#stupid shipwar

[youareatragedy]

I don’t really care about the ship drama, but I keep seeing their accounts from time to time. The Elr!el stans align so well with the Inner Circle while the Gwynr!el and Eluc!en stans align more with both the HoW people and IC (but in my observation they're not as passionate as the Elr!el people about the IC). I have to say, one of those ships is definitely more.... unpleasant at times, and I’ll tell you surprise! it’s the Elr!el side. Maybe I’m biased because I’m more critical of Feysand and the IC, but can someone explain why so many Elr!els hate Nesta so much? Is it because Nesta is friends with Gwyn? Like Rhys didn’t literally forbid Azriel from doing anything stupid with Elain? It’s just ridiculous.

I wasn’t aware Elain was so important that she could ignite this kind of pointless war, especially considering she doesn’t even have a strong storyline or much characterization yet—Oh, that’s exactly why? Self-insert? Got it.

There’s something strange about how many elr!els hate Nesta and are obsessed with Rhys and the Inner Circle. (I’m kidding—I know EXACTLY why Elr!els tend to hate Nesta. It’s exactly like I’ve said before: because Elain is in the good graces of the Inner Circle, they think they should just hate on Nesta. Rhys' mafiastancult in another form.)

[nostalgia-tblr]

anyway while i am wanking about doctor who again, i recently saw someone (forget who or where, sorry 😞) that fandom's moffat shite is awful not because there aren't some valid criticisms in there but because even if you accepted all of the (very often bad faith) complaints, the response to them is wildly disproportionate. and that's it, isn't it? one line will make him Literally The Worst Person Ever when it's not really any worse than - yes I'm about to go there - even just the other New Who showrunners have said or done. so i've always been kind of... confused? even aside from fandom almost immediately falling into a feeding frenzy of "how can we interpret everything in the worst possible way" it had felt a bit OTT from the start.

[thornetabris]

everytime i see shipwars in star wars i get reminded of two things

1) it's just like console wars. (usually) 20+ people arguing passionately on the internet over something that at the end of the day changes absolutely nothing for them and everyone else included, except squashing the joy out of something meant to be joyful;

2) that there was quite a fervorous shipwar during the OT involving leia/han and leia/luke, and we all know how that turned out hilarious don't we lol

[sillyjimjam]

also just unfollowed someone because they broke my three strikes of stupid discourse rule but it blows because their memes were so crisp

[ephemeralsx]

i love drama but the shipwars are not it.

[romancearc]

what i will not tolerate is saying polin has no chemistry, maybe friends to lovers is not your cup of tea but that does not negate how beautiful part 1 has been so far! PLUS- this is not even the end! the most dramatic declarations are yet to come!

Media literacy found dead in a ditch when it comes to Colin Bridgerton always. If I see one more comment going “I thought his flirty stuff was cringe/fake/unattractive” “Colin was out of character, it’s like they gave him a new personality” as if that wasn’t the entire point of the story they were telling I’m going to lose it.

They have multiple people in the show tell you that Colin is acting weird and out of character, and your critique is that you thought he was out of character???? If you don’t like it, good! You’re not supposed to like it!

They spell out for you through Lady Whistledown in episode ONE that Colin has gone too far with his new personality changes. They have his mother call him out for people pleasing and asking him to drop the act. They have Colin himself admit to Penelope that he’s been suppressing his feelings just to get by.

Colin is not a hard character to understand, at this point I have to believe people are pretending not to get it on purpose.

[lehdenlaulu]

"Lesmand is 100% one-sided and unrequited, actually."

No. No it's not. Any other bullshit arguments?

[olderthannetfic]

Tfw you're bi and you ship all kinds of gender combinations, and you get into a het ship and see on tumblr a fellow shipper who's still active despite the fandom being old.

A while later, you see them posting ship hate against a popular slash couple (which you like too) in your het ship's tag, where they call the slash shippers "yaoi fetishizers" and they write in the tags "shipwars are stupid".

... THEN WHY ENGAGE IN THEM YOURSELF, DUMBASS?

We could have been friends, but not with that homophobic attitude...

(I feel like a total condescending arsehole for thinking this, but... they didn't seem that clever anyway, judging from their other posts, so not really that much of a loss... Now I'm cringing at my own arrogant attitude eeeeeeeeh)

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[achaotichuman]

You know, I‘m watching the shipwar go down in the background and listen to Elain stans yelling how much Sjm loves Elain.

And I couldn’t disagree more. It’s not just Elain Sjm doesn’t care about, but all 3 sisters. You know who she actually loves? The bat boys.

From pushing Feyre, the suppose equal to Rhysand, to the background while showering Rhysand with all the love and attention, to making Cassian the victim of the „evil and mean“ Nesta, to writing Elain as this helpless damsel who runs and cries at every inconvenience (-> her fights with Nesta) while making Azriel look like this hot, mysterious guy who‘s „freaky in a good way“. Azriel was heavily involved in the crossover while the suppose main character of the next book remained in the dark with Feyre.

There‘s an old video of Sjm comparing Elain to Karen from mean girls and calling her stupid. That one interview of people asking questions about Elain.

I also recommend you to read the tog/acotar crossover and the hosab/acotar crossover. That is when Aelin and Bryce describe Rhys and Feyre and you‘ll notice the difference in how people see the High lord and High lady. Spoiler: Rhys is seen as the most beautiful person who holds authority and Feyre is the pregnant woman/ lady with paint on. Heck, acomaf reads as Rhysand the model and Feyre the cameraman. I don’t even need to mention her treatment of Nesta and the way she babies Cassian.

I‘m telling you, Sjm doesn’t like the Archeron sisters at all. They‘re just there to bring light to her actual favorites: The bat boys.

Sjm is a misogynist.

I have read the TOG crossover. I don't plan to read the rest of CC, I read the first book, I loved it aside from a few critics especially around how humans are viewed and treated, but I don't want to ruin it with reading the rest of the series, as my personal experience with SJM is that the first book is always a solid 8/10 and the rest are fuckin shit.

You are correct in your observations. Obviously, SJM is a misogynist. I don't have much to add, mostly because I'd be screaming myself hoarse from the amount of times I've been over this subject in rant posts.

I didn't know about the interview of SJM saying Elain is like Karen from Means Girls, that's a very interesting tidbit, personally I've never watched that movie, so I don't know what that means for Elain, but if someone here has watched it, please do explain to me what Karen is like, and what that says about Elain.

But overall, this is common theme in performative feminism, in the end the women and female characters only exist to uplift the males. The MMC is a #feministking and he's also hot, so everyone wants to fuck him. The FMC only exists to introduce the man, and be his aesthetic accessory. There's no depth to the MMC's actions towards woman, its all surface level talk in order to push the idea that he's #allforwomen even though he does nothing to help the women around him, or actively engages in misogynistic behaviour.

[a-court-of-moonlight-and-ire]

Made it to chapter 16 today which means Feyre and I have both had our first impressions of Rhysand's Inner Circle and ohhhhhhh boy

Its hard to pinpoint why exactly, but theres something so discomforting about watching them interact. I think the main thing is that for all their "casual-ness", theres still clearly a rigid hierarchy between them and they all seem to 'know their place' so to speak, its not at all like Lucien and Tamlin's relationship in the first book which genuinely felt like a friendship that was unburdened by their status or positions. Like, theres this one moment where Mor and Amren are like kinda bickering with each other i guess, and Feyre remarks that Mor is probably super powerful if she dares talk back against Amren (in an incredibly minor matter Im pretty sure but I already forgor ngl) and because this is the book where Feyre's perspective starts being Objectively Correct all the time, I guess that's true, I guess the only reason someone would dare voice their opinion on something to this friend group is if they were physically more powerful because otherwise you just level a fucking mountain during an argument

Anyway, Im gonna switch topics for a short moment but I promise this diversion is relavant to the point above. So, sometimes when I go into the anti-tags on here looking for criticisms or complaints of the books, I instead find anti-ship posts that are mainly just about trash-talking some ship, mostly ones relating to that whole Elucien/Elriel/Gwynriel shipwar, which I already have thoughts on but I'll save those for later. In any case, one day I stumbled upon this pretty long anti-elriel post about how the gifts Elain gives Azriel on winter solstice arent actually cute and it describes how she gave him like, herbs that help with headaches "because his friends are always giving him headaches" apparently. And then that post went on a whole rant about how insensitive that was of her and that she doesnt actually understand Azriel's dynamic with his close friends, but honestly, judging from this chapter Elain was absolutely spot on

And I usually wouldn't say this because yknow, its only one chapter and we're probably gonna get the nuances of their relationship later, but this is a book written by Sarah J Maas, her characters and their relationships are rarely particularly deep and, more importantly, her writing is incredibly unsubtle. If Azriel was in any way fond of his friends shenaningans I wouldve noticed it, because Feyre wouldve noticed it like 15 times during that whole dinner. But she didnt.

Its especially bad for Cassian and Azriel because it feels like Cassian thinks they have this great rapport but Azriel just genuinely kinda dislikes him. Not to mention that whole fucking mess with Azriel and Mor and Cassian and Mor having sex so she wouldnt get married off or whatever, good god how is every conversation between them not insanely awkward

Even beyond that, idk man, theyre all just so insufferable. I dont understand how Amren, ancient eldritch being trapped in a fae body that she is, can stand to be around them, I wouldve left them 5 centuries ago if I was her. I guess the explanation is that she finds the government position interesting but its like, youre SECOND to the most boring and annoying man on the planet only kinda ruling over a court that you dont even actually care about from everything Ive heard. Again, if I was in Amren's position I would not be hanging out in an APARTMENT in a boring ass city at the behest of a quartett of stupid bozos, I wouldve weaseled my way into being the personal advisor of Beron or some shit so I could watch the Vanserra Family Drama unfold live

There was one good thing about this discomforting dinner though, and that was how inexplicably gay Cassian was for Rhysand. He was really out there, looking at him with such love, calling him pretty twice in like two minutes being all "I knew I wanted a piece of him the moment I first saw him, the high lord's pretty son" like okay. I know what you are

[lunainfortuna]

It's so funny to me when someone says that ‘gwynriels and elriels are equally problematic/toxic’ and that ‘people weren't harassed! that's fiction!’ because you just had to be there (or have to be here) to know how this shipwar really works.

You just had to be there to remember how Azriel's bonus chapter leaked. And who exactly celebrated first. You had to be there to remember how Gwyn and Az, as a ship, were welcomed in this fandom. How people who shipped them were ‘insane’. Or how Gwyn was ‛just a maid/servant’ (I'm being sweet. We all know what she was actually called). Then, how Gwyn ‛could not be with Azriel because she couldn't have sex, you all. She was a SA victim!’. And then, all the harassment towards real people: us and content creators.

I could ask my fellow gwynriels: raise your hand if in 2021, after SF, you were harassed!

You just had to be there, now in 2022, to know how the ending of HOSAB was leaked. I mean, we all are familiar with ‛bread and roses’. Do you remember who once again celebrated first? (or celebrated at all). Because I do. Do you remember what it was like to be a gwynriel then? Or how many of us were heavily harassed? 🤷🏻 You just had to be there, weeks ago, to know how CCT3 spoilers were leaked and by whom. You just had to be there to know exactly how this fucking shipwar works.

But somehow we are as toxic as them. We cannot answer them or answer all the false information they spread because we are ‘fighting and not enjoying things’. We cannot mention Elain and Azriel or debunk their theories because oh, damn, we are fighting again! Just let us fuck the shut up and let them call us whores, hoes, stupid. Or let them say that victims of SA can't have a sexual life. Or print us and share on their pages to make fun of us. Or change canon facts and distort Sarah's every word.

Funny. It's so funny when someone also says that we all could be ‘happy’ and enjoying things together without disturbance.

Like we haven't tried already. Like, before us, there weren't Eluciens.

No one is angry that someone is shipping something different. NO ONE. We are angry by their fucking behavior.

See, if you feel comfortable by not getting involved in this shipwar, great! If you haven't been harassed, that's perfect. I'm happy for you. But do not assume that everyone is like you. Do not assume you know how this shipwar works. Do not assume how gwynriels and elriels behave without seeing it. Do not assume we are here being ‛lazy and childish’ by pointing out that they are nastier.

Believe me, any of us could leave our social media and forget about this while elriels would still be saying shit about our ship and us. And I'm not excusing bad behavior from gwynriels. I know it happens. A lot. But we aren't the same.

Go look closer. Talk to some people. Some content creators.

Dito isto, como brasileira, devo admitir que o fandom gwynriel anda bastante equivocado. Quase se assemelhando ao elriel. Por isso, peço: não sejam. Não interajam com conteúdo do ship ao lado, especialmente fanarts. Pelo amor.

[stvrpst]

The amusing part about the whole “shipwar” issue was how bummy shippers painted buddie shippers as these nasty individuals who had no business being upset or furious.

Like any other fandom, I acknowledge that there are people in this one who are utterly repulsive and say questionable things, but what bothers me about the bummies, is how they exaggerated the situation. Because, in my opinion, what I saw when the shit was going down was actually very mild.

Like I genuinely have seen worse.

Now, personally, I never liked Tommy and was never neutral about him. I've been here since the beginning of the show, and I've seen that little dick behave like a racist, misogynistic jerk. So, no, I've never cared for him and never will.

Obviously, my natural reaction to other people's displeasure with Tommy's set-up was not to be upset. Because, as I previously stated, he has treated members of the 118 with such contempt. I thought it was very understandable that people disliked him.

But the way the bummies made it seem like not liking Tommy was a forbidden sin, and then couldn’t comprehend why people viewed liking Tommy—again, a racist/misogynistic man—as a bad thing was wild.

Of course people are gonna think you’re a weirdo for liking him, SOLEY because he kissed Buck, and then dismissing his shitty behavior- behavior that is sadly a lot of women and people of colors reality that they have to deal with everyday.

I was not surprised to find out that the vast majority of people justifying Tommy’s behavior were white people, cuz they LOVEEE dismissing shit like this for no reason. As long as it’s not an issue that affects them.

It is weird and bad that you would want Buck to be with a racist and sexist man with no redeeming qualities, just to satisfy your mlm desire. But, nah, let's be furious at the ones who have legitimate reasons to despise that dick.

And then making it seem like we didn't care about bucks bisexuality because we didn't agree with the idea of that dick stick being bucks LI? We didn't want Buck with that dick because we care deeply about his bisexuality and believe he deserves to explore himself with someone other than a huge fat bitch.

Somehow they managed to twist it and accuse us of homophobia.

I have never understood, and I never will, the pressure on others to like Tommy. That, in particular, was the most perplexing thing to me, and it helped me to realize that not everyone can think rationally.

Because there are valid reasons for people to detest a character, how are you going to get upset and start saying stupid shit just because people don’t like Tommy, because he engaged in behaviors that women and people of color experience in real life?

But all they had to say was

(1). “Y’all don’t care about bucks bisexuality”

(2). “Buddies are homophobic”

(3). “Let people ship who they want!”

(4). “Let us enjoy this!”

Over some asshole too.

They actually acted as if others were jumping them for no reason. They genuinely couldn't get how jumping ship because your favorite dude kissed a racist, misogynistic man and not exhibiting ANY concern that he kissed a RACIST, MISOGYNIST MAN just because Buck got to kiss a man is fetishistic as fuck.

They acted like the victims the entire time because people refused to tolerate it. So they altered their argument to "we jumped ship because of buddies behavior," and to this day I'm still trying to figure out what behavior they claimed was so terrible other than the fact that people were calling all their asses for being so fucking odd.

They were apart of the buddie shipper fandom weeks ago. They were apart of the group that “ran Oliver off twitter.” They were apart of the group that “ran the women off the show.” Crazy how when they were apart of the fandom, they didn’t speak up about the shit they’re not pulling out of their asses.

But now that they’ve jumped ship, oh it’s a big issue now.

And it’s so funny because they constantly tell on themselves all the time😭 the jokes be writing themselves.

“I didn’t jump ship because Buck kissed a man, I jumped because he was finally happy.” But when I go on your tumblr, Bree, to go see some of the support you showed when Buck was with Taylor since he was happy then too, I don’t see it? Why is that? So you just pick and choose when bucks happy right? As long as it fits your narrative right?

“Buck and Eddie are not co parents” but when I scroll down 5 months ago, everybody and their moms was calling Chris Bucks son and Buck a dad/second father figure.

“Eddies not a good dad/person” but you have Buckleydiaz as your username?

“We didn���t like Bucks other LI because they had no chemistry or build” but when Tommy pulled up out of ass crack with zero chemistry or build up, y’all still folded.

“Eddies a bad friend!” Yet, when I scrolled down your profile, all your asses were buddie shippers regardless.

“We didn’t like Taylor because she was bad.” Yet, tommy has treated members of the 118 like shit just like Taylor, in fact, maybe even worse. They both have treated members on the 118 horribly, interesting how they’re only excusing one of them tho. I wonder why.

They’re a bunch of losers I swear, and the vast majority of them are a bunch of old hags beefing with minors/young adults online over a damn fictional ship. Shits embarrassing. (No offense to all the good older people in the fandom, ily<3)

That weirdo Bree literally has kids and she’s out here triflin over a ship and going at it with literal teenagers. Get your shit together and maybe start putting food on your kids table because I know they’re hungry. you’re a whole grown ass messing with teens/young adults whose frontal lobes aren’t even fully developed while your kids are starving at home.

They would be so much more bearable if they literally didn’t try to dismantle every single dynamic between Buck and Eddie every single day.

And for no reason at all too. They want bucktommy endgame because they’re a bunch of fetishistic weirdos, and we want buddie for Actual LOGICAL reasons that makes sense and has substance.

Not only that, let’s not forget how

(1.) when Ryan Guzman did that podcast, talking about is mental health and past suicidal thoughts, a bunch of them were in the comments saying they wished he would’ve went through with killing himself.

You don’t have to be a fan of Ryan, and it’s 100% understandable if you’re not, but to fucking wish death upon a real living fucking person is disgusting, and suicide at that.

(2.) they decided to justify Tommy’s behavior by calling us ableist and claiming he’s autistic. I cannot even put into words how weird and nasty that is. Like you actually have to be dumb as fuck to go that low and justify an assholes obvious disinterest and behavior and double it down to “autism.”

Even if he was autistic—which he’s not—that doesn’t justify anything? You can be autistic and still be racist and misogynistic. That’s the shit y’all love to pull. The first time, they said Tommy’s behavior was justified because he was a closeted gay. When they realized people weren’t falling for that shit, they tried to switch it over and call us ableist and claim he was autistic.

It’s actually funny cuz it’s the complete opposite, cuz to associate shitty behavior to be autistic is so unbelievably ignorant.

(3.) They decided to contact and invade Tim’s privacy multiple times to the point Tim had to make it known that he only responds to not be rude.

(4.) They started bullying Oliver stark for not posting about bucktommy to the point that Oliver ended up allegedly blocking someone who asked why he wasn’t talking about it. (Which proves they were the mfs who ran Oliver off twitter)

(5.) They started to actually ship Lou and Oliver, two real life people.

(6.) They told people not to participate or donate to a charity event that was helping the people in Gaza just because one the mods in the server didn’t like bucktommy.

(7.) They thought it was okay to speak on Ryan and his characters identity claiming he was white and doubling him down to just that, while trying to erase his Mexican identity saying he wasn’t Mexican(he is.)

(8.) They started harassing journalists because they only mainly talked about buddie when they have stated multiple times that they’re buddie shippers, always have been even before tommy showed up and Oliver and Ryan have no issues discussing buddie anyways.

(9.) Completely dismissed the idea of having an openly queer MEXICAN character for other Latino/hispanic people to relate to because it would get in the way of their ship.

(10.) Called fans/stans of Eddie Diaz—a main Mexican character— “beanstalks.”

I’m still so shocked about this one because it was so unbelievably racist, and the person who came up with it is disgusting.

I’m sorry to any Mexican fans who had to witness that.

(If you’re confused, just to clarify, there is a slur used against Mexicans that starts with bean and ends with an er. Since Eddie is Mexican, they thought it would be funny to give Eddie fans an extremely racist under-toned nickname, hence “beanstalks” :/ )

(11.) They love to weaponize Ryan’s past actions as a way to deflect from the fact that Lous ass is just as fucking bad, but in reality don’t actually give a shit about what Ryan did or said and are only bringing it up to use Ryan’s past shitty behavior to deflect Lous shitty ass. Which is literally insane and stupid.

The list goes on. Yet buddie shippers are the bad ones, okay.

[nikethestatue]

I feel like sjm has really lost a lot of the fandom at this point. Not that it matters, she’s popular enough without the fandom. But most all my friends don’t care anymore. I think there have always been dry periods since acosf but people came back for hosab for the crossover and for hofas. But now so long has passed without a hint of acotar news and I really think BB has let it be pushed too far. Maybe it is the printing change that’s caused no news, but I am not so sure. I’m just like, where is the damn book announcement already???

A lot of people expect huge outcry when the next book is announced but I honestly think people aren’t as invested as before. You’ll have a small segment that will be upset and a segment that will cheer but I don’t think it’s going to have the insanity that was expected.

If she really was still drafting in April, I think the book could still be done and printed before 2026 but I wonder if BB would decide to push it to early 2026 anyway.

Yeah, I was talking to a mutual just last night, and we felt the same--yes, she will sell, but I wonder if in some ways, the train's left the station for her?

We started to talk about Azriel specifically, and how she really was the OG creator of the 'mysterious winged shadow man' in Azriel. And how, after ACOSF, and the bonus chapter, the interest in him was RABID. Like people were utterly insane for him.

And instead of capitalizing on this wild adulation for him, she and BB completely dropped the ball.

It's really bizarre and I think they'll look back at this time in 10-15 years and say, fuuuuuuckkkk, did we fuck this one up.

Because now, every mediocre writer and their cousin have a shadow daddy in their lame romantasy books. And there is nothing original about the concept anymore. In fact, there are too many now.

And SJM, who decided to play the stupid shipwar game, instead of striking the iron when it was hot, absolutely pissed in her own pocket. Like yeah, people will read the book, sure, but the novelty, the anticipation, the mental agitation is all gone now. And for what? Gwynriel vs Elriel?

Dont know who is making decisions or doing the marketing, but it's like when Yahoo didn't want to buy YouTube, but instead bought Tumblr, and Google swept in and bought YouTube.

It's kinda like that.

Well, I don't know. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

[olenvasynyt]

🎁🎀 You have been selected to play the exclusive get to know your moots game! Name the top 3 most memorable experiences that have happened this year, and paste this into 5 other blog's to spread the love! 🎁🎀

Oooh this is fun!

I would say being added to my friend's Elucien groupchat was definitely the best thing that happened to me this year in this fanbase. Everyone is so sweet and caring and we put our love for Elucien first, which has been really important to me because the drama in this fanbase is exhausting. One thing that is really important to remember and is something I learned: form friendships based on what you both enjoy, not what you both hate. I cannot make mutuals based on the shipwars anymore because it just ends up with us ranting and getting mad together all the time. But forming friendships because you like the same characters? Because you're both writers or artists and you are both so obsessed with a certain ship? That's how to do it. And that's why this group is so awesome. You know who you are and I love you guys 💕

Starting to put my Lucien backstory fic A Court of Embers and Sunlight out on Ao3! I have been working on it for two years and I got some really great people to help encourage me to finally start putting chapters out! People who followed me on tiktok really helped me get motivated, and specific shoutout to @zenkindoflove and @little-fierling who were kind and betaread the first few chapters! I'm a big, anxious, perfectionist baby so I need to remember that it's a fanfic, it's just for fun and it doesn't have to be perfect 😂💕 I got 10 chapters out and I have received so many kind comments and anons and DMs and it's been so nice. This has also been the year where I have put out fanfics in general which has been really nice too.

Honestly, Elain Gate was fucking hilarious. I know I was just talking about how you should not solely focus on drama and shipwars but Elain Gate was honestly like the old 2014 tumblr days for me where stupid shit happened and we all made fun of it. Tamlin stans are the best haha. It was true fanbase behavior (affectionate). And I read some good Tamberlain fics too, which I did not expect to ever see😂

[thehighladywrites]

elriel or gwynriel

anon, i’m gonna be so real rn. i honestly couldn’t care less. I can’t find it in me to give a SHIT

like these shipwars have been doing too much and it’s annoying. Like why is Elain reduced to a love interest? Why is Gwyn reduced to one? Why does Azriel have to end up with anyone? The man needs THERAPY he doesn’t need women.

The man needs to be alone, Elain’s book shouldn’t be a love triangle and ‘omg who is she gonna choose’ IT’S HER BOOK???? MAYBE IT’S ABOUT HER POWERS OR TRAVELING OR IDK HER FRIENDS NUALA AND CERRIDWEN?

maybe they all need to have a huge orgy and be done with it😒 elain lucien az and gwyn need to team up and fuck tbh, end this stupid war

maybe they just need to tag team me? I love Elain and I should be between her legs rn but here we are😒

[lotus-pear]

kunichuuzai is Peak Chaos and 100% solves the majority of fandom shipwars actually... please hear me out on them THEY'RE SO VERSATILE

i don’t normally do poly ships but they’re actually such a god tier dynamic like can you imagine kuni and chuuya teaming up to shit on dazai and laugh at him but at the end of the day they both pat his head and kiss him and be like “ur stupid asf but that’s why we love you” anyway knchz vanquishes any and all arguments regarding the bsd ship war bc they r just built different