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snailfen · 2 years ago
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(regarding the five pebbles and seven red suns ship) i feel like when it comes to the iterators either interpretation could be valid?? like some people interpret them as friends, some interpret them as family
like, lttm says "one of [pebble's] friends" when talking about suns, and then suns themselves says (paraphrasing a bit) "as a long time friend" on the pearl they send to him
in regards to the ancients calling themselves the iterators parents, i always felt like it was akin to the way some religious people say that everyone is a children of [insert god here] or something, like a metaphor
sorry for the anon jumpscare i'm a bit nervous, the last thing i want is to be called a pr/shitter- i just personally have always interpreted them as friends
no no youre good cus im not looking to cause shit myself! im just confused. if anything i was nervous to ask anything cus ive heard some people in the rw discord are quick to dispute this whenever its brought up about shipping the two and as someone whos been around fandom for a long time thats a preeeetty bad sign.
also same here abt seeing suns and pebs as just friends, its just that now that ive returned to rw a few years later and looked into the lore pearls again that i think its implied that iterators would see eachother as somewhat related perhaps?
i didnt think about the iterators being considered like "children of (godlike figure)" but in hindsight, thats also a possibility. In the lore pearl that this is brought up they also say that five pebbles is "their gift to the world" or something like that, and that seems to fit with that theme as well...
and yeah, when it comes to all forms of art, no interpretation is truly wrong. i think the main point that bothers me aside from the possibly siblings stuff is i feel like this isnt what people should be getting out of the iterators plotline? like shipping is fun. it is for fun. im not gonna go after people for that! but i also feel like people should be taking a step back and appreciating the characters for what they are and not for what they could be. if that makes sense?
about your second point, i have something to say about that but its MAJOR downpour spoilers, specifically for the rivulet and the spearmaster campaigns so im just gonna put it under a readmore
in the rivulets campaign, when asking the rivulet to do one last thing for him, pebbles calls moon "an old friend" himself (in fact thats what the achievement for finishing rivulet is called). moon very explicitly sees pebbles as a younger brother and expresses this at the end of the campaign. and in the spearmasters campaign theres those satellite things that show iterator logs when touched, and we get to see 2 iterators (from what i assume to be a neighboring group) gossiping about pebs, one of them brings up the fact that pebs was built near moon and the other asks "Isn't she his senior enough to the point where she calls herself 'Big Sis Moon'?". Its much more explicit that moon views her group as her younger siblings but pebs still calls her an old friend of his regardless!
last of all, someone said this in the tags of my post but looking at the lore pearl convo between pebbles and suns as well as the one between suns and wind really gives suns the impression of an older sibling, at least it does to me. also, back to those satellites in the spearmasters campaign, suns says that pebbles always looked up to them and they never took that lightly. srs is someone pebbles considers close because he looks up to him!
Their dynamic is something interesting to me now bc of downpour and im all about bullshitting and reading into things a little bit more for ships, but looking at SRS and FP.... how do i describe it. i dont really feel like theres SPACE for shipping in this case? like it wouldnt be necessarily invalid but its kinda missing the Point of the spearmasters campaign i feel. infact i feel like this is the only reason people see seven red suns as male despite none of the other iterators having specified genders (unless the dlc confirmed a gender for suns, then i missed that). anyways this last paragraph is just me rambling oops
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kryptid-kat · 2 years ago
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We should normalize being the average artist who never really goes viral and is happy in their lane creating for their own sake (be it commissions, or art for themselves).
The clout chaser mentality of all social media sites rotted our brain where we can't find value in our work unless it has a big number besides it.
Create for yourself, not to please some elusive algorithm that changes on a whim and pushes you back to square one.
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tariah23 · 10 months ago
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I rly don’t see how ppl be 20+ shipping kids anymore tbh… like, it’s so rampant and I don’t see the appeal to it anymore being as tho I’m in my late 20’s.
#I’m grown….. it always baffles me to see it like man I don’t care I don’t find joy in it anymore since I’m not a teenager#I just look at them and think they’re like my fake son… daughter nephew niece whatever lol#give me the struggling and mentally fucked up 20+ year old give me those middle age bitches man if I’m going to like a ship now anyway#like i don’t care about the romance between kids man it sucks that this is such a huge thing in most fandom spaces#not that I participate in said spaces since ppl are annoying and embarrassing#also very nasty#sns is diff tho like that’s a whole other thing 🪽#sns is just a classic it’s legendary it transcends space and time it it-#I’m so glad that jjk is full of adults tho lmfaoo#one of Gege’s only W’s… especially impressive for a shounen#i like jjk outside of the goiji pairings too like I just genuinely enjoy it despite how awful it is now lol#again#I do think that ppl need to learn how to become more comfortable with enjoying media outside of shipping tho#like there’s nothing wrong with it obviously but I’m talking more like how tons of ppl only get into a new series for the sole purpose#of shipping instead of engaging with said media and the story that it’s trying to tell…#this is why fanon and wild insane hc’s usually get out of control too to the point where those who might be interested in checking out#a series might be deterred because they don’t even know what the show is about because the only stuff that ppl see about the thing is ship#stuff and like discourse#and the behavior of the fans…#these ppl be 30+ arguing with teenagers man it’s crazy to me#I just think there needs to be a balance lol#like still go crazy. Have fun and all but you get it#but anyway. with all that being said! Goiji stays winning in my heart 🚶🏾‍♀️#rambling
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vladdyissues · 6 months ago
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If only everyone had the same mindset (as in "You do you, don't bother me and I won't bother you"), something as silly as ship discourse wouldn't exist. It's unfortunate that there will always be people who think of themselves as having higher moral grounds over fictional matters. I find it ironic, considering it's mostly antis who send death threats to normal fans.
I admire your courage, but I also worry that those antis might falsely report you and others in the same boat (or, God forbid, send death threats) just for the sake of being petty. Here's hoping they have more decorum. Stay safe, will you? I'm eagerly looking forward to your next creation. Have a nice day/night!
Thank you, anon. In my experience, most people in fandom—I'd say around 75-85%, depending on the media—abide by the precept of Live and Let Live, especially in matters concerting fiction. The ones turning fandom into a battleground are the minority. A loud, misinformed minority who use provocative language and make sensational, bogus claims, which draws a lot of attention and leaves outsiders with the impression that the fandom in question is a war zone, when it truly isn't.
Speaking broadly, the DP fandom is wonderful, full of some really awesome, funny, kind, talented people. I'm really glad to be a part of it :)
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oatmealcrisp-freak · 11 days ago
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if i wasnt so afraid of beating the dead horse that is my attention span, which tumblr has already taken out back and shot, i'd be all over that red note app thing. every screenshot i've seen which, granted, curated, has made me laugh
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novadreii · 7 months ago
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marshmellowtea · 2 days ago
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i need to make my time on tumblr more of a fandom time and less of a political/discoursey time again. yes i have strong opinions and yes it can be good to see other perspectives on Serious Topics sometimes but you neeeeed boundaries about when you want to engage with Serious Topics and constantly coming across them is not helping my gotdamn mental health
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leori-the-unlearned · 29 days ago
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the way digimon does conflict/drama between two characters who should be or are close: chef’s kiss <3
the way sonic idw handles creating conflict/drama between two characters who should be or are close: *wilting flower*
#keyword: adding#in digimon conflicts come about as a result of independent viewpoint differences#ie takuya vs kouji. taichi vs yamato#or (since i just watched 02:the beginning) lui and ukkomon’s conflict is SO GOOD#it BUILDS to something. lui and ukkomon’s disagreement builds up to: they need to communicate. they both come from a good-faith angle#ukkomon so desperately wanted to make lui happy and failed to look closer to see what WOULD - and lui didn’t know how to express#what he actually wanted to ukkomon. or try to reach out to ukkomon in turn instead of basking in his life finally going ‘right’#but then not as much in idw gives me that good feeling of ‘ahhh they built to this and it is so nice’#or when conflict is created it isn’t because despite best efforts people clash and have to work together#it’s when someone does a stupid and someone else has to pick it up#it means a lot when you see kouji driven to press takuya to the wall and see them shout at each other#because they both have to realize that with words they will never convince the other of their viewpoint.#even though they both think the way the other looks at things will get the group killed#and of course it makes sense that the group would follow takuya. he’s their heart. their core#takuya’s the reason tomoki stayed in the digital world and junpei and izumi find confidence being there because he’s there rallying them#and in this case that good trait winds up being wrong. he gets everyone captured by the enemy and thinks theyre all better off if he wasn’t#part of the group from the start. but THAT isn’t true either - he just needs a BALANCE of his excellent helpful determination and willpower#and seeing things as they are and not as he believes them to be - more like kouji#he WAS wrong but not for HAVING the traits he had - for leaning too much on them#or (also going to a media im currently engaging in) sundered star. things go bad between people a LOT but it’s not frustrating.#it’s SATISFYING/ENGAGING seeing feferi leave eridan and watching eridan go insane and give in to the horrorterrors. of course it couldnt-#-go any other way for them. eridan wouldnt change until he realized he could lose feferi and feferi wouldnt bring him any real consequences#-to make him consider that until she was leaving and would never come back. and it was never her fault that leaving eridan lead to-#-catastrophe and devastation. it just happened as a consequence anyway#anyways i guess. if i see the characters do their best and things still fall apart it’s better than#seeing an idiot plot or characters written to be worse than they were to make conflict happen#with takuya he wasn’t suddenly bad or misjudging everything. he just didnt have to deal with negative consequences for misjudging before-#-because they hadnt met someone like duskmon that they COULDNT eventually beat before. even gigasmon who wrecked them all at first-#-was beaten once they had beast spirits and were on equal footing. so takuya assumes the same for duskmon without realizing that#they arent on the same level. so the issue didnt come from nowhere - it just comes to a head now
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hussyknee · 1 year ago
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So. Anyone else feeling a little unhinged rn?
#I've had to double my anti depressants#good news is that it's working#bad news is I still can't stay off social media#I saw another dead baby and this time just felt glad she didn't have to suffer this hell anymore#I have never wanted to believe in God more#I'm really glad they do#they believe their children are with God with all their hearts and I've started to imagine that's true too#holding onto their faith when I have none because otherwise I'd go insane#hyperfixating on Gaza for 6 wks while my hyperempathy went utterly haywire#has my brain dead convinced I'm Arab or something#I feel very stupid and guilty about it#like what right have I to claim this grief#and yet it's still easier to focus on than what's going on in my own country#ever since the protests fell apart last year and everything we had such hope for got flushed down the toilet#I just completely shut down#couldn't stand re-engaging with the world anymore#nearly ran out of reasons to keep going entirely this year#then when Gaza happened#I couldn't do anything but watch and learn and disseminate info like my life depended on it#just like with the SL protests#but it galvanized me the same way#I feel like it's breaking me down the same way too#I see all these massive protests and people chaining themselves and lying on the roads and getting thrown around by cops#I always felt that white and Western people could never truly feel our pain and it's amazing to see I was wrong#I feel so much love and awe and gratitude for them#but hope keeps getting dimmer and I'm slipping into despair again#exactly like with the SL protests#I don't want to go through all that betrayal and heartbreak and depression again#nobody that's directly impacted by this knows I exist and all the terrible pain I carry doesn't make a damn bit of difference#so I'm just spiralling alone in my head to no purpose lol
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pinkysberg · 2 years ago
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i want to compile a list of the most bizarre statements and conflict ive seen in the red dead community on the cursed clock app. bc it's hell and i need someone to understand pls.
it is ridiculous to be sad about rdr2 as arthur morgan is a fictional character.
because it is 1899, and the concept of mental illness and trauma is unexplored, traumatizing events (i.e. the storm and ship wreck following the bank mission) would not have impact on the psychological health of characters.
Real Quote: so what? because he could have drowned and died it's trauma all of the sudden?
characters like charles smith or sadie adler are "trying to be the main character" because they are integral to the plot of the game. (this apparently has nothing to do with the fact they are not white men. anyways.)
shipping jovier is incestuous ?
if you think about it micah was actually a good guy because he ended the van der linde gang (ignore the part where he starts his own gang that's way worse and then re-teams up with dutch later)
all the characters are straight because it's 1899 and they're all cowboys (a famously heterosexual profession, of course)
arthur morgan cannot be bisexual because he had a son and has had only "female romantic partners". (unsure what their working definition for bisexual is)
milton is invincible to criticism because he "is just doing his job" (this is obviously not a core criticism of the red dead redemption franchise)
for some reason bill is a likeable and defensible character while javier is satan's reincarnate and one might argue, based on how he's discussed, is the main antagonist of RDR1. wonder what that's about.
it is feminine to change arthur's appearance in literally any capacity. (giving him any hair cut is a bastardization of his character)
discussing headcanons - or having them at all, period - is disrespectful to the creators of the source material. (their personal opinions and feelings, however, aren't headcanons, they're just objectively true statements about the game)
this is everything i could think of off the top of my head without even looking. its incessant.
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istherewifiinhell · 4 months ago
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The fucking arcane sciences needed inorder to balance all needs for sleep. Insane. Unfair. Cruel.
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unexpectedbrickattack · 2 years ago
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#chattin#nothin crazy just thinking about thay wel//come home post thats been circulating#its so scary#its why i really DONT participate in fandom like that; its why i stay away from aus and oc content#bc sometimes its so far removed from the actual content that youve basically made an entirely new show/game/etc#and like obv thats not bad or evil or what have u#i make aus and ocs for basically everything i watch and play#im doing it w pt right now!#but i feel like#the main issue was that the people who got ahold of the website were people who wanted views#and poked and prodded until they could find something to make a video about#and instead of like#following the creator and their socials; people just jumped on the bandwagon#like the obsession w unreality games (mandela catalog/backrooms/etc) and child mascot horror games#means that some people will look at Cute Looking Things that have very little content or descriptions#and assume its horror related#and that its Content Creator stuff As Usual#and like#will make all of these conclusions without engaging in the original media#if people checked the creators socials for 10 seconds im sure they wouldve found exactly whats been circulating rn#that it was just a fun project ! thats their baby!#and people jumped into a fabricated fandom FIRST instead of engaging in the media#like. i like pt. i LOVE it. i think the game is fun and solid with wonderful music and controls and cute litte bits of characterization for-#-what would otherwise be shallow puppets. and we know this becase we played and watched it! people went through the trouble of finding old-#-dev builds and old concept art and old creator messages (for better of for worse lmfao)#just. i interact with fandom as far as i would like someone to treat my own properties#enjoy what i have to put out there; and take it from there#dont just piggyback off of what fandom wants to see.#just. waugh. 🥺🥺 i feel so bad for that artist. a passion project turned miserable#bc people played with their babies like little dolls and didnt even want to like. know what these babies meant to their creator
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akkivee · 9 months ago
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hi! i have a question about something that struck me a little while ago. i think i have a little problem with the burnout towards hypmic. the thing is i really love this fandom and I don't want to leave it behind... I KNOW YOU'RE NOT A THERAPIST AND I SHOULDN'T ASK REGULAR PEOPLE I DON'T EVEN ACQUAINTED WITH TO DEAL WITH MY PROBLEMS but i think you'd have some advices as someone who's been into hypmic for quite a long time
thank in advance<3
i wish i had more useful advice other than i’m too tired about everything else to even consider being burnt out by hypmic but that is kinda how it is lol 😓
but i revisit the series like, a fair amount!!! sometimes i have a point i’m thinking about and have to remind myself of the specifics which tends to have me jumping from chapter to chapter or media to media to try to remember where tf i read/saw that moment from lmao. and like 40% of the time i find something new to muse about it’s fun lol
i also don’t just stick to hypmic believe it or not lmao like bc i want to be here, i don’t fandom hop the way i do when i don’t have a fandom home but i do enjoy other series and picking apart my fav characters there, maybe not to the extent i do with kuukou lol but enough!!!! even when i wasn’t working as much and had more free time, i’d always be reading other stuff
i’m not being very useful gomen lol 🙇‍♀️
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space-feminist · 11 months ago
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it's been fascinating to reach the age where companies are starting to remake things from my childhood as nostalgia-bait. i'm seeing the whole phenomenon from a side i haven't before.
i think the shitty remake stems from a very genuine shift that happens in people's lives when they settle into adulthood (late 20s/early 30s) and start to become disconnected from mainstream pop culture and trends. that's often a good thing - it's a sign of maturity to know your own taste and build your life around that instead of chasing what you're told to want - HOWEVER if you didn't use being young and trendy to explore and develop your own taste, your "taste" may stagnate in what was trendy when you were 20 and now you don't know if you genuinely like it or if it just feels familiar. this, in turn, leads to:
resentment of other generations' trendy items bc you want to believe your "taste" is simply what's Normal and not also a product of its time. you're not uncool and out of date it's the children who are wrong
an unwillingness to understand when something may have aged poorly, where you keep wearing that threadbare shirt or watching that racist show because that's what you've always done and what people around you did and you didn't think about your decision any harder than that
still having the urge to buy and consume new things in order to fit in (no sense of self and personal taste) but also being afraid to explore anything new (craving familiarity and what you grew up with as Normal)
and point #3 is the toxic combo that produces corporate nostalgia-bait. the new but not actually new. safe and familiar but still Trending and Mainstream. they changed it but not in any meaningful interesting way bc doing that might threaten people's sense of comfort
i feel like i could've diagnosed this phenomenon as a young person, but the insight of hitting this age is that there's no clear line between someone who's gone through this shift in a healthy way and someone who hasn't. the pressures of consumerism and conformity don't just let up when you reach a certain age. you can do all the work to find your personal taste and not need The Newest Thing and you're still gonna be bombarded with ads, except this time the ads are trying to convince you that buying this New Thing is the way to show your love for the old thing and will make you feel just as comforted and it's totally aligned with your personal taste and the taste of people like you. sure, the Ideal consumer is the person who only likes what they like because it's popular and isn't thinking about it hard but they're ALSO trying to market to everyone who likes that thing genuinely. and being bombarded with the general pressure to participate in consumerism is not something you can shake so easily.
what i'm saying is that you can't assume you're immune to this. you think you're being an individual and that you like that thing that came out in your youth bc it's good not just because of nostalgia and you may even be right but that doesn't mean they won't try to get ya. stay on your toes my friends
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chushanye · 11 months ago
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tumblr is like
*sees the dumbest most repeatative fandom discourse that has escalated so much that neither side is actually engaging with each other and they're all taking the absolute worst interpretation of what the other is saying creating a cycle of bad-faith arguments* jesus fucking lord. let me log o-
*sees the most beutiful delicious wonderful soul reviving in character piece of fanart ever drawn* ☺️
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blyszczopies · 1 year ago
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like also i dont think that would work in places like tumblr where people make a lot of shitposts and overall post silly stuff thats not really, like, worth keeping forever. yes i will reblog that post but also i wouldnt lose anything if i havent seen it. idk
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