#skrull army

[vertigoartgore]

Jason Pearson's (rest in peace) cover for 2008's Black Panther #39.

One of the best stories Jason "Scalped" Aaron ever wrote at Marvel.

[ghost-mantis]

Headcanon that Skrall as a species are essentially doomed on Spherus Magna.

Even though they are warriors of the highest caliber, 100,000 years of war, starvation, and the loss of every female of their species leads to a slow, inevitable decline.

Ruthlessly culling any member of their species that wasn't a high-class warrior meant that there was no investment in education or skilled labor. The only way their society functioned was to rely on pillaging and slave labor to obtain food, medicine, and essentially everything that didn't involve stabbing.

Given their very rigid social system, it didn't seem like female Skrall had much say or power in their society. On Bara Manga, the second they did get mental powers they were considered a threat and banished to the wilds. Canonically, the male and female Skrall also separated into two societies on Bota Manga.

After that point, the population replacement rate was 0 and the male Skrall were in an endless war with the Agori for resources. While they never really lost fights, that didn't mean that they weren't losing people to disease, injury, and old age.

And then Mata Nui came along and curb-stomped the only leader-cast member of their species they had left. The remaining male Skrall dispersed into smaller groups led by named Skrall or high-tier casts.

And then Teridax came along.

A huge portion of their remaining population was atomized when Teridax blasted their home in the Black Spike Mountains. The remaining groups decided to join the free-for-all fight between the Agori, Toa, Rahkshi, and Skakdi.

And even as amazing warriors in a normal fight, there's no way the Skrall did anything but get their shit kicked in against armies of beings with ranged supernatural powers. A sword is great, but not much use when all your opponents can do things like suck the oxygen from your lungs, or summon a mountant to crush you without breaking a sweat.

Plus, every Agori and Glatorian hates their guts and wouldn't hesitate to gut any Skrull injured or trapped by the absolute free-for-all that was Bara Magna.

Anyone who survived the bloodbath and subsequent reformation of Spherus Magna, including adding Bota Magna Skrull to their ranks, is still looking at a very grim future.

The Skrall are now outclassed by almost every sentient species (and most wildlife) on the planet in terms of power and resources. Their home and leader cast are gone, and they have no slaves left (all killed or emancipated by Toa) to produce goods or labor. Their species is still split into two societies by gender and getting together long enough to have kids probably isn't in the cards.

A few Skrall are hired on by the Dark Hunters, but given their lack of powers, they would be best as cannon fodder, or as combat trainers to beings with greater powers.

Every other remaining male Skrall group is going to have their shit kicked in by every other group the second they try to cause trouble. And the Baterra are probably still picking off warriors whenever and wherever they find them.

Their population has plummeted over the last 100,000 years and the remaining members of the species are essentially the last generation.

The best hope their species has is that the female Skrall, being less militant and having no mental powers left, join with Agori or Glatorian society. They might be closely related enough that they can have children with the Glatorian or Agori.

If so, any future Skrall are at most 50-50 genetically split with another species. Subsequent generations will have thinner and thinner Skrall genetics, and they'll be extinct as an individual species.

Given that they were absolute bastards as a species and society in-canon, that might be for the best. Banishing every member of your society that can have children, and then going to endless war with every one of your neighbors forever is essentially biological suicide.

[cap-ironman]

2024 Captain America/Iron Man Reverse Bang Masterlist

After months filled with creativity being crafted into fanworks, this year's Reverse Bang is finished! Thank you to all of our fantastic participants—congratulations on posting, and we hope you had a great time working together, whether this was your first Cap-IM RBB or not!

Here’s the final list of our 12 fantastic artwork entries and their accompanying works, all created specifically for this event. Enjoy exploring the new Stevetony content, and remember to show your appreciation through kudos, comments and sharing if you haven't already!

Mind the warnings for each individual work on their AO3 page, please.

A Brooklynite Abroad by BladeoftheNebula (G, MCU, art) ★ Team Masterpost

Found My Heart Wandering by ItsMayBiTheWay (M, MCU, 2972 words)

The scenery, for lack of better words, is simply breathtaking. The colors of the sunset before him, as he crosses his legs on the wooden pier, reach inside Steve’s sternum and cradle his heart gently, the soft pinks and blues swaying in the sky to create the perfect shade of lilac. They fill in the cracks like the ancient art of kintsugi, proudly emphasizing all the scars with gold- you are better for all the scars you take, Steven, it shows you have loved, it shows you have lost- it all shows you have lived; instead of wasting your heart away, the voice of his mother repeats. Backpacking across Europe for inspiration for his upcoming art show after a bad breakup; the last thing Steve expects to find is love.

caught red-handed by jetblackfeeling (T, 616, art) ★ Team Masterpost

Red Strings of Fate (Tying Me To You) by ItsMayBiTheWay (E, 616, 5035 words)

It should be uneventful. Steve has done this a million times, one way or another. Being used in public service announcements and publicity for the army came with the shield long before the ice did, and just because they changed mediums and became online in this century has made no difference for Steve. Shaking his head, Steve physically tries to chase the memories of last night away. He puts on his most charming smile- one that Tony always tells him that makes his knees go weak, and takes a deep breath, promising himself that he won’t think about Tony until he ends the live stream. These people are tuning in for a good cause, his whole attention is the least he can give back to them in exchange. Well, things rarely go according to plan, huh?

Situationship by Neverever (T, 616, 6832 words)

Steve isn't surprised that a clip of Tony appearing on his zoom meeting just wearing his thong went viral. He is surprised that his friends all think that it was a really weird way of making their relationship public. The thing is, he and Tony aren't dating and really aren't in any relationship.

A Dragon's Pride by massivespacewren (G, 616/MCU, art) ★ Team Masterpost

A Dragon's Pride by Naivelittleprincess (G, MCU, 14436 words)

Sir Steven has a great task ahead. Bring King Dreykov the heart of the dragon that took Princess Natalia and the knight would be rewarded with the truth. But all his expectations are thrown off the back of his horse when the dragon whisks him away to a distant land, where he just might end up finding what he had been missing for all those years of his lonesome wanderings. A home.

Etch Your Kiss Like Acid On My Lips by Zappedbysnow and Pia Bartolini (E, MCU, art, 8396 words) ★ Team Masterpost

A Skrull, an explosion, and a vat of lethally corrosive goo. - - - - - Or, that time when Steve lost his clothes, his left eyebrow, his dignity, and a boatload of baggage relating to one, Tony Stark. The forced proximity smut nobody asked for.

Gift of Consequence by oluka (G, MCU, art) ★ Team Masterpost

Gift of Consequence by KandiSheek (M, MCU, 15117 words)

Steve remembers the old wives' tale of the dragon in the mountain, sleeping on a pile of gold. He has never paid it any mind, but when his mother gets sick and time and money is of the essence... he might reconsider believing in fairytales.

I prayed on the unmovable by tossha and Missy_dee811 (T, MCU, art, 5177 words) ★ Team Masterpost

“There’s no way anyone survived out here,” said Steve. “That’s rich, coming from you,” said Tony. “You suspect he’s here; I gathered as much. That’s why you put together this team and why you’re tight-lipped about what’s inside that base,” he said. “I’ll admit, it’s a smart plan. At best, he’s here. At worst, we’ve learned the ins and outs of a Hydra base and hopefully, the location of another.” She looked up and met his eyes. “And what if I think he’s here?” “Are the rumors true?” “That depends, which rumors?"

A Kiss [ART] by Fluffypanda (G, 616/Warp World, art) ★ Team Masterpost

Ordinary Days by Neverever (T, 616/Warp World, 5275 words)

Sigurd cares for Stephen and Stephen cares for Sigurd. But Stephen can not be sure if his feelings only come from memories of emotions from other lives.

Lost Self [ART] by Fluffypanda (G, 616, art) ★ Team Masterpost

a four-dimensional object by veslarkinson (T, 616, 14722 words)

The year is 1975: the stonewall riots were only six years ago, the CD has yet to be invented, and Tony Stark is taking his first steps into trans-humanism. >> initializing(extremis-setup)...

President Rogers by AvengersNewB (T, MCU, art) ★ Team Masterpost

Codename: Liberty by SomeSortofItalianRoast (M, MCU, 11282 words)

United States President Steve Rogers is a Medal of Honor recipient. Billionaire lobbyist Tony Stark once sold arms to the Taliban (it wasn’t on purpose, Pepper!). It’s a match made… in the Oval Office? President Steve Rogers can’t stand billionaire lobbyist Tony Stark. Bad press between them requires them to work together and pretend to be friends. They slowly realize that they have a lot in common, and end up in a secret relationship, which, of course, gets out.

Stars, Stripes, and Unconfirmed Sources by ashes0909 (E, UNIVERSE, 13600 words)

BREAKING NEWS: Bucky Barnes, Press Secretary: I have answered this question multiple times, Stark and the President met at the Climate Conference over a year ago and became friends thereafter. That’s all there is to say on the matter. Next question.

Redemption by MassiveSpaceWren (G, MCU, art) ★ Team Masterpost

Redemption by Sedna (truthiness_aura) (T, MCU, 17863 words)

Steven of Stormwind, Paladin of the Silver Hand, has finally made one too many important nobles angry. Now he’s been sent halfway across the world to assist the Alliance’s new members, the draenei. And he’s been assigned to accompany the strangest of them all - Tony, an artificer - on a goodwill mission across the new territory.

Sunshine on Leith by KandiSheek and AvengersNewB (E, MCU, art, 16889 words) ★ Team Masterpost

With the new government law prohibiting the employment of unbonded omegas, Tony has no hope of keeping his job at SHIELD, knowing full well that he has little chance of ever finding a mate. That is until he's officially claimed by a very special alpha: Steven Grant Rogers, also known as Captain America.

Wine and Dine Me by Neverever and BladeoftheNebula (E, MCU, art, 5289 words) ★ Team Masterpost

Four times Steve tries to convince Tony he's ready to put out + the one time it works 😏

[yesbutmakeitgay]

Once Upon A Time I Used To Know A Girl

Chapter 10

Carol Danvers x Reader

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Summary: A peek into what Carol has been up to during these trying times.

Angst, Slow Burn, Amnesia.

Word count: 778

A/N: Officially halfway through the fic!!!!

I Tried To Write, But It’s Killing Me Inside

Carol lands her ship on the strange planet and veils it, you both get out all geared up and ready for the last minute mission. The place is hot and sandy with big rocks scattered around, it almost looks deserted.

The Captain scans the area with her eyes, "We should split up to cover more terrain," she instructs, "keep your comms on and meet back here in 15." You give her a nod and do as you're told.

Carol starts walking after she sees you leave, sensing something off about the environment. A couple of minutes go by and she hears you through her ear piece, "Carol, I think someone's here," you whisper.

"Send me your coordinates." She receives some signal but it's too choppy to understand, "Can you hear me?" Her voice growing desperate, "Angel?"

Static.

She turns around as quickly as she can to get back to you, but when she does, she finds a small army of full body armored soldiers waiting for her. They start charging at her with weapons of all sorts and she gets to work on every one of them. When she thinks she's almost done, backup shows up with even bigger weapons. It takes her more than 15 minutes to get through all of them, but when she does she flies back to your meeting point.

She arrives, but doesn't find you there, panic starts to set in her mind. She follows your footprints in the sand until they disappear somewhere down the path. She keeps going and sees a body in the distance, lying against a rock. Upon closer inspection she realizes it's you, unconscious, fully bruised, head bleeding, uniform destroyed.

"Angel?" Her voice is drowning in despair, when you don’t show a reaction she picks you up and rushes you back to the ship. She pilots it as fast as she can to get you to the compound.

"Please wake up." But the next time you did, you didn't know who she was.

Carol takes the Skrull memory device off and gets out of bed, Goose following behind her. She's wearing sweatpants and a Nine Inch Nails t-shirt that she probably hasn't changed all week, there are dark circles in her eyes.

She's been off duty since her last mission and she hasn't left her Louisiana home at all in that time. Her ship is parked in the backyard, veiled and untouched.

As she gets to the kitchen her cell phone starts ringing, she doesn't even look at who's calling before she silences it. "They keep calling," she rasps to Goose, annoyed. She makes coffee and puts some takeout leftovers in the microwave.

They sit at the table with breakfast, "I shouldn't have told her to split up," she mutters into her coffee, "it's all my fault." Goose just meows in return, already having had this conversation everyday for the past few weeks, "I should have known." Carol can't seem to think about anything else, she feels crushing guilt and grief for what happened, but also can't muster the courage to face you.

She picks up a newspaper in an attempt to distract herself. She blinks a few times to get her stinging eyes to focus, but gets stuck rereading the same sentence over and over again, failing to get her brain to process the words. Another call pulls her out of her thoughts, coming through her intergalactic device, "Val," she grumbles, before turning it down. After that, she gives up on the newspaper.

When she's done eating she takes the rest of her coffee to the porch to get some fresh air, Goose sits right beside her, "I should have gotten to her faster." The memory of the mission never leaving her mind, always trying to find a way it could have gone differently, "How did I let this happen?" She’s all out of tears, traces of the past weeks still marking her cheeks.

A third call starts ringing, this time, on her landline. She runs to stop it, but she's too late, the call goes to voicemail, she's about to delete it until she hears Kamala's voice, it is sweet and caring and full of kindness.

"Hey, I know you know we've been calling, please pick up, please, so we can talk. Whatever it is you're trying to achieve, it's not working, you're hurting her a lot more by not being here. You can just come by the compound, we can set something up. You owe it to her. Okay, um, goodbye."

Before even thinking it she pulls the phone cable out of the wall, regretting it immediately, "Fuck!" she yells into the empty house.

Chapter 11

Clap if you missed Carol Danvers!

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[maxwell-grant]

So, which of the alien empires do you like better, the Kree or the Skrulls?

I feel mostly the same way about either, in that I don't particularly care for them in their own right, there is plenty I outright dislike most of them, but they can be useful worldbuilding elements to have around and have led to decent things over the years. I guess if I had to draw a straw here I'd say the Skrulls, but the Skrulls have more asterisks attached. I think the Skrulls have aged poorly overall and seem to be more trouble than they're worth.

It simply was inevitable that the Fantastic Four, at the moment of their inception, would have to deal with little green spacemen bent on world domination, these being shapeshifting Red Scare allegories just being part-and-parcel of what alien invasion stories are generally about at core (well that and antisemitism). Invading armies made of alien races are just kind of grandfathered into superhero settings at this point, like one of those things you have to address or do at some point. I'd say my biggest issue with the Skrulls isn't so much that they exist, and less that they are made to embody ideas I find politically or socially or morally reprehensible (although that is an issue, and Secret Invasion was an abysmally fucking ugly chapter in Marvel history, I'll link these articles by Ritesh Babu and Kelly Kanayama who can better elaborate why), as much as I think they really fall apart as a concept that's meant to exist in a shared universe where everybody's gonna be approaching them with different sensibilities and everybody who does so is gonna do some course-correcting on the previous takes to make their new one stand. They are living breathing allegorical embodiments of The Other who are also meant to pose an actual verifiable threat to the planet, and when you treat that idea seriously, when it’s no longer the 60s and this stuff is no longer given a pass for being charmingly antiquated, what do you do with it?

Are the Skrulls refugees? Are they imperialists? Are they warmongering genocide enthusiasts by nature or are they just regular people abused and groomed into war by their leaders? Are they space capitalists or commies? Are they honorable warriors or filthy backstabbers? Are they evil jihadist extremists hellbent on destroying America? Are we supposed to cheer when the heroes enthusiastically destroy them to save the planet or is this an oh-so-sad why-couldnt-we-get-along thing where the superheroes are very sad they have no choice but to kill them all? Are we meant to distrust the heroes when they attack Skrulls who are clearly not the aggressors or is it just an understandable funny misunderstanding? Are they really just gonna keep ping-ponging between perfect aggressors and perfect victims depending on what is convenient? That just feels irresponsible and too discomforting to me.

And I think that discomfort with their past depictions, with Secret Invasion, with the general fantasy orc problem they carry, is very clear in how modern creators tackle the Skrulls, and so they lean more heavily on making the Skrulls palatable, making them warriors torn between their honor and their loyalty to their dying empire, going hard on the angle of them as refugees displaced by war (which only makes the people at conflict with, the Kree and the superheroes, even less sympathetic in a way that never allows that thread to pan out), making conventionally pretty Skrulls like Hulkling to be "the good ones" in charge, drowning them in white savior bullshit that does little to address that fundamental tension and doesn't even last because eventually the Skrulls will be villains again, eventually it's their turn on the list of old pulp tropes superheroes recycle periodically. Even putting Secret Invasion aside, and you can't, the Skrulls are fundamentally a hostile endless race of alien monsters seeking to infiltrate America's borders by replacing it's people with themselves so they can take over the world. Valuable attempts have been made to flesh them out, but you are just not going to bleed that fascistic validation out of them.

The most I ever liked the Skrulls as a concept is probably in that storyline where Ben Grimm gets captured and sent to a Skrull planet where they are all obsessed with imitating Prohibition-era gangsters and forcing several other captive aliens to battle out, simultaneously allowing The Thing to deal with an upscaled gangster problem and a Star Trek problem and a Flash Gordon problem all in one. Skrulls-as-Space-Gangsters felt like it was onto something, a decent middleground power and threat-wise for them to occupy in the cosmic hierarchy with a niche not occupied by anyone else in the F4 rogues gallery and one that might de-emphasize the inherent xenophobia, open up different nuanced takes without needing to defang their value as an imperial power (and frankly Ben Grimm should be punching gangsters more often, he'd be the first to agree). That might be too limiting, so if there were a step beyond that, I'd suggest doing more on the weird exploration side, go big on the Skrulls as a species of copycats who can be anything and allow for weird alternate scenarios and themes and topics to be touched on, some of that weird anything-goes experimentation that made so much of F4 fun to read.

Skrull utopias, Skrull dystopias, Skrull societies that revolve around cooking competitions (maybe there are Skrulls morphing themselves into meals). Skrull planets doing shonen fighting tournaments, Skrull corporations dissatisfied with the Super-Skrull so they start splicing superpowers from a bunch of others hoping to strike big with the next great warrior, planets that are moving backwards because everytime their Skrulls get dissatisfied with modernity they take a step back on their timeline as literally as possible, Skrulls play-acting their versions of Marvel story arcs that center them as the heroes, a planet that is just the Skrulls doing their version of the DC universe, a city of rocky orange Skrulls who worship Ben as the greatest warrior in the universe, serious debates in Skrull circles over what is the worst form possible to take, roving bands of Skrull hippies trying to find the next cool thing to transform into and mold their identities around, Skrull beauty pageants, etc. I guess most of these are ideas better served outside of the Skrull framework and there's not much getting around the core make-up of these guys, but idk, if the Skrulls are gonna be a thing forever then they should be something that isn't just an Other existing in service of white savior/xenophobic fantasies. Give them their own Monkey Meat-esque anthology series about the things these weirdos endure and do when they aren't getting into spats with superheroes or space fascists or their warring governments.

Oh yeah and there's these guys too, I guess. To be honest I don't think I actually even know what's their deal. I know they are distinct enough from the skrulls due to their superpowers and big hammers and imagery, they come in different colors, they take orders from a big weird mostly-evil supercomputer, they have the Accusers as essentially a police force they've used to murder a bunch of planets with, they created the Inhumans by fucking around with cavemen, and their deal a lot of the time seems to be that they are powerful space fascists, and also that they are responsible for Captain Marvel, which doesn't do a lot to dispel the whole space fascist thing. I do think Ronan is okay though. I liked him allright in his FF debut because, given his introduction, given how he spends every line of dialogue in it flabbergasted at the F4 for daring to oppose his authority and resist his judgement and that of his empire and shocked that they won't simply comply and bow and accept death, it made him maybe thee closest you could get to a evenly-matched Fantastic Four vs The Cops story, which I thought was enough reason to justify him and the Kree as an ongoing element. Hickman also does good stuff with him and the Kree in his Fantastic Four and Avengers runs enough that I am broadly okay with them as a thing, along with the whole reocurring cosmic invader bucket they share with the Skrulls and the Shi'ar and whatever. The best one in that alien invader bucket I'd say is Annihilus, but he is his own degree of freak not really comparable to them.

If I was gonna point to anything between the two that I actually love, not just appreciate but actually really enjoy, it would be the guy in that image speaking the thing on my mind most of the time, Super-Skrull. That is ENTIRELY because he is a very entertaining character in MvC3, not just in terms of his playstyle but his general personality and demeanor, and that was my introduction to him, mostly divorced from the context the Skrulls usually occupy I was very on board with this funny green spaceman with such a cool and busted powerset and such an attitude problem. Charlie Adler does so much for his personality, this hilariously unpleasant egotistical jerk who's spitting and snarling everything he says, jeering and stomping the camera or stomping your opponent after they're down, nobody in the game is quite playing the Heel to the extent Super-Skrull is, and I like that some of his lines and ending emphasize how he's not even really that much of a villain. He is the hero his empire needs, even if he nurtures a rebellious streak, and asks you not to look too much into whenever he breaks character.

[gelu-the-babosa-multiversal]

man...

For my TFRB x AEMH crossover, I can't stop thinking about the possibilities of when the Skrulls invade earth...

The idea of Skrull Steve going to ¨visit¨ Cody and the rest of the Rescue team to learn more about Griffin Rock and the crazy tech they use to then realize that there's another alien race living hidden on earth... if we use the logic of the episode New Normal where the Velgrox believed that the planet was under Cybertronian control would it mean the same for the Skrulls and Kree??

Tho they may know that Cybertronians are a dying species at this point but then again, find out that Megatron still has an army and tons of big weaponry. Maybe they would think on leaving as it would be logical to them to think that the only outcome of this is Cybertronians destroying earth or the Bots revealing themselves to the public and making the other alien races leave the planet as there are not many other alien species that like Cybertronians...

But going back to Skrull Steve trying to manipulate Cody into showing him the most unhinged tech but Cody being Cody just knows that this isn't Captain America and be like

¨ok, or we become friends or I bring my 4 other giant alien friends to make you speak the beams¨

Which outcome is the best?? idk

Or, Skrulls kidnap Cody because he is the most dangerous of all and replace him with another Skrull while Cody ends up with Steve on the shapeshifter ship...

@bluekat12345 I feel that this is where Cody starts his hero career dhafkjshfsjdhfks

[binkywinky]

i still don't understand how carol caused the Kree to collapse like they did. how does destroying their AI cause all of that?

Hmm, I guess it's not explained as clearly in the movies, but I'll try to explain based on what I know of its role in the comics.

The Supreme Intelligence is an AI, yes, but it's more pervasive than something like Jarvis. It was the ruler of the Kree civilization, it was their government, and it was their religion.

It dictated everything from what "role" an individual had in Kree society to literal population control. For example, the Kree have DNA samples from several dead high profile Kree members and use that DNA to create children from them. It's how Mar-Vell has so many damn kids in the comics despite never meeting them - they were born in a lab using Mar-Vell's DNA sample.

Giving people specific roles allows them to control every aspect of Kree life. Everyone from who is a scientist to who is a warrior to who is a sanitation worker is specified by the Supreme Intelligence. And everyone is taught to follow the laws as created by the Supreme Intelligence in order to ensure the best possible outcome for the Kree Empire's survival.

The Kree also worshipped the Supreme Intelligence like a god. It's essentially the religion of the Kree, and they are indoctrinated from birth to believe they are the most superior race in the universe and are destined to rule everywhere and control everyone, by any means necessary. That's what led them to war time and time again, such as with the Skrulls.

So imagine then when Carol comes in and fucking destroys this thing. It's not just a power vacuum that's created - it's chaos. When you live in a society where every single aspect of your life is controlled, what the hell is gonna happen when the very thing controlling you just disappears?

On the surface, it looks like you have freedom, which is what Carol thought. But the Supreme Intelligence cultivated a fascist, imperialistic civilization with such an intense dogma that there's no way it's just gonna disappear because the Supreme Intelligence blew up one day. And while the Supreme Intelligence was insane, it kept order. Without it, you're left with extremists that have advanced armies, like Ronan and Dar-Benn, who will use their skills to carry out that doctrine by any means necessary. And of course they have different approaches and each see themself as The One to bring their people glory, so what happens then? You get all these people trying to fill that vacuum, and there's no longer any order. None of them have the ability to reach and control everyone like the Supreme Intelligence did, and that allows for factions to form and dissent and conflict to fester.

So then who is enforcing the laws? Who is controlling the population? Who is making sure the society maintains an equilibrium that keeps the empire in a position to sustain for years to come? No one. All these conflicting interests lead to a civil war, and that's how you run out of food. That's how you get poor air quality. That's how the sun starts dying (based on the assumption that the sun is artificial because a sun isn't gonna die in 30 years unless it was already dying). They used up all their resources fighting amongst themselves, and by the time they stopped, it was too late to reverse the more extensive damage.

So, yeah... that's how Carol's actions led to the collapse of the Kree Empire. Personally, I'd say indirectly because they did it to themselves, but her taking out the Supreme Intelligence absolutely was the catalyst.

[artbyblastweave]

What do you mean, Reed Richards brainwashed a bunch of captured Skrulls into thinking they were cows? How? Why? What happened to them? Why?

In the second issue of Fantastic Four, The skrulls, in their debut appearance, attempted to get the army to kill the FF by impersonating them and wrecking havok. When the runaround was over the captive skrulls agreed to turn into cows and be hypnotized into forgetting their previous identities in lieu of being executed. Now obviously this was, like, a silly throwaway resolution so they could get to the next adventure. Par for the course for the 60s. Unfortunately, under the pens of Grant Morrison and Mark Millar, said cows later got slaughtered and converted into hamburgers, and the people who ate those hamburgers contracted a mad-cow-analogous disease that gave them skrull-like shape-changing powers as well as the ability to detect, and the irrational impulse to murder, hidden skrulls. They formed a team called the Skrull Kill Krew and proceeded to travel around the country doing what their name implies that they do. When Secret Invasion happened, Reed Richards specifically was tortured pretty badly by the skrulls in retaliation for the whole affair.

[theknightlywolfe]

Thoughts on Agatha All Along since I gave in to watch it since people on Tumblr seem allergic to tagging their spoilers.

I know it was inevitable but I am annoyed we didn't get Lilia's trial before she was killed off.

Why did amnesia Billy/William go goth-lite? There was no indication from either boy's life. Did he just realize he was gay and randomly choose that from the twink aesthetic catalogue? Did he go with it once he heard about witches and decided to lean into the commercialized version of that aesthetic that they had the whole co-opted culture rant about? If so, that would be hilarious. A bunch of witches stuck with a little fanboy in a Spirit Halloween costume of them the whole time.

I think the potion didn't work for Sharon/Mrs. Hart because they forgot to add her hair to the potion, not because she had drunk more of the wine.

It's going to be interesting to see how the passing of time on the Road vs regular world goes. Because we are talking about a regular of Westview life and a teenage boy just up and disappearing for a while. Lillia can close her shop and it's whatever, Alice just lost her job, and Jen it would make sense she went into hiding to avoid the charges. But Sharon and Billy were expected home for dinner soon. Knowing Marvel, they're just going to ignore that.

Given that only two witches can make it off the road, are they going to loophole Billy (and/or Rio?) since he wasn't one of the witches who summoned the road (or because they're going to technicality him into something not a witch), are they going to end it by trapping/killing Agatha in the vein of destroying the last of Vision in Wandavision so everyone knows there's no s2, is the other witch who made it off the road with Agatha the first time going to come into play (watch, it's Rio), or is Rio not going to make it? I can't imagine, with the poorly done hints at assembling the Young Avengers, that they're going to kill Billy. Also, let's be real, it's still Disney and their execs get nasty at the suggestion of killing children in their media, especially on screen.

The whole jade egg thing was hilarious.

How has Agnes been surviving for three years? Especially with the implication that she randomly goes cuckoo. Is Ralph still paying the mortgage and utilities in the hope he eventually gets the house back? Is she normal enough long enough to hold down temporary jobs to cover her bills and maintain friendships with the neighbors? Especially since they show up to bring her food and make sure she's okay when she does go cuckoo and they all know she didn't live there before Wanda showed up. Does Agnes have access to Agatha's bank accounts and has just been unknowingly draining her savings?

I really need one of those Bohner family tshirts.

On a tangent:

If they are going to Young Avengers Billy, I am even more annoyed at the implication that Kate and maybe Yelena are going to be part of that. Yelena is 30, Kate is going into her mid 20s, and Billy, Kamala, America, and Cassie are mid teens. And how is Shang Chi supposed to fit in? Are they ignoring Secret Invasion or are we really going to see Super Skrulls? If so, what good will Kate and Yelena be except as coordinators and trainers? Billy is the most powerful living witch, America is a universe jumper and wizard, Kamala has super powers and bangles which can build intergalactic wormholes, and Cassie can shrink into a realm where physics work differently and from where she can summon a multi-powers army of friends. Kate and Yelena fight good. Which is kinda useless against Hulk power Skrulls.

If they're going to ignore Secret Invasion the way they seem inclined to ignore Eternals and they're dropping whatshisface because of the actor's legal troubles and poor audience response, then what is the new generation going to be fighting? And if it's basic foot soldier invasion at a level two non-powered mortals can deal with, then what do we need Shang Chi, Kamala, America, and Billy for? I mean, even with everything the Avengers dealt with, the heroes were pretty low level power wise until the last Thanos battle. Thor didn't have his full powers and they're still kind of weak, Wanda didn't know the full extent of her powers, Vision was so busy waiting for Tony to give him orders he never actually used any of his real power, and the rest were mortals. Like, yeah, Cap and Hulk could hit hard but what good is that against Shang Chi or Billy?

So, what? The new full Avengers will be Sam and Shang Chi, with Katie along for the ride to fill the archer role and maybe Yelena, maybe She-Hulk? And then the Young Avengers will be Kate and Cassie and a few planet destruction level super powereds? And if they are going to split Hawkeye 2.0 and Widow 2.0, why bother introducing them to each other and making them be friendly.

And, again, if they are going to give everyone amazing archery skills, why bother with Kate Bishop at all? Kamala has plucky optimism and knows Fury, America has the active connections to the OGs through Strange and Wong as does Cassie in some ways, and Billy brings the purple. Kate has no tactical or strategic training or knowledge, no powers, and while the rest have experience with super powered battles, Kate has ... fought gang members.

And really, how stupid to have all the powers be on a Young Avengers roster while the only person in the potential new full Avengers who would maybe even survive a battle between them is Shang Chi. Because with what they have done since Endgame, all the powers except for him are with teenagers. Shang Chi is the only super powered who can walk in a bar. Are we going to have to wait eight years for them all to be acceptably aged? Is a Disney owned studio really going to lean into child soldiers? Is Sam just gonna swan off and do his own thing and not build a new Avengers team? Is Shang Chi gonna be a Young Avenger? Or is he gonna be the new Strange, there when needed but not really an Avenger.

Is Billy going to be the new big bad? His mom destroyed the Darkhold and the throne room place so he doesn't exactly have the path to world ruling and her full power. And again, is Disney really going to be okay with sending teenagers to kill each other in bloody battle? If Agatha might be the new big bad after she gets her powers back in the show, then they only need to send Shang Chi and Kamala against her since their power weapons are tech not magic and she can't steal them. Or maybe Billy distracts her while Yelena sniper rifles her from behind.

If they just let their stories run, fine, but they hint at team ups that just make no sense.

[thebibliomancer]

Earth X #X

What the hell does #X mean??

Well, it means the end. The end of Earth… X. There’s two sequel series after this.

Mar-Vell gets the cover to the last issue. And thank goodness for lens flares because I’m fairly sure he’s very casual Friday.

Earth X. It’s hard to summarize the previous 13 (because #0) issues.

Long story short, the Earth is an egg. All superpowers and mutation are because the Celestials manipulated human evolution to make them guardians of the egg.

The mass mutation of Earth’s population has kicked off 200 years early because Black Bolt set off a terrigen bomb.

A psychic kid called the Skull rose as a Celestial failsafe to control the aggressive and unruly mutated population but Captain America killed him.

So the Celestials landed on Earth to wipe out all life before it threatens the egg but Black Bolt sacrifices himself to shout really loudly into space for Galactus.

Celestials vs Galactus.

Kind of a lose/lose situation for humanity.

The Earth X X issue is double sized. There’s a lot to cover but the subplots have mostly dried up.

Here’s one I’ll get out of the way early.

Reed Richards suddenly remembers that he promised Medusa that he’d help find her missing son.

God. I had completely forgotten about that. It was almost an inciting subplot that got the Inhumans bumping into Reed. But anyway, since Reed got Black Bolt killed, he feels obligated to duck out mid-plot resolution and reunite Medusa and her son.

Who was the new Black Knight all along.

Cool to wrap that up.

But back to the headlining fight.

According to New Watcher Aaron Stack, Galactus is tougher than one Celestial but might get overwhelmed by a Host of them.

And he keeps tinkering with his Galactus machines instead of punching giant space gods.

Luckily, Galactus gets some backup.

Namor toots as he pleases to summon sea monsters to attack the Celestials in the name of ancient-er Atlantis and for the dinosaurs.

He gets smacked aside.

Silver Surfers Norrin Radd and Shalla-Bal attack the Celestials to buy some time. And Shalla-Bal gets blowed up. Dangit, she’d only just been introduced last issue.

Loki brings an army from Hel, after convincing them that death is fake and that their entire identity was imposed on them.

(That’s why he shanked himself last time.)

They buy some time until the Celestials convince them death is real and they drop dead from it.

And during this, Galactus makes some big moves of his own.

I can practically HEAR this panel.

Like a static-y reverbish BWOOOOOOOOM!

Anyway, the Celestials eventually decide “fuck this actually” or however space gods would phrase it. They fuck off back into space.

Which just leaves the problem that now Galactus hunters and there’s a tasty planet right here.

Or whoever new Galactus this is.

Reed Richards turned Galactus into a star. The running narration implied that someone else has filled the vacated role.

Which has all to do with the tiers of mutation discussed in the previous issue.

Tier 1 - everyone has different powers. Ex: Earth right now.

Tier 2 - homogenization of powers into shapeshifting. Ex: the Skrulls or Reed Richards

And revealed this issue Tier 3 - completely malleable in body, mind, and will. Incredibly powerful but constrained by how observers identify them. Ex: the Asgardians.

This Galactus has become Galactus because he believes he’s Galactus and is believed to be Galactus.

But originally his name was

Franklin Richards.

Franklin who has connections to Galactus and has been said to be destined to be the last survivor of this universe the way Galactus was of the previous.

(I don’t know whether all that stuff predates Earth X or was inspired by it. Possible tally marks.)

And Franklin whose name Black Bolt shouted into space, which drew Galactus to Earth to his confusion.

Reed can’t acknowledge Galactus is Franklin, not without leaving the universe without it’s counter to Celestials over-population. But he does suggest that Galactus is known for relocating the populations of the planets he eats. And since Franklactus is influenced by how he is viewed, the universe has a kinder Galactus now.

There’s no planet to relocate Inhumanity to so Galactus just slurps the Celestial embryo right out of Earth and flies off into space with it.

So the day is saved but damn that’s a sad and lonely existence for Franklin.

He doesn’t even get some Radd company because the Silver Surfer is staying on Earth.

Back on the Moon, Aaron Stack gets tired of Uatu’s blah blah blah.

He finds where the old Watcher is hiding, since he has only appeared on a screen. He throws Uatu’s prior dismissal of good and evil and says that evil is “to do nothing in the face of need.”

Then he unplugs Uatu from the observation equipment so that on top of being blind, he also can’t hear anything from Earth. A Watcher with nothing to observe.

“He doesn’t have the right to watch. He took my face.”

Aaron really held that grudge.

So now we get into the epilogues and sequel hooks for Universe X.

Now that he knows that the terrigen mist caused the mass mutation of humanity, Reed has some ideas on how to fix it.

But he’s getting some pushback. There are people who want to keep their cool new superpowers. And T’Challa thinks the mass mutation gave the animal spirits of Wakanda anthro bodies and he won’t endorse a plan that could reverse that.

Peter and May have repaired their relationship. May has been helping Peter get back in shape.

Cop Luke Cage is still after Peter to join the police but Peter laughs off the idea of becoming a cop.

The circus guys that became the new X-Men are going to stick around as X-Men.

I cannot fathom why these guys were given so much focus for the minimal impact they had on the plot. I could not tell you what their personalities or even powers are.

I also don’t understand why Circus Daredevil got so much attention.

Earth X still has its mysteries.

After being given some massive foreshadowing that he’d play a role, Mar-Vell finally shows up when the plot is done!

He assures Reed he’ll be huge in the sequel.

“There’s a lot that’s about to happen, Reed. I’m coming back. I’m coming back to save everyone. And they’re not going to like it.”

????

Reed asks him to clarify but Mar-Vell refuses.

He does find the time to imply he’s going to be born from Perfect Humans Adam Warlock and Her though.

Why? God knows.

Mar-Vell also suggests that the dream he kept giving Bruce was a big brain move to indirectly get Loki aware that the Asgardians are fiction so he’d shank himself, go to Hel, and recruit the inhabitants to help fight the Celestials.

That’s… either very big brain or a complete asspull.

Captain America is still sad he had to murder a child.

Aaron Stack decides he’s going to be the Watchman instead of the Watcher. Sounds like more of an active role and I dunno maybe he likes Alan Moore.

Luna finishes her transformation into a beautiful butterfly lady so she’s ready for her arranged marriage to Black Knight/the Prince. But he has no interest in her.

Oof, that’s rough.

And Reed finishes converting his old vibranium beacon towers into giant devices to siphon and burn the terrigen out of the atmosphere so things can eventually be normal.

He calls them Human Torches because even Reed Richards has his sentimental side.

So that’s Earth X.

I don’t love everything it does but it makes a decent stab at tying everything in Marvel up in a big Celestial-shaped bow. I can appreciate how fleshed out the setting is, how there’s still stuff going on that we don’t know, and how it’s tightly plotted so that a lot of what seems to be random weirdness plays into the resolution.

I like how many prominent heroes go from depressed and beaten down by the past to getting their groove back. Reed Richards, Tony Stark, Peter Parker all start in a bad place and find their heroism again.

The creative team must have been very confident it would succeed since there are SO MANY sequel hooks in the ending.

And it can’t be overstated how much of an impact Earth X had on the rest of Marvel. I tried to call out the times when something from Earth X inspired another Marvel book. And I probably missed a lot because the ideas have become common enough that I didn’t realize they originated here.

But the book never explains what the X in Earth X means so 0 out of 5 stars, bad comic.

[lokigodofaces]

I think it's very interesting that in Agents of SHIELD Sif did not know that a rogue Kree faction had ever come to Earth in season one. They didn't just come to Earth, they kidnapped and experimented on humans to make living weapons. Like, that is something that you would think Asgard, the supposed protectors of Midgard, would care about. But we know that it was the Inhumans themselves that expelled the Kree and that Asgard was a no show.

Now, according to the MCU Wiki, over five thousand years ago the Kree came to Earth to run their little science experiment. The Mayan Alveus (who would later be known as Hive) was one of the first experiments (or possibly the first). He was Mayan, which means that if my five minute Google search was correct, Marvel was off on their dates because the Mayan civilization did not begin five thousand years ago, it's newer than that, but whatever. I then looked to see when the war between Asgard and Svartalfheim was. MCU Wiki claims it was around 2988 BCE. Meaning that these two events happened around the same time.

So I have to ask why Bor didn't do a single thing about the Kree? The reason the Kree came to Earth was to make an army of super soldier to fight their wars. The civilization we see in Captain Marvel and later seasons of AoS has been having massive wars for thousands of years. The Kree are one of the more powerful civilizations in the universe. Why did Bor at the very least not see them as a threat? Even if he didn't care about protecting humans (because let's be honest, he didn't), the Kree were a threat to Asgard if they could control one Realm. Perhaps he was too busy dealing with the dark elves and by the time that was finished, the Inhumans had managed to fend off the Kree. But I do find it strange. Like, if the Inhumans had their war literally the same time as Asgard did, I still would've thought that Bor should send someone over, double check that there isn't any Kree nearby (because guess what? There were sleeper agents in nearby space!) because even if he doesn't give a crap about humanity at least he should give a crap about the empire that is constantly at war with everyone being on one of the Nine Realms!

Or they straight up cared so little about Earth and its (in their eyes) extremely primitive people that they never bothered to check if any other peoples happened to hop on over. To Bor, it could have been a useless planet. Like, almost like how we would describe piece of land that has no humans living there, only animals (except that's not fair because we as humans tend to try to be conservationists oftentimes. I guess Bor wasn't).

Whatever is the case, whether it be these options or something I haven't thought of because I'm up too late writing this, Bor clearly did not care about Earth and it's "primitive creatures."

And yet people say that Loki was a bad king despite Loki actually ruling well. In Ragnarok, Thor claims that Loki has left the Realms in chaos. 1) Weren't they already in chaos during Thor: The Dark World? Like so much so that Malekith could easily count of Kurse being captured as a rebel? 2) Loki had a fair point when he said that Asgard left Earth to chaos in Avengers. Dude was definitely Mind Stone High but I mean Heimdall can see everything yet Odin was cool with Red Skull taking the Tesseract away from where Odin entrusted it to kill people and take over Earth. Also he totally let the Kree and the Skrull temporarily drag Earth into their war. Like, I guess you can give Bor the benefit of the doubt because he might not have had a guy like Heimdall, and it's not like the Kree invaded Earth, just snatched a few people every once in a while. But Odin's got Heimdall, he knew about one of his protected realms almost being dragged into a war. 3) It seems Loki was withdrawing some of Asgard's influence so as to a) PROTECT THE TESSERACT b) give freedom to the realms. 4) When it was a serious threat, HE DID SOMETHING ABOUT IT. He sends Sif to Earth TWICE in AoS to handle very serious threats. The first one being Lorelei, who had escaped the Asgardian dungeons during The Dark World and managed to find a secret passage to Earth. He sends Sif, the Asgardian most likely to defeat Lorelei to recapture her. And then he manages to do something Bor and Odin never did upon finding out about one (1) Kree on Earth: act on it. He once again sent Sif to deal with this single Kree. Didn't work out so well for her at first, but with the help of SHIELD it was handled (and Sif totally tried to kill a human who had helped her without putting any logical thought into it, I'm sure Loki was not happy about that) and the Kree left the planet. But nOoOoO, Loki left the realms in utter chaos.

Also random headcanon, I think it is shortly after this incident that Heimdall found out about Odin being Loki. This is the last time we see Sif in AoS, and there are some future events that definitely would call Loki's attention. Not that he would send her for whatever little thing, he darn well knows that SHIELD can handle things. But I can see him not being happy about the Darkhold being found. So I imagine that somewhere in between the Kree incident and the Darkhold being found is when Heimdall drops off the radar, thus making it harder for Loki to pay attention to what weird crap is happening in the realms that is worth Asgardian intervention.

I'm just saying, people keep saying Loki wasn't a good ruler when he's the only one that actually seems to care about protecting the protected realms.

[alienpossession]

Only Secret Invasion can literally drag me back to Tumblr lol and make a post in the middle of such hectic week

Hhhhhhhhh.....first of all, for a series about shapeshifting alien, I feel like they can have more scene of the shapeshifting, especially for Pagon, I guess I really have a crush on the character lol

It's canon now that Skrulls Pagon is mimicking Russian commander or some sort by this scene and boy, the moment the series ended, my mind directly focused on that sole fact and went to the absolute wilderness with all this schematic on how the Skrulls managed to infiltrate Russian Army and FSB and then basically utilized the commander's powerful position to not only get more Skrulls posed as soldier, but also making all those kind of military authorization that led the Skrulls can set up a base at New Skrullos

I literally can write a literal series solely on two storyline alone, the Skrulls infiltration of the Russian military and intelligence system and the American Against Russia plot point -.-

And don't let me start on Brogan (the beanie guy)......he literally can be utilized in so many scenes to recruit more shells for the Skrull from Americans Against Russia membership base -.-

All in all, thanks for triggering my fantasy LMAO, I might even write a story right about now just because of the finale and the overall series potential that is not further explored

Oh.....one more note

What the heck is this character do other than just simply existing? He's Skrull High Council member and I literally imagined him to be some kind of Triad kingpin, Korean crime lord or some sort and he's controlling drug empire from East Asia while having his right hand man and closest bodyguard also replaced by Skrulls

Lol I really need to control myself with this obsession

[abigailnussbaum]

So Secret Invasion is a tedious slog, and like most MCU spy thrillers post-Winter Soldier its politics don't really bear thinking about. But one thing I do appreciate about it is that three episodes in, the one thing that unites all its characters and factions is their conviction that Nick Fury is the Worst Spy Ever and their willingness to bring the receipts. So far, we have learned that:

Nick Fury was a middling SHIELD agent with a career that was going nowhere when, after the events of Captain Marvel, he recruited the Skrulls to act as his secret spy organization, which was actually run by Talos.

To reiterate, the reason everyone thinks Nick Fury is a world class spymaster who knows everything before everyone is that he had an off-book army of shapeshifting aliens doing the actual spy work and feeding him information.

The Skrulls agreed to do this (dangerous, wearying, neverending) work because Fury promised to find them a new home off Earth. And then he just... did not do that. I don't know if he lied or failed or decided, at some point, that the Skrulls were too useful to him to let go, but the upshot is that he has strung them along for thirty years. And it seems to have come as a surprise to him that failing to live up to your promises to a group of desperate refugees - including orphaned children! - might have negative consequences down the line.

While he was working for Fury, Talos secretly sent for all the remaining Skrull refugees and resettled them on Earth, a fact that Fury - who was climbing the ranks at SHIELD at the time and thus presumably had other intelligence assets at his disposal - was blissfully ignorant of until episode 2 of this very series.

(While all this was happening, of course, SHIELD was playing host to Hydra, a fact of which Fury also remained ignorant until it blew up in his face.)

Skrulls have infiltrated the upper echelons of many Earth governments and organizations - at last count, the British PM, the head of NATO, and a major US media talking head are all Skrull imposters. I suppose it's possible that Fury signed off on this, but it seems like a bit much. More likely, this is something Talos and the rest of the Skrull leadership put into motion without Fury's awareness or approval.

Over the years, as Fury failed to live up to his promises to the Skrull, a group of them became disaffected and splintered off, aiming to take over the planet from humans. Again, not only was Fury unaware of this until the beginning of this series, it's not something that he anticipated as a likely outcome of his own behavior, and he completely failed to identify some of his proteges as potential turncoats.

Oh, and Fury is married to a Skrull who is apparently working with the "kill all humans" faction. But it's not his fault that he wasn't aware of this, because after the blip he just fucked off to space, left Talos to impersonate him, and apparently did not for one moment consider that there was a volatile situation on Earth that required his attention.

And look, none of this is going to stick. As I've mentioned in the past, one of the MCU's core moves is to give full, articulate voice to the criticisms we naturally have of their characters, but always in a way that undermines that criticism. It's being made by a villain (Black Panther, The Falcon and the Winter Soldier), it's misguided (Yelena Belova hates Hawkeye not because he's a mass murderer, but because she mistakenly blames him for her sister's death), or it's just raised and then ignored (Captain America: The Winter Soldier, the early seasons of Agents of SHIELD). It is very clear that the thrust of Secret Invasion is going to be to reveal how Nick Fury got his groove back and proved to all the naysayers that he's the baddest motherfucker in the MCU. But for the time being, I am enjoying the litany of "this is why you suck" speeches that Fury is being subjected to. It's one of the few things that makes this show worth watching.

[annachum]

Okay my review of The Marvels ( spoiler warnings ahead!! )

. THE MOVIE IS SO AWESOME I SCREAMED I SCRUMPT IT ALSO RADIATES FEMININE POWER MESSAGES AAAAAAAAAHHH

. Kamala finally getting to fight alongside Carol. Bless

. YESSSSS MONICA CAROL AND KAMALA TRIPLE FIGHT!!!!

. Dar Benn IS......unhinged. Yeesh. She kinda reminds me of Maleficent and Queen Grimmhilde in some ways

. So Dar Benn just foes around annihilating people AND resources across the galaxy all for Hala?!?!? Like, I get your devotion to your home planet, lady, but PLS

. Okay turns out Ael Dann ( Dar Benn's older twin brother and son of Ronan and Una Rogg ) died in the Kree Civil War ( which is basically a bloody toss up between the extended Kree Imperial Household and their factions over who gets to be Supreme Ruler of the Kree after Ronan died. Talk about Gamr of Thrones like situation here.

. Prince Yan slaying and being handsome and fly as always ~ 🤩🤩🤩🤩🥺🥺

. AAAAAAAHHH MONICA WAKES UP IN AN X MEN TIMELINE?!?!?! AAAAAAHHH

. Let's just say Dar Benn's outcome is literally a result of her being overcome with vengeance and greed

. Ofc the Skrulls won't trust the Kree especially with the Kree Skrull War going on for DECADES

. Well at least now the planets affected by the Kree are recovering and rebuilding right now

. Srsly Aladna is basically like when Oz, Wonderland and Disney's Aladdin verse somehow mash it up together and produce that

. The Aladanaans do have sick sirenic voices and musical related powers tho

. The Aladnaan fashion has some nods to the fashions in Silly Symphonies, Jupiter Ascending and Dune

. The Multiverses are being mentioned

. FLERKEN ARMY TO THE RESCUE!!! ( with Memory from Cats played in the background )

. Kamala's family moments are just - bless 🤩🤩🤩🥺🥺🥺🥺

. So the bangles ARE indeed from the Hindu Myth Planes. OH BOY I BET the Hindu Myth Planes be having had beef with the Kree over misuse of the bangles, really

. ALL IN ALL ITS SUCH AN AWESOME MOVIE!!!

🤩🤩🤩🤩

[pympartic]

:[ OOC ;; Mobile Post //; So I don't know how many people know of this, but we actually Do Have Christopher Yost (aka one of the big writers on EMHs) notes on what he would have liked season threes episode line ups to be. And I've been thinking about them a lot because of possible thread ideas and thinking on what B Plots might have ran though these episodes. I'll link and keep Yapping below. ]

:[ Link ! ]

So starting with the season premiere actually this one itches my brain.

S3E01 STRANGE TALES As Surtur releases an army of demons on Earth, the Avengers find themselves facing their worst fears... trapped within the realm of NIGHTMARE! Up against an enemy they can’t fight, the team turns to the only person who can help: Dr. Strange!

Okay first of all I LOVE NIGHTMARE EPS SO MUCH, but second of all I've talked to people in the past about how EMH isnt afraid to make changes to the source 616, the key difference between how it does so vs the MCU being that EMH will make a change and Really Commit to it.

Why does that matter?

I think this episode could have been used as a way to do plot points like for example Hawkeye getting booted from the team because the government said so! EMHs Avengers have been set up to be so fundamentally opposed to letting the government tell them what to do it's unlikely they'd do that, this is also due to the cartoons heavy focus on the avengers being a Functional Family Unit, the team really only breaks apart Once due to Skrulls with even Panthers leaving not even being him quitting moreso just having other priorities which they understand. Not to mention as Izzy brought up, Clint in EMH is trust based trauma down to his bones.

From what we've been told of the plans they had the show wasn't planning on doing Civil War either (Bold move tbh) so you could maybe have the fear of it happening be a thing for Tony who was set up to really worry and care about his people and their trust after the Skrulls made him paranoid. (Understandably)

Hell you could even do the Yellowjacket Spiral since they basically wrote in a clause of Hank Literally being so incapable of hurting Jan even Ultrons brain got affected! Maybe reference that killer robot he makes in the comics in a fit of mania only this time it doesn't stop like it should, or straight up make it Ultron! (EMH focused a lot on Hanks need for control and his feelings of loosing it or trying to keep it. The irony being that he couldn't keep the tech based on his mind under control and now he's trying to control Himself ((buddy you should idk talk to your friends and loved ones in Just Saying that do be how we do things around here)) )

Also because EMH has always drawn more from the comics then the MCU WE CAN ACTUALLY HAVE NICE DR STRANGE! Maybe he gets the avengers tea to calm their nerves, sits and talks with them as they recover from the terrors Nightmare put them through. GIMMIE NICE STRANGE-!

S3E03 RECURRING KNIGHTMARE Iron Man and Doctor Doom are pulled through time to ancient CAMELOT, finding themselves uneasy allies against Modred the Mystic. And back in the present, the Wasp’s only hope to get Iron Man back is the BLACK KNIGHT.

I CANT BE THE ONLY ONE WHOD THINK THIS BE FUN AS HELL RIGHT? Doom and Tony having to team up, the two drama bots having to fight Magic Wizards and knights?! That'd be SO FUN!!

S3E07 THOR CROAKS As Ragnarok approaches, Loki takes Thor off the battlefield. His only hope? Ant-Man and the Wasp… assuming a transformed Thor doesn’t eat them. Ribbit.

First off HEHEHEHEHE FROG THOR! Second off this actually got me really excited because a lot of season three and four concept art used the Hank Pym giant man. Yellowjacket is also not mentioned in any of the episode summeries. So there's a non zero chance that either this would be a Scott and Jan episode (Yay!) or Hanks ant man again and we get the fun Hank and Scott dynamics (BIG YAY) Either way this episode would have been fun for Bug Antics Alone!

I WANNA GUSH SO MUCH THIS SEASON LOOKS LIKE IT COULDA BEEN SO COOL I SCREM ALSO TONY GETTING TO CURE SIMON? WHO APPARENTLY BECOMES A FULL TIME AVENGER AS WONDERMAN LETS FUCKING GO BIG TONY W?? AA

[maxwell-grant]

People keep asking you about the Bat-villains, and I figured I might as well do something a bit different. So, I've oft heard it said that the best Rogue's Galleries in Big Two Cape Comics are (in no particular order) Batman, Spider-Man, The Flash, the FF, and Superman. Would you agree with that assessment? Which of the other four would you be interested in discussing?

Can't find much fault in that statement and I'm honestly down for discussing any of them as well as others (although I'm really not as read on Flash), last thing I'm in shortage of is thoughts regarding villains and rogues galleries. I'd say the one that's been most on my head the past weeks has been the Fantastic Four's rogues, because I recently finished a big readthrough of their major Waid/Millar/Hickman runs and am currently going through Secret Wars, so how these guys click and how they've been used over the years and how weirdly they are structured is something I've been thinking about a bit.

I say weird because the F4 rogues don't exactly lend themselves to the kind of multiple team-ups you see with Spidey and Batman, these guys all developed over the years into weird rulers of their own sub-divisions of the world. Even as far back as the Kirby/Lee era they've always had a pecking order in place, but they've never been too numerous or conductive to forming their own Sinister Sixes or Rogues or Revenge Squads. It's like even by rogues gallery standards, these guys are all freaks too powerful to be underestimated but too anti-social to form team-ups and so they are all kind of operating on different levels. They're not porous and easy-to-transplant like Spidey's villains, and they are not as defined by the biggest and most popular among them as you'd expect, they don't have that kind of monsters vs costumed shmucks dynamic you see more pointedly in Flash, rather they exist more like pieces on a map than a balance, and as a result they have very little overlap compared to the others.

Like, The Wizard may have started, for all intents and purposes, as a small-scale Doctor Doom to do stories you couldn't bring Doom without devaluing him, but The Frightful Four actually had a clutch of fairly impressive victories in the Lee/Kirby run, and The Wizard stuck around carving his own niche in the years since. Of course Doom rules the roost uncontested, but he is a character who's grown big enough to the point he's more of a supporting character/protagonist than the others, and where as Spidey and Batman have a ton of villains that keep losing space to The Joker or the Goblin or the Symbiotes and so on, The Thinker does not exist in the same length as the Puppet Master or the Skrulls, who don't occupy the same kind of alien menace role as the Inhumans or the Kree, neither of which overlaps with Annihilus and the Negative Zone, who is totally different from the other strange master of hidden armies Mole Man, and so on.

It never feels like these guys have to fight for space the way these other rogues do, they have their roles being their own unique kind of roadblocks to the adventure (in fact, when there was a literal war for space in Hickman's Four Cities arc, they called a meeting of the rogues gallery to try and solve the problem of multiversal Reeds pushing civilizations into duking it out, so they could get back to what really mattered: trying to destroy their Reed Richards). Most might not be very flexible characters, but they all have a place in the toolkit. And for the most part they don't really define the stories of the Fantastic Four as much as these others do and I think that works very nicely for them, they are very dependable guys to have around.