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allersinwonderland · 8 months ago

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The sexy older brother of Ryoma? We love to see it.

I wonder if we’ll ever learn more about his (Ryoga's) mother. My understanding of Ryoga is quite minimal given i had never watched the OVA he was introduced in / dropped shinteni a decade ago and only returning now. IIRC-- his mother passed away, but minimal background was provided.

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One thing I have yet to understand— how does one gain the ability to join and become a country’s u17 rep?

Tezuka was eventually able to get on Germany’s team as he did training there. Does he need citizenship/ how did that go through?

Ryoga— when he was introduced the Japan team said they picked him up overseas AND he had Japanese citizenship so he could be on Japan’s team. But then how was he also able to be on USA AND SPAIN? Ryoma was born in US -> us citizen, that plot hole checked out.

Is ryoga’s mom Spanish??? But nanjiroh lost his custody …any international custody implications?? Is there only a clause where it is like "if you undergo "x" amount of training (re: Tezuka cause I'm pretty sure he doesn't have citizenship? But he has sponsporship interests?) to qualify? (Also what is Tube?? This is what happens when you read spoilers and aren’t there 🤣🤣🤣)

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Thoughts on RYOGA:

He likes oranges, napping, and loves break-dancing. (Also is talented jet-skiing. i don’t have much to comment on there, other than him being good at tennis & break-dancing makes him likely a well-rounded athletic individual that can pick up athletics).

What’s REALLY interesting is that he’s strong in linguistics, but then semi-appears to contradict this thought/concept with his favorite quote: “You don’t need words for tennis” (similar to dancing, honestly). AND it (his profile) says he’s bad at English. So... getting around the world WITHOUT English. Duly noted, Ryoga.

SIR HOW CAN YOU BE GOOD AT LINGUISTICS and then bad/ avoid speaking English. Granted, if you studied Japanese / Eastern languages first, English is complicated….but also….strong (?) in linguistics???

Semi/ headcannon mode time?

Maybe the linguistics isn’t meant to be fully taken for languages (cause….not liking/ being bad at the modern day lingua franca and being strong at linguistics is VERY oxymoronic) but as a structure of syntax/ structure/relationships of [words]/ contexts/ sounds.

Back to the idea where TENNIS doesn’t need speaking to communicate…his favorite quote, who also happens to be from his retired pro-tennis father, now monk. Nanjirou..does he ever really speak English in the manga/anime/ is this canon? He must've, but is he really strong at English? Unknown. Let's say he's average at best and not super strong; his tennis would've done all the talking anyway. I see this quote to Ryoga as some sort of father-son bonding and teaching moment where Nanjirou used tennis to bond with his sons, and Ryoga saw it helped to connect/ integrate him into the family and his brotherhood with Ryoma. Perhaps Ryoga’s mind understands how structure works in a variety of cases.

His preferred type is someone who can see ideas and concepts from another perspective; he likes doing the unexpected and being surprising. He likes carnivals (honestly I find them kind of quirky/ whimsical), but dislikes timetables, dislikes (and is bad at) English as well as LECTURES (overarching). He likes to sleep and his schedule mainly is observing/ sleeping.

At the camps…it’s structured to train and be better at tennis. He’s good at tennis, but I’d argue he doesn’t LOVE tennis, not in the way Nanjirou and Ryoma love it. It’s his means and methods to speak and communicate to his family (and teammates), and clearly he’s good at it... but at the end of the day...it’s just an end to the means.

As a dancer (? Can i even fully say this hahah bad at basics and technique but lover of movement— Chinese ethnic and folk dancer/ former high school competitive show choir performer? Lololol and dabbled in learning various styles) Break-dancing is one of the dance styles that I’ve found to be the least restricted by rules/ moves. Lots of improv, rarely/ if ever choreographed, and very spur of the moment, on your feet. He CLEARLY knows that lots of dance is “linguistic” in a sense that there is rules/ patterns/ styles. Break-dancing is the most unexpected.

Back to Ryoga--He dislikes lectures…being told what he needs to do. He’s good at finding the rules and structure…so what I see here is he wants to create. He seems to really love Ryoma as his older bro, and the flashbacks to how they were as kids made it seem like he really loved his time with Nanjirou even if certain years were missed out initially. Who knows how his life was with his aunt post-custody changing...but that kind of impact/ background can really mess wiht one's mental health & psyche and identity of one's self. Dance is a universal language, relying on sounds and rhythms to be visually artistic and an expression. I think Ryoga toys with the concepts of expression and disruption/destruction. Heck, even his tennis move specialty is destruction? (The destroy agenda L O L) Just because he’s good at linguistics doesn’t mean he wants to follow it or structure overall. At all.

Despite many years on and off in tenipuri fandom…i know batshit about tennis. But, it is still a stricter game of competition, and doesn’t really allow for full self-expression. It’s minimum two players at the court where the largest stretch of linguistic tie in is a conversation between competitors.

Break-dancing and napping (re:dreaming) gives him an escape of reality and providers a voice where he can be himself without a strong overbearing structure in place. He understands the rules in place, but doesn’t want to be “lectured” or forced into the box. He aims to be unexpected and wants to be creative. He wants to challenge expectations and rules and do the unexpected.

This kid is just trying to break rules left and right. Tennis has more rules than he’d like, but he’d deal and use it for the people he cares about. I’d bet if Ryoma/ maybe even Nanjirou showed any inkling of break-dancing interest perhaps he’d drop tennis.

Martha Graham, famous America modern dancer and choreographer had a quote (that I had learned through Black Swan from BTS): “a dancer dies twice — once when they stop dancing, and this first death is the more painful.”

I think Ryoga’s true calling, given when I know from his profile/ brief snippets is more as a breakdancer. Tennis is just what’s there now.

Suppose Ryoga DID incorporate break-dancing into his tennis as TeniRabi said --he's using tennis as a new means for his most comfortable form of personal expression. I'm interesting to see if they have more events where he does dancing with Jackal (who did hiphop) and Kamio (who did tap) while Koharu had idol-dancing. He's clearly interested and exciting by various dance styles, so I wonder if they'll either discuss on how his break-dancing changes or if he tries to incorporate this into other parts of his tennis.

Man, my interest in Ryoga was already pretty high (I mean, LOOK AT HIM), but this dance x linguistics headcannon shot him wayyy high up.

(@tcafs08 this LITERALLY is like a mix on Sayaka's character and Izumi. Moreso Izumi I guess, but I see bits of Sayaka in him. You freaking genius, but your OCs were created decades early. )

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citations: https://spicykaraage.tumblr.com/post/750511539067453440/ryoga-echizen-tenigo-episodes-story-translation (See references to actual tenirabi cannon EXCITED RYOGA. His interest is off the walls, reminds me of me when I talk to other people sometimes on my (albeit not super technical/well developed opinions on certain dance/ vocal pedagogy/ anything I fangirl on. I see you, Ryoga hahahha)

Just some long-thoughts given the tenirabi players say they REALLY drive home the interest in dance. There’s SO MUCH you can do with that interest, i don’t blame them. Jiroh already took the napping interest.

@spicykaraage thank you for translating :). I’ve enjoyed your longer posts here as well the shorter inklings on Twitter. I’m going to keep my eye on Ryoga hahahahah

(edit: typos/ slight clarification and format/restructuring as the original was typed in mobile)

Tenipuri Complete Profile - Ryoga Echizen

[PROFILE]

Birthday: December 23rd (Capricorn)

Blood Type: O

Relatives: Father (Nanjirou Echizen), Mother

Father’s Occupation: Temple Priest (local)

High School: Unknown

Grade: Unknown

Committee: None

Strong Subjects: Linguistics

Weak Subjects: Lectures

U-17 Training Camp Position & Rank: First String | No.4 (resigned)

World Cup Team: U-17 World Cup USA Representatives ➜ U-17 World Cup Spanish Representatives

Favorite Motto: “You don’t need words for tennis.” (a quote he got from Nanjirou)

Hobbies: Napping, looking for delicious oranges

Favorite Color: Orange

Favorite Book: A collection of astrophotography

Favorite Food: Oranges, chicken sautéed with orange ➜ Prosciutto and orange pintxos [TP]

Favorite Anniversary: The day before and after Christmas

Preferred Type: A person who can look at things from another person’s perspective

Ideal Date Spot: Being in the cool shade under a tree

His Gift for a Special Person: “I’ll go beyond your expectations.”

Where He Wants to Travel: “I’ve been all over the world… A carnival, maybe?”

Thing He Wants Most Right Now: A new racquet ➜ An aerial yoga hammock [23.5] ➜ “Take a wild guess.” [TP]

Dislikes: Rain, bean paste [TP], timetables [TP]

Skills Outside of Tennis: Breakdancing, getting around in the world [TP]

Routine During the World Cup: Teasing Ryoma

[DATA]

Height: 180cm

Weight: 67kg

Dominant Arm: Right

Vision: 1.4 Left & Right

Play Style: All-Rounder

Signature Moves: Destruction

Favorite Brands:

Racquet: WILSON TourBLX95

Shoes: YONEX POWER CUSHION25 MEN

Overall Rating: N/A

Kurobe Memo: “A lot of things are unknown about this player who Byoudouin brought back with him from overseas. Since he has Byoudouin’s approval, there's no doubt he has considerable potential.”

[POSSESIONS]

What’s in His Locker at the U-17 Training Camp:

An orange and a note that says “You’ve got a ways to go.”

What’s in His Travel Bag:

A comb that Duke used // He borrowed it when he was at the training camp

[TRIVIA]

The Prince of Tennis II 10.5 Fanbook

Even though he’s been abroad, he is not good at English and avoids speaking it if he can. Even when he was in the US, he tried speaking Japanese as much as possible

He likes Fanta/Ponta like Ryoma, but orange-flavored

He carries oranges with him at all times

He is secretly good at jet-skiing

The Prince of Tennis II 23.5 Fanbook

He borrows clothes from his father, Nanjirou. Ryoma has stated he strongly resembles him

Unlike Ryoma, Ryoga is fine with doubles

The Prince of Tennis 20th Anniversary Book: Tenipuri Party

He thinks of Nanjirou as someone he admires and a wall he wants to surpass

One of His Off Days at the Training Camp:

10:00am - Wakes up, showers

11:00am - Has a light rally session with Ryoma

12:30pm - Lunch at the cafe (a hot dog and orange juice)