotional child that isn't entirely vulnerable bit is to some degree.

Thing is, at the end of the day it's all fiction, antis need to live a little, touch grass and stop being unhinged freaks threatening sa and murder (Literally why do they think they're the "good guys"??? I'm weak 😭)

Parting words: Ciel is THE shota and if you debate me we will do battle!!

[dante-redgravee]

So what is Goobastian what Ciel calls sebastians cum?

*Ciel taking notes* It is now. Thank you for asking the questions that really matter.

[outlying-hyppocrate]

This is quite possibly the worst thing I've ever made. But here you go. :3

OH FUCK IT'S REAL IT'S REAL IT'S REAL

[funky-sea-cryptid]

cielartemy - 2. Who wakes up early/Who sleeps in late?14. Do they enjoy PDA, or are they more private with affection?21. Do they enjoy domestic life?33. How do they flirt? Who’s the worse flirt?

THANK YOU LUCE >:D

2. Who wakes up early/Who sleeps in late?

ciel is a CHRONIC early riser. it's something not even being put in the palace could take out of her. she's up when the sun is up. artemy thinks it's very funny until she wants him up too.

artemy is not getting up until 10 am. at the earliest. he usually ends up lovingly bullying ciel into getting back into bed so they can snuggle.

14. Do they enjoy PDA, or are they more private with affection?

a little bit of both? ciel is a little weird about public affection (she's the queen, y'all, she has to be serious) but she really does like it, and artemy is a bigg cuddlebug. he's the golden retriever to her terrified cheetah energy.

artemy likes to come up behind ciel and hug her. she enjoys this very much and he usually gets a kiss for his troubles.

21. Do they enjoy domestic life?

ciel and artemy's definition of domestic is. a little strange bc for the past 17 years theyve been dualrole running the resistance and parenting their kids. but yeah. both of them are happy they can focus more on family now that the zogratis siblings are gone :3

33. How do they flirt? Who’s the worse flirt?

artemy has very eloquent pickup lines but like homeboy was down first and ciel fell harder. artemy wiped her face when she was crying and said "you know, you have very pretty eyes." and ciel was hearing wedding bells. it was absolutely foul luce. artemy gave this woman a bit of his time and ciel went "i need him. carnally." and she's right. artemy is peak.

ciel is the worst flirt bc she TRIPS over herself. she's like "hey artemy h. have you. h. oh my god" and artemy gives her a kiss anyways so who really wins (ciel). she held hands with him for the first time after reuniting in the palace and was DIABOLICALLY down bad.

[eemoo1o-animoo]

WIP(?) TITLE: Waltz

Okay, so what if, at the end of Ciel and Sebastian’s contract, Sebastian finds himself faltering, and proposes one final dance with Ciel. It’s a waltz. Ciel obliges, awkwardly, really just wanting to get it all over and done with, but little does he know Sebastian isn’t going to let this waltz end.

Their contract has also been fulfilled so Sebastian doesn’t need to continue with the three wishes, anymore. And he doesn’t. They keep waltzing and waltzing around the manor’s ballroom, and they’re not stopping.

Ciel is starting to tire but Sebastian is still keeping the right tempo, leading the dance over and over to music that doesn’t stop, repeating each step as his dance partner grows weaker by each lap around the room.

Ciel will sometimes snap out of his haze, trying to convince Sebastian to let him die, to devour his soul, to end the waltz. Anything. Sebastian only smiles and says something like “Not long, now, my lord”, but this is a lie. Because Sebastian no longer needs to tell the truth. And if Ciel demands him to stop, he no longer needs to listen.

They’ve been dancing for so long because Sebastian doesn’t want to let go. And with the spell he’s cast over the room, keeping candles lit and unmelted, playing music with no source with instruments that don’t seem to wear, making Ciel’s mind float away until he temporarily forgets that this is wrong, forgets what he was thinking just moments prior.

Ciel’s tired, and he wants to stop. But with each plea and with each demand Sebastian grows angrier and more impatient. “Why can’t you just remember the steps? You’ve always been so left-footed. Just remember the steps! Can’t you see what I’m trying to do, you petulant little brat?!”

And then, as if by magic or by the snap of his fingers, the scene repeats itself as though the outburst has never happened, and they continue dancing. And dancing. A final waltz that will never end, because Sebastian isn’t ready to let go.

[aloisapologist]

tell me your alois head canons :)))

ohhhh you are so so so kind to me okay

gonna stick mostly w modern day headcanons bc I’ve covered a lot of my canon era headcanons in my fic so

- his music taste varies WILDLY. he listens to a lot of female rap artists but he is a doja stan till the end, hes also big on kacey musgraves, glamrock music, and for childhood sentimentality (and also Bc her music fucks) lorde. he’s not much for pop punk but likes the occasional paramore, and enjoys Sidney Gish quite a bit !

- he has no active opinion on taylor swift (except light disdain) but will clown on ciel until the day he dies for liking her music. he respects reputation era bc he thinks its camp (and he’s right) (but he does secretly really like don’t blame me)

- following up on the lorde thing, ‘the love club’ is SUCH an alois song To Me. listen to it and join me in understanding

- okay enough about music, he is very into the y2k trend. he is a menace on thrift stores for this reason. (ciel will not touch him when he’s wearing thrifted clothes until they’ve been washed at least 5 times). his other style inspo is Harley Quinn in birds of prey. you know that one outfit? w the pink top and the caution tape jacket? that’s how he dresses

- he gets a strong following on tiktok when he’s a bit too young to, and after processing a lot of the shit in his life, quits social media entirely for a year or so, and eventually returns with a well-curated instagram and an occasional youtube where he makes longer-form content (gothic novel reviews, rants about shitty YA books, hauls and try-one, videos where he drags in Lizzie — popular in her own right — and Ciel — literally no non-business online presence — to play video/card games w him). his youtube doesn’t do a tenth of the numbers his tiktoks did but he’s happy enough !

- he actually Can drive! he is not good at it by any means, and is as aggressive as any jersey driver, and has absolutely terrible road rage, but ciel refuses to get a license and lizzie is a bit inattentive, so alois is often the one driving

- Lizzie and Alois besties in every single universe. concept for a modern au where Lizzie and Ciel share an apartment in college and Lizzie brings home her new friend she met at the doja cat concert and oh fuck it’s that guy who tried to kill me when we were 13.

- alois gets a rescue pitbull as an esa and her name is peaches. he takes some warming up to the amount of clean up (and dog slobber) but eventually comes to love that dog with everything he is

- his favorite movies include: velvet goldmine, wolfwalkers, but im a cheerleader

- he has transfem swag

- once he’s processed most of his problems, he learns to vent his more sadistic tendencies by being absolutely cruel to his sims (his sim world is fascinating)

- he always orders the weirdest ice cream flavor on the menu. this was once cicada ice cream with real cicadas. he very much enjoyed it

my final and most important headcanon:

- it takes time and it takes work, and it is not always perfect, but he gets to a place where he is, overwhelmingly, happy

[floydsteeth]

(gets pet)

Anyhow. What sort of mushrooms are Ciel's favorite? What's her go-to order in restaurants? Is she a sweets person, or a savoury person? What's her favorite deep-sea creature? (🦝) (departs to the trashcan i reside in)

Hello 🦝anon!!!!:D I am happy to see you again :3

*pets you more* heheheh:3 ok! Onto answering the questions!!

favorite mushroom: aestheticaly Rhodotus :3 I dunno which would be her favorite to eat though:P

Restaurant order: probably depends heavily on the restaurant??? Uhm but I think she'd be very fond of Vietnamese food I don't think ikepri has an equivalent for that but yee :3

Sweet or savory: definitely sweet, but less sugar sweet and more fruit kinds sweet!

Favori deep sea creature: no clue, she's phobic of the ocean and probably the things inside it. They scare her and she doesn't want to think about them :3

[windupaidoneus]

the thought of lau having a soft spot for kids specifically bc of his attachment to ciel (& finnian. tbh) is going to kill me dead. can someone make me think about something else

[fcllederage-moved]

@wynterlanding said: 👗

👗 for a moodboard about my muse’s fashion style

[homoeroticvillain]

ciel?

ciel!!! my sweet sweet boy, considered marking pretty privilege but i didnt want anyone to misinterpret it

[outlying-hyppocrate]

CRISPIN NEW STOMACH BOOK ALBUM HAVE YOU SEEN.

AAAAAAAAAAAA ??