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hereticcryptid · 3 years ago
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Read this before hating on me for liking Severus Snape.
Read the whole thing.
Droped a branch on Petunia
Acidental magic, mate. No one can be blamed for that.
Hated the marauders
The marauders were tormenting him on a daily basis. No wonder why.
Tryed to get the marauders expelled
They were tormenting him, one of them had attemped to kill him and sexually assaulted him. No wonder why, in a decent school they would be expelled if not arrested after the werewolf incident.
Came up with sectumsempra
Legit defense. Marauders used illegal harmful hexes on him. And they had attemped to kill him. It's just me, but I would carry around a knife too if someone tryed to kill me. And if he really wanted to harm, he wouldn't bother to make a counter-curse.
Hanged out with future death eaters
You mean his housemates? The people he was living with? He would be even more an outcast if he didn't. Than he would be left with no friends after the mudblood incident. Not to say that, being pro-muggle and a halfblood, he would very likely get killed on his sleep.
Called Lily a mudblood
Yes. In a traumatising and humiliating moment, while being sexually assaulted. And she had to keep herself from smiling. I would call her a bitch, at least.
Believed in blood purity
Haha nope. No, he didn't. "Don't say that word!"
Interested in dark arts
So, if I like seing blood in movies, I am a psycopath? If I like manipulation tecnics, am I a evil master manipulator? If I like war tecnics, will I start WW3? Dark arts are hella interesting. I would study them too.
Joined the DEs
Out of despair and hopelessness. He had lost his only conection to the light, he had all the reasons to resent muggles and they were the only people who valued & respected him. Besides, he was a bullied poor halfblood outcast, the perfect victim of cults. And he defected after a few years, spending the rest of his life trying to bring them down.
Told the profecy
Man was a death eater working for a mind reading madman. Want did you want him to do?
Bullied the students
Maybe he was a little mean. He was the best teacher tho. Never endanged anyone's life, until year 7 where the choice was go to the forest or get tortured. Not like Miss McGonnagal who sent them to the dark forest (and locked Neville in the corridor while there was an allegate mass murderer in the school), or like Mr. Lupin who was a danger himself & covered the said mass murederer.
Attemped to get Lupin fired and outed him
First, he didn't out him. The ministry already knew, the anti-werewolf law already existed, if he had quit without being outed, he would most likely not get a job anyway. Lupin wasn't fired, he quit. Second, no wonder why he wanted him fired! He was already in a triggering place, and then Dumbledore decided to hire the person that almost killed him! Besides, as a werewolf, Lupin was endangering the students. And he covered for Sirius, an allegate mass murderer, for the sake of an old friendship. And you guys should be thankfull that he made Lupin quit, if you don't remember, DADA was cursed. If Lupin didn't quit, probably something worse would happen.
Threw a jar at Harry
Man had lost his temper. Harry had just witnessed the most embarassing thing that happened in his life. Besides, if he wanted the jar to hit Harry, it would've. And not even Harry was mad about this, so, who are we to be?
And now... let's dive into the fanon ocean! Yay...
(Until now this was by chronological order, but with fanon that's hard so it won't be)
Was evil from the beggining
No. At the beggining, he was just a poor abused inocent kid, who was made "evil" by the bullying and lack of support system.
Was toxic
Welp, sorry to ruin your fun, but if there was anyone toxic in that friendship, it was Lily. Dismissing the bullying, not listening to him, ignoring her duties as a perfect to stop that kind of stuff, blaming him for what Mulciber did to Mary, marrying his childhood bullie (and man who harrassed her constantly!). What did Sev do? Hanged out with his housemates? Lily only brought him pain.
Wouldn't give a shit if Voldy targeted the Longbottoms
Can't fight this one. It is true. But you really don't want to play the if game with me.
Told Voldy to spare Lily, but not Harry nor James
You really act like if he told Voldy to kill Harry and James. He didn't. He simply asked Voldy to spare the person he cared about. He would be asked many questions that don't have an answer at all if he asked him to spare James, and straight up killed if he asked for Harry. And I personally wouldn't give a shit about my bullie and his son. Would you?
Would be happy if J&H were dead
This one is the stupidiest. Are you for real? Lily's death made him (further) depressed and suicidal. But dead family and alive Lily? Wouldn't be able to even look at her. Dunno about you, but I would kill myself if I got the love of my life's family killed.
Was obsessed
*annoyed grunt* We've debunked this so many times... 1. If he was obsessed, the obsession would've died with Lily. You don't give your life away for obsession. 2. He was a potions prodigy. He could easely feed Lily amortentia or take felix felicis. But he didn't. 3. He left her alone after the fallout. Just that says everything. 4. So you are not allowed to grieve? To be depressed after someone you loved died?
The classic would r@p3 Harry if he was a ginger female
Haha... I'm scared of you. Genually scared of you. First, having a p3d0phily teory about kids books says more about you than about the target of the teory. Second, what would you do if a miniature of the person you loved and helped killing appeared in front of you? He wouldn't be able to teach with her in the room. Too triggering.
Was a n@zi
Death eaters are not n@zis. They are a terrorist group/cult. But n@zis? They are kids throwing a tantum when compared to them. Never left England, would welcome "jewishes" (muggleborns) or "half jewishes" (halfbloods) if they were particulary gifted or/and shared they beliefs. Oh! And that stupid myth that Hitl3r is half jewish! Does this sound like the nazis? I don't think so.
It wasn't bullying
Yes it was. 4/1. It is bullying. Rich atractive kids against poor ugly kid. It is bullying. No suport system vs no need of suport system. It IS bullying. Sirius didn't deny it. They said James had to change. It is bullying.
James changed
He didn't. He kept hexing Severus on Lily's back. Dieing for your family doesn't mean you're good. Being on the right side doesn't mean you're good.
Did I miss anything, fellow homosnapiens? If I did, tell me so I can add.
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hereticcryptid · 4 years ago
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Yes, honey, there are. There is a entire corner of fandoom for us.
Read the whole thing
No, Mulciber did not use an unforgivable. It was dark magic, besides, dark magic is not always harmful.
"Several dark spells" Just sectumsempra, actually. I would carry around a knife around if someone had attemped to kill me, but that's just me.
He was hopeless, helpless, had no one to turn to. Light side made his life living. I wouldn't join the side that had the people who attemped to kill me, who sexually assaulted me, who bullied me mercilessly and who turned a blind eye on it. But again, that's just me not taking shit from anyone :p
Man's a death eater, what you wanted him to do? Hide the prophecy from a mind reading saddistic madman? Who happened to be his master?
Why all this if's, it didn't happen, it doesn't matter. I could write an entire essay on how Sev would turn diferent IF the marauders weren't the dicks they were.
Snape was not obsessed with Lily, although I could explain this, I am not in the mood, so just have the patronus. Patronuses only change out of true, pure love. It doesn't happen out of obsession.
For Merlin's sake! Being in the right side doesn't makes you a good person! Dumbledore's a manipulative bitch even tho being the leader of the light.
If I remember right, James just threw his wand in the sofa? And you thinking he could've defeated Voldy *laugh* how pathetic...
He would feel sorry for Lily. Maybe not Harry, but Lily, he would. He already had clear signs of self-loathing. Dead Lily? Made him (further) depressed and suicidal. Alive Lily but dead family due to him? He can't handle it. It would've been way worst. Lily would try to kill him and he wouldn't care at all. How would you feel if you had gotten the woman you love's family killed? I can't say, I never fell that deep in love, but I would fucking kill myself if I got the family of one of my dearest friends killed. But again, why so many if's?
James was not just rude, he was fucking saddistic. Understood? It's clear that he had pleasure in seing Severus suffer.
There is no canon evidence that he grew out of it, none. It's canon that he still hexed Sev when Lily wasn't looking, tho. Sirius himself said it. Doing the bare minimum IS NOT character development.
Abuse? Lmao, he was the only teacher that never endangered a student's life or never killed anything.
Neville's boggart? Irrelevant. If it was Bellatrix who had just been in the room, his boggart would turn into her. There is psycological proof that you can have many diferent fears.
He told Harry awful stuff about James? As he should. I wouldn't have one of my students worshipping their dead parents if the said dead parents had made my life living hell. But again, as I already said, just me not taking shit from anyone.
Was awful to Hermione and insulted her many times. Well, two times actually. And the second one is debatable. Called her an insuferrable know-it-all? He did. And he was right, even tho he shouldn't had said it on her face. Mocked her teeth? Maybe he did, that's up for intrepertation, but he could be saying that he saw no diference bettween Hermione's and Crabble's (was it Goyle?) state.
No, it doesn't excuse his actions. But it makes us understand the reason he did it.
Are you fucking trying to compare trauma? I tell you the diference, then. All the people that you listed here had a support sistem. They had friends.
Yes, Sirius had a horrible family. But you know what he also had? Half the school worshipping him.
Yes, Harry was abused for years. But when he went to Hogwarts he reliesed that he was rich. And famous. And nearly everyone loved him. And cared for him. He had real friends.
Nev was abused by Augusta. Well, I am not sure, also up for debate, but she did shatter Nev's self esteem. But again, Nev had friends. He had support, something that Sev never had.
Yes, Luna did watch her mom die, and that must had been really traumatising. But she not just had friends, as she had a loving father. As for the bullying, I might be wrong, but I don't think she gave a single fuck.
Where am I going? Exatly, nowhere, because you can't compare trauma nor you can expect that everyone reacts the same way. Periodt. Understood?
Now, unless you want more angry snovers ridiculing you, get this of our tags.
wait, there are people out there who like snape better than james??????
remember the time snape's classmates used an unforgivable curse on mary macdonald and when lily confronted snape about it he said it was funny and compared it to marauders' pranks? let's also not forget that he made several dark spells during his time at hogwarts. and he joined voldemort because he wanted to. no one forced him to become a death eater, he did it himself. lily was a muggle born and death eaters wanted to kill her and other muggle borns, but snape was fine with that? he knew what voldemort was doing and what he was capable of but he still joined him. he told voldemort about the prophecy and if voldemort wanted to kill neville snape would be fine with that. if voldemort killed just harry snape would be fine with that. but oh voldemort killed lily, the woman snape was obsessing over and suddenly all is forgotten? and that whole time james potter, a wealthy pureblood, was a part of the order of the phoenix and he actively fought voldemort. remember how voldemort killed james when james didn't have his wand? so james was killed, not defeated. and he died not knowing if his wife or his son are alive and well. he sacrificed himself. and again, if james had died and lily had lived do you think snape would even feel a little tiny bit sorry for lily and her son? no. he would be proud.
and don't use that "james was a bully" line to argue this right now. james maybe was rude toward snape during his time at hogwarts, and yes that was not okay. after hogwarts, james grew out of his bully phase, but snape grew into his. he used his position as a teacher to abuse his students to the point where neville's worst fear wasn't the person who tortured his parents, but snape, his professor. he was rude to harry, told him awful stuff about his father who harry had never met. snape was awful to hermione and insulted her many times. and many many other students were abused by him.
the fact that he had a bad childhood doesn't excuse his actions. sirius had a horrible family and was disowned, harry was abused for years, neville was abused by his grandma and his parents were in a mental hospital, luna watched her mother die, many people had bad childhoods but grew up to be good people.
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hereticcryptid · 3 years ago
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Today I had a little chat with my friend about Harry Potter and the thing drifted to Snape.
You know what happened?
He went like "Wait, wait, wait, people hate Snape?" And I was like "My dude, 7/8 of the fandoom."
He was truly shocked at this.
We had a little debate like what we have in snapedoom, he got even more annnoyed when I told him we get called abuse apologists and n@zi sympatisers, and it ended up like "I will never trust a marauder stan"
Merlin blessed me with 5 potterhead friends, wich of none hates Snape :)
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