#suicide baiting mention -

[just-antithings]

normal person behavior!

[valcaira]

"Empaths" be like:

"I'm such an empath!! I'm such a good person who would never abuse anyone and I'm literally an angel on earth because I can sense the ✨energy✨ of others!!!! Live Laugh Love!!!!! Anyway that's why I want every single narcissist to die a horrible death and rot away in prisons and be segregated from soceity and be abused and kill themselves and I love speading hate about people with a specific subset of mental illness that they cannot control. Look how much of a pure and loving empath I am!!!!!!"

[thedeafprophet]

welp can cross suicide baiting off my 'things i've experienced online' list

[crystalkiseki]

ruby was 12 when she died of course she'd tell people on twitter to kill themselves

[syscourse-confessions]

💙- Vent. TW suicide baiting mention, lots of cussing. Replies of any kind OK, idc just need to put this out there

We're a DID system, professionally diagnosed. And we just need to get this off our chest - The DID/OSDD is the single most toxic, hateful, exclusionary, and controlling community we've ever interacted with. That includes communities for every other demographic we occupy (queer, autistic, personality disorder, etc) and every single subculture / fandom we've been apart of as well. .

First of all, the anti-endo shit. Despite being [partially] traumagenic and heavily disordered, we're passionately supportive of endos. And oh boy you better believe that means we get excluded and harassed right away. We've been told to kill ourselves, been told we're lying about our diagnosis and trauma, been told we deserved our trauma, that they hope it happens again, etc. All for the crime of *checks notes* believing that people can determine their own subjective, internal experiences :|

Pretty much all other forms of syscourse are awful too. The fact that there's been entire blogs on here dedicated to trying to spot fakers. The fact that having too many alters or fictives, or not having enough, or not being able to afford a diagnosis, or having weird system experiences, can all get your fakeclaimed. The fact that now people are debating over whether or not OSDD-1a "counts" as a system.

The entire community is absolutely obsessed with controlling how others identify and what qualifies as being a system. They attempt to put boundaries around how severe your trauma has to be, or what age the trauma happens at. They're genuinely willing to look a trauma survivor in the face and say, "Well actually, since your trauma happened when you were 10 years old its impossible for you to be a system, teehee sorry, your own internal experiences don't matter <3".

They think that psychiatrists are the be-all-end-all of every neurodivergent experience Ever, despite how psychiatry has historically been wildly racist, sexist, queerphobic, and just generally suppresses people who don't fit into the norm.

They also try to dictate what recovery looks like for literally everyone, that you should want final fusion. Or if they're ok with functional multiplicity, that you should want to have as few alters as possible, and that they all have to be as normal as possible. Introjects are told that being close to their source is inherently anti-recovery. Every kind of system experience is treated as inherently pathological and something that should be fixed.

And yeah, I know that this obviously not applicable to everyone in the community. Some of these statements are relatively niche arguments, but they're all real ones I've actually seen people debating over. And more importantly, the community fosters these kinds of shitty awful takes because the entire community is built around control and exclusion. It keeps getting taken further and further entire more and more systems are being squeezed out, and only the few Acceptable systems remain.

Thank god we have the plural community, which obviously has it problems too, but the DID/OSDD community is so vitriolic, so vicious towards the "wrong kind" of trauma survivors, and so exclusionary that it is entirely antithetical to recovery and healing as a system. Its so fucking awful, and I hate it more than anything.

💙 - Vent

[fairymint]

I'm getting ready to stream modded stardew multiplayer with a friend I've just made, but in the meantime, I'm going to mull aloud-

The most fucked up thing about Haru in DeSu, is that, reportedly, the player can be an absolutely be a terrible person and not only just simply fail to save her from 'suicide by cop' but....

apparently actively encourage it and blame her, to which she smiles about it before running off and becoming a news headline by attacking the army...

[puppyluver256]

Saw this in a random blog's pinned post earlier today and I couldn't stop thinking about how it made me feel, so I'm just gonna say this:

If you ever tell people to kill themselves for any reason other than something like "we are playing a video game together and I am telling them that to make progress the player literally has to let their character die", you're an awful person and you need to work on improving yourself.

I don't care if you think their beliefs are repugnant. I don't care if they have personally done horrible things. By telling someone to end their life, you have a repugnant belief (in that you believe anyone deserves or should be obligated to die by their own hand) and you have done something horrible (suicide baiting in general). Get some help before you have blood on your hands.

[evilwriter37]

I know the tumblr abuse team sucks, but wow, people are just allowed to make jokes about suicide baiting now, huh?

Fuck you, tumblr.

[brettdoesdiscourse]

Also, if you want people to listen to the point you're making in a conversation, wishing violence and death doesn't do that.

The only thing you've done is,

1) Give people who disagree with you an easy out by saying, "oh this person is unwell anyway, they're actively wishing violence on others. Why should we listen to them?"

2) Discourages people who are willing to hear your point out because they're not comfortable supporting/agreeing with a message that includes wishes of violence.

3) Pushes away people who agree with you because they also don't support a message encouraging violence.

Online, if you're actually trying to change minds or educate people, you need to make your point accessible and something people are willing to support.

And most the time, people say shit like this and get called out for making threats will scream, "but I didn't actually mean it!!" Then why say it. Why threaten someone, and make your argument less valid, just for something you didn't mean? And why do you feel so comfortable threatening violence that you're randomly throwing it into your posts?

[just-antithings]

I find it weird when antis from RPF fandom write shit like “DNI: PROSHITTER KYS.” But ship real people. So, it was not okay when I did it, but it was fine when you and others did it. Like how can they not see themselves as hypocritical?

- Sincerely from a person who came from POTUS fandom. (It’s a very weird fandom on Tumblr, trust me.)

POTUS as in president of the United States?!?

[oncforallxbroccoli]

Random Asks (always accepting) || anonymous asksed:

Izuku, if you had taken 14-year old Bakugo’s advice that fateful day to jump off the roof, do you think he would have mourned you? Regretted his actions?

"I... I don't know if he would have mourned, but I'd like to think he'd regret his actions. Especially since if I did jump -- he would've gotten in trouble for bullying me into suicide." And that would've heavily affected his chances of being a hero.

[revenant-coining]

re tumblr brackets: as a fictive of something pretty popular people get REALLY NASTY about the opposing side in an "unfair" bracket and it's hard to watch, I've seen people call for suibaiting people who vote the more popular option or going on long tirades of victim blaming over the "character" (me)'s personal trauma. please help /lh

eck sorry that's happening 2 u. fandom spaces can be so. weird to put it lightly sometimes :/

[sorin-sunchild]

I think we need to understand that it's not just trans feminine people that need protection advice. Every single trans* person, regardless of gender and presentation, should learn how to protect themselves and be supported in doing that. You never know when you're going to cross paths with someone that looks at you and decides this is the day you get hurt. Not because you're a trans woman or a trans man or nonbinary specifically but because you're not cis (or at least, don't look it, since even slightly gnc people get badly treated by these kinds of people too). It could be a couple of women who decide you're not woman enough so it's fine to harass you in the street for presenting as one. It could be the man who lays his hands on you because you're still actually a woman no matter how much you transition and that's how he treats women.

It could be the online harassment campaign to get you fired because obviously identifying as a woman now makes you a predator. It's the person who decided to rape you because you still have a vagina and that's how you'll be 'brought to your senses'. It's the thousands of messages telling you to kys that accumulate in actually being doxxed, followed and threatened for not existing as the gender or presentation they want you to. If we stand together, if we give everyone the tools to protect themselves, we can start fighting back.

[strebcrarchives]

If you suicide bait people via anon then you my dude are a fucking loser. Idk what else to tell ya, go outside and touch some fucking grass.

[syscourse-confessions]

as a traumagenic system who was harassed, fake claimed, and suicide baited im so sick of anti-endos acting like their community has done no wrong and its all those horrible pro-endos making trauma survivors unsafe

pro-endos didn't mock our trauma, pro-endos didn't try and force us to use language that increased our dissociation and intrusive thoughts, pro-endos didn't fucking send us suicide bait and gore.

we have been driven out of spaces and made unsafe by anti-endos so many more times than pro-endos and none of them will acknowledge that their community could ever harm anyone whose traumagenic.

they constantly talk about how horrible shared spaces are meanwhile we'll likely never be comfortable in a traumagenic only spaces again after the hell that anti-endos have put us through in them before

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[transfaabulous]

I tried to explain patiently and politely to someone why telling people to commit suicide was unacceptable and they responded simply by saying "nerd" so I called them a cunt, told them to fuck off, and blocked them.

I am still furious. How the fuck is this acceptable behavior. I explained to them that suicide baiting actually literally leads to people's commiting suicide. I explained to them that people go to prison for suicide baiting. I explained to them that this isn't fun and games, that this is a serious thing and that I find it horrific that it's become so normalized that telling other people to kill themselves doesn't register as actually telling other people to kill themselves.

TELLING SOMEONE THAT THEY SHOULD GO KILL THEMSELVES IS SUICIDE BAITING. YOU ARE LITERALLY TELLING THEM TO COMMIT SUICIDE. THAT IS SUICIDE BAITING.

I remember back when every few months we'd get yet another headline about how yet another person was driven to suicide due to suicide baiting. I told them this.

And none of that matters because apparently I lost any moral standing the moment I showed that I cared about making sure people didn't get driven to suicide. Sure showed me. Worthless fucking cunt. Hope that one day you'll look back at this and feel so ashamed of your behavior that you feel sick for a month. I hope the feeling rots inside you. I hope you have to live with this shame for the rest of your miserable fucking life. You're 23 years old and you still act like this? Fuck you. Why don't you log off and see how well this behavior gets tolerated when you have to fact actual consequences for your actions.