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WARNING! DO NOT CLICK THE READ MORE IF YOU HAVE NOT SEEN SONIC 3! I AM SERIOUS. I AM DISCUSSING A MAJOR SPOILER OF THE END CREDITS SCENE. IF YOU READ BELOW AND GET MAD ABOUT BEING SPOILED. ITS ON YOU. DONT @ ME FOR YOU NOT READING THIS VERY BLATANT WARNING
I have some theories on what the plot of the CONFIRMED Sonic 4 will be. See this theory below
HEY, DID YOU READ THE WARNING ABOVE! IF YOU DIDNT THEN ITS ON YOU.
I have a lot of theories on what the premise of the 4th movie could be.
1. Sonic CD inspired Past and Future Gimmick!
Sonic ran so fast in the end credits scene that he not only ended up in New York... he ended up in the future. Where Metal Sonics are the enforcers of the world. Eggman or someone with Eggman's tech (Like Stone), managed to create Metal Sonic. With Sonic not there, the metal sonic's easily took over the world.
Amy, the one we see in the end credits, is actually a FREEDOM FIGHTER. And probably leading it. Sonic of course says he will fix this and save everyone. Cue some reason why he isnt going back to the past right away.... He bonds with Amy and maybe even crushes on her.
Amy explains something about how that after the events of Sonic 3, the explosion of the Super weapon caused a portal to open resulting in a bunch of aliens coming to earth (That or maybe they just started showing up because they heard about sonic. whatever reason). Sonic finds out that Someone made a robot of him and without him there, the metal sonics won. Also there is the Death Egg.
Sonic ends up having a showdown with Metal Sonic Prime/ The OG Metal Sonic at some point and Sonic gets back to his time in which Sonic arrives just in time to fight Metal Sonic Prime again, but back when he was first created.
Day is saved and Also Amy of the Present is there and she finally meets Sonic. Cue Meetcute
2.Sonic Heroes inspired Gimmick
After Sonic 2, a lot more mobians/ aliens actually started showing up all over earth. Some because they heard of Sonic and were fans of the hedgehog (Like Amy). And others because Mobius is in trouble, to ask Sonic for help.
After the events of Sonic 3, its revealed that Eggman didnt die, but was actually sent into a wormhole and sent him to Sonic's homeworld.
Anyway he uses Sonic's Quill to create a new robot. A Metal Sonic. And this metal Sonic ends up learning and becomes sentient. And creates more of himself, he betray's eggman. Now the metal sonics and Neo Metal Sonic, go to earth to destroy Sonic. So that Metal Sonic can be the one true sonic.
Also introducing others like Rouge, Omega, and maybe even Cream the Rabbit
3. A mix of both
So its a Future idea, but with Neo Metal Sonic as the Main Villain. We may even get one of Metal sonic's big forms. Like Perfect Chaos, Super Neo Metal, or even.... the Red one from Knuckle's chaotix.
We also have Sonic meet some cool older versions of cream, big the cat, the Chaotix, and rouge. As well as an older Shadow who helps Sonic out.
These Teams have their own plots and have to help save the future and help sonic go back in time to get home.
Sonic will have his epic climactic battle with Neo Metal who reveals he was created by the Doctor. (either as a fail safe that creates him, he actually survives but metal betrayed him, or Stone created him)
Sonic's lesson in this is more about knowing how to be a true leader.
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I guess the main question I have for Sonic 4 is if Shadow will be in it, because I'm not sure whether or not he'll be allowed to have his own spinoff movie. Preferably, I'd like a separate film dedicated to Shadow meeting Rouge and Omega, and maybe even throw the Black Arms in there.
If there's one character you can justify not coming back in 4, it'd be Shadow. It seems like he'd be off doing his own thing, rather than becoming a permanent member of the main cast like Tails and Knuckles.
I also genuinely think Shadow could carry a theatrical movie of his own, especially after all the praise Keanu's performance has gotten. Guess we'll have to wait and see.
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oh yeah, and designwise it'd probably be better if stone made it, because if eggman built him, he'd probably design metal sonic the way he designs his badniks, the white minimalist robots, If stone made it, he would end up closer to the design from cd
so Jim Carrey said that movie 3 will be his last role, and then they also confirmed that there will be alot more movies in sonic cinema like Marvel does, and I love the idea that Amy will be in the next post credits scene, because it just makes sense... so, do you think movie 4 and onwards would have Metal Sonic as the main villain??
Oooooooo, that would be very interesting!! I like that I idea, though I personally have always thought that once Robotnik is gone, Stone will take his place as the main antagonist. It would be immensely interesting, especially since Sonic loves to banter with his enemies and Stone is kinda. Well. Stone faced. XD I also think it would be kinda cool to watch Stone just completely unravel as he tries to fulfill his boss's wish if destroying that hedgehog. An insane Stone would be really interesting to see!
Maybe Stone is the one who creates Metal Sonic! That way we can still have Metal as a major villain like you suggested. I think it would make sense for Stone to create Metal, especially if he still has access to the quill we saw Sonic give Robotnik in the trailer yesterday.
Anyway, sorry for the rambling. XD To sum it up, yes Metal Sonic being the new main villain would be very cool! But I think it should be in tandem with Agent Stone.
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This isn’t a gripe or complaint or anything, but I’m genuinely curious how they’ll balance the cast in Sonic 4. Because the argument is that Shadow’s story is too dense to include anyone else, and he’s not going anywhere after 3, meaning his story isn’t over. And if the next one introduces Amy and Metal like everyone’s speculating, then that means they’d have to compete with Shadow’s story. Not only that, but would they have the budget to handle six CGI main characters?
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I’m terribly sorry for taking some time to answer your ask. Thank you for being so patient with me, o really appreciate it.
I think that this is a good point that you’ve brought up. Shadow’s story is pretty meaty. From what I’ve seen with the leaks, it tackles the story pretty well. Remember: this is a movie version of the game character, not everything is gonna be 100%. There’s a couple of things that may be different, but it’s okay. However, it does leave wiggle room to explore it in the future. I think that a spin-off would definitely be necessary for Shadow… especially with the positive reviews and comments about his so far this year.
In short of my rambling, we’ll just have to wait and see what happens. I’m fairly positive that there will be a good balance between five or six potential characters.
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BESTIE, what was your favorite part of the movie and any predictions for Sonic 4?
ooooh OKAY I love love LOVED the montages with Maria. Not sure why she couldn't be ill in some way that didn't involve the gravitational effects allegedly nullified by living on the ARK, but eh. Those scenes gave such a nice glimpse at a different side of Shadow; in some shots, his expression almost made him look like a completely different character from the Shadow in the present. Super cool.
As for Sonic 4... I'm *tempted* to think it'll be loosely based around Sonic CD, but with the way Amy was introduced, I've seen some other folks speculate that it'll be more Heroes-coded. It'll probably take influences from both (especially if we end up getting a Shadow show in the interim, cough cough) and form its own thing. A part of me also thinks that the core theme of it might be for Sonic to further his independence, as seems to be a theme following through from 2 and 3; the more he hangs around his team, the less he hangs around Tom and Maddie, and that's not bad! It's just a part of growing up. Depending on how Amy is portrayed, it could definitely happen. (I shudder to make the comparison, but think Bo Peep from TS4, I guess.)
#ask#ty bestie#hehehe now I'll work on the other post... oddly my thoughts have circled more about what might happen in sonic 5#sonic movie 4#sonic movie 3 spoilers
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Hey yall 🫡 dropping some sonic 4 theories based around a certain someone under the spoiler line! Please do not read if you haven’t seen the movie it contains spoilers of the post credit scenes!! Lemme know what u guys think bc this has been gnawing at my brain since I saw the movie:
Okay guys, here’s some of my theories speculating on Ivo’s possible return because I’m super sad rn and my need for reunited stob has taken over me. Again, this is all for fun and I love the ending of the movie I just miss Ivo and these are my jumbled up thoughts on how he could possibly come back based on the post credits:
Ignore if I spelled anything wrong or that I have run on sentences it’s 3am for me 😭
#jimbotnik#sonic movie 3 spoilers#sonic movie spoilers#sonic spoilers#major spoilers#do not read if you haven’t seen the movie#PLEASE#not super super familiar with the games’ stories bc I haven’t played in a bit but I know the general gist#teehee I’m going insane
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Would you believe we're just a little over a month away before Sonic the Hedgehog 3 premieres in theaters? Would you also believe that there's already been discussions about how the movie will end? Well, sort of. There weren't any specifics shared, but Sonic movies director Jeff Fowler did confirm something that fans were suspecting would be the case: the end of the movie will follow a tradition established by the previous 2 films and tease the appearance of another character.
So, Fowler had confirmed this in an interview with Entertainment Weekly, saying that "this movie is no different in terms of teasing new characters". Most of his remarks, however, were about the fan debates regarding said character teasers. Fowler did say that "we have a lot of the same conversations. We've all got our favorites on the filmmaking side, and we're all making great cases for 'it should be this one or that one.' It is fun to keep that anticipation".
Of course, don't expect to find out who the character is just yet. That is obviously a major spoiler and obvious something that they're not going to reveal before the movie's premiere next month. Once fans have been able to see the movie though, it probably won't be long before the secret's out and you'll have to be very careful with avoiding spoilers online.
That doesn't mean we can't speculate though! There's a few candidates for who it could be. Silver's a possibility, especially if recent rumors end up being true. It could also be Metal Sonic, one of Sonic's biggest and most stubborn foes that isn't Eggman. The character that has the most potential is, however, Amy Rose. She's the last character from the main cast that has yet to appear. In fact, you could argue that Metal Sonic being teased wouldn't rule out Amy also making an appearance in a possible 4th movie (keep in mind a Sonic the Hedgehog 4 film hasn't actually been confirmed yet!) if Sonic CD becomes a theme of inspiration, similar to how Sonic Movie 3 is inspired by Sonic Adventure 2. Whoever it is, we won't have to wait long to find out. Sonic the Hedgehog 3 is premiering on December 20th!
Via Entertainment Weekly
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use this ask as an excuse to talk about maria robotnik :D!! love to see what you have to say :]
THIS HAS BEEN IN MY INBOX FOR SO LONG IM SO SORRY DHDJDN
Sorry this became kind of just a rant of me doing weird speculations UHM. Dhdndbdb
Maria is just sooo. Everything about her is so compelling to me! The way she's treated as secondary in her Own Story. Even when we're supposed to be thinking about her, Shadow or the ARK is always looming just slightly in the background. She exists in this vacuum of being one of the most important and recognizable human characters in fandom, yet we barely know anything about her! She's related to THE main antagonist and we've heard him talk about her maybe 4 or 5 times. She's a ghost and a martyr and a sacrifice and another name on a list of tragedies and Shadow's sister and Eggman's cousin and a sickly little girl and the catalyst for So MUCH Sonic lore. Everything we now about her, how she acts and why, what she was like, how she felt about her family and the ARK, is determined Mostly by fan interpretation (as far as I know. I mean, she was in Archie as a ghost or hologram or something, but I haven't read that far yet). Even still, the interpretation from fans seems to be always the same! That she was courageous, curious, reckless and active despite her illness. She sought out danger and excitement even if it meant she might accidentally hurt herself. Often times I see Shadow being written as the voice for reason, instead of her! They also agree that she inherited the Robotnik family trait of being intelligent and inventive (something that's actually actively supported by Sonic Channel artwork featuring her reading or excelling in classes). Fans like to think that she wasn't helpless, despite what her game writing would imply, and they kind of reject the notion that she was a perfect young girl who was quiet and polite and attentive which imo is the exact Opposite of what SEGA seemed to want for the character. I really really like this!! It's so fascinating to me how everyone seemingly agrees on these traits despite how little we know of her. What caused that? Coincidence? Did the way Sonic X rebooted Maria with the character Helen affect anything? Fans have given her so much more depth and I love to see it!!!
I want to know so MUCH about her. What was life like on the ARK, where are her parents, what's the Robotnik family tree look like, etc.? We know so Much about every other character, we kind of take it for granted I think. We know most of their favorite foods, songs, colors, flowers, bands, activities, weather patterns, where they live and who they live with, what they do for a living, what their daily routine is like. We even know some of their favorite Gaming Consoles!! But for Maria we get Nothing! Does she even like the color blue? How does she feel about the ARK? What's her favorite movie, song, food, animal? Does she like bugs or reptiles? Does she talk to the other scientists on the ARK? If so, what about? Does she like them? Do they like her? What was her relationship with Commander Towers, and why do we rarely see them mentioned together? When Shadow was created, did she start avoiding Towers, or were they never great friends? What books does she like to read? What's her favorite genre?
She's also just so tragic in a way that's so. Gets me ILL when I think about it for too long. She was Never going to reach the Earth. Did she know? Did she lay awake at night and think about it? She's so so optimistic and hopeful, I don't want to think she ever let herself give up on that dream tbh. And if GUN successfully shut down the ARK without killing her, would she have survived the trip back to the planet? She HAD to live on the ARK for a reason, and the government knew that. Was her death something they had already accepted as collateral before even stepping foot on the ARK? Did the soldier that shot her see her as a dead girl walking? Was the plan always to kill her as a way to make Gerald vulnerable and weak, and the soldier only thought about it enough to recognize it as himself taking the opportunity where he could? Did anyone else develop NIDS before or after those events? Did a proper cure ever develop? Did the citizens of the Earth ever do anything to honor or acknowledge the ARK tragedy? Did GUN ever formally apologize? Is there a monument or something out there?
And about her death! Did the Robotnik family ever find out she died? How long did they have to wait until they got confirmation? Did Maria ever get the dignity of a proper grave and funeral? How long did that take? Was she religious? If so, which religion? Shadow the Hedgehog (the game) is steeped in nods and references to Catholicism, was he Catholic? Was Maria? How did she feel about her religion? Would she have got along with Sonic and Co.? How would she feel about Eggman?
And she was like. Always going to be Shadow's Sister or The Sick Kid. How did that affect her? She's got the Secondary Character To Her Own Life and Doomed By The Narrative swag and it leaves me BEGGING for more information. We can learn a bit about her from Shadow, and assume some things about her based off the way he acts, but a story focused on her specifically would be so so interesting to me.
And about Shadow! Does he ever visit her grave? In Sonic X uncut, he makes a grave marker for Molly, someone who was a lot like Maria too. Did he do that for Maria as well? And if Shadow and Emerl were made "with her soul" or whatever, how much of them are traits of hers? If Gemerl was reprogrammed to be like Emerl, is he similar? I don't know how Maria acted, but I know Gemerl's personality well. Was Maria like that too? How far can you abstract from the original before there aren't any original traits left?
Anyways. Idk. She's so so cool to me. She can be projected on in basically any way becuz of how Little we actually have confirmed about her which is cool too!! Idk what SEGA's obsession with making little girl martyrs is, but I think all of them are cool. Thank God Helen didn't kick the bucket too, idk how many Maria clones my emotional state can handle. If Tikal is the original little girl martyr, would that make Maria a Tikal clone..... Much to think about!
#maria robotnik#sorry if this is Incomprehensible. uh. i kinda just started typing and then kept on typing. and i have ADHD. SOOOOO you can imagine how well#that goes. dhshfbbf
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Sonic the Hedgehog 4 film sequel on the way
Enter and Win Robux Coins The fourth Sonic the Hedgehog movie is underway, with a release date in the spring of 2027. As reported by Variety, Paramount is currently preparing for a new film, with Sonic the Hedgehog 3 set to hit theaters this weekend. Fans have already speculated which new characters will be introduced in the third film, after which the tribute will surely become the focus of the…
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Following on from my previous post it seems like movie 3 as is won't be the place Amy and/or Rouge are introduced (unless they're just really keeping it a secret but somehow I doubt that) so to sorta just turn in some speculation like. Fowler or someone else already said if movie 3 does well Shadow could get a solo project, and yk that'd be a great place to introduce Rouge assuming said solo project is nothing like the Knuckles series. If they wanted to this Shadow solo project could be Amy's introduction as well although presumably Shadow thing comes after his character arc has already happened so Amy isn't really relevant to him. I guess possible approach is Shadow thing introduces Rouge and then movie 4 introduces Amy and Metal Sonic? That sounds good, I think I could take that. Like I really do think these characters should be here already or we should at least know that they're upcoming, and I think that's probably the most efficient way to do it that still makes sense and stuff.
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UPDATE ON THIS!
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I recently found out that the final two songs that play are "Green Hills Good Future" and "The Edge of Tomorrow" respectively. So this does indeed confirm Movie 4 will be following the outline for Sonic CD (if Amy and Metal being the post-credit characters wasn't enough of a confirmation).
I don't believe that Amy herself is from the future like everyone is speculating, but was able to predict it via her tarot cards (which is also how she knew they would attack Sonic). I'm not so sure that she lives there anymore. Rather, I think that MAYBE (just MAYBE) she lives on Little Planet, which could be where most hedgehogs live? And Sonic's bio parents simply dropped him off where he is shown to be living in the prologue scene for the first movie?
Or she really is just a New Yorker. Both work for me tbh. If she doesn't live there, then it's likely she does a reading to figure out how to stop the Metal army, and finds out that way about Little Planet. (Idk how that would work, since tarot cards seem fairly limited in their language unless you're an expert on interpreting them, which thankfully is what Amy is).
Now for a brand new theory to attach to this one!
I feel like thanks to all the time-travel shenanigans Sonic and co. will get up to, this will cause a problem even FURTHER into the future, which is how they will introduce Silver. I feel like they maybe won't adapt Sonic 06 (for obvious reasons), but still include elements like the Iblis Trigger and what-have-you. (Who knows, maybe Sonic's actions DO indeed end up triggering Iblis!). Thanks to his new friends Amy (and possibly Shadow if Sonic and co. reunite with him before the fifth movie), Sonic will hopefully be able to fight off Silver, unlike with Shadow where his ass got turned into a blue food coloring-dyed pound cake.
That's all for now! I'll reblog again if I come up with another theory, or when more information on the movie releases.
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Okay so CAN WE TALK ABOUT A FEW THINGS
NUMBER ONE, New York?? Either Amy was tracking him down actively or she just so happened to be here at the same time as Sonic, and if it's the second thing, then that means...
AMY ROSE NEW YORKER REAL??
Also let's talk about her design now. I wonder why they chose to give her those bangs instead of trying to replicate her hair arches? Is it to help differentiate her between her game counterpart or what?
Also noticed her gloves are long enough so that they go past her ring cuffs, which is an interesting decision as well.
Oh and pink arms, neato.
Also also notice her head shape is sort of eggish instead of perfectly rounded?? It'll probably be tweaked in the fourth movie itself, like how Shadow looked different in his post-credits scene.
Also, in this shot, you can sort of make out the silhouette of her boots, which means that she DOES have her game outfit on under her cloak! They may not give her the trademark saucer skirt, though.
And what's the deal with multiple Metals?? Did Robotnik make them all? Were they all prototypes he never finished, or is there a "prime" Metal that created all these robotic doubles to distract everyone from him? Will "Prime" Metal have a design similar to Neo Metal or will he look the same as all these guys?
Also noticed Amy's hammer is charged with a similar energy to what Sonic/Knuckles/Shadow have! I do wonder why this energy isn't inside of her body. Did she willingly transfer it inside of her hammer? It also looks like she can control it even when she isn't holding it, which may allude to her having psychic powers of some sort, which would of course in turn allude to the more spiritual aspects of her character. Does she still use tarot cards? Do other humans know about her? If she is indeed an Earth resident, does this imply that more Mobians may be in hiding all over Earth?
That's enough of my unorganized ranting for now, but as you can see I am VERY hyped. :>
#sonic movie 3#sonic movie spoilers#sonic movie theory#Sonic movie discussion#Sonic movie 4 theory#Sonic movie 4 discussion#sonic movie universe
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Full Tangle AU List (aka the Tangleverse)
Finally it’s compiled!!! I have here for you a list of 22 different Tangles for you to browse and rotate in your brain :3 A bunch of these come with content for other characters, though, so if you’re not as Tangle-focused as I am you could probably find something neat to look at.
Each listing is entered under its designated AU name, if there is a relevant link to the AU’s original source it’ll be linked within the title, and I’ll add a short summary or blurb about the Tangle or AU as a whole. I’ll also make distinctions for if an AU has art.
None of these AUs are my own creations, unless they’ve got a ~Leori signature after them - follow the link to their individual creators! In the case of my own AUs, I usually don’t have much content for them because I don’t know what to say, so feel free to send in asks. Or for the ones with very little content, do whatever you’d like with them, they’re basically open prompts.
The numbers don’t matter, they’re just for tallying up how many there are. I’m not ranking these.
This is long, so I’m putting everything after the table of contents under a ‘read more’. ○ Swap AUs ○ Future AUs ○ General AUs ○ Crossover AUs ○ Jokesy AUs
=:= • Swap AUs Shifts around Tangle’s story role, or shuffles canon aspects together.
> 1: Sonic Switcharoo AU • Swaps out the roles of various canon characters - Tangle is the protagonist now, Espio takes Jet’s role as her racing rival, and Starline is her Big Bad like Eggman. Has designs for Tangle and a majority of the characters in the pinned google doc!
> 2: Stella Fulgur / Crash AU • AU of an AU! ParzivalBo uses the setting and dynamics of Pantalion’s Sonic Crash AU and builds Tangle and Whisper their own unique backstories and storylines. Most interestingly... this Tangle is somewhat of a fusion with Surge and Fiona, having a way different (but still recognizably Tangle!) personality! She can’t stretch her tail, instead using electricity powers based on Surge’s lightning and being able to assume control of robots! As far as I know, there’s no art of this Tangle (or Whisper), except my own old interpretation of her design, and a meme I drew for this Tangle’s hatred of Shadow. Also, this Tangle has a motorcycle.
> 3: Tangle’s Log / Sonic X AU • What if Tangle was in Sonic X..? That’s this fic! A whole 77k+ words following Tangle’s inclusion in Sonic X from the start, stretching into some of the games, like Sonic Adventure 1 & 2, plus an original Tangle backstory also featured in some of 77XFire’s other works! Has some cute slice of life, plus some ludicrous Tangle feats, even if this Tangle is only 12-13. (She punches a boulder in half with her tail. And manages to hold up a collapsing building all alone.) There is also an old interpretation I drew of an alt. outfit she gets later in the fic, as well as a meme of a certain... situation that comes to be.
> 4: Movieverse Tangle & Jewel • Stick Tangle and Jewel into the movieverse YEEEAAAHH !! Doesn’t change the existing movie plots, and gives the girls their own guardian.
> 5: Heroswap!Tangle • My own ‘protagonist Tangle’ AU, sort of a ‘what if they settled on Tangle’s design rather than Sonic’s for Sega’s mascot’ while still retaining any games I like, like Unleashed. Includes Metal Tangle and Weretangle... once I design them. Tails is Tangle’s lil buddy. ~Leori
> 6: Knuckles!Tangle • Swaps Tangle’s and Knuckles’ story roles, with Tangle being the last of her species and at first an antagonist to Sonic - usually tripping him up with her tail - before becoming begrudging friends. Somewhat inspired by this meme... ~Leori
=:= • Future AUs Speculation or just for funsies years-future versions of Tangle (and usually Whisper).
> 7: Milolunde 10 years AU • I’ve linked right to the Tangle and Whisper designs, but those are a part of their ‘10 years later’ AU as a whole, which also has Sonic and Tails stuff.
> 8: Arsworld Future AU • The link leads to the one comic I found their designs through, haha. I’m not certain how far in the future this AU is, but it’s at least a few years? The design are really sweet though, I like the biker look for Tangle.
=:= • General AUs The miscellaneous category, usually AUs that stick close to canon with a little change.
> 9: Red Wisp Buddy • mercyofempty’s ‘tangle gets a Wisp’ AU, which doesn’t seem to have much posted on it but is beloved all the same.
> 10: Yellow Wisp Buddy • modderkin64/moddersayethstuff’s ‘tangle gets a Wisp’ AU, content in the link!
> 11: Continuation AU / Jade Wisp Buddy • questionedentity’s AU following Tangle and Whisper tentatively rejoining, despite Whisper’s lingering worries over Mimic’s freedom... and Tangle befriends a Jade Wisp!
> 12: Emo!Tangle / Lemursib!Tangle • AU where Shadow and Tangle are biological siblings and half-hedgehog, half-lemur, I haven’t figured out how it works. They have a close sibling relationship, and Tangle has chaos powers in addition to her own. This AU started out as just ‘what if Tangle had hair covering her eye also’ (first link) and became the whole thing. ~Leori
> 13: Zombot!Tangle AU • AU where Tangle isn’t... fully cured of the Metal Virus. She returns to normal, but there’s actually still mutated virus inside of her that remains passive unless its host is threatened, and then just makes her made of goopy metal. Angsty over the visuals of Whisper seeing Tangle looking like a zombot, but she’s a way more silvery color than her copper zombot form, and doesn’t go brainless or bloodthirsty. ~Leori
=:= • Crossover AUs These mix continuities with something non-Sonic.
> 14: Digimon!Tangle AU • So hey what if Tangle and Whisper were Digimon? Now they are!! Currently only has Champion forms for either of them, but I plan to give them Ultimate forms at least, then mayyyybe Rookie or Mega. ~Leori
> 15: Ninja!Tangle AU • Tangle is the Ninja of Norrisville Spiral Hill! She spends her days normally, except for when Stanked monsters attack town and she has to fight them to return them to normal civilians... all while keeping her secret identity with only a thin barrier of glamour magic preventing her being immediately recognized. So, just a Randy Cunningham: 9th Grade Ninja AU. ~Leori
> 16: KH Sonic AU Tangle • Basically replacing everyone in KH with Sonic characters, original personalities intact and dynamics changed to reflect the new personalities. I replaced Sora with Sonic and Roxas with Tangle, and if you know KH lore you know that’s not all but that’s all I have figured out to say. Also, Shadow is Vanitas. ~Leori
=:= • Jokesy AUs May not have entire narratives, and may be or start out as a gag... but can still be beloved.
> 17: Tangoodle • A mod for Sonic Robo Blast 2 Kart, adding not one but TWO Tangle-themed characters: Tangle herself... and Tangoodle. Look at her, she’s adorable!!
> 18: Tangle II • Origin post here. Tangle but again and smaller and the Whispangle daughter <3 she’s been confused for canon and is incredibly fierce and beloved. Technically not a Tangle herself, since she has distinct origins and personality - more like Xion or Roxas, to use a KH analogy. However, the Tangle I who takes care of Toongle counts as her own Tangle, since she is a mother who drives Toongle to soccer practice and does mom things like grounding her daughter and baking for her daughter’s bake sale.
> 19: Speciesswap!Tangle • AU shapeshifter Tangle who can assume the form of any species with a ringed tail - such as raccoons, genets, ringtailed cats, red pandas, and tigers. No art yet... but she’s on the list. ~Leori
> 20: Paletteswap!Tangle • You’ll want to look at the image before reading the description, otherwise this is incomprehensible. The visual gag is the entirety of the AU, but I like to think the mask on paletteswap!Tangle is some sort of hallucination or vaguely self-recurring illusion that has haunted her all her life, so seeing the real version of the thing that keeps covering half her face for no reason immediately draws her to Whisper... to steal it. They have a kismessitude and this may or may not have inspired a potential fic?? ~Leori
> 21: Deadpool!Tangle • She’s not actually Deadpool, she’s just borrowing that brand of humor and meta-knowledge. She reaches her tail around comic panels and is hyperaware of the Sega mandates on character writing, even telling Jewel not to mention her parents too often so she can have more ‘screen time’ and be a ‘main character’. Jewel has no idea what that means, but Tangle’s been talking about ‘becoming a main character someday’ their whole lives and the whole switch to ‘finally BEING a main character’ isn’t that much more obnoxious. ~Leori
> 22: No Tail Tangle • What it says on the tin. :) ~Leori
#long post#tangle the lemur#tangleverse#the tangleverse#fic rec#sth fic rec#leori words#leori art moment#it's been days since i made the decision to make this....#finally got all the source links together
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After watching season one for the thousandth time, I decided to bite the bullet and watch SDS season 4 for the first time (after skipping season 3, because no). It was... okay.
Pros I can remember off the top of my head: Meliodas' love for Zeldris (that sibling relationship always gives me smiles), Ban being hilarious at the worst of times, Escanor backstory/death scene, when Meliodas tried to give the Demon King one last chance before defeating him and that moment after when the DG hinted at Chaos coming.
Cons: The fading in and out of scenes. Like what was that all about? They'd fade out and fade right back into the same scene. It was freaking weird. King's "mature" voice. I know I've mentioned that when I watched the second movie earlier this year, but it's like he's a completely different person, which I guess is the point seeing as he's supposed to be the almighty Fairy King. And yet Elaine gets to keep her voice, mannerisms, etc. The fact that Tristan has like the same hair style as that knight from the Roars of Dawn, same hair color too. The intro/outros. Bryce Papenbrook as Meliodas and Zeldris. As Meliodas, at times I would be like "perfect", others I'm like "this is Eren Jaeger", then I'll be thinking "he doesn't follow the same principle as Sean Schemmel by keeping the same tone of voice when you're in certain forms (it was odd hearing his happy go lucky tone while in his assault form), but most of all I don't understand why they decided to also have him voice Zeldris when he sounds way too close to Meliodas. Jason Griffith pulled it off flawlessly with Sonic and Shadow, but Bryce didn't quite manage it.
I've probably forgotten some things, but overall, it was just an okay season. It was nice to finally see certain things animated and condensed. Since this season covers the part of the manga where I felt things were really dragging, it was much easier to consume it this way. I still have no interest in the manga sequel that follows Tristan, but I have caught on that Arthur is a villain, and I wonder if him consuming Cath has anything to do with that. But that's just random speculation.
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I know that people speculate that the fourth movie might be a combination between CD and Heroes, with many suggesting that it should feature Metal Sonic as a main antagonist. But the more I thought about it and the more information had been revealed about the third movie, the more I think it’s rather unlikely for at least two reasons.
The plot of Heroes is largely based around the dynamics of multiple teams of three. Right now, there’s only one established team, whose dynamic has been confirmed to be explored in the third movie, and Shadow who’s most likely going off on his own after his debut. As it stands, the only way the fourth movie would be able to feature a dynamic of teams without it feeling like a rehash is if it features at least two or more teams. However, the movies generally only introduce two game character per installment and the spinoffs are unlikely to introduce another if the Knuckles miniseries is any indication.
Speaking of rehashing, the third movie would have already done the plot of a team vs a rival with a striking resemblance to Sonic and close ties with a member of the Robotnik family. I know that Metal Sonic usually doesn’t talk and has a simpler backstory compared to Shadow, but I don’t think that'll be enough to convince the executives at Paramount (there’s a reason why the writers had to actively vouch for the DER in movie 2). If anything, the only thing that would sufficiently set Metal apart from Shadow and Knuckles is the ability to copy and transform, but that would require the movie to put a lot of screentime on the dynamic between him and Sonic, which combined with his dynamics with other existing characters and possibly Shadow (if he appears in 4), wouldn’t leave enough room for the other character (most likely Amy) being introduced in the same movie. I know it sucks to think about it, but let’s face it, the sequels tends to put more narrative emphasis on the rivals/antagonists over the allies. The only exception to this is the Knuckles miniseries, which barely handles having just one CGI character as a main star and the main villain himself, the Buyer, being rather underdeveloped compared to his associates.
I apologise if this is too long to read. I just need to explain why I don’t think the fourth movie would be a combo between CD + Heroes. Don’t get me wrong though, there’s still a chance that the SCU would have Metal Sonic and a plot inspired by Heroes. Just not right after the movie featuring Shadow's debut.
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Never apologize for sharing thoughts and rambles with me. There’s no need for that. I always encourage y’all to share what you think and feel with me. And I’m very glad that you did. Thank you for sharing this with me. I think these are really good points that you’ve shared with me.😊
In short, I agree. It’s also important to note that there really isn’t a set formula for these movies. They can pick and choose whatever games that want to use next in order to tell the story. At this point, I think that anything is possible. I’m very excited to see what the future holds.
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An introduction to DeVita
Do you want to learn all about the AOMG artist DeVita? This article will cover everything you need to know about the third female member to join the labels roster.
The content of this article is also available in video format, embedded at the bottom of this article.
Prelude
In early April of 2020, the Korean hip-hop label AOMG ambiguously announced that a new artist was signing onto the label. This label was grounded by the Korean-American triple-threat; Jay Park, who’s also one of its executives. This is a label with a very organic feel and artist-oriented nature, which stands out compared to many other music labels.
On April 3rd, the label’s official Instagram account posted a video. It was titled, “Who’s The Next AOMG?” where fellow AOMG members talked about this upcoming recruit. They sprinkled small hints and details by sharing their thoughts on the artist without mentioning who.
Around the world, fans immediately began speculating on who this could be. The major consensus was that it had to be the solo artist Lee Hi, due to reporting like this: “AOMG responds ‘nothing is confirmed’ to reports of Lee Hi signing on with the label”
A few other names got thrown in fan speculations like Hanbin (B.I), previous member of IKON, Jvcki Wai, and MOON (문) aka Moon Sujin. This despite a few of these already being signed to other labels.
On April 6th, three days later, the account was updated with a part two. This time dropping more hints, which would exclude many names from fan speculations.
On the 7th of April, the label’s official Instagram account posted a short teaser. The video sported an 80’s retrofuturistic setting, with a woman turned from the camera, dressed in all black, rocking braids, and some glistening high-heels. As it seemed to be a female, some were now certain that it had to be Lee Hi. A small few actually guessed correctly that the one who would be joining AOMG would be Ms DeVita.
Finally on April 9th, it was official! She debuted with the music video, from which the teaser clips was taken from, EVITA!, which accompanied the release of her EP, CRÈME.
What does the name DeVita mean?
The name DeVita, draws inspiration and meaning from two things. Firstly, Eva Perón – also known as Evita – who was Argentina’s former First Lady. When Chloe was learning about Eva’s life, it inspired her to combine “Devil” and “Evita”, thus creating “DeVita”. The name signifies the duality of how both Eva Perón and DeVita could be perceived. Either being a devil, or an angel depending on the eye of the beholder. Secondly, Salvatore Di Vita, a character from Cinema Paradiso, was also a source of inspiration.
An introduction to DeVita
Chloe Cho – now known under the artist name DeVita – was born and raised in South Korea, until the age of eleven. In 2009, she moved to Chicago, where she would learn English.
In 2013, she went back to Korea and participated in the third season of the show; K-pop Star. A talent show, where the “big three” (the three largest music labels in Korea) hosts auditions to find the next big k-pop star. However she didn’t win, therefore neither got signed.
Later on, she returned to Chicago and graduated high school. After reflecting on what she wanted to do next, she decided to make music. In 2014, her pursuit to become an artist brought her to the talent show Kollaboration. On this show, she performed covers and actually ended up being a finalist. Despite her talents, she did not triumph as the winner of the show.
Not letting these losses stop her, she started releasing music on Soundcloud. The earliest release I could find, Halfway Love (Ruff), was from 2016. Her catalogue consisted of both covers and original music.
One day, Kirin, an artist and CEO of the music label 8balltown Records, was introduced to DeVita’s music. He liked what he heard and the two linked up. In May of 2018, WEKEYZ, one of 8balltown’s producer duos released a track titled Sugar. This track featured both DeVita, and the AOMG rapper Ugly Duck. This was the beginning of many collaborations to come.
On August 28th of 2018, just a few months later, AOMG released Sugar (Puff Daehee Mix).
This was a remix done by Puff Daehee, the alter ego of Kirin. Along with this track, it was accompanied by a music video starring Kirin, DeVita, and Ugly Duck. For most people, this was their first time seeing DeVita.
DeVita continued doing features on many songs by Korean artists while creating a little buzz for herself. There’s one notable feature, which could be seen as an important milestone in her career. That is her feature on the track Noise, from AOMG artist Woo Won Jae’s project, titled af.
In a tweet a few days after the release of CRÈME, she shared the significance of this moment.
“I was still making minimum wage working at a restaurant back when Noise dropped- I wrote my part during my shift on the back of this receipt paper. This was about a year and a half ago. A little bit after that I got a call from Pumpkin at 3am Chicago time. He said Jay wanted to meet in Philly in 4 hours. They put me on a plane and the rest is history.”
The phone call she mentioned in her tweet, about Jay wanting to meet, must have been made around September 2018. Jay was performing in Philadelphia at the time. The moment they met in Philadelphia was actually captured through a photo of the two. However, this picture ended up getting removed later on.
Fast forward a few months and Jay had just released his Ask About Me EP. The project focused on a western audience, so he went to the States on a promo run. During his visit, he also met up with DeVita once again, as can be seen here.
Finally, on April 9th, her being signed to AOMG was officially announced and she debuted with her EP titled CRÈME. Her joining AOMG, looked like something that happened pretty naturally. The vast majority of artists she had collaborated on tracks with happened to be AOMG members. Getting comfortable with the AOMG family, likely made the decision to join crystal clear.
Artistically
Just a quick look at her body of work thus far, a majority of it is in English. However, she has no issues singing in Korean, as proven by her feature on Code Kunst’s; Let u in. The tone in her voice has this sort of mixture of many singers, a melting pot of sorts. It reminds me of Audrey Nuna, SAAY, H.E.R, some vocal riffs from Dinah Jane, and at times, just a tiny bit of Ariana Grande.
As an artist, she’s still in the early stages of carving out her own unique sound and style. There’s incredible potential here, but her distinct identity is not completely there yet. I see before me a caterpillar that within a couple years, will transform into a butterfly, with its own identifiable pattern to spread its wings out on.
From what she’s shown so far, I would say she seems most comfortable doing R&B and soul music. However, beyond a quick description I prefer to refrain from categorizing her. Mostly because artists generally feel limited when categorized. More importantly, because we have no idea what she has in store for the future.
Debut EP: CRÈME
CRÈME is DeVita’s “crème de la crème”. She constantly modified the tracklist to present her debut project in a way that held her personal standard; essentially presenting us her best tracks. The result is CRÈME, which consists of five tracks, with a runtime of fourteen minutes altogether.
This EP showcases the fact that she is a competent songwriter, able to write some soulful, emotional ballads. It is completely in English and all the tracks are written by her, telling both life stories of her own and that of others. A majority of the production was handled by her “musical soulmate”; TE RIM, but other notable names, like Code Kunst show up as well.
Tracks:
Movies, introduces the project in a very gentle manner. In the track, DeVita paints a picture of a criminal couple, getting a rush, by committing crimes together. The lyrics feel inspired by movies like Bonnie and Clyde. My initial thoughts were that, for some ears, it could possibly be “too” calm as an opener. It doesn’t demand attention the way EVITA! does. Simply put, it’s not a bad track. I would just have put this track later on in the EP.
EVITA!, is something different compared to what I hear from others in the K-R&B lane. I love the 80’s aesthetic in both the track and music video. Sonically, the nostalgic saxophone riffs, warm lush synth pads, thumping bass line, results in a trip back to the 80s. With this recipe, topped with DeVita’s “current” contemporary soul and R&B voice makes for an interesting combination. The music video had that futuristic 80’s look with the neon colors, and I loved how the guns she played around with looked a lot like the “Needlers” from the Halo franchise. The title is once again just like DeVita’s name, an ode to the controversial Eva Perón. The instrumental was originally used by TE RIM, the producer of the track in 2017. His version has the same title as DeVita’s version and I recommend giving that one a listen as well, as it has a different feel to it. This track was definitely one of the highlights of the EP.
All About You, is a simple yet beautiful piano love ballad. Originating from her own tales of love, her vocals effortlessly capture what she felt during these moments.
1974 Live, is yet another ballad, but this time, with a calm guitar backing, playing a poppier R&B chord progression. DeVita’s voice is given a lot of space to be in the center of the track. As soon as I heard this track I became curious. What was the significance of this year, which would have her title the track as such? My questions were left unanswered… until the EP had marinated a while, when she tweeted: “1974 Live is about Christine Chubbuck”. In case you’re unfamiliar, Christine Chubbuck was a television news reporter, who made history in 1974. She was the first person to commit suicide live on air. According to her mother Christine’s suicide would on paper be due to an unfullfilling personal life. All throughout her life, she had experienced unreciprocated love. With this information tying back to the track, it becomes a lot less ambiguous and reveals a more cohesive narrative.
Show Me, is the final track of the EP, featuring immaculate production from the talented CODE KUNST. The sound is very moody, which fits her voice like a glove. This is my favorite performance on the entire EP, both lyrically and vocally. The lyrics present someone who’s fed up dealing with men, who talk the talk but don’t walk the walk. Now she’s looking for love with someone who’s honest and “real”.
With the project being a year old now, it has already gotten her nominated for both Rookie of the Year along with EVITA being nominated for Best R&B & Soul Track in the 18th iteration of the Korean Music Awards.
A majority of listeners seemed to enjoy the project. Many seem to be in love with her voice judging by the endless amounts of praise she has received, often described as painfully addicting, soothing, smooth, and so on.
I also asked a friend who’s a huge fan of Korean music, especially the hiphop and r&b scene to share her thoughts on the project. Here’s what she said:
"This whole project is empowering, in particular the tracks Show Me and EVITA! DeVita being a new artist, managed to impress me and many more listeners through this EP. As mentioned earlier, empowering lyrics with unique melodies and beats. Especially with the track EVITA! The fact that 1974 Live and EVITA! was referring to, two historically important women, is something that I love. This is one of my favorite EP:s of 2020 and DeVita is now included in my list of favorite artists." @Haonsmom
From what I’ve seen, only a few have been vocal about not really being too fond of the project. Some were left a bit disappointed, as they were expecting more hip-hop and R&B from an AOMG artist. The lack of “danceable” tracks was also a concern to some. Despite these criticisms, one thing was always mentioned; the girl has a beautiful voice and is obviously talented.
After listening to this EP, I hear a lot of potential. Being an EP with just five tracks, it definitely avoids overstaying its welcome. It’s brief enough to allow a listen through the entire project, no matter what you’re doing. My favorite tracks would have to be Show Me and EVITA!, but I found the whole project to be enjoyable. This EP is sprinkled with lovely vocal performances and simple but captivating production. I do still stand by my opinion that Movies would have fit better later in the tracklist if you’re chasing that mainstream ear.
I think the way EVITA! kicks you in the face, demanding attention, would’ve been a better fit as the opening track. In contrast to the other tracks, the energy level is unique, making the placement feel odd as the rest of the tracks have a chill vibe. All in all, this project gave me a taste of the “crème” but left me with a curious yearning for what this chef will whip up for dessert.
Bright future ahead
The addition of more female artists to the AOMG roster was much needed. Hoody was the first and only female member for about four years. This was the case up until late 2019, where she was then joined by sogumm, who had just won AOMG’s audition program called SignHere. Now funnily enough after DeVita, Lee Hi actually did end up officially signing with AOMG on July 22, last year.
Based on what I’ve heard during Devita’s Kollaboration days, she has improved immensely. This topped with her leaving the impression of someone passionate about their craft, bodes well for what's to come. She seems to be someone who'll constantly evolve.
Following an artist, at the early stages of their career, is something that I always find exciting. With such a lovely debut, I cannot wait to see what the future has in store for DeVita.
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So three hours ago like it said on my phone...and I’m on my main computer right now. I was intrigued and confused when I saw this voice actors name.
Turns out, the actual David Sobolov liked this. And just checked out it’s Twitter, it’s him. He’s a voice actor known for a lot of roles. Especially this one here with him as Blitzwing from Bumblebee 2018. He’s also voiced Gorilla Grodd The Flash show and Shockwave in Transformers Prime...I also know him as Vasquez from Call Of Duty 4 Modern Warfare.
It feels kind of weird an ACTUAL voice actor liked this. And I’m thinking...I don’t wanna make a rumor...
That does this mean something? Because I do want Metal Sonic in a Sonic movie...or does David just like that I dug this...it’s just so weird that he liked this this year...
I don’t wanna make more speculation. I’ll ramble about it in reblogs maybe.
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