#suicide baiting mention -

[just-antithings]

normal person behavior!

[valcaira]

"Empaths" be like:

"I'm such an empath!! I'm such a good person who would never abuse anyone and I'm literally an angel on earth because I can sense the ✨energy✨ of others!!!! Live Laugh Love!!!!! Anyway that's why I want every single narcissist to die a horrible death and rot away in prisons and be segregated from soceity and be abused and kill themselves and I love speading hate about people with a specific subset of mental illness that they cannot control. Look how much of a pure and loving empath I am!!!!!!"

[thedeafprophet]

welp can cross suicide baiting off my 'things i've experienced online' list

[crystalkiseki]

ruby was 12 when she died of course she'd tell people on twitter to kill themselves

[syscourse-confessions]

💙- Vent. TW suicide baiting mention, lots of cussing. Replies of any kind OK, idc just need to put this out there

We're a DID system, professionally diagnosed. And we just need to get this off our chest - The DID/OSDD is the single most toxic, hateful, exclusionary, and controlling community we've ever interacted with. That includes communities for every other demographic we occupy (queer, autistic, personality disorder, etc) and every single subculture / fandom we've been apart of as well. .

First of all, the anti-endo shit. Despite being [partially] traumagenic and heavily disordered, we're passionately supportive of endos. And oh boy you better believe that means we get excluded and harassed right away. We've been told to kill ourselves, been told we're lying about our diagnosis and trauma, been told we deserved our trauma, that they hope it happens again, etc. All for the crime of *checks notes* believing that people can determine their own subjective, internal experiences :|

Pretty much all other forms of syscourse are awful too. The fact that there's been entire blogs on here dedicated to trying to spot fakers. The fact that having too many alters or fictives, or not having enough, or not being able to afford a diagnosis, or having weird system experiences, can all get your fakeclaimed. The fact that now people are debating over whether or not OSDD-1a "counts" as a system.

The entire community is absolutely obsessed with controlling how others identify and what qualifies as being a system. They attempt to put boundaries around how severe your trauma has to be, or what age the trauma happens at. They're genuinely willing to look a trauma survivor in the face and say, "Well actually, since your trauma happened when you were 10 years old its impossible for you to be a system, teehee sorry, your own internal experiences don't matter <3".

They think that psychiatrists are the be-all-end-all of every neurodivergent experience Ever, despite how psychiatry has historically been wildly racist, sexist, queerphobic, and just generally suppresses people who don't fit into the norm.

They also try to dictate what recovery looks like for literally everyone, that you should want final fusion. Or if they're ok with functional multiplicity, that you should want to have as few alters as possible, and that they all have to be as normal as possible. Introjects are told that being close to their source is inherently anti-recovery. Every kind of system experience is treated as inherently pathological and something that should be fixed.

And yeah, I know that this obviously not applicable to everyone in the community. Some of these statements are relatively niche arguments, but they're all real ones I've actually seen people debating over. And more importantly, the community fosters these kinds of shitty awful takes because the entire community is built around control and exclusion. It keeps getting taken further and further entire more and more systems are being squeezed out, and only the few Acceptable systems remain.

Thank god we have the plural community, which obviously has it problems too, but the DID/OSDD community is so vitriolic, so vicious towards the "wrong kind" of trauma survivors, and so exclusionary that it is entirely antithetical to recovery and healing as a system. Its so fucking awful, and I hate it more than anything.

💙 - Vent

[fairymint]

I'm getting ready to stream modded stardew multiplayer with a friend I've just made, but in the meantime, I'm going to mull aloud-

The most fucked up thing about Haru in DeSu, is that, reportedly, the player can be an absolutely be a terrible person and not only just simply fail to save her from 'suicide by cop' but....

apparently actively encourage it and blame her, to which she smiles about it before running off and becoming a news headline by attacking the army...

[puppyluver256]

Saw this in a random blog's pinned post earlier today and I couldn't stop thinking about how it made me feel, so I'm just gonna say this:

If you ever tell people to kill themselves for any reason other than something like "we are playing a video game together and I am telling them that to make progress the player literally has to let their character die", you're an awful person and you need to work on improving yourself.

I don't care if you think their beliefs are repugnant. I don't care if they have personally done horrible things. By telling someone to end their life, you have a repugnant belief (in that you believe anyone deserves or should be obligated to die by their own hand) and you have done something horrible (suicide baiting in general). Get some help before you have blood on your hands.

[evilwriter37]

I know the tumblr abuse team sucks, but wow, people are just allowed to make jokes about suicide baiting now, huh?

Fuck you, tumblr.

[brettdoesdiscourse]

Also, if you want people to listen to the point you're making in a conversation, wishing violence and death doesn't do that.

The only thing you've done is,

1) Give people who disagree with you an easy out by saying, "oh this person is unwell anyway, they're actively wishing violence on others. Why should we listen to them?"

2) Discourages people who are willing to hear your point out because they're not comfortable supporting/agreeing with a message that includes wishes of violence.

3) Pushes away people who agree with you because they also don't support a message encouraging violence.

Online, if you're actually trying to change minds or educate people, you need to make your point accessible and something people are willing to support.

And most the time, people say shit like this and get called out for making threats will scream, "but I didn't actually mean it!!" Then why say it. Why threaten someone, and make your argument less valid, just for something you didn't mean? And why do you feel so comfortable threatening violence that you're randomly throwing it into your posts?

[just-antithings]

I find it weird when antis from RPF fandom write shit like “DNI: PROSHITTER KYS.” But ship real people. So, it was not okay when I did it, but it was fine when you and others did it. Like how can they not see themselves as hypocritical?

- Sincerely from a person who came from POTUS fandom. (It’s a very weird fandom on Tumblr, trust me.)

POTUS as in president of the United States?!?

[oncforallxbroccoli]

Random Asks (always accepting) || anonymous asksed:

Izuku, if you had taken 14-year old Bakugo’s advice that fateful day to jump off the roof, do you think he would have mourned you? Regretted his actions?

"I... I don't know if he would have mourned, but I'd like to think he'd regret his actions. Especially since if I did jump -- he would've gotten in trouble for bullying me into suicide." And that would've heavily affected his chances of being a hero.

[revenant-coining]

re tumblr brackets: as a fictive of something pretty popular people get REALLY NASTY about the opposing side in an "unfair" bracket and it's hard to watch, I've seen people call for suibaiting people who vote the more popular option or going on long tirades of victim blaming over the "character" (me)'s personal trauma. please help /lh

eck sorry that's happening 2 u. fandom spaces can be so. weird to put it lightly sometimes :/

[sorin-sunchild]

I think we need to understand that it's not just trans feminine people that need protection advice. Every single trans* person, regardless of gender and presentation, should learn how to protect themselves and be supported in doing that. You never know when you're going to cross paths with someone that looks at you and decides this is the day you get hurt. Not because you're a trans woman or a trans man or nonbinary specifically but because you're not cis (or at least, don't look it, since even slightly gnc people get badly treated by these kinds of people too). It could be a couple of women who decide you're not woman enough so it's fine to harass you in the street for presenting as one. It could be the man who lays his hands on you because you're still actually a woman no matter how much you transition and that's how he treats women.

It could be the online harassment campaign to get you fired because obviously identifying as a woman now makes you a predator. It's the person who decided to rape you because you still have a vagina and that's how you'll be 'brought to your senses'. It's the thousands of messages telling you to kys that accumulate in actually being doxxed, followed and threatened for not existing as the gender or presentation they want you to. If we stand together, if we give everyone the tools to protect themselves, we can start fighting back.

[infiniteglitterfall]

Okay, but you guys know we can see you, right?

Like, Jews are extremely aware that the only conversion going on about antisemitism is not "Jews are saying it's antisemitic to co-opt and redefine 'Zionist,'" or "Jews are saying that the way we're talking about 'Zionists' is encouraging actual hatred and violence toward Jews regardless of political stance."

It's, "Israel wants Jews to think they aren't safe anywhere else! We need to stop antisemitism so Jews stop wanting Israel to exist!"

And all the stuff you suggest would be REALLY GREAT, ngl. It would be fucking SWELL if people stopped attacking synagogues: including yelling things at people walking toward synagogues, or assaulting them, or defacing synagogues, or calling in bomb threats for hundreds and hundreds of synagogues every week for months. No more KILLING would be just PEACHY. I support ALL of this.

But also, Jews are like any other marginalized group.

The way you make a space safe for any marginalized group is by listening to and believing what its members say about their own experiences and challenges. Centering their voices about issues that directly affect them.

What currently happens in I/P discourse is exactly the opposite. Which is to say, it ranges from knee-jerk dismissal to telling people to kill themselves.

Even just calling out extremely blatant antisemitism while maintaining your stance would be a great start. I have literally seen one (1) post in the past 6 months where non-Jews told someone being antisemitic to knock it off.

When a post has multiple notes that call for the death of Jews who have "the wrong opinion," like "I unironically hope every Zionist dies," and they're going unchallenged... the vibe is definitely, "my community set a bar for antisemitism once! but then it was too low, and someone tripped on it and broke it, and we threw it out."

Jewish culture, in particular, highly values discussion and debate. IMHO, the entire I/P discourse might be doomed as far as Making Jews Feel Safe goes, because it generally treats any kind of disagreement or discussion as if what the person had actually said was, "I like to eat Palestinian babies!"

(Pro tip for expert-level pushback against antisemitism: blood libel is not just the explicit statement that Jews eat babies. It's also the general sense that we might not LITERALLY EAT babies, but it's definitely more plausible that we SUPPORT that sort of thing than it would be with Brayden down the hall or Karen across the street.)

op turned off reblogs on this post for safety reasons but gave me permission to repost it because it's an important message.

[syscourse-confessions]

as a traumagenic system who was harassed, fake claimed, and suicide baited im so sick of anti-endos acting like their community has done no wrong and its all those horrible pro-endos making trauma survivors unsafe

pro-endos didn't mock our trauma, pro-endos didn't try and force us to use language that increased our dissociation and intrusive thoughts, pro-endos didn't fucking send us suicide bait and gore.

we have been driven out of spaces and made unsafe by anti-endos so many more times than pro-endos and none of them will acknowledge that their community could ever harm anyone whose traumagenic.

they constantly talk about how horrible shared spaces are meanwhile we'll likely never be comfortable in a traumagenic only spaces again after the hell that anti-endos have put us through in them before

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[ix-c-999]

i have mental illness about zaphod but not in the same way that most people on tumblr would mean if they said they have mental illness about a character and it's the kind of mental illness people will tell me to kill myself over if i talk about it but please believe me that i am mentally unwell about this character