#stabbing as a metaphor for gay sex

[yuleshootureye]

Interesting parallels between Billy and Stu stabbing each other and the Our Flag Means Death "nonfatal stabbings as a sexual euphemism". Like, obviously Ed and Stede are supposed to be having a moment™ and it's played for comedy, versus Billy and Stu trying to get away with Murderfest '96, but still. Queer themes in Scream indeed.

[dykeofmisfortune]

anyone else thinking abt how tragic it is to see a friendship so colored by romance. or is it just me and oscar wilde up here.

[annabelle--cane]

sure thing! so, it's when you get stabbed, but gayly. happened to my good friends will graham and jonanthan "the archivist" sims.

asexuality is word that describes an orientation, not a set of behaviors, ace people can do all kinds of sexual behaviors and still be asexual. some ace people have sex, some don't. some ace people kiss, some don't. some ace people masturbate, some don't. some ace people get homoerotically stabbed, some don't. it's as easy as that to understand.

[shesarealphony]

any appalachian lesbians want a gf who loves horror but WILL pray throughout possession movies im your man

[johntorrington]

imagine getting stabbed to death in a way that’s metaphorically gay sex and still dying a virgin. this happened to my buddy john irving.

[stringynut]

the homoeroticism of goncharov is quite striking in its detail and creativity and might i add telling in retrospect of scorsese's later work. the relationship he manages to create in the strong heteronormative relationship should be seen as a red herring when you notice the gestures, mannerisms and touch between andrey and goncharov relative to the gestures, mannerisms and touch shared between goncharov and and andrea. i have read some dismiss the sexual tension during the train scene where they are changing each others clothes because that's just what men do when they are alone and bloody from all the stabbing. let's be honest with each other yes goncharov and andrey stabbed each other because they both want to have sex

this type of relationship was first really shown broadly in brokeback mountain and i think scorsese should be given the kudos for allowing this type of relastionship to exist during the time it was released. while the relationship would be seen as queer baiting by todays standards scorsese took this daring approach despite the backlash publically and maybe even privately. it's especially poignant because scorsese doesn't replicate it afterwards in his later work

[cabeswaterdrowned]

@sergeantpixie very important additions. and a good chance to propaganda for my followers to read Megan Abbott as always

[ghostdrinkssoup]

tfw you’re a closeted gay man but you’re trapped in a show where cannibalism is a metaphor for gay sex (among other things) and you’re too afraid to stare into the abyss because you know goddamn well the abyss stares back so you ignore all your demons and bloodlust and the hot psychiatrist that keeps subtly suggesting that murder is the new black and pretend to be so normal that you end up watching the love of your life (aforementioned hot psychiatrist) turn himself in because he can’t bear to live without you and to cope with that you marry the hottest single mum near you because let’s be honest you’re too far gone to download grindr or pick up a knife and start stabbing people now so you just sit yourself down and enjoy awful peaceful domesticity for the next three years and quietly scream

[transsimmonss]

beating and stabbing the shit out of each other in the back of a car as a metaphor for gay sex.

[charlesdesvoeux]

john irving should've been staring uncomfortably at a painting of saint sebastian in art class but instead he got stabbed to death in the arctic in a way that was metaphorically gay sex :-(

[burningclocks]

Lesbian date ideas:

Ghost hunting for eight hours

Start a community garden

Tell eachother your deepest fears and darkest thoughts

Swordfight at dawn

Exorcise a demon

Get a cat

Hold a knife to each other's throats

Get another cat

Open your third eye and achieve godhood

Build a cottage in the woods

Become a local folk tale

Solve the mystery of your mothers disappearance

Swim in a lake and then come out mysteriously different as if you've been fundamentally changed or entirely replaced

Accidentally kill a man

Bathe in his blood (totally by accident tho)

Intentionally kill a man

Burn down a church and kiss in the ashes

Start a cult

Make out in an abandoned building

Go through the five stages of grief

Invent more stages of grief

Steal a bus

Get yet another cat

Go to a bookstore

Destroy a corporation

Overthrow the government

Learn to time travel

Visit Sappho of Lesbos, worship at her feet

Exist in Rome for a day

Exist in the Victorian era for a day, disappear mysteriously from the ball

Start a conspiracy

Knit the fabric of your souls together

Stab Julius Caesar

Steal from the British Museum

Steal the Mona Lisa

Go back in time and kiss Mona Lisa

Learn the way of the sword

Be present at every major historical event

Exist in front of HP Lovecraft and watch as he loses his shit

Add a gay sex scene to every HP Lovecraft book

Do piracy

Rule over all pirates

Kiss in front of a shocked audience of Victorian people

Night at the Museum

Just the plot of Night at the Museum

Swim in the moonlight

Get another cat

Lead the lesbian revolution

Charge into battle

Slaughter your enemies alongside your wonderful beautiful amazing wife

Kiss passionately surrounded by corpses

Have highly symbolic and metaphorical gay sex

Love eachother in every universe as every couple to ever live

Breed flowers to be new beautiful and bizarre colors

Become happy

Achieve enlightenment

Ascend to a high plane of being

Put flowers in each other's hair

Get coffee

Become villains

End a bloodline

Kill eachother in a really homoerotic way

Experience catharsis

Sleep in each other's arms each night

Wake up next to eachother every morning rain or shine

Make breakfast and coffee for each other

Hold eachother closer when you have nightmares and are plagued by visions

Be old and be healed

Have the sun glow brighter and the flowers bloom in more colors

Love each other so much it changes the narrative

Love each other so much it changes the universe

Wait with each other. Wait for the next thing to come your way and then when that's over wait together again. Except it's not waiting. Imagine you cannot wait to wait with each other. Watching and waiting as the world comes at you

Cry

[maxanor]

Watched up until ep 9 so here are more of my abbreviated thoughts, don't want to make this ask too long but many thoughts head never empty about this show and my babygirls.

Ep 5: god what an episode, the official and final break up of my best girls. The scene where Alicent walks into the banquet in that green dress: lifechanging, actual chills, that scene is sooo good and other people don't seem to care about it as much as I do from what I saw online but like that scene is insane, I want to live inside of it; the meaning of the colours, the declaration of war, THE MUSIC (!!)

Ep 6: the shift to the older actors oooh we're here, they're both so excellent and just the tension in this episode, like that's sexual the small council scene uuhm Alicent babes look away and Rhaenyra stop touching that ball there is a touch starved lesbian across from you have some decorum (also Alicent was at her most bitchy (affectionate) this episode and I kind of lived for it)

Ep 7: THE episode. Now why did I have to see that Dae/myra sex scene?? Controversial opinion: the knife scene was more sexual than the Dae/myra sex scene, something something stabbing as a metaphor for gay sex, stabbing your homoerotic situationship after breaking up 10 years ago something something. WHERE IS DUTY WHERE IS SACRIFICE - Olivia that entire scene, yeah I was captivated (also Otto being proud, oh the toxic generational abuse continues yes tragedy)

Ep 8: Viserys losing an eye after not giving a shit Aemond lost an eye and not doing anything, oh I call that poetic justice. Rhaenicent making soft eyes at each other oh the gays are at it again, who let them out? The children continuing their fighting because of the damage their mothers already did, oh the generational conflict continues, cannot bury the hatchet when you have sown hate for years

Ep 9: no one seems to agree online from what I saw, but honestly maybe one of my favourite episodes of the season, maybe that is because I adore Alicent and this episode was all about her in my opinion. The scene between Rhaenys and Alicent, loved that, they could not have played that scene any gayer but maybe that's just me. Otto calling Alicent out about her feelings surrounding Rhaenyra, like at this point the closet is glass sweetie. "Childhood companion", the subtext is there if they ever make it maintext I will sob.

Question: I know the actors have discussed the queer subtext but have any of the writers or directors ever hinted at it as well? It can't be all coincidental right?

Anyways this got way way too long, my bad🩵 going to watch ep 10 soon, wish me luck🫡

making popcorn to answer this ask mwahahaha 🍿

ep5 – god this episode is heartbreaking, emily carey's acting is just incredible i love her so much!! this was actually the first episode i watched live and i know people were freaking out about it, but it does seem to get overlooked in light of everything that comes next

ep6 – EMMA AND OLIVIA 🫶 both their introductions are incredible and i'm forever thankful they were cast <3 the small council scene is insane 😵‍💫

ep7 – soooo true this is THEEE episode!!! although ofc every time i think of this episode i redact the dae/myra sex scene bc poor rhaenyra has been thru so much she doesnt need that as well!! also your opinion is not controversial, rhaenicent absolutely have more chemistry, both emma and olivia's performances in that scene are insane god i love them (bonus: the script from the scene)

ep8 – i loveeeee this episode sooo much, their children are so poisoned against each other but alicent and rhaenyra cannot help but want to mend their relationship like they yearn for each other so deeply they'll never be free!!!! also aemond is my best friend in this episode i love him <3

ep9 – i love this episode too!!! i don't necessarily subscribe to any "team" but the targtowers are just much more interesting than all of the team black characters (excluding rhaenyra) and i love seeing the inner-workings of the green council. also aegon's coronation scene is so incredible oh tgc the actor you are!!! and "you imbecile" being unscripted like oh that shit is insane 😵‍💫

to answer your question about the writers/directors supporting rhaenicent, yes they do! i'll put some quotes under the cut <3

"they are good friends with this potential romantic entanglement from earlier on that has always been a big thing for that, that i thought it was an essential component  of why they are such close friends. it seems like it’s a kind of unrequited love…rhaenyra has this deep longing for her best friend" – miguel sapochnik (co-showrunner involved in s1, he's not going to be involved in s2 due to some internal drama lmao)

"the underlying theme is that rhaenyra is actually in love with alicent. with milly as young rhaenyra, it was very much about seeing how she experiences this constant series of small rejections from alicent" – miguel sapochnik

"alicent is feeling very alone. so when rhaenyra enters, that’s what she wants. she wants the love in her life, and it’s a bit of a love story in a way, of these two women" – geeta patel (directed 1x08)

"[rhaenyra and alicent] are in my mind a divorced couple. they were in love as friends, and now they are apart" – geeta patel

"these two young women who were friends as girls, who grew up deeply loving each other...and then how they were forced into this situation by the pressures put on them by the aristocracy and by the patriarchy, by these ancient political constructs around them" – ryan condal (main showrunner)

"there is an element of queerness to it, whether you see it that way or as just the unbelievably passionate friendships that women have with each other at that age. i think understanding that element of it sort of informs the entire rest of their relationship...at the core of it, they knew each other as children, and they loved each other and that doesn't go away" – sara hess (executive producer/writer/lesbian)

"despite everything that happened, there is a deep connection and ultimately you can’t erase the fact that you loved and cared for someone. it can get twisted, but it cannot be deleted" – clare kilner (directed 1x04, 1x05, and 1x09)

"i saw the love and romance of these two girls, which makes it all the more tragic when they become estranged" – greg yaitanes (director of 1x02)

honestly there are more and this isnt even getting into everything emma, olivia, emily, and milly have said but 🤗 rhaenicent is canon change my mind!!!!

[mahgck]

ppl will be like "ough the stabbing as a metaphor for gay sex metaphor..." and they wont read the summer hikaru died. crazy. go read the summer hikaru died right now.

[gaygraviturgist]

our flag means death carrying on their grand tradition of stabbing being a metaphor for gay sex is just *chefs kiss*

[lets-jam]

what kinda lame ass tv tropes take is this 'sex metaphor is when you get stab with knife penetration mean sex unga bunga' ass take they weren't even sensually moaning during it u dumb fuck. Nothing even close to fingering fucking a flesh wound. And yeah buddy they sure were just holding hands cause that's about all that the writers intended! Any gay vibes you got from that was for the butt of a 'lol but imagine if he were actually gay (he's not) remember it's a joke he's totally not into men in any actual tangible capacity have I mentioned he fucks his girlfriend sooo much' they'll use gay, they'll never be it honey

[helianthologies]

when i say barbara and lee shouldve hooked up what i actually mean is they shouldve been doing killing eve shit to each other. they shouldve stabbed each other as a metaphor for gay sex