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Kind of funny. SPN was supposed to end in s5, with Sam in Hell, Cas in Heaven, and Dean on Earth, living with a wife and a son. But it ends after ten more season later with Cas in superhell, Dean in Heaven, and Sam on Earth, living with a wife and a son. Like some fucked up game of musical chairs. Except the chairs are never taken, the song remains the same, and they’re just going in circles. Anyways, Happy November 19th.
#remember that video where Jensen expressed dislike towards the finale#and they basically told him “look at it from the fan perspective” you mean like fans from 10 years ago???#they completely acknowledged that majority of their fandom NOW would not fucking like that ending.#they brought back Becky just to tell Chuck that it fucking SUCKED.#[sigh]#supernatural#spn#spn meta#spn finale#spngate#spn 5x22#swan song#spn 15x20#carry on#chuck won theory#chuck won#team free will#tfw#sam winchester#dean winchester#castiel#destiel#reiotalks
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I got this one hobby horse, and god knows I'm gonna saddle up and ride it: Supernatural was a legitimately good show and it was queer as hell in its very bones.
#anti-trashnatural agenda#spn#destiel#queer fandom has an understandable persecution complex#i get it#i was a sherlock fan#god knows#i have suffered my disappointments#but this was not that#read a little queer theory and get back to me
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Supernatural, Season 7 , Episode 7
The Mentalists
“You are a virile manifestation of the divine.” Is the best possible affirmation Dean could get.
I like this , a normal ish ghost case.
Ellen just gave advice to Dean. He needed that.?
Wasn’t Sam a psychic?????? Was the demon blood he got fed as a kid removed when he got zapped back by god after releasing Lucifer?
I also want to know how the spoon bending works
#spn#dean winchester#supernatural#supernatural fandom#sam winchester#spnfamily#spn dean#spn demons#spn first watch#spn quotes#spn cas#spn season 7#spn sam and dean#spn dean and sam#spn s7#spn fandom#spn fan#spn fangirl#spn winchester#the winchester boys#sam and dean#dean and sam#spn rant#spn quotes.#spn watch#ellen spn#spn thoughts#spn theory#spn demon#dean spn
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It has to be said...
Tim making Tommy "Abby's Tommy" = Supernatural making Chuck "God"
#9-1-1 on abc#911 abc#911 on abc#tommy kinard#abby clarke#chuck shurley#supernatural#spn#fan theories that became canon
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Queer women are the main culprits of fetishising mlm relationships (both real and nonexistent ones), and I think we’re all scared to admit that.
#before yall say anything I’m a sapphic#and I realise the call is coming from inside the house#particularly the bi/pan women and nb folks on social media#they’re reeeeaaally the issue here#because I wholeheartedly understand that this specific demographic (of which I am a part)#is especially desperate for any sort of lgbt representation#but the way some of them handle that desperation is by developing a cultist mindset#in relation to any two male main characters that glance in each other’s direction#and running campaigns against writers actors and other fans who don’t agree with them#and come up with all kinds of conspiracy theories to fuel their delusions#I’m so annoyed by yall honestly#and it pisses me off extra that it’s mainly women doing it#and yet they always ALWAYS end up despising and slandering and trying to write out the women#who have the audacity to show romantic interest in one half of their mlm#lord#bbc Sherlock#it’s always fucking bbc Sherlock fans isn’t it#also#spn#supernatural#anti destiel#anti johnlock
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#supernatural#spn#jack kline#castiel#castiel spn#supernatural theory#spn theory#theories#theory#fan theory#pinterest
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how is nobody talking about the two grunts named jared and jensen in chaos theory lmfao
#like i actually yelled out loud#not a big supernatural fan crossover ig but even i’m not a spn fan and I was like WAIT A SECOND#camp cretaceous#jurassic world chaos theory
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OOC Post:
I'm running a SPN blog for writing class, and I'm covering 4 topics. I haven't fleshed them out yet, but I have a basic overview.
1. Chuck lost his soul
2. Crowley and Rowena's relationship
3. The character assassination of Lucifer
4. Chuck booting Gabriel from the story
Here's what I have so far:
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Gabriel was a minor antagonist pretending to be an entity called The Trickster. After being revealed as Gabriel, he died. Later when he was revealed to be alive and getting tortured in Hell, he sacrificed himself to save the boys. Many speculate that Chuck intentionally excluded Gabriel from the narrative because he cared too much about Cas and the Winchesters, interfering with his narrative. Gabriel was the wild card. He went MIA, leaving Heaven to live among humans. Unlike Chuck, Lucifer, Michael, and Raphael, Gabriel adored humanity. And he especially loved the Winchesters (had a crush on Sam). There are numerous episodes where he tries steering them away from what Chuck wanted, especially when it came to Lucifer. Gabriel was a danger to Chuck's narrative as his true self. So Chuck wrote him as The Trickster and regulated him to a "character" that only came into their lives three times at that point in the narrative. But then the Winchesters uncovered his identity, so Chuck was forced to allow him to be Archangel Gabriel. The devoted youngest son that searched endlessly after God "vanished". That's why Gabriel dies a few episodes after the reveal. Chuck needed Gabriel gone, as he'd already started convincing Cas and the brothers not to kill Lucifer.
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Ok, so a big trigger for the brothers turning on Chuck is they find out all their trauma and stuff was purposely caused for Chuck's "entertainment" because he sees humanity as toys and characters for his "story”. When they suddenly made Chuck a villain with zero hints or foreshadowing, making his personality do a 180. So in Supernatural, you can lose your soul and live. Sam, Jack, and Crowley are examples. When you lose your emotions and sense of right and wrong (All three were able to recover their souls in various ways). During the fight against Amara, Chuck refused to kill his twin. She had no such reservations and destroyed him. This left Chuck powerless and slowly dying (the fucking SUN was going out because of this). Amara made amends and restored his power and they took a vacation to learn to get along (didn't work). The theory states that after Amara hit him so hard, she destroyed Chuck's soul.
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He had a really cool redemption arc/antihero plot line until the writers fucked him up. Lucifer low key good dad for Jack until the character assassination. Lucifer wasn't evil until he took the Mark of Cain to help Chuck seal away his twin sister Amara (The Darkness), then he got infected and turned. He also felt Chuck loved Adam and Eve more than him. Michael and Chuck locked him in a Cage in Super Hell. The Winchesters released him and all he did was fight with Michael so hard the world was almost destroyed (but I count that as both Michael and Lucifer's fault). He got out again using Cas as a vessel (Casifer) because he was needed to seal away Amara again. He had a really good talk with Chuck about how he took the Mark for Chuck and Chuck just locked him away once the Mark changed him. Then he gave Cas his body back and possessed the President so he could lose his virginity and have Jack. Crowley and Cas died trapping him on a destroyed earth in another dimension so he couldn't see Jack. Lucifer literally gives up his Grace and goes through Hell to get to Jack. Jack actually really liked him when they met on Apocalypse World, and Lucifer helped get everyone back onto the good earth. But the Winchesters trapped him there again and lied to Jack saying he died. From then on the writers ruined both Lucifer and Chuck and the finale.
#feel free to add on#ooc#supernatural#spnfandom#spn thoughts#gabriel spn#lucifer spn#chuck shurley#crowley spn#rowena macleod#fan theories#amara spn
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How do I even articulate this?
Basically I continue to think Klaus is very fucked up but not in the same way that 90 percent of the fandom seems to think (or prefer) and it is the WEIRDEST experience. I'm just constantly like, "oh yeah, I guess that IS how most fans perceive this character."
Does ANYONE else (aside my long-trusted mutuals) get this?
#ooc#my sole consolation is that Rob Sheehan himself doesn't seem to think differently from me)#it's 100 percent a fellow fans thing)#and i have theories about why)#what fascinates me is that i only ever had this to this extent with one other muse)#Gabriel from SPN)#which is interesting bc Gabe and Klaus have a lot of similiarities including classic “mascot” role in an abusive family dynamic)#and being perceived as way way shallower than they really are)#they mask their pain and insecurity similarly with humor and hedonism)#and it's like everyone BUYS it)#meanwhile i'm like “but that's a trauma induced persona y'all”)#and then i realize maybe the audience identifies with that trauma and ALSO needs to mask)#so this is their comfort character that they turn into a safe self projection)#but to me the most counter intuitive part of this is that people need Klaus to be selfish and self thwarting and 'lazy' and 'cowardly' )#Klaus is their FAVORITE and they call him 'pathetic' and seem to RELISH that he's a 'loser' and 'doomed' to relapse)#and they say 'same' and 'me too' and i realize maybe they need this)#maybe it helps them feel less awful about themselves if their comfort character indefinitely fails to recover)#idk)
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#okay so the chances that you'll see this are slim#but. if you are the one who talked to me with your mom while waiting for autographs at the end of the convention yesterday#i am sorry for converting your mom to the finale 'conspiracy theory' 😂#I don't normally go around trying to convince everyone of spngate. but it came up in the conversation organically!!!!#and she was so receptive like 'that makes so much sense oh my god' that i just kept going#laying the whole foundation and pointing out the parts of s15 that warned us of the network battle (becky's episode for example)#and i gotta say. the absolutely incredible satisfaction i got from successfully explaining this to a 'general audience' fan........#it will carry me for weeks 😂 like omg it DOES make sense! even to people who arent obsessed with destiel!#like just a relatively normal person who loves supernatural and went with her daughter to her first convention#anyway yeah. i know the person I'm talking to isnt reading this. so for everyone who IS here. i need you to know#if you are ever talking to a normie spn fan who says they hated the ending... you can be honest with them ❤️#we even exchanged emails and i sent her the finale script with all the OMITTED and she said she likes me and wants to be friends 🥲
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🅱️ A L L S
tanuki!Bobby statue
I do wonder why this isn't a more popular hc
(statue by me)
#supernatural#spn#fanart#statue#minifigure#bobby singer#robert singer#dakota bob#jim beaver#tanuki#yokai#mythology#headcanon#spn headcanon#fan theory#supernatural theories#artblr#artists on tumblr#sculpture#small artist#fan artist#sculpy#watercolor#sharpie#glue#multimedia#diy#shitpost art
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people will make fun of tjlc for being a conspiracy and then turn around and do the same thing with their show and be 100% convinced that they're right actually and the difference is that the tjlcers were wrong
#i am baffled#baffled baffled baffled#i guess the nature of fandom IS that every so often someone will invent a conspiracy theory and hundreds will believe them#i was going through my discord servers today to leave the ones i no longer participate in#and i popped into an old spn server and was shocked to discover it'd turned into a paywalled authoritarian group where disagreeing with the#official position that spn is a great show and posing any criticisms was punished with expulsion#I'd never left a discord server faster in my whole life#spn was a dumpster fire with like 5 decent people tops in the writing team and maybe a dozen good episodes written between all of them#robbie thompson bobo berens davy perez steve jockey (may he rest in peace) you were my only hos#sorry ben edlund i deleted the early seasons from my mind I'm sure we'd have been friends otherwise#real spn fans are willing to admit we got hooked on a terrible thing and let it jerk us around for fun#i would however like to know who commissioned the market research someday#andrew dabb what side of history were you on
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daily mantra: you can do nothing about peoples rancid takes you can do nothing about peoples rancid takes you can do nothing about peoples rancid takes
#just gotta enjoy the things i like :)#i do have a theory why the spn takes are SO rancid now tho#i genuinely think there was this feedback loop with people who Never watched seasons 9-15 OTHER than 15x18#when the show ended and now thats popular fanon#dean fans were Not this bad when the show was airing#they were self-aware for the most part post s9#thats when I remember the vibe changing bc dean gets... yeah... post s9#post MOC in particular#it was easier to love dean as a character#and to criticize sam#when the fanbase was less horrible about it#and the thing is?? I love that sam is a little shitty!!! thats the fucking point!!!!!#stop dragging him for deans shit tho i stg#that being said#if i follow you and youre a dean fan this isnt about you#lea speaks
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Really missing those spn tumblr theory accts that would break down the whole episode bit by bit and theorize what was gonna happen in the season finales.
Please reblog with an account you follow that does The Winchesters episode theories.
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istg if you dumbasses make oliver and ryan turn into their shells and make everything super private, i'm gonna sic the crows on you. and it won't be anything like chimney's experience.
i don't care if you ship ryliver or buddie or bt or nothing or everything. keep your shipping to the fandom spaces. don't harass real people with your fantasies and bullshit theories.
i'm seriously gonna go feral if this damages oliver and ryan's friendship display online because that's the potential of such mindless actions. we already saw it in one direction, spn and glee fandoms (you know what i'm talking about), don't need more now.
do not destroy this experience for oliver and ryan and their fans.
#leave the cast alone#they owe you nothing#oliver stark#ryan guzman#get an ai chatbot if you're that desperate#how are you not embarrassed#my gods the audacity#buddie#evan buckley#eddie diaz#911 abc#911 fox#ryliver#srue sparks
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I think it’s so interesting how much authority is awarded “the author” in different fandoms. You always here people scream “Death of the Author” but still hold up authorship as an authoritative concept.
Like, when Buffy had bad storylines the consensus was something like ‘trust Joss Whedon” who btw turned out to be a horrible person.
Similarly, Kripke was kind of deified by the fandom (and also kind of by the show) during early seasons spn.
Even disclaimers on fanfics show this dynamic. Why did we write stuff like ‘these characters belong to JKR’?!? Like no shit, I didn’t create Sirius Black but the character still doesn’t belong to that woman?
It’s so interesting to look at the stark difference between gomens and spn fan discourse at the moment. I’m not saying one way is the right way, just that the dynamics are interesting.
Neil says something and most people respect it, some even see it as their duty to act as his apostle and spread his word. People are in his asks to try and get his opinion on certain fan theory bc they consider him the ultimate authority over canon.
And then you have spn fans, especially destiel fans. Not only do they not care what kripke/ dabb or most of the show runners say, they actively oppose the “authors”’ perceived interpretations of the characters and routinely make fun of them. Dabb says he wrote a finale that is only meant to satisfy 30% of the fans and the rest of the fandom decides to strike it from canon and collectively produce enough fix-it fic to fill a library.
Can you imagine what would have happened if Dabb or Kripke or whoever had asked the fandom to keep a spoiler or leak like the gomens one a secret?!? It would have become a meme in 5 seconds and it would have trended above a historic election.
#Fandom meta#fandom culture#spn#gomens#death of the author#supernatural#destiel#fanfic and authorship#neil gaiman#andrew dabb#eric kripke#buffy#i do not support jkr#gomens s2#gomens leak#good omens#good omens discourse
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