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into the unknown, feat. @lgcsoyoun
it all happened too fast, at least under hyukjae’s impression.
someone was walking down the streets, almost in front of the hotel where his father was a ceo and suddenly another person tried to grab the first one’s arm. hyuk heard the gasp first and acted reflexively, running to the small commotion.
“hey, leave her!” hyuk yelled and the man just turned around, maybe measuring the size of the trouble. when he didn’t move, hyuk just grabbed the man’s coat, shoving him away; he hardly acted like this but it had been a frustrating week, hell, week and he felt like getting in trouble for a change.
when the man finally left, he turned his attention to the female and, even if she was wearing a mask and a hoodie, it was hard not to recognize someone he always saw around legacy - in person or on the many posters on the company’s walls. he frowned, not knowing crystallis was in town.
“astrid-ssi, are you okay?” he asked in a whisper, trying to keep her presence as unknowingly as he could.
#lgcsoyoun#t: unknown#thank you for liking my plot call!#also lmk if you need anything to be changed!
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My haitani father Shio headcanon is just a bit too funny cuz of how well it works that it sounds like a waste of perfect canon idea and crossover for both of wakui's works.
Aside from the obvious physical features very very obvious, identical eyes, nose, blonde eyebrows, rindou's face form, ran's hair color palette and (arguably) bonten hair style, blah blah i mean just look a the pictures below, you can also bring up any fact from either manga and add it to the hc and it fits in just SO WELL, i'll give the first example, The Haitanis are very obviously rich spoiled kids like have you seen their apartment? They have a fucking dj set, only rich kids with neglective powerful parents will have no problem paying for that, just saying, and even though i love him let's be real Shio is the type to be that parent, i mean cmon he's rich like crazy rich (filthy yakuza money yum yum) he tots would give his children WAY more than enough allowance so they can leave him alone, also the way they act, i've always the Haitanis were the type of kids that think they own the school cuz their dad is rich .
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Nvm if this never becomes canon or both universes don't collide, it's just so entertaining to keep connecting the dots that were likely never there, like how Rindou is a heavy drinker cuz his father drank alot with the rest of the Yotsurugis and he tried to imitate him from a young age that it became an unhealthy habit or if you want to add more drama he only drinks cuz he looks up to his father but Shio favors Ran cuz he can posssibly succeed him (canon power complex) so Rindou resorted to drinking cuz it's the only thing like his dad that he can do. Heck yeah i made it angsty!!!
You can also add great context to his fear of Yakuza, picture this, when he was a kid he got up in the middle of night after hearing a loud noise to search for his parents and witnessed Shio (canon Yakuza) pew pew-ing some poeple and surrounded with scary men, that probably scarred him for life that he was so terrified when Kakucho got them interfering with some, OH OH something just came to mind, if he's the son of a yakuza yeah he didn't wanna clash with other yakuza families cuz it can end in a blood shed and risk his and his family's lives.
And i'm gonna add this one not very small detail and i swear i'll shut up (for now), i know it's just a stupid headcanon that is very far from becoming reality and i don't have to take it this deep but hear me out, why their last name is Haitani and not Yotsurugi like their dad, Shio is powerful and have many enemies right ? So he simply decided to protect his children and their identity by giving them another last name likely their mother's (yk like minato with naruto style plan ?) So Haitani is actually their mom's family name. I rest my case. Thank you for coming to my useless ted talk.
#i officially announce i have gone crazy#this is like my new hyperfixation until i find a better headcanon that is more likely to be canon#actually you should all thank me#i just made up a way for the haitanis to be useful for once in their lives#kinda#i mean we already established they bring absolutely nothing to the table#we don't have to go through that again#let's put it in a simple equation#tokrev plot - haitanis = no big difference#but Shio on the other hand is the main antagonist so far sooooo#in my logic by relation they are sort of useful in some way (through nepotism)#i saved the narrative you're welcome#also an addition no one asked for or thought about ran is their dad's favourite but loves his mom more#while Rindou is mama's boy (yk how moms prefer the youngest) but looks up to his dad#speaking of their mom i think she's like from another powerful family#and based on shio doing anything to gain more power that's probably why he married their mom in the first place#OMG ARRANGED MARRIAGE WITH SHIO IS INVADING MY HEAD AFTER I THOUGHT ABOUT IT FOR A SPLIT SECOND#WRITERS IF YOU'RE SEEING THIS PLLLLSSSSSS#oh and apparently Shio is also in Roppongi so that's that.#i really took calling him daddy shio to a whole other level lol#tokyo revengers#ran haitani#rindou haitani#negai no astro#astro royale#haitani brothers#shio yotsurugi#i'm gonna call my new masterpiece of a shitty hc#the wakui multiverse of madness
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hi
so uhhh this line in your erisol understuck post "not getting into all the ELABORATE thoughts i have on how the geno route would go"
…………can we have some of it????I'm dying of curiousity ever since I read that post lol
also just to let you know that your aus are all very fabulous and they live in my brain rent free all the time. i was wondering do you mind fanart??
aww thank you, i don't mind at all! would love to be tagged if anyone makes any <3
as for the understuck geno route; here's a loose plot path for it!
basically, the plan would be to have a split in how the route could theoretically go; a normal version of the route following close enough to undertale's canon events with the characters given, and a secret route for speedrunners because sollux deserves to have a proper battle at the chagrin of people trying to speedrun LOL
#tmos opens mail#oak-ash-thorn#eridan ampora#sollux captor#erisol#understuck#<- dont remember if i tagged the last one that tbh; not looking at the old post as i make this lmao#it is REALLY funny deciding 'yeah the actual two phase battle will be unlocked if you speedrun through the lab' lmao#probably sets a secret timer as soon as you enter to check if you've autoskipped/mashed through all text to tell. idk how coding it would g#anyways. yeah eridans the last straw for people sollux has lost in the normal route. can't stop ignoring the doom weighing him down there#but then sollux sees the speedrunning in the speedrun route and is like. wtf stop that. that's my expertise i'll get you#can't remember if i commented on his battle music in the previous post. god i would love it to be rhythm based im biased about that lol#forces you to take your turn quick before he auto proceeds with his attack to the music. literally so normal about sollux in this route#also REALLY normal about eridan's robot body immediately being devalued by MSPA's battle describing text as sollux is taking time to save--#--his parts. gently setting his halves aside while hes In The Middle of sending a barrage at you. it getting called scrap or something. OTZ#anyways WOW i have put so much tags on this LOL. thank you for the interest!!!#man i need to draw/write out the neutral/good route at some point for this the plot beats in my head are so fun
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childhood friend!sugu vs childhood friend!toru
YOU’VE COME TO THE RIGHT PLACE .
thank you for saying this anon i’ve been thinking of it a lot actually. i’m morally and legally binded to choose childhood friend!sugu no matter what because he’s literally……. my favorite Ever. and i think the inherent devotion of the childhood friend trope blends soooo well with his natural devotion. his protective urges. etcetc. i have wayyyy too many thoughts about childhood friend!sugu 😭 but it mostly boils down to him wanting to be by your side forever. he wants to make you happy and he wants to protect you and he knows you so well that he doesn’t trust anyone else to love you like he can. he’s selfish and he wants you to lean on him more than he wants anything for himself.
childhood friend!toru though….. i feel like he would be your estranged childhood friend. that makes most sense to me :3 like, you met when you were really really young, and ended up playing together in an empty park. he was a brat, kind of quiet, and you were just sweet, y’know? you were the closest thing to a friend he had as a child. then you ended up moving away, he never got to say goodbye… and you meet again as adults. you don’t remember him — it was just so, so long ago — but he remembers you. he remembers you a little too well.
so now you just kinda have to deal with this tall, handsome, cheery man who keeps talking to you like you’re best friends even though you literally don’t remember him…. he’s sweet though. a little annoying, but sweet. he has a soft spot for you. i think having anything remotely close to a childhood friend makes him feel human in a way he can’t help but crave.
sooooo. overall!!! both are good :3 i will always be a childhood friend!sugu truther before anything else but childhood friend!toru has sm potential..
#THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION MY ANGEL#the childhood friend trope is my Absolute favorite i’ll never get tired of talking abt it :3#childhood friend!sugu is the most devoted sugu btw#that’s a very tough thing to say but. it’s true#honestly it’s a toss up between a specific brand of cult leader geto and childhood friend sugu…#buuuuuut . like.#i think childhood friend sugu would do Anything to see you smile. he’s so devoted to you.#you’ve been the center of his world before he knew who he was or what he wanted#so . like. when he thinks of the future he just sees You. all he wants is to be with you#…….. when i think abt it . he’s literally just yuuta isn’t he 💀💀💀#the geto/yuuta parallels keep haunting me somebody helpppppp T_T#BUT I LOVEEE CHILDHOOD FRIEND!TORU I THINK HE . could be . so fun :333#he keeps pouting about you forgetting him and calling you his bestie so you assume you were really close#… then you eventually find out that you only played together like . four times.#but those few few hours are still precious to satoru because he was always so isolated#it’s a little heartbreaking!!!! the idea that to you he was just a quiet boy all alone in a park.#but to him you were the closest thing he had to a friend……..#i’m just imagining him waiting for you in the park all day. after you move. and he just waits and waits and then goes home.#………….#ok nevermind i’m making myself sad#.. but anyway . i think that kinda plot would be interesting because it gives reader an insight into satoru that no one else has#to you he’s still a quiet boy in a park. who looks a little lonelier than he should be#i love him T_T#ask tag ✩
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i can't stop thinking about lydia's role in the nightmare-ception nightmare stiles has at the very beginning of season 3b. it's fair to assume that the nogitsune is, on some level, pulling the strings on this matryoshka of a dreamscape, possibly because it doesn't yet have the strength to control stiles while he's awake, but even if it's not the nogitsune, lydia's presence and behavior make no sense.
she's in the part of stiles's dream where he thinks he's awake, and other than wish fulfillment, there's no real reason why she would be there. and while she seems like just another part of the dream - manifested by stiles's subconscious - the way she acts suggests more than that. her presence is the first thing to tip stiles off that something is wrong. he thinks he's awake, but if he's awake, then why is lydia in his bed? maybe lydia was not, actually, supposed to be part of this dream at all.
the moment stiles realizes this, his door creaks open, distracting him from lydia and drawing his attention to the door - specifically, the idea that someone could "get in" if the door is open. if we run with the likely theory that the nogitsune has already entered stiles's mind by this point, then this is stiles's subconscious understanding to a certain degree that he could be in danger, but not yet aware that he already is.
but lydia knows. from the second stiles moves toward the door, lydia does her best to persuade him not to. first she tries to dismiss it ("just go back to sleep", "don't worry about it") and then to challenge his reasoning ("what if someone comes in?" "like who?") but by the time he's reaching for the door, lydia is full-on begging. she's panicking. she knows that (1) stiles isn't going to close the door, but walk through it and (2) there is something through the door that is incredibly dangerous.
and i keep wondering: if the nogitsune was already there, and on some level, however small, controlling the dream, then why the hell was lydia there? her entire role was to counteract the nightmare. she did everything she could to prevent stiles from opening that door. how did the nogitsune benefit from that?
now. i know this is a far-fetched theory. but hear me out: the lydia in stiles's dream was the real lydia. stiles and lydia were in the same dream - they just didn't know it.
essentially what i'm saying is lydia "dreamwalked" into stiles's mind without meaning to. i know there is no canon basis for this being a thing that can happen, but play in the space with me for a minute:
lydia is specifically singled out for her clairvoyant ability to predict danger and death, though it is often presented to her in an abstract fashion
she has been known to sometimes have these visions while she's asleep
there is a door open in stiles's mind, meaning theoretically anything with the capacity to enter a mind could enter stiles's mind, whether intentional or not (and we know that at this point, lydia lacks the ability to control her powers)
there is a connection between stiles and lydia - a tether - that linked them in a supernatural capacity at least once before (with the ice baths)
given the other supernatural concessions of the show, it's not that much of a stretch to propose that lydia could have unwittingly entered stiles's dream, perceived it as her own, picked up on the threat to stiles, and been inclined to protect him from it, without knowing exactly what "it" was.
and before you say "banshees can only predict death, not any danger," that has generally held true for lydia...but with one notable exception, which happens later on in this season: she finds nogitsune!stiles unconscious in the parking garage, after the nogitsune slices his stomach open. he's not dead, and we know he's not dying because deaton says he seems to be healing. something about the connection that exists between lydia and stiles enables her to predict any kind of threat to him, not just the imminently fatal kind.
so: stiles has a nightmare where lydia is inexplicably there, the only part of the nightmare that isn't nightmarish. and at the same time, lydia has a dream that has all the makings of a banshee vision, and responds accordingly: by trying her best to protect her friend, pleading with him not to go near the door, because she can tell there's something bad behind the door. they had the same dream. they were both there. lydia, somehow, entered through the same open door the nogitsune used to get into stiles's mind, and, thinking the stiles in her dream was a premonition of danger coming to him, did her level best to keep him safe, unaware that this was the real stiles, and the danger was already here.
#thank you for coming to my ted talk <3#teen wolf#teen wolf meta#stiles stilinski#lydia martin#stydia#tw#this isnt a completely serious analysis#but it is a fun headcanon for me to play with#lydia accidental-dreamwalks into the opening in stiles's mind#it's also fun for me because it implies that lydia would also be just as likely to dream of herself and stiles in his bed#she can lie to herself but she can't lie to her subconscious brain#stuff#ive been picking at this post for days i think it's time to release it from my drafts#the more i consider it the more i want to call it canon. to me.#like it would be insane for tw to do a dreamwalk plot device one single time and then never even address it#but in my heart of hearts that's exactly what happened
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rewatching night at the museum for the first time in a while and wow. i missed this film.
#JEDTAVIUS#MY BELOVEDS#got into a heated argument w my brother on jedediah's name#cause no he isnt called JEREMY#thats bmc#thx robin williams for teaching me what teddy roosevelt did since my history teacher sure didnt#as much as i love this movie sadly i can ignore the plot holes#how did larry manage to learn enough things about the majority of the stuff at the museum#in a day#teach me your ways#Opinions on the animals?#the t rex is a treasure#fuck dexter tho#i dont wanna see that primate ever again in my life#btw its so funny how teddy talking to ahkmenrah is like#HA! YOU DIDNT GO OUT FOR 54 YEARS SURE AS HELL IM NOT FREEING YOU TONIGHT#meanwhile 2 nights later#idk how y'all watched the film but in the italian dub ahkmenrah has the most OUTRAGEOUS british accent#and while he probably has it even in english in italian it sounds very weird and very funny#a new thing crossed my mind this rewatch tho#wow those are civil war fighters. would have been cool to have the founding fathers too.#soooooo did anyone write a night at the museum au for hamilton#asking for a friend#and if someone is actually reading this.#Idk how much ive written but people dont you have anything better to do than to read my thoughts on this 2006 film#(thank you for reading my thoughts on this 2006 film)#lastquickthought#rebecca fangirling over sakagawea is me at convention w cosplayers#thanks for coming to the impromptu ted talk#ig???
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hello hello i just read meine perle and it is the best thing i’ve ever read on tumblr and i just want to give you my biggest thanks and appreciation for delivering such a well written fic of konig!!! i will never be able to get over octo!konig he’s going to haunt all my dreams. it was such an amazing read it felt as if i was there experiencing everything and i held my breath unknowingly when they were escaping from the lab??? can’t believe i get to enjoy that piece for free it feels like premium content. what was you thought process if you are happy to share it?? or was it like im gonna pump out a 25k words after seeing that fanart because im so so inspired and ideas are just pouring out of my brain rn??
anyways thank you thank you thank you again!!!!! hope everythings well for you!!!!
okay hi first of all ily ily ily thank YOU for taking the time to send this you got me smiling goofy fr <3 <3 💗💞🩷🩷💗
i cannot BELIEVE y’all are still snacking on Meine Perle u lil freaks 😏😏
it was absolutely 100% inspired by Numelu’s brilliant fanart and i’m sure it would not have been a fic i created otherwise. i had such a blast writing that fic and tbh i’ve always struggled with motivation when it comes to hobbies so i am forever grateful for @numelu and their undeniable talent, and for sparking in me that excitement to create.
that fic was originally supposed to be a smutty little one shot but apparently i’m a ho for the drama of it all and it absolutely ran away from me. i think i remember making a post at some point that was like “this was just supposed to be smut but it’s at like 15k words and they still haven’t even boinked yet” lmaoo
thanks for ask-in sweet anon 💗💞💕💗💞💕
#this happened to me with TGWCM too#like i was not planning on continuing after the victor chapter and yet here we are and the plot is only thickening#i have no control i swear i’m not in the drivers seat my muse takes it and runs with it i am only a vessel and thumbs on a keyboard#is that too pretentious#anyway thank you again anon ily ily ily <3#i’m glad you enjoyed my silly little story teehee#this community means the world to me fr#<3 <3 💗💕💖💗💕#konig#könig#call of duty#cod#nice words
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Do you have any favorite exploitation films? I know you like horror more but some of them can be horror/thriller adjacent You have good taste so I wanna know your opinion :D
sorry it took me so long to answer this but THANK YOUUUUUU for valuing my opinion hehehehe giggling and kicking my feet <3
i do struggle a little bit with defining what is and isn't exploitation so i'll divide my recs in categories to help you find something you like! i also put a star behind my personal favs! :)
a horror movie but they hired a freak as makeup artist (aka "normal" horror that goes extra hard on the gore) ;
battle royale (2000) ☆
becky (2020) & the wrath of becky
the collector (2009) & the collection (2012) ☆
evil dead (2013) ☆
green room (2015) ☆
hatchet franchise (2006-2017)
house of wax (2005) ☆
the loved ones (2005) ☆
sleepaway camp (1983) ☆
talk to me (2022)
the texas chainsaw massacre (1974) ☆
when evil lurks (2023)
you're next (2011) ☆
yummy (2019)
who needs a plot when there's limbs flying around (aka mostly just gore) ;
the beyond (1981) ☆
braindead (1992) ☆
demons (1985)
the machine girl (2008) ☆
maniac (1980)
tokyo gore police (2008)
who needs a plot when there's limbs flying around and not a shirt in sight (aka mostly just gore but also boobs) ;
alucarda (1977) ☆
cabin fever (2002) ☆ (i love this piece of shit....forgive me)
chopping mall (1986)
frankenhooker (1990)
pieces (1982)
the return of the living dead (1985) ☆
the slumber party massacre (1982)
species (1995)
vampyros lesbos (1971)
blood and guts but also emotional damage (aka gore but with a serious plot. some have SA so check tws!) ;
american mary (2012)
funny games (1997) ☆
inside (2007)
martyrs (2008) ☆
ms .45 (1981) ☆
revenge (2017) ☆
i hope there's some you haven't seen yet!!!! :)
#a lot of movies that i'd call exploitation i don't really like because of the way they treat women and SA so that made my selection smaller#also disclaimer i know some of the movies in the 'who needs a plot' category do still have a plot i'm not insulting them. i just personally#watch those mostly for the gore and effects and not as much for the plot! the plot can still be good for sure!#anyway again thank you sooooo much for asking me!!!!! <333#ask#recs
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Long-ass fandom rant because I need to scream into the void to find a reason to live let's gooooo
[For context I wrote most of this last friday which I thought was good to mention so the timeline makes a bit more sense. I really held off on this one XD Welp, let's start this trainwreck.]
Ok, I know I have other long posts I should be paying attention to (*cough* Keiji's shady shenanigans rant *cough*) among other probably more important things, but quickly wanna get this off my chest because it's kinda started to bug me and add even more concerns about the yttd fandom than I already have. This is specifically going to be about soushin-- yeah, yeah, I know-- but also bleed into something more... broad. Or broader. Idk, I'm a Tumblr user not a grammar teacher.
While browsing through Twitter I've been noticing a little spike in popularity for yttd with more fans and soushin shippers emerging as well. Which is cool, the game deserves all the praise and popularity it can get. And as someone whose been here for years, I'm glad that the fandom is slowly and steadily grown more accepting of soushin compared to the attitude around it way back when. There's been some genuinely really cool stuff that really does the ship justice from a lot of talented artist and writers that I absolutely love (will link some later), but something I've also been seeing a lot of from fans is what I can only describe as a "sanitisation resurgence" (but not really. kinda). A week or two ago on Twitter I stumbled across some soushin discourse where some people were sharing the sentiment that "if soushin end up being related and/or have a big age gap the ship is ruined". That they can only be two years apart max or else Nankidai has "fumbled them".
And the only response to that I had is "what". Like, how is that a deal breaker to you lot? How did you even get into the ship without accepting that those things could very likely end up being canon? How are you here and not ready to ship them no matter what's revealed about them after everything we've learned about them? Midori and Shin possibly being related was always on the table, and Midori potentially having already been an adult when Shin was in high school was always a very real possibility ever since we learned that he was never actually a student at his school. This is literally what soushin shippers got harassed by antis for years ago. Soushin is "problematic", and that's why people who shipped them where treated so badly in the fandom or just excluded all together. I can't count how many timed I've come across a "soushin shippers dni" or "soushiners are freaks and I hope you all have a bad day" or soushin fanfics/art with "I DON'T ACTUALLY SHIP IT BTW" and "not a ship" and "actual soushin shippers dni" attached to it. I can't recall how many times I had to explain myself with the "I ship but I don't condone it irl" or explain why I shipped them to not be labelled as a freak as if you need an excuse to ship anything fictional to begin with. I still remember soushin artist @uououoon and how they ended up deleting their Twitter account years ago because of the harassment and slanderous comments they were receiving for ships the fandom deemed problematic. When a person was saying their goodbyes to them on reddit and made some goodbye art (which is now deleted), some assholes in the comments were calling them weirdos and pedophiles for how they explored fiction and "glorified abuse" (which are the usual comments to uououoon's art posted on reddit unfortunately). I only caught wind of this one because back when they were still active in the fandom they were my favourite soushin artist and I went through their stuff almost every day and was tipped off when I randomly couldn't find their account anymore. They were such a nice and incredibly talented person too so the fact they essentially got bullied by a flock of stupid western fans seriously irritates me thinking about it again. This is why we cannot have nice things.
Soushin is "problematic". It's toxic and subtly abusive and important to the characters in question, but that didn't stop people from going after people who wanted to explore a dark, canon relationship (romantic, platonic or otherwise). How the actual hell did we go from "soushin has very toxic and problematic elements and you shouldn't be shipping it, you fucking freaks" to "you can ship it but don't make it actually problematic, you fucking freaks" like what is happening right now???? The worst part is that this is coming from other soushin shippers. The fact that there's actually soushiners with "proshippers dni" or "soushin is not for proship" genuinely makes me want to bite someone. Like, you horrible summer child-- not only are you demonstrating that you don't even know what "proship" actually means, but you're also spitting in the face of the people in our community that have CARRIED this ship for us for years. Why throw them under the bus to be one of the “good ones” in the eyes of antis when they hate us all anyway?
This brings us back to the sanitisation point: I feel like soushin is slowly being "sanitised" to fit the sensitive palette of antis by trying to make them as "morally acceptable" as possible. It's a worry I’ve had for a long time that once the fandom grows more accepting of the ship we'll be seeing more people basically scrubbing soushin of everything that made, well, soushin, to justify enjoying it. I've seen a bit of it already with a few people trying to say it's "not abusive" or just erase Shin's very obvious trauma by Midori all together for quite some time. Guess it's starting to happen on a bigger scale sooner rather than later. Maybe. Personally I don't think soushin having a big age gap or being related would ruin the ship. It just adds another layer of fucked up to their already fucked up relationship (I already hc Midori to be significantly older anyway so maybe I'm just biased). It doesn't really matter. I came here for toxic yaoi. I want nuclear waste level toxicity, not nuclear waste level toxicity presented in the most conventional and moral way possible. What would the point even be? It’s like packaging poison in a grape juice box. Like, it might be harmless to look at and more justifiable to think of as delicious, but it’s still poison. You making it look all cute and innocent isn’t going to change that. It's kinda funny and by that I mean not really that people will talk about wanting more "toxic yaoi" but when the yaoi is actually toxic and messy and horrific they will cry about it being "bad" or "ruined". You don't actually want dark dynamics, you want dark dynamics stripped of everything that makes them uncomfortable and dark so it's digestible to your tastes that don't even align with said dynamics in the first place. The worst part of this whole "soushin isn't proship so it's fine" bullshit is that it relies on trying to make the ship more "morally acceptable" or "legal" than other ships. Dawg, we are talking about abuse. You shouldn't be minimising that to say "well it's not [insert other terrible thing] so it's fine!!" That's not the "gotcha" you think it is. It’s one of the reasons why antis being into soushin made me feel weird cuz like you can’t ship it and then turn around to insult someone else, man (I’ve seen so many soushin defenders bash other “proships” to justify theirs like what are you doing--).
Realistically, the simplest and smartest thing to do when I see someone mischaracterise or butcher my faves is to either block or ignore and pretend to not care so I don't act on my sixth sense telling me to off them and myself. Realistically, this shouldn't be a big deal or anything that important, but this attitude is usually weaponized to harm and harass people who don't conform to their purity crisis over fiction. I'm in the unfortunate position of being not only a Your Turn to Die fandom dweller, but a Hazbin Hotel and The Coffin of Andy and Leyley one too. I'm used to being labelled a rapist and incest apologist irl who's delusional and deserves to be harassed and insulted by virtue of the media or ships I like (probably not a good thing). But people who are more active in these fandoms than me have it much worse as they get this shit directly waaaay more often while I mostly get called these things indirectly, which is what motivated me more to make this post.
So a couple days ago someone made some art of Monika from ddlc, Nikole (don't know the game sorry) and Ashley from Tcoaal. A lot of people on Twitter, unsurprisingly, bashed it for including Ashley to the point where some felt the need to clarify that they like her as a character but her actions (for some reason I do not understand like Monika has also done some seriously evil shit why are you not applying that logic to her too?). What struck me the most is that a yttd fan-- a self proclaimed "Midori enthusiast"-- ALSO quoted it to bash having Ashley in it. A freaking Midori fan. I told them to mind their business and start separating fiction and reality and to stop being a hypocrite, and thus ensued the most hilarious and stupidest convo I've had in a while:
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You can literally count the seconds it takes for these guys to start throwing predator accusations and slurs at people. So "not exploring fiction correctly" makes me weird, but harming or putting real people on blast for nothing is free game, apparently. They're not the worst, both in this instance and in general, but it just stuck with me. Which is impressive, cuz I normally don't have much emotions to spare aside from general mild irritation for things like this. Maybe it's the Sonic feet.
But it ties into my issue. Midori's an absolute piece of garbage, yet some people will convince themselves that his actions are in some way justifiable to justify their hatred of something else (that is a lot less severe in this case) rather than love and let love. Tcoaal is not an "incest game" and if you describe it like that unironically you are not ready to be on the internet. No, it doesn't condone or glorify incest-- it literally does the opposite. If you need the characters to look into the camera and say "what we're doing is wrong and immoral" before doing something bad, I think you're the problem at that point. For the same reason you liking Midori (probably) doesn't mean you support human experimentation and torture, someone liking Tcoaal doesn't mean they support incest and someone shipping soushin doesn't mean they support abuse. These things are dark and shouldn't be condoned irl, but this is fiction. We can do whatever the hell we want. Being into darker themes and media doesn't have to reflect your real world views, but the inability to grasp that sentiment leads people to make their interests as moral and sanitised as possible and, feeling morally superior, will go after people who don't do that. This person deadass said that "incest is not morally grey and absolutely unjustifiable" (didn't even say that it wasn't btw) as if their blorbo hasn't committed so many atrocities for kicks that I personally find more unjustifiable. That line implies that they think that everything else Ashley has done and everything Midori has done can be justified because it wasn't incest specifically, which I find is a WILD thing to insinuate XD But it really does encapsulate the hoops antis will jump through to defend their likes while attacking yours despite the fact that it's literally the exact same as theirs. Rule of thumb: if someone accuses you of condoning something immoral because you like it in fiction, apply that logic to them, look at what they like and if their wet little meow meow is the Joker, Eren, Killua, Makima, Midori or whatever other morally bankrupt character you can come up with, take that as a confession and run. Cuz half the time these guys are actually nuts. While quote tweeting someone to shit on their art isn't the worst thing, considering how twitter has treated tcoaal artists the fact that they'd potentially open them up to harassment pissed me off, which is probably evident from my tone.
[Hi hi, this is me from the present right now cuz a more recent development came up so I’m using it as an example here too.]
While most of the things listed here have all been happening online, this attitude can come up in the real world as well.
As OP states, a bunch of hellaverse cosplayers were targetted at a french convention by haters of the show trying to ruin their cosplay. This is already completely unacceptable but the thing I can’t for the life of me get over is torching their costume while they’re still wearing it. Literally attempting to set someone on fire. All over a fucking show. It’s baffling how people can justify actions like this because they think your taste in fiction is so disgusting it’s Ok for them to hurt you. Not just online, but outside as well. It’s not the first time a hellaverse cosplayer has been harassed (last time it was a Valentino cosplayer but then again Val fans get shit from all sides all the time), and while I’m pretty sure these will remain as isolated cases it’s still scary to think about. What’s even more scary to think about how people think that their opinion on hazbin hotel has any relevance to the situation. So many of the comments in that post are just “I hate Hazbin Hotel, but—” or “I hate the fandom, but--” or “I hate Vivzie, but—” and I’m literally here ready to start pouncing like SHUT UP. No buts. That is not in any way important here. You not liking the show or the creator should not be important to the situation of cosplayers being actively harmed. You don’t have to signal your allegiances before showing basic human empathy, goddamnit. And what’s even worse is that some people have just turned this into a “b-but the hazbin fandom!!” issue, which is insulting. For example:
The “Hazbin fans do blackface and disrespect black people daily” is a reference to ONE Alastor cosplayer that nobody had defended. Not even fans. At least no one I can find. Yet they are using this one bad apple to generalise the whole fandom as "bad" and down play the amount of bullshit the hatedom does to fans on a regular. It kinda makes me feel sick that someone would look at a situation like this and spin this into a “fandom thing” rather than focusing on the victims. That they don’t deserve to be taken as seriously just because of the fandom their in. Some lunatic in the comments was literally completely minimising this whole thing saying “some red paint (fake blood capsules) isn’t nearly as bad as lynching and what black people have gone through in America” before calling anyone who called out that that’s completely irrelevant racist for liking Hazbin Hotel like are you kidding me. My homies in Christ, someone almost got lit on fire can everyone please stay on the goddamn topic. This is one of the rare moments where I was kinda proud of twitter as the majority of the comments and quotes where calling out their bullshit, but the amount of likes and some of the comments are still disappointing.
So what points am I trying to make here? This was very spontaneous and rushed so apologies if it feels messy cuz it very much is messy. But my main points boil down to this: Purification, sanitation and the “fiction equals reality” and "your fictional tastes reflect on you morality irl" arguments need to die. They just have to. While petting Shin on a daily basis gives me enough serotonin to find the will to live, the only true solace I will find is when people start being normal. People shouldn’t be getting harassed or labelled as freaks for fiction you don’t like both online and real life. People are not less worthy of basic human decency and empathy solely based on their fictional interests. People should be able to explore fiction however the hell they want without worrying about there being made a call out post on them somewhere. I search Tcoaal on twitter and there’ll always be a bunch of posts with over 10k likes calling all fans annoying weirdos or say it’s an “incest game” even tho it literally isn’t. I will try looking for some Valangel art on tumblr and see some loser use the tag to basically shit on everyone who ships it and lying about the treatment these shippers get while defending Charlastor or just shit on the ship in general. I just exist on the twitter side of the HH fandom chilling with other Val fans and literally every single one of them has either received death/rape threats or told to kill themselves, got ratio’d by a bunch of haters, had a call out post saying not to follow dedicated to them, had their art reposted and Val scribbled out, repeatedly accused of ““romantising a rapist””, or all of the fucking above. Valentino’s VA gets asked if he’s actually like the character he plays in real life or a fan being “relieved that he didn’t abuse them like Valentino” when they met (kudos to Joel for being chill about it btw I would be fuming this fandom does not deserve this man). I type in a certain controversial yttd ship to search and most of the latest posts are just people being rude, saying that if Nankidai makes them canon they’ll drop the game, calling the man himself a freak, calling other shippers freaks, shitting on soushin as well and then having soushiners defend their ship while also shitting on said controversial ship. It genuinely feels like fanbases are circuses and we are the clowns 💀
I could list other examples people being weirdos but I can't do that without breaking the momentum of this post even more than I already have. I guess what I wanted to vent about is how these attitudes regarding fiction and the way people police how others engage with it and how people think of you based on what you like can go from just annoying to downright dangerous more often than you’d think. That belief that you are morally superior to someone else based on the fact that you ship or like things the “legal” and “pure” and “healthy” way (which is never actually the case btw) can lead to you being really disrespectful or a complete asshole and not feeling bad about it at all, which does more harm than good. Which is why I thought it was important to bring up more extreme cases to empathise how this obsessive gatekeeping of fiction can and does hurt real people, who should be more important to you than fictional characters.
All of this is very likely going to sound very aggressive in tone and I want to quickly clarify that this is not meant to be an attack towards anyone in particular. I'm just tired and recalling all this stuff is making my mood sink like a stone lmao. Who knows, maybe I'm just overexaggerating and things won't get worse when the game gets more popular. This is just what I've been witnessing both in and out of my side of the moon. The amount of yttd fans I've seen act like this are a lot tho. No fandom is perfect obviously, and this one is the farthest from it, but with new people coming in and this weird attitude and need to sanitise not only towards soushin, but other "problematic" ships and media as well growing more prominent (mostly on Twitter and Tiktok) my biggest worry is that the hostility in this fandom will just... increase? Roulettefeel made pretty good posts about it-- my favourites being this one, also this one and this one's pretty short and sweet, summarising most of my soushin points a lot better and shorter than my trainwreck of a post so I recommend checking them out. If you like soushin, go check them out. If you don't like soushin, go check them out anyway. They make stuff outside of soushin too. They're pretty cool.
[I also want to add that the whole sanitisation thing in the yttd fandom is nothing new. It’s been a thing for longer than I have been here. I’ve just been seeing it again with soushin, which is was what made me want to do this in the first place. There’s another dynamic the fandom obviously does this for, but uttering it would not only get me flamed but straight up burned at the stake of bad takes so I’m saving that for a rainy day.]
Aaaaannd, I'm done, I think. I didn't have a good conclusion for this in mind. Idk, just be nice? You don't have to like "proships" (or what the fandom has defined as proship cuz that's not the actual definition), but that's what the block buttons for. Don't like, don't read, I say. Fandoms are for everyone and as long as what the person is doing is harmless, let them feel safe being themselves without having to worry about someone coming after them. Real life cops already suck. Let's not bring them into our collective escapism. And something you personally don't like ending up canon doesn't mean the game or ship is "ruined". That doesn't just go for soushin. That goes for other things too. To tie up loose ends, soushin having an age gap or being related has always been on the table and fits with other themes in the narrative. That does not count as "bad" if it makes sense. Soushin is not "Ok to ship" because it's "not an illegal ship" (whatever tf that means) and it's not "bad to ship" because it's "romanticising abuse". It's fine to ship because it's fictional. You don't need a moral justification to ship anything. That goes for all ships. That's why NOTPs exist. And "proship" doesn't and has never meant "shipping problematic pairings". It's a stance on shipping. It means being pro people being allowed to ship whatever they want. That includes being cool with problematic pairings, but is not limited to those. It means not being a fandom cop. Please stop saying otherwise, I cannot keep living this way--
Soooouuu, to end off on a more positive note and finally put this whole thing to bed I'll link some of my fav newer soushin accounts for anyone who's interested:
Hyo (orewagahai on ao3 check that out too): They are an amazing, amazing writer. If you're into dark, abusive co-dependent, complicated soushin with beautiful characterisation I would highly recommend. They just posted another soushin drabble on twitter and it's great.
jinn: They've been putting out banger after banger ever since getting into the game. Their art is absolutely stunning and they upload frequently, so go check 'em out if you can! It's actual medicine for the soul, I promise. They also draw for dead plate, so if you're into that go ahead too.
angel: Also cool. They're soushin art is hilarious and cute. As much of a sucker as I am for toxic, abusive sludge, they give thses two idiots a silliness that I enjoy. Also if you like trans!Shin content they're pretty good.
欣武 (my dumbass forgot to add them the first time sorry): They are INCREDIBLE. Extremely incredible artist. Their art is so, so freaking good. Not checking them out is absolutely your loss, ngl.
Be nice to them. If I catch anyone attempting to annoy them I'm coming after you and your entire family. Let's be better and not chase new comers off this time :3 Thanks for listening to my incoherent venting. This is mostly for me to feel a bit better, but anyone is free to read. If anyone's got an opinion or observation, feel free to offer it. I need coffee. Coffee sounds good.
#yttd#your turn to die#hazbin hotel#the coffin of andy and leyley#soushin#fandom discussion#fandom discourse#proship discourse#should go without saying but don't harass anyone mentioned here thank you. you won't see the light of heaven if you do#take a shot every time i say “soushin” cuz you'd be on the floor afterwards probably#i feel like i repeat a lot of words here in general. jesus.#anywho i just needed to let all that out. the last few weeks have been weird#sorry if this is unreadable and roundabout i didn't know how to get my thoughts straight#this is how i sound when i'm off coffee for a whole month#i've just been seeing a spike in people acting unhinged over fiction and not in the good way and it kinda gets to me#i just hate seeing people i like having to deal with bs cuz the fandom thinks they're exploring fiction “the wrong way”#and just pointing out and exploring certain things gets deemed “too problematic” and gets attacked despite being important to the plot--#and i just want to enjoy fiction or not mind problematic themes without getting qt and called the n-word repeatedly for responding#people can like whatever they want just don't slap others who like other things over the head and label them bad people#idk maybe that's too much to ask. maybe people'll always be like this but i have my blogs so if want something done right do it yourself ig#sorry for any typos this is mostly just uncut pure madness XD#momento rambles
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The philoctetes is a comedy actually
#The philoctetes#Odysseus#Neoptolemus#philoctetes#Philoctetes weeping with joy thank the gods my son neo sweet sweet boy thank you for taking me with you#The second odysseus has his bow and revels that it was one of his plots the entire time#Philoctetes spending the next 20 minutes of the audio book cursing odysseus out#Odysseus sticking out his tongue and waving the bow above his head going nah nah nah we don't actually need you now that I have your bow#Like I do feel bad for philoctetes#The abandonment the isolation the chronic pain the fact that same guy who caused all of that then stole your price possession#But also#This is hilarious#Neo caught in the middle like uhhh I liked talking to the old man and I feel bad about how we handled this#And odysseus being like yah that's called a conscious and you need to set it on fire the only thing that matters is results#Headcanon that odysseus just collects bows from every famous figure. Yes he does steal most of them#Odysseus being a rat bastard my beloved
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@lionheartedscout / starter call.
HIS SWORD LOWERS FROM THE OTHER'S NECK where it trembles as it falls, slowly but surely meeting the dusted ground with a soft clink. wide, wet eyes land onto blonde hair and light hues ( foreign, unfamiliar ). the pant on his lips becomes a soft huff in the silence between them.
there was nothing left. his whole life was set aflame off in the distance, with war raging between a heated battle of violence and blood. the iron kingdom's twin axes burned under dhalmekian advance, the men of the fist shoving sand down barbarian throats. the dominant was lost, the battle was waning. though blood was already spilt upon sand, staining beige in red the same way his tunic soaked in ichor from injury and anger. as the fighting began to die down, only panting and screaming remained.
arthur shifts to grab at an open wound, hoping the pressure would stave the bleeding of his side. his armor clamors and slides where it falls from him, torn apart like he had been attacked by wolves. the blasted crest of axe and anchor reveals itself from the forgotten steel ; he was ironblooded, and yet, those same men were now dead beside the pair, having been disposed through combined effort. if the stranger before him hadn't intervened, he would have surely died. and yet, would it have not been easier that way ??
his eyes flicker, the deep browns molding and moving, aether flowing under them in threat, but not in action. he is hurt, confused, abandoned, and though he is sure he looks like a cornered animal crawling on the ground as he had been, he had no other choice but to accept what fate was before him. blasted ; curse his kind heart and unwilling hands. feeble — no bloodlust reigned within him, only tired glances and gritted teeth. his voice rumbles as his lips part to speak, a deep tone hoarse in the dry air around them. then, finally: “ you're not dhalmekian. what — what are you doing here ?? ”
#( ff16 / v. on our own terms )#lionheartedscout#( hello!!! thanks so much for liking the starter call !!)#( excited to get to writing with you! my verse does mention gav vaguely but i thought it would be )#( better if i just start from the beginning ?? maybe this is during/right after nysa when gav finds him )#( and he is /distressed/ lmao )#( but !! hoping they can strike up a great friendship tbh. im always down for plotting and talking more on that !! )#( hope this is okay!! )
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wicked, with @yoonalgc timeline: prom night
Hyuk entered the venue prom was being held and looked around, already regretting making that choice in the first place. It's not that he didn't want to be there or that he was against festivities, on the contrary, hyuk used to enjoy those more than he should, but there was something about that one in particular that was getting on his nerves.
The reason why he was so grumpy seemed fairly happy dancing with their date and hyuk already felt the disgusting need to drink something alcoholic. Instead, he just turned his head to the other side, his vision momentarily blocked by a familiar face.
He couldn't help but smile at the girl, his classmate, Yoona. “Of all the people I thought I wouldn't see here tonight, you’re probably on top of my list.” He looked her up and down and nodded. “You look pretty."
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something i wanna bring back for 2025 is writing longer threads on this blog. my other blog has a few and while they may take time, i always find pleasure in replying to them. in going deep into a plot while laying my muses thoughts / emotions / feelings even if you cant see it on their faces just yet.
i miss them tbh and just want more for my muses on here as well.
#❛ ♡ › jupiter : 𝐨𝐨𝐜.#off topic before i explain myself my new icon makes this so. unseriou.s thanks luo.cha ily#i have that plotting call and am planning to get back to dms this week in which i hope to press on for more threads like this but i also#wanted to express the love i have for these kinds of threads. the ones i have and the ones yet to come#im going through my drafts rn and am hoping to have a load done by end of day tomoz so ill get back to some on the other blog but...#he he.#late night thoughts you know how it is
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where is berry
cherry was very excited to get her own apartment once again. she’d loved living in the legacy dorms and having roommates, but she’d missed having her own place (though she wishes she didn’t live alone but with her girlfriend). she’d lived alone for half a year though, and her apartment still lacked… everything? her couch was still just a mattress on the floor, and her closet was just the boxes she used to move her clothes with, her decorations were a sad plant and a single poster of crystallis. and what did she do instead of buying the furniture she needed? she bought a hamster of course.
happiness wise, the hamster probably won over having furniture, but cherry couldn’t quite control herself, buying the hamster new things constantly, she loved that little thing, which is why she feels so terrible now. her hamster has a hamster ball it usually runs around in, but cherry hasn’t seen her hamster in quite a bit of time, she’s looked for it, but with no luck, so she’s called a friend to help.
“thank you so much for coming” she says as she opens the door “i’m panicking, i can’t find berry anywhere, please help me look”.
written for... @lgcxjasper
#it's been put in...➔ queue#shine bright on ! thread#cherrylgc#lgcxjasper#other side - jasper#this side - where is berry#( thank you lots for liking my plot call ! just tell if i shld change anything ! )
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how to warm up
welp, she’s made it, she’s a trainee again. last year her group disbanded and seira was left with not at all knowing what she wanted to do with her life. she had to figure if she wanted to stay in korea or move back to japan, if she should start studying again. she’d become a barista, not exactly a job she was too fond of, but she had to do something to keep a roof over her head and keep food on her plate. she wasn’t actually sure if she should try becoming an idol again or not, becoming an idol once was already unlikely, could she manage to do it twice? and as much as she hated next gen, it was what made her realize she wanted to become an idol again.
and next gen might not have given her a contract, but a few months passed and here she was, a trainee again, she sits in a practice room with jaeyoung, dragged him along because she has an idea. “i know i’ve been an idol before, but i still lack a bit in dance skills…. which is why i’ve dragged you along today” she smiles at the other. “i’ve talked with one of my past members, who also has managed to become a trainee again, she was our main dancer so i asked her for advice and” she claps her hands “she said yoga is the best way to warm up! she said she dances better after she’s done yoga so we’re going to attempt that… please attempt it with me! i don’t wanna do it alone” she shows her puppy eyes to the other.
sending it to... @bejaeyoung
#add it to > queue#on camera * thread#beseira#bejaeyoung#the light hits * jaeyoung#on the runway * how to warm up#( thank you for liking my plot call )#( just let me know if you want anything changed !!! )
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no offense to mel shes great its not that i want her gone or anything, its just that her narrative role would make so much more sense for yaz to have
#it should have been yaz#14 finishes 13s story#but 13s story is wrapped up in yazs#yaz shouldve been in the specials and in this one specifically#theres mel slotted in without adding.............that much? that i can see? again no offense. i havent seen og mel#i dont know her relationship with the doctor so i cant entirely evaluate what she brings here. i enjoy her presence thats all i can say#But. yaz fits perfectly in her spot in this episode#adding a lot#like okay she doesnt work for unit so maybe not adding some. plot stuff#but emotionally yaz makes like immensely more sense to be in this spot#thanks for coming to my tedtalk#like it just.............it just makes sense?l ike when you imagine it for like 2 seconds youre like#oh all the puzzle pieces fit#i dont think thats just me having loving-yaz goggles on#i think that actually narratively it makes 100% more sense for yaz to have been here#you send her home at the end with 14 thats how you do it#15 sends them both home. 'call your mum. tell her where youve been'#14 can say all the i love yous to his old gang#yaz is too open a wound#but 15 has had time#he can tell her 'i loved you too'#like come on#she should have been there she should have been there she should have been there
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