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The sire bond drives me crazy!!!
I don't think the SB had anything to do with Delena's first time. I know Stelena fans believe that but....our girl was done waiting! Stelena was OVER and had been for a while. To my recollection, Stelena were not intimate after she turned, excluding a few make outs? Had Jeremy not been there in 3x19...who knows??
Killing Connor was in character for vampire Elena. We just hadn't seen that strong side of her yet, as she had just turned, and it was out of character for human Elena. Damon was instructing/advising her how to do what she needed to do, as he always has. He witnessed her power, skill and resolve to get Jeremy. Zero sire bond needed. The fact that she explains why she needs Jeremy safe, the "he's the only thing that is holding me together", proves that Damon didn't "tell her" to kill Connor. Connor pissed her tf off. The sire bond of Charlotte was written so differently, I have no idea why they wrote the Connor murder in the way they did. Poor writing. Weeping Elena "you told me to, so I did". Ugh, ick.
Elena never stops changing. She acts like Katherine because Damon pushes that in her. That's why I love the cemetery scene in the pilot episode. It's not just sadness, it's darkness. Elena is a dark character. Not completely dark, but dark enough that Damon has someone to play with. Every time she's with him, she is more herself. That's why Stefan doesn't recognize her in season 4. She is more herself than she's ever been. That's why Damon tells her he's never seen her more alive. She's done hiding.
I always view the sire bond as Damon's birthday present. He's not just getting his girlfriend, he's getting her to obey him. And it's only fair. Damon has done nothing but obey Elena because Stefan forced him to. This is despite Stefan knowing she's constantly making the wrong choices. The sire bond shows what a real relationship looks like between two people. It's one thing to respect a woman's choice. Quite another to be a lapdog. Damon and Elena make decisions together, which is something you don't see with Stefan and Elena. Stefan has absolutely no say. That's what Damon means when he says, "It's not my way, it's the only way." It's the sire and the sired making a choice together. If it were Damon's way, she'd be feeding on humans. If it were Elena's way, she'd be feeding on animals. In truth, relationships require compromise. Delena is what a real relationship looks like.
When Stefan tells Damon that she nearly died to make him happy, he has it backwards. Elena died and completed the transition to make Damon happy. She nearly starved to death to make Stefan happy. She's trying to please both brothers, which she's stuck doing because she lied to them. Elena had a first choice and a second choice just as Stefan did. Saving Elena was Stefan's first choice. Saving Matt was Stefan's second. Driving to Damon was Elena's first choice. Driving back to Stefan was Elena's second. The best way for Damon to get his girlfriend back in season four, is by being a good brother. By 4x6, she's done letting go of the brother she's in love with just to go back to the brother she's not.
Best if fans watch how Damon falls for Elena and unfalls for Katherine because Elena does the same falling for Damon and unfalling for Stefan.
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Barry and Iris in every episode [3x19] The Once And Future Flash
You want answers, Barry? How’s this? You will go back. You will do everything that you can think of to save her. You’re even gonna create time remnants of yourself, but he’s gonna kill them all, mostly. And then on the night of May 23rd, Iris West will die in your arms. And in that moment that she takes her last breath, it’ll feel like an eternity. And it will break you. She’s the love of your life, Barry. She was the love of my life.
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#westallen#westallenedit#the flash#theflashedit#barry allen#iris west#grant gustin#candice patton#otp: man that cannot be science#otp: home#i know the times are not exactly of the happy kind#but please let us have#some really nice wa scenes#before shit stars hitting the fan?#make those memories#tf 3x19
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Also watched Law & Murder this weekend which is an episode I definitely forgot existed, but shout out to 19 year old me who convinced her mother to buy her a red peacoat because of this:
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The Originals 3x17-3x22 Review
So I watched TVD during quarantine last year, and even though I swore to never watch another Julie Plec show again, I’m watching TO! I thought I’d share my thoughts, let people read my clueless predictions or my feelings about Klamille. You can find my reviews of S1-3 on my blog.
3x17
How did Lucien make a deal with the ancestors???
Freya’s scream was so classic horror movie
That’s smart of Vincent to record the video in a neutral area
Kol is REALLY getting mad, oh my lord
YAY KLAYLEY’S DOING THEIR OWN INVESTIGATION…they’d be great at that stuff
That weird liquid of Lucien’s looked like Kool-aid lol
God the ancestors are so fkn cruel, who likes them anyway
DAVINA, DON’T U DARE LET KOL TOUCH CAMI
I wish we could’ve gotten more foreshadowing of Lucien being the villain, bc him being evil is understandable but narratively unexpected
I like that we’re talking about Finn being daggered, it makes me empathize with him a little more
I’VE NEVER BEEN SO HAPPY, DAVINA KICKED KOL OUT OF CAMI’S APARTMENT
AWW KLAUS COMMENTING ON HAYLEY’S CARPOOL KARAOKE SKILLS
Also how tf does Matt plan to stop the Originals
I FKN LOVE THAT KLAYLEY’S FIGHTING TOGETHER, LITERALLY AMAZING
THOSE POOR WOLVES, THAT WHOLE PROCESS LOOKS SO PAINFUL
WAIT, MATT KILLED FINN?! I forgot about that…god that was horrible writing
OHHH SO THAT’S HOW LUCIEN CURED HIS BITE
OH GREAT, FINN HELPED LUCIEN BECOME AN UPGRADED ORIGINAL…OF COURSE THINGS CAN NEVER GO RIGHT
Elijah’s getting beat up…sad to see but not unexpected
KOL IS TURNING ON DAVINA…I really hate the power imbalance of this scene, Davina looks so childlike next to Kol
Oh my god, I know Klayley doesn’t happen but I want them to kiss so badly
That was a quick turnaround for Finn being a little more receptive to his siblings
RILEY’S ACTING IS FUCKING ME UP
OH FUCK I’M CRYING FINN’S DEAD
HIS WHOLE FAMILY FORGAVE HIM AND FUCKK THIS WAS SO FUCKING SAD AND THEY’RE HOLDING A RITUAL FOR FINN, BE STILL MY HEARTT
Well it’s kinda sad that Kol is being manipulated
I’m loving Vincent’s speech, LET’S GET RID OF THE DUSTY OLD ANCESTORS
OF COURSE LUCIEN HELPED AURORA ESCAPE AND PLANS TO HELP HER UPGRADE
3x18
Well…Lucien and Aurora seem to be having fun
Although it’s still pathetic that Lucien wants Aurora
LMAOO AURORA REALLY ADMITTED KLAUS WAS BETTER
AND SHE DOESN’T FULLY BELIEVE LUCIEN UPGRADED HAHAHA
OH MY GOD LUCIEN’S BASICALLY PROPOSING WOWW
Klaus, STOP BEING A MORON. U can’t possibly walk into a fight that u don’t know how to win
I’m glad the bar isn’t affecting Kol, and he looks happy too
OHHH THAT KLAMILLE SCENE JUST RIPPED MY HEART IN HALF
I love the vibe of this NOLA music festival, it looks so fun
OH SHIT THE TUNDE BLADE’S IN KLAUS NOW
Of course Lucien wants Elijah to come alone to the penthouse
Why hasn’t Aurora drank the Upgraded blood?!
Looks like Van Ngyugen is taking over as regent
OOH SO AURORA DOESN’T LOVE LUCIEN AND SHE’S PLAYING HIM…can’t say it’s surprising
Surely the Strix will come to defend Elijah?? What happened to them??
Yayyy Haymille has a scene together
AWW CAMI’S AFRAID, I CAN’T BLAME HER THO
Oh shit, Kol’s acting up again
WELL FUCK, HAYLEY’S BEEN KNOCKED OUT
Oh my god, it’s insane how good Davina looks
KOL, GET YOUR GRUBBY HANDS OFF MARCEL
“I would never hurt Davina” this isn’t going to age well
Marcel providing Kol with solid advice
Those poor Strix vampires are about to die for nothing
FUCK YEAH, HAYMILLE DEFEATED AURORA, U GO TEAM
KLAUS LOOKS SO PROUD OF CAMI AWW LITERALLY SO CUTE
OH SHIT, KOL LITERALLY CAN’T LEAVE TOWN
OH MY FUCKING GOD, LUCIEN HAD SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS ON AURORA AND SAW WHAT SHE SAID
AWW THE S1 TRIO TALKING ABOUT KLAMILLE, I LOVE THIS LITTLE TALK
GOD FUCKING DAMNIT, LUCIEN IS AT CAMI’S DOOR INSTEAD OF KLAUS
LUCIEN BIT CAMI NOOO
I’d like to personally say fuck you to all the people that hated on Leah Pipes and made her quit TO
3x19
I’m so unprepared for this episode…
OH NO KLAUS SEES THE BITE
CAMI SAID I LOVE YOU I’M GASPING, MY HEART IS RIPPING APART FUCKKK
KLAUS DON’T GO BLAMING VINCENT
I’m so happy everyone’s banding together to help Cami out
OH SO NOW MARCEL FINALLY REMEMBERED CAMI EXISTS
I can’t believe I’m not going to get another Klamille kiss…THIS IS BLASPHEMY
KOLVINA’S REALLY FIGHTING, FUCK YEA
Is it bad that I’m on Davina’s side? Kol’s just annoying me too much
KLAUS, PULL IT TOGETHER, GO BE A BOYFRIEND TO CAMI
WELL THIS IS GETTING REALLY SAD
OHHH CAMI’S GIVING ELIJAH THE GAME OF TRIVIAL PURSUIT AND NOW THAT SET ME OFF, I’M CRYING
Lucien’s a scorpio…that explains everything (jk, idk anything about Scorpios)
Now why am I more interested in the Lucien and Davina scenes…as a dark ship tho
NOOO IT’S THE FUCKING CORNER CAFE DATE BUT IT’S IN KLAMILLE’S MINDS
KLAUS WANTS TO TRAVEL WITH CAMI, TOO MANY FUCKING TEARS IN MY EYES
OHHH VINCENT DOESN’T WANNA GIVE UP, BABYY
Oh yeah, Lucien’s handling Aurora’s betrayal really well, he’s totally over it
FUCK KLAMILLE’S HOLDING HANDS AND IT’S SO CASUAL AND I’M DYINGGG
I’m crying, listening to this stupid fucking speech of Cami’s
I mean c’mon, Kol did try to warn Davina about the spell but she didn’t listen
Danielle Campbell is putting so much emotion into this Kolvina scene but Nate is just not giving anything back honestly
Cami’s starting to go…
OHHH KLAMILLE ADMITTED THEY BOTH LOVE EACH OTHER
I HOPE EVERY PERSON THAT BULLIED LEAH PIPES STEPS INTO A PUDDLE WITH SOCKS ON
I’m crying again…Cami deserved the world, I really do hope she found Peace
I like that Vincent’s pledging to continue their cause but it’s making me cry even more
Hayley’s speech to Cami was really sweet
Wait how does Freya still have Lucien’s blood??
OH SHIT, KOL’S BEEN UNDAGGERED
THIS IS SO BRUTAL WTF
I can’t believe it…Davina’s dead
“I WOULD NEVER HURT DAVINA” MY ASS, I HATE THIS FUCKING SHIP
Nate buzz, GIVE ME MORE EMOTION
3x20
AWWW POOR MARCEL, MY BABY
OHHH CAMI’S BODY IS STILL IN THE BED
I hope Cami gets that Irish wake
LOL I KINDA LOVE THAT VAN AND LUCIEN ARE CLASHING
YEAH, LET MARCEL GET THE HELP HE NEEDS
It makes my blood boil that Elijah’s gonna kill Marcel after they’ve been so close this entire season…it’s too cruel
WOW, KLAUS MOVED REBEKAH TO A SECRET LOCATION?!
I like that Klayley’s spending more time together
This is so painful, knowing what’s gonna happen to Davina
WHYYY ARE WE GETTING A STUPID KOLVINA MOMENT AFTER HE KILLED HER
Also, Danielle is putting on a great performance, I can really feel her fear and worry
This is a really tough decision about Davina but these are the Mikaelsons, they’re not supposed to be heroes
But I love that Klayley’s against it, we stan
Oh shit…Elijah and Freya are about to end Davina’s peace
Poor Davina, honestly…this is just a bad situation, and I know no one’s gonna get out of this with a smile on their face
LOL THE FACT THAT THE REGENT CAN JUST BE PUSHED AROUND
JFC WHAT A HORRIFIC CAR CRASH
CMD is giving me way more than Nate, jfc
KLAYLEY’S FIGHTING TOGETHER, WE LOVE TO SEE IT…even if Lucien’s winning
Klaus kneeled to save Hayley…I like it
Lucien was a pretty good villain, not my absolute favourite but still, I like him
That’s pretty cruel, mutilating Lucien like Tristan did all those centuries ago
Klaus looks so hurt by Marcel’s words, but solid points are being made
WHY DOES DAVINA HOLD THE BRUNT OF RESPONSIBILITY FOR KOL NOT KILLING PEOPLE
Honestly the Mikaelsons deserve the other characters’ anger but they’re not known for being good people, so this is not necessarily anything astounding or surprising
They’re already painting Marcel as a villain…it’s warranted but I hate that HE has to be the villain out of everyone
OOOHH MARCEL’S ABOUT TO UPGRADE
3x21
OHHH JOSH IS THERE, HE LOST BOTH CAMI AND DAVINA :(
AWW MY HEARTT JOSH WAS TOO CHOKED UP TO SAY ANYTHING
“The Mikaelsons will answer for this” um Davina’s murderer AKA Kol is literally right next to u
OH GOOD IT WAS CAMI’S WAKE, I’M SO GLAD
I literally forgot all about Kinney lmao, but I appreciate him coming to the wake
Klaus understands Marcel’s anger, thank god…
OH GOOD, KOL’S ABOUT TO HAVE IT OUT WITH FREYA
Kol’s being cold af, but I can’t exactly blame him
I mean…Lucien is already dead, so there’s no “justice” left for Cami’s death?
So what’s up with the Strix now
LOL JOSH’S REACTION TO MARCEL AND THE UPGRADED SERUM
The funny thing is Klaus is showing a lot of empathy and compassion towards Marcel but it’s too late for that
Looks like the consequences of the Mikaelsons’ actions are catching up to them
OOHH WHAT’S GOING ON WITH KOL AND THIS WITCHY MAGIC
I’m on board with this plan of Vincent’s, fuck the ancestors
Why is Elijah so aggressive when Klaus and Marcel are literally just talking
LMAOO THE POLICE BUSTED THE MAGIC SHOP FOR HEALTH CODE VIOLATIONS
*insert meme of Lucy Liu saying tear that bitch apart* (this is me talking to Marcel about the Mikaelsons)
LOOK WHAT YOU’VE DONE ELIJAH, THE PROPHECY IS COMING TRUE BC U SHOWED UP DUMBASS
OMGGG MARCEL IS SERVING UP SO MANY GOOD POINTS
Poor Marcel…Elijah, u little bitch
I’m just gonna shake my head in disappointment for the next minute
Elijah’s crying, it’s sad but I don’t have a whole lot of sympathy for him atm
This story of Kol seeing Davina is so boring, like flowers?? REALLY? THAT’S THE BEST THE WRITERS COULD COME UP WITH?!
GOODBYE ANCESTORS, HAVE FUN BURNING
Also, Klaus doesn’t need to forgive Elijah, LET THE DUDE WALLOW AND DON’T DEFEND HIM, HAYLEY
Oh thank god, Josh knows Marcel isn’t dead
THE MIKAELSONS PLAYED RIGHT INTO VINCENT AND MARCEL’S HANDS, FUCKKK
3x22
I love this little flashback of mini Marcel and him rising as an Upgraded Original
Klaus is giving such a sweet speech to baby Hope…also she’s adorable
SHITTT, THE MIKAELSONS ARE SURROUNDED
Well, Marcel’s right, u don’t go after one Mikaelson, you go after all of them
WHY IS KOL’S ATTITUDE SO HOSTILE WHEN HE LITERALLY HEARD MARCEL PROMISE REVENGE
Wow, the witches got won over by Vincent pretty quickly
Oh my god…the Strix are all dead…
Also, what a shitty way of wrapping up the Strix’s storyline, they’re supposed to be super powerful but got wiped out so quickly
I JUST REALIZED WHAT HAPPENED WITH KOL GETTING BITTEN, IT TOOK ME A MINUTE ANDDD ELIJAH’S BEEN BITTEN TOO
HELLO MY QUEEN REBEKAH, OFC SHE’D BE ABLE TO STOP THE FIGHT
I love that Rebekah’s basically Switzerland in this whole fight
Wow the Abattoir is seriously getting beat up
OMG REBEKAH SAYING “THEY WON’T BE KIND TO ANYONE STANDING IN THEIR WAY” AND HAYLEY + HOPE APPEARING IN FRONT OF KLAUS…I love that Klayley moment
WHAT A BITTERSWEET KLAYLEY MOMENT, I KINDA LOVED IT THO
This whole trial scene with the mob looks pretty cool
Rebekah’s mark is really coming back in…
Is it bad that I want Elijah to hallucinate Gia
I can’t tell if Rebekah’s basically under the influence of the curse or just faking…I’ve seen the end scene so I’m gonna go with faking
That was a nice Haylijah moment…but can Phoebe give me a little more
I like Klaus’s speech, he’s kinda right but he’s still wrong….it’s the perfect Mikaelson speech
It’s kinda smart tho that Klaus is framing his death as “peace”
I hate that all the people named by Marcel were mostly POC or women…DID THAT CROSS YOUR MIND, JULIE
Poor Hayley…she’s basically all alone
OOOH VINCENT IS REALLY CALLING OUT MARCEL, HELL YEAH
I like this little mental safe haven for the Mikaelsons but the colouring is so ugly lol
Klaus’s letter to Hope…too sweet
I really liked the ending scene…what a whirlwind season
4x01-4x06 review coming soon! Please, DO NOT POST SPOILERS OR HATE COMMENTS. I don’t expect people to agree with my opinions, but being rude is not going to get me to change mine. I haven’t seen the show before, my opinions are probably going to change over time as I keep watching. If you want longer notes on any of the episodes, opinions on a TO ship, my overall thoughts on S1-3; please ask or message me, I’d be happy to share them.
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What are some of the tvd to fandoms greatest hits so to speak... I was only in it for a short time and then jumped out because I couldn't stand to
Oh, well allow me to be your guide. This will be under a read more because I already know, I’m gonna write a whole essay. Shout out to my ride or die @hellsbellschime.
I don’t think any overtly crazy happened during the good!TVD years. No wait, I’m lying.
The year the spin-off got announced, I believe it was tvguide, that posted an article with like info tidbits for currently airing shows. And one of them, was that Hayley was pregnant with Klaus’ kid. I remember this shit so clearly, man. Everyone was so confused. And then they were like SURPRISE, APRIL FOOLS. Because it was in fact April 1st. So ha-ha we all had a laugh, great. Fastforward to what, late April? Episode 4x20 airs, and it’s exactly what happened???
That whole day btw, the day the backdoor pilot for TO aired was just insanity. I’ll say that about a lot of days in this answer, but that day was really just something else. Like we were delirious, that’s the only way I can explain what happened on here. It was a nightmare but also one of the funniest night’s I’ve ever spent on here. I gotta go back for old time’s sake and reblog some of the shit from that night because we all snapped. And not in the good way.
The TVD 100th. Now, we knew Joseph was coming back for that episode so they hype was real. Because up until that point, we’d gotten a huge load of nothing in regards to Klaroline. They released a trailer, a short one, that’s still in my favorites folder on youtube to this day. I rewatch it all the time because it’s iconic. And there was literally .002 seconds of Klaroline. It’s Caroline standing and then Klaus says “hello, caroline” and everyone lost their shit so much when it dropped that ‘hello caroline’ trended ww on twitter.
THE DAY THE NETWORK THAT AIRED TVD IN AUSTRALIA AIRED A PROMO WITH THE KLAROLINE KISS IN 5X11. ICONIC. I literally woke up, logged on at around 11 AM my time, and my dashboard was on fire. It was the BEST. We didn’t know wtf to do, it was amazing.
Paleyfest. Ohhhh buddy, lemme tell ya. So TVD/TO got chosen to have the CW panel’s at Paleyfest that year. Everyone was on a bit of edge because TO to that point was what, almost done with S1 and Klaroline had been given the mega cold-shoulder despite being the very thing other than the Mikaelson’s that got used to lure people in? After the pregnancy plot from hell, everyone was ready to peace tf out, but we got halted because it was a ‘ohh of course it’s gonna continue’ then they tried to nip Klaroline in the bud with 5x11 and no one was having it. So Paleyfest was where we were gonna get some ANSWERS, DAMMIT. I live on the east coast and the festival was held in the west coast so I wasn’t awake when it was happening. I remember making a post about how ‘going to sleep, and hoping when I woke up the answers were good.’. So I went to sleep, woke up a few hours later like 2-3 AM my time, and checked my blog and the first message I had was ‘don’t wake up stephanie, everything is a mess, stay asleep where everything’s fine’ I—
The gist of that was, they basically set JoMo up to be the bad-cop in shutting down Klaroline. He gave this long answer that made absolutely zero sense. The girl who asked the question about Klaroline, who was like 13 at the time, got called a bully for even asking a question at an event she paid to be at. A mess. And JP was like NO CROSSOVERS, ORGANIC, BLAH BLAH. And Paul was sitting next to her going “why can’t the show’s just intersect”, he was right and he said it.
I can’t remember if this was S1 or S2, but somebody tweeted something and Carina replied ‘when you’re found dead in your basement with klaroline written on you this is why’ or something like that, that was a ~fun~ night. And then like half an hour later she was like “I’m sorry, I’ll never tweet about Klaroline again just leave me alone” if you’ve ever seen this fandom refer to ourselves as basement dwellers, this night is why.
NARDUCCI. Can’t forget him. Talk about a man who just didn’t get it. And I don’t mean Klaroline, he just didn’t get anything, nothing in his head has ever clicked, I’m convinced. He used to pick fights on twitter repeatedly. Admitted once that he missed his flight because he was on twitter…arguing with a fan. AND ONE DAY, he decided to just—snap. Went on this hours long tirade against the Klaroline fandom, essentially calling everyone stupid because no one was appreciating the ‘art’ of the show. So when I say it lasted hours, I mean that. Now, you’d think, that he would be done, right? WELL, apparently that wasn’t enough, so the next day, he continued. I remember because I was in this gc on whatsapp, and I remember Erika sending a message to the gc going “omg, Narducci vs KCers round 2″ when I tell you I screamed. The man went on a two-day rampage against this fandom and it was insane.
S6/S2 of TVD/TO was not a fun time. I can genuinely say it was borderline a chore to come on here during that time. It wasn’t fun, every day someone was in argument with someone from production on twitter. Truly the worst year of the fandom, imo. So S7/S3 rolls around and that’s where shit went nuclear.
Hillary and I, are minding our own damn business, when someone come’s to us with information regarding the new seasons. This was post-SDCC, so it’s like the lull of September, waiting for the seasons to start in October. And we get approached with information, talkin bout how Caroline’s gonna be pregnant with Alaric’s twins in S7. When I tell you we didn’t know wtf to do. And we had to like wait on confirmation about it but then we found out it was legit and we were pissed. Literally ask us if we wanted to be in the spoiler game, the answer is no tf we did not. And she and I basically spent two days complaining. LIKE UGHHHH WE DON’T WANNA DO THIS, BUT ALSO THIS IS DISGUSTING, WE CAN’T JUST LET THEM SPRING THIS ON EVERYONE, BUT AGHH WHY US. So we chose collectively, as a duo, because das my other half yo, to blab.
That went over as best as anyone could hope for it to go. Now, flashforward yet again, this time to around late Novemeber/December. I had been sent word that something was going down. TVD/TO lost their Thursday slots and got bumped to Friday’s, so a plan was going on, and they made one. We’d heard that they were rearranging something mid-season because they were gonna make a crossover work, publicly we found out it would be Paul and JoMo that crossover back-to-back. THEN ONE NIGHT—I call it black friday bc that day was a fucking mess—, a friend of mine was friends with an SCer, I wanna say, and she was hearing word that the crossover did have Klaus and Caroline interact via phone call, but that it was very definitively an ending. Because they spoke about Camille and Stefan, etc, etc. Like a closing of the book type thing. So okay, we were like devastated, everyone on twitter was losing their shit. Everyone was pissed, and @-ing the writers all these crazy, sad things, we were a wreck. Ask Hillary about this night because she, I remember, describes it as ‘logging on and reading what everyone else had and not understanding why tf everyone was mad about it’. It was the first and last time that our roles were reversed, and bless her for it.
SO WE’RE SITTING THERE, it’s Saturday, and we kept getting more information and we were like…something isn’t right here. So we did a bit of digging, spoke to a few people and waited it out. LO AND BEHOLD, everything we’d heard about the phone call was false. There was a phone call but the CKers and SCers were so mad about what was actually said in it, that a few of em, ring leaders of the feeble minded, made up a version and passed it around their fandoms as legit till it eventually worked it’s way over to us. So we all jumped the gun on fake information, lmfskdnknsks. Rumor has it, you can still hear Hillary yelling ‘I told you so’ at me through our group chat.
So all was well, I couldn’t tell everyone why not to panic, just that they didn’t need to. Until, this account popped up called tvdspoiler or something on twitter, also saying false information about the phone call. Sending everyone into a panic yet again. I remember this because I was at kmart with my mom, and the kmart by my house was in a basement so I had no cell service. I was able to send like a couple of messages, and was basically like ‘tell everyone to chill, I’ll clear it up when I get home’ did that in like a couple of hours cause then I had to leave to the midnight showing of the force awakens with my friends. So that day was chaotic, but fun. It was the first time I reached 99+ messages on my inbox, lmao.
So that all happened like a good while before we actually saw the episode. But cut to a few weeks later. I woke up at 1 AM my time to drink water, was on tumblr trying to go back to sleep. I checked my inbox and there was this bizarre message talking about ‘got some scoop’ and they were like ‘Finn dies in 3x17, Aurora gets put into some weird sleeping spell in 3x18, Camille and Davina die in 3x19, Lucien dies in 3x20′ and I quite literally laughed??? Literally who wouldn’t. Like who tf would ever believe TO had the balls to do all of that when they never killed anyone off. AND, WHO WOULD BELIEVE THAT SOMEONE WOULD JUST STOP BY, SHARE IT AND LEAVE. So I sent a screenshot to Hillary and was like ‘yo did you get this because wtf’. We often got duplicate messages. And we often got messages of people who were pissed about the two previous times we, from the klaroline fandom of all places, had legit info that wound up being true, that they were just waiting for us to fuck up. So we used to get messages of people pretending they were sharing info, and it was just antis trying to make us look stupid.
SO, Hillary says ‘just answer it because it’s obviously fake’ top ten moments before disaster. I answer it and am like oh haha, and where did that info come from. And they came back like a minute later, saying ‘I have a source’ THEN THEY ELABORATED. They mentioned that Lucien drags Freya and Vincent to Mystic Falls to do this spell with some bullet and etc. So at that point we were like fUCK because that same day we’d found out was in 3x16, which ended with Lucien and this white-oak bullet, having kidnapped Freya. And that’s when we knew, that someone showed up in the middle of the night, spoiled the whole back-half of TO S3—and then left.
The back-half of S3 was so fun??? Every week the info just kept coming true. On the wikia everyone hated me, probably the most anti messages I ever had was during that time, honestly it was great, 10/10 would recommend.
THEN, at some point in our blog history, Hillary had been getting quite a few messages about PT. And she had this fucking line in one of the messages about Phoebe’s pronunciation with her accent for the show, or lack thereof. And she said “weeches and woves will always have a place in my heart” SO THEM PHOEBE TWEETED IT. THAT EXACT LINE, and we were like was she...? So we shrugged off okay. A few days later, she tweeted “hellsbellschime enough, there’s plenty of other things to watch on tv, I hear mad men’s great.” And I—
THIS WAS ON SOME RANDOM ASS SUNDAY. Like I was lounging around, waiting for the new episode of game of thrones and then WHAM, chaos. AND AS IF THAT WASNT ENOUGH, Leah joined in too. Putting a target on my friends back...about her blog that no one was making them read. You can’t make that shit up. And Jenn actually replied to Phoebe’s tweet and got a reply back, and she was all “you’re right, I’m sorry” and then deleted the original tweet, which I still have a screenshot of btw. And then Leah showed up in Hillary’s inbox with this ridiculous three part ask about how she shouldn’t criticize women in the acting industry because of how hard it is for women in that industry which is true, but it doesn’t make you exempt from criticism??? So not sure where she meant to go with that one.
SO THERE WE HAVE IT, our fandom’s greatest hits. I’m sure I can elaborate and insert more, but I’ve been typing for a good 40 minutes.
Told ya, I wrote a whole dissertation, lmaooo.
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3x19 Chapter Fifty-Four: Fear the Reaper
Join us, Betty. We welcome you.
We pick up not long after we left off; Betty’s still in her blue sweater with the interesting collar.
What’s more, she accedes to her father’s desire to ‘come home,’ and makes the (usually foolish) mistake of requesting a favor of Hiram Lodge, in the form of a prison transfer.
Okay a for-profit prison is bad enough but now you’re telling me this is one of those places wealthy white-collar criminals and wise guys go?
This is very season-2-Betty—these overalls made several appearances then. Indeed, this pink sweater + overall combo is very evocative of an outfit she wore in 211, if actually different (I’m like...80% certain these are two different pink sweaters.)
The Farm are anti-vaxxers color me zero fucking percent shocked. (Vaccinate ur kids.)
Well, not the first time we’ve seen this heart-motif sweater in this very same context. It sort of suits. In both these episodes, Betty takes a course of action that Hal encourages; both, oddly, pertaining to Penelope Blossom.
In 311 Betty investigates several murders disguised as suicide, and here—well. Here she gets Penelope to help her baby-snatch the twins, and Penelope ends up being okay with just taking Dagwood, aka “Jason Junior.”
Remember that in 311 Penelope stated she didn’t kill people, she killed men. But if Penelope loves anything, it’s 1) her late son, and 2) the possibility of raising a young boy to...not be like other men in the world? Maybe? I’m grasping towards understanding this show and sometimes it works, sometimes it’s just Riverdale Logic.
This gray peacoat with the flare-out from the waist is starting to become a standard in the repertory.
It would seem that Betty is still staying at the Lodge’s penthouse; finally, some answers.
Ms. Weiss wears a top the echoes the one Betty opened the episode in; I don’t make anything much of that, but I thought it interesting enough.
Nice view of the pleats at the back of the coat.
Gurl fucking r u n.
(But they’re not all there and we know this and Betty remembers it—and the floating babies—and she gets tf outta there.)
Black, windowpane check; it evokes the trench coat Betty debuted in 318, under...funereal circumstances. In this moment, she learns her father was in an (apparently) fatal bus crash.
These pants are a total departure from Betty’s usual trousers, they are s n u g. You’d need pliers to pull these guys up. Joking; pants have much more spandex or elastane in them nowadays, pliers are needed no longer. The purse is one we’ve seen several times since it first appeared on the scene in 215.
Summary: Four looks
I Own This: Like I said when it first appeared—I do own that heart sweater
Best outfit: Windowpane check and tight trousers intrigues me
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"It's good to see you in any time" my feels!
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Yeah I mean. If they don't have scenes now when will they have them. In 3x19 supposedly they understand they are not feeling only friendly towards each other. Take the mess with raphael aside with izzy should never even speak to raphael after all that he has done over the course of the show why won't simon and izzy have scenes now? As you said from a writer's point it makes sense to have smt per episode. And I know they will talk about their addictions again now that izzy got venom inside her.
What frustrates me so much is that the potential to establish them way before had always been there. But instead of going for it, they went with the mess that was R/izzy. Simon was THERE.
And even if you ignore the romantic association for a second, do we really buy that they are friends? Don’t get me wrong, I adore them (though mostly because of fics and my own headcanons and such) but the writers simply can’t write them. Not even a platonic friendship. Like, they barely had scenes. Like I said, I don’t even buy the whole bff in s2 and parts of s3 that would explain the kind of “I would just die for you” during the Mark of Cain plot and all.
Honestly, this whole thing is so messy when it shouldn’t be. Izzy was way out of line last time she dealt with Raphael. That shit was problematic af.... let it rest ffs! And work on Simon and Izzy. There are app. 3 eps left until 3x19 when the first kiss most likely happens. How tf they wanna explain that to me that they are all now !!!! and OMG I want you I love you You are it etc. is completely beyond me at this point.
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While I love Grant Gustin to pieces, I'm not looking forward to watching an hour long comic con involving him and Kevin praising WestAllen. Though I can't help but be curious about his forced answered and body language. If it's not too much trouble, could you pinpoint some of those moments in the video? I know it's on YouTube so I'd have no problem finding it. I'd just rather not watch the whole thing. Thank you in advance!
Here’s what I can sum up from the video.
VIP is $311. x Grant looks and acts tired from shooting Season 4 overall. David Rappaport knew him from 90210 and casthim in the role. David is also responsible for casting Candice too.Andrea was there. Right behind him at his signing booth.
Kevin moderated the interview, he compares Grant’s work ethic to Matt Damon’s. Grantkeeps smiling and waving at his fans, he’s genuine even though he looks tired.Fame and wealth make Grant nervous, that’s why he doesn’t do many cons.Kevin keeps praising Season 4 over and over but he doesn’t mean it in histone. Grant is just nodding along. Praising the show along with him. Especially because they know what it’s leading up to. These questions are pre-screened, nothing is said on the air that Grant is not prepared to answer.On how he was cast: he tested the same time as Carlos. He claims theonly person he did a chemistry read was with Candice. I notice how he spokethere, he was lying because we would have seen it by now in some way, leaked or on a DVD. He neglected to bring up his screen test with EBR,which was on Season 1 DVD, his “chemistry test” with Candice was not, “so much chemistry.” Why can’t we see it then?12:46 is where the WA talk begins. The “drama for the sake of drama comment.” Even with the small cheering Grant’s face saysit all…his body scrunches up, his shoulders are held back and tight,his face is holding something that looks like a forced smile but he isn’t smiling,he’s acting, trying to sell WA. Kevin in spite of having the question already memorized looks down.
Kevin ignores the that fact of WA are step-siblings and insteadcalls them “childhood besties” no mention of incest at all going right into “nowyou guys are married.” Grant during all of this was holding a fist and fidgeting a lot,why he is so uncomfortable? If he has chemistry with CP, why does he giveoff so much discomfort whenever WA is brought up? Grant also says “if we canstay on the air long enough” and “I hope everyone saw the finale” which indicates he isn’tconfident in the show anymore. He doesn’t know what will happen. He triesto sell us WA but he can’t help being honest in the same answer, he can’tlie but he can’t piss off his bosses. When Grant mentions “I guess we’llsee…a kid? In the future.” A small crowd cheers but when the camera pansto the crowd nobody is smiling.
I’ve counted, maybe 4-5 WAs in a sea of 8,000, andeveryone is just as serious as Grant. These are not WA stans, they are superGG fans. Nobody cares about WA.
14:16 is where it ends. Grant is relievedthe discussion is over. His curt laugh at the end points that out.6-23 was the date of the panel, Grant hasn’t gotten the script yet, but will receive it on that weekend. When this is posted Grant will have already gotten the script.On Monday the 25th was the meeting with HELLbing.Season 1 Grant was reading The New 52 to learn about BA and TF. Season 2he stopped doing that so he can focus more on the acting. He also said “as someone growingup with superheroes you don’t want to get sick of it.” Grant’s energy really picked up when Kevin started talking about the firstepisode he directed. You can tell Grant loves working with him. Kevin feelsthe same way. When they are just talking Flash, it looks natural, less forced,less promo salesman, it looks like two friends talking as opposed to Viris or WA awkwardness.
22.56 is where Kevin brings up “in every episode there is always a WA peptalk scene” it seemed they just glazed over it and Grant just nods “yup” in a repeated manner agreeing that it’s monotonous to do.
Grant praises Jesse L Martin, being a fan of his because he bonded with himfirst and he was in Rent. Tom Canavagh is brought up and Grant says he ishis favorite actor to work with. Grant talked about Tom and Grant, the moviewas based on their real on set unfunny gags, Tom wrote and directed the shortmovie. After wrapping up Season 3 Grant had plans to do a movie and Tom filmedthe short movie in 2 days. The movie Grant was supposed be a part of “fell through”it could be referring to a recast because he wasn’t available at the time.Grant says he likes Time Travel and fans will ask him questions but he alwayssays he is confused. If the writers knew what they were writing about, I’msure Grant would have a clearer answer for the fans. He clearly likes it whenBarry time travels but when it’s used the right way.He loves Captain Cold and Wentworth as a “frienemy.” Big cheers for thatone and pan to the crowd to see smiles. Weather Wizard was brought up ashis favorite rogue. Mark Hamill as The Trickster.Kevin said his favorite season is the first one and that his favorite episodewas 1x15 where Barry time travels for the first time, Danielle was mentioned. He quotes the show as “Dawson’s Creek with capes.” Greg Berlanti wasa head writer on Dawson’s Creek. 28:17 is where Grant demonstrates how he does “the run” on the show. They don’tshoot his legs in frame. At the beginning they did with a treadmill.Grant is aware of what people are saying about his physic, body frame andKevin states “you have a runner’s body.” Grant agrees, “I have more of a runner’sbody than any other type.” Grant’s favorite episode is the Season 1 finale. Grant is very proud of theepisode and Kevin agrees as he brings up his infamous crying video he postedon youtube that gave him the opportunity to direct the show.Fan Q&A was around 30min mark. First question was: What is going to happenwith Nora Allen? Grant’s response is “she’s trapped in our time. We’re probablygoing to see Barry help her get back to her time.” Second question was about Grant’s education. He never graduated from ElonUniversity but was made an Alumni. He left after hisSophomore year to go on the road for “West Side Story.” Grant didn’t believehe would end up on TV, he thought he would be on the Broadway stage.Third question was about how they shoot each episode. Grant says they prepfor a week prior with table reads of the script, then shoot an episode for8-9 days. The network and studio watch it and make notes and cuts, during that time the SFX are added in. Every time an episode is finished it is 2 months agoso the show has a lot of time to omit, re shoot, polish what they want interms of what will make the cut. I don’t believe at all the show runnersare avoiding the feedback. They could easily incorporate so many things for future episodes it’sthat they choose not to. Do not tell me this is hard for them to do. Thisis how TV is run, especially a show like this. Grant says his favorite crossovers to shoot was possibly the last one inEarth X, but it was the hardest one, the Supergirl crossover was highlightedbecause of the location in LA. Grant lives in Venice Beach, Ca. Brandon Routhis his favorite actor to work with aside from Melissa and Stephen.Grant says working with Tom is a blessing and a challenge. He lovesbeing directed by Tom almost as good as being directed by Kevin. Flash has made him want to be a director but he doesn’t see it happeningwith the show. He calls it “impossible” but he mentions being interested indirecting an episode for their last season if “they let him.” The amountof control these show runners have is disgusting. Grant is a decent person and the star.He shouldn’t feel apprehensive if he wanted to direct, it’d be an honor if he did.He understands the character better than anyone. Kevin snuck in “before itall ends, who knows it might go on forever” Grant responds with “notforever.” At 38:10 the question is: how many more seasons do you think the show isgoing to do? He said at least 3 more, that takes it up to Season 7 but he saysanything could happen. Kevin adds “it’s strong in the ratings forThe CW.” Meaning if it was on a real network, it would be already cancelled.2 million viewers is not high. Right now with the adjusted they are at 3.0,with a demo of .6 thanks to the horrible Season 4 disaster Viris WA obsession. Kevin also added which surprisedme “the show will go on as long as Grant wants it to go.” Grant said he knew Kevin was gonna say that. Kevin says back it could go on for 26 seasons. Grant says sarcastically “imagine that?” Grant’s favorite musical is “Singin in the Rain” which got him interested in performing. The best part of being Flash is they give him his own superhero suit. Hementions wanting an authentic version of Christopher Reeves Superman suit.He likes wearing Star Labs and CCPD sweatshirts. The guy who asked the questionstarted asking Kevin a question and Grant was all “wtf wasn’t this supposedto be about me”? Everyone in the crowd laughed.His most difficult scene to film which was also his favorite was the scenewith Barry and his mom at the end of Season 1. His other most difficultscene was in Tom Canvanagh’s directed episode 3x19 where EmoBarry was. Kevincalled Grant with the wig “My Chemical Barry.” Grant said it was hard to shootbecause of the two conflicting emotions of playing Present Barry and FutureBarry wearing “a stupid wig.” Kevin compared EmoBarry to a “Hot Topic Employee.”Grant’s favorite Season is the first one, mainly because of how well the finale was constructed “so perfectly.”46:18 is where the question about which he prefers: his fictional WArelationship or his real relationship with Andrea. His exact words are: “Ienjoy my real relationship much more. Nothing against Candice, love to d-greatly.Yeah, it’s obviously very different. One is scripted for me and fictional.One plays itself out and I love her very much in real life. So, I think thoseare probably the biggest differences.” He doesn’t know what to say, the questionitself was lame, obviously there are huge separations from fiction and fact something the delusional doesn’t comprehend.Grant feels uncomfortable answering but he was polite and humored the guywho was obviously a huge Gr*ndice and WA stan. One of the 5 stans in there.When Grant does cons he doesn’t know how much it means to people and he’sgrateful for everything the fans give. He loves what he does. Grant loved filming the musical episode. No WA mentions. Especially singing “Superfriend”because he got to tap dance again. The crowd wants him to sing the song andGrant says he won’t. He thinks the heroes in real life are the troops, his mom because she was a single mother and supported his dreams.A fan asked “will we get a Run Nora, Run from Barry?” Grant credits Tom formaking that line iconic. Kevin agrees. Kevin says he did versions of theline in “The Runaway Dinosaur” because he loved it so much. Kevin said it is the show’s version of “May the force be with you.” No mention of “we are the flash” I wonder why….Grant answered what he has learned being The Flash and Grant credits Season1 again. He learned a lot from Barry’s empathy, his humility. He is a betterman than Grant is.
Grant got another fan request shout out but in the videohe said “Are we ready? You’re not here but 8,000 other people are.” Crowdwent nuts. The same fan asked him if he wanted to play a Marvel superhero,which would he play. He said Spider-Man. Grant comments on what it’s like to be the star of a TV show. Even thoughhe knows he is the star in truth, he is very humble in saying it’s an ensembleshow. No mentions of CP or IW or WA. Hear that stans who stalk this blog? Grant is too much of a gentlemen to bait you demons.Grant’s most embarrassing scene was when he slide across the floor in 4x02“Mixed Signals” paying homage to Risky Business. He says because he has “chickenlegs.” He also says in the finale when Wally comes back he dropped 6 champagne glasses in 2 takes. It’s included in the bloopers. He says if he goes to the Vancouver Con he will bringhis dogs. Grant says he watches when people on set run and walk and compare it to howhe does it unintentionally. He’s met people in life that want to race him.He feels like he is a fast runner in real life, but he admits out loud hedoesn’t like running. When they are using science jargon, Grant doesn’t know what they are talking about unless he googles it. Grant loves playing the villain more than the hero. Savitar was a lot of fun for him to play. It could be because he loved working with Danielle more closely but the show will not allow any Snowbarry mentions, he’s there to plug WA, it would destroy WA as a whole and he knows it.The last couple of minutes they were talking about Grant’s famous slide into scenes, he does it at the last minute of the interview. Do with the information as you will. Grant has highs and lows here. Whenthe lows are pretty low it’s jarring when they are high it’s obvious wherehis heart is. He is a good guy that doesn’t deserve the bad treatment he’sbeen getting. Whether it’s about his character, CP’s repeated abuse of him and body shamming. Grant is nothing but friendly and takes the punches with thepraise. I hope he does more cons in the future, maybe when he is more rested and less fatigued.
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I think a lot of the episode focus will be on Barry tbh. When filming 3x19 CP wasn't the only cast member with huge chunks of time off. DP, KL and TF also left for about the same amount of days CP did. I mean I always want more Iris too but the point of 3x19 is to enforce that a world without Iris is a terrible place to be in. They can't really do that unless they show a world without Iris you know.
I agree that most of the focus will be on the many Barrys. And I agree about the world without Iris, too. The synopsis didn’t really change my opinion of the episode: I’m excited for Barry to finally step up, and I’m ready to get this story over with in the hopes that Iris will be free to have a professional arc next season.
I think the ep description is a good thing. We really need to see Barry be a leader and have a win, and inspiring the people in the future is a much needed win tbh even though we don’t know if that future will keep existing. It’s much better this (if it sticks) than ‘Barry goes to the future and messes up people’s lives even more than they already are to get what he needs’.
My thoughts exactly. Barry being inspirational is better than Barry demanding pep talks from people who have lost everything, including their showers and harstylists.
I was wondering if you had any theories as to why Keiy has had so much time off. He’s almost hasn’t been filming in Vancouver upwards to 6 days now. I also believe in 320 or 321 he was also in Atlanta for nearly a week. Why is Wally getting less screen time as the series draws to a close? Kinda makes me think he actually might be Savitar….
I don’t really have a theory, but Keiy might have just rearranged his schedule to be able to work on a project. If Wally isn’t suiting up so much - maybe he’s taking a break because Barry’s handling it? - then Keiy only needs to be on set for 2 or 3 days an episode.
I hope Wally’s not Savitar, but it’s a possibility.
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As far as TVD rewatch/metas, some episodes I would love to see your take on are 1x06, 1x11, 1x17, 1x19, 1x20, 2x01, 2x07, 2x08, 2x12, 2x16, 2x18, 2x22, 3x01, 3x04, 3x05, 3x10, 3x14, 3x19, 3x22. I think that those are some of the most interesting in regards to Damon's character arc and relationships with Elena and the other MF crew. Thank you so much for taking requests, I'd love to hear what you think! (Also feel free to question me or say "how about you chill out?") :D
1x6 trashes tf out of the Stelena ship. You can see their future in those flashbacks. 1x11 is fantastic... the foundation of Delena's friendship. It contains a scene that affects a future Stelena scene. 2x1 is Damon's collapse. That's when he has to rebuild himself just as Elena and Stefan have been since the open. 3x1 is when she falls for Damon, and I do mean truly falls. That's why Damon questions her at the end of 3x2. She chose him over Stefan in those mountains.
Yeah...I could keep going. I'm gonna start 1x4 tonight, but I'm sure it won't be done until tomorrow.
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She’s the love of your life, Barry. She was the love of my life.
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😭😭😭
#theflashedit#the flash#barry allen#grant gustin#barryallenedit#that scene#that whole scene#another proof how brilliant actor grant is#i mean just look at him#his eyes#dear lord#the EYES!#this makes my heart hurt sooooooooo much#can't even begin to imagine#what 3x19 will do to me#it is going to hurt like mofo#tf 3x18
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wells-bennett replied to your post: Yikes, I just read that CM is writing episode 3x19...
Dear god
AMARAH, HONESTLY, HAVEN’T WE SUFFERED ENOUGH. WHO TF DID WE PISS OFF NOW?
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